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Anyone used these "juicers" and what were your results?

Posted Saturday, September 8, 2012, at 8:25 AM

I have 40 pounds that just have to go away. Actually, if I used the weight charts I pull up on the net, I should add another 20 pounds to that goal but that would bring me back to my wrestling weight in high school and probably a little unreasonable.

I've tried to lose weight in many ways. Even so far as to have a four way by-pass but that only helped me temporarily lose 20 pounds. Well, that may not have been the primary reason for the operation but....

I certainly work around our property with gardens projects, maintenance, honey-dos, cutting firewood, etc. but nothing seems to make a dent. I eat about half of what I used to eat and all I do is maintain my manly belt-line. Not healthy, manly, or that is how I am referring to it. :-)

My current bout with the crud has made food even less important to me so before I build up a keen interest again, I thought I would try adding a juicer to my regimen. Not to replace ALL other food, but to add a substantial amount of raw vegetables and fiber.

I am a firm believer that in our effort to make things "easy", our culture has added a lot more sugar and preservatives to even our healthy foods, so prepackaged convenience does not interest me.

A juicer that includes the pulp just sounds like a strong possibility so I ask if any of you have tried it, liked it, disliked it, or .....?


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I would recommend a Vita-Mix. Granted they are a little pricey but do an excellent job at a lot more than just juicing. We bought one in 1980 and it still is as good as ever. The older metal containes types(new ones are some tpe of plastic) can still be found on e-bay.

-- Posted by patszoo on Sat, Sep 8, 2012, at 9:59 AM

I tried one of those probably 15 years ago but the motor sounded gravelly so I sent it back before the trial period. Maybe it was just more powerful than I expected to hear.

How often do you use it patszoo? Use it for making juice, soup, bread or .....?

-- Posted by stevemills on Sat, Sep 8, 2012, at 5:07 PM

I used it a lot when the kids were at home. I would grind the wheat berries and make flour, and bread. We also made soups, frozen treats and juice. I think the newer ones are quieter. Every so often they have demos at Sams and Costco. The Franklin/Brentwood Costco is having demos Sept 10-23. It might be worth checking out.

-- Posted by patszoo on Sat, Sep 8, 2012, at 7:46 PM

We purchased a Vitamix in the 80's as well and never looked back. They're worth the noise and the initial expense! We make smoothies a lot in it. We prefer cold to hot, saves enzymes too. Also use a Breville juicer, they're fantastic.

Have you seen the movie, Fat Sick and Nearly Dead? It's rather inspirational.

Lately we've had good results with the Paleo diet. Have you tried leaving off all dairy and grains? It makes a tremendous difference with our sinus problems. As a matter of fact, when we indulge in grains, our allergies hasten back with a vengeance.

-- Posted by dmcg on Sat, Sep 8, 2012, at 8:50 PM

I'll try to check out a Sam's or Costco this week.

dmcg, you caught my attention with sinus issues. My allergist retired a few years ago but gave me one last check up and said I no longer reacted to anything he could treat, so it was non-specific rhinitis.

Food was always a suspect, but trying to think about no grains....wow. I will have to look at what that entails. Not that improved health will not be worth it, but....

I don't mind the noise, but I was afraid it was something wrong and would show up after the warranty.

-- Posted by stevemills on Sun, Sep 9, 2012, at 8:35 AM

I checked out "Fat Sick and Nearly Dead" and you are right it is motivating.

Not only that, but it was notably "advertisement" free. Only one time do I remember seeing a brand name of the juicer.

The change that came over the truck driver was awesome. Not only weight loss, but you could see the life returning to his face and mannerisms. He also seemed to take up "promoting" the lifestyle change on his own.

-- Posted by stevemills on Sun, Sep 9, 2012, at 11:06 AM

Do you have an email address you'd be willing to post, I'll send you a little more information.

-- Posted by dmcg on Sun, Sep 9, 2012, at 3:13 PM

Steve@bedfordtradingpost.com send away, thanks.

-- Posted by stevemills on Sun, Sep 9, 2012, at 8:49 PM

I've been doing something similar to paleo called LCHF (both are low carb). Here's is a site with some info and videos: http://www.dietdoctor.com/lchf I eat lots of great food, eat until I'm full and I'm still losing weight. But no sugars, bread, pasta, rice, grains, etc.

Also a fun movie to check out is Fat Head. If you have Netflix, it is on there and I think you can find it on youtube and Hulu as well. dmcg, I think you'll like Fat Head as well.

-- Posted by benjithegreat98 on Mon, Sep 10, 2012, at 10:00 AM

The diet certainly looks workable. Has some similarities to a diet I tried years ago that worked but was just too extreme to maintain. This one looks much better, except pasta & mashed potatoes. (darn)

Have you ever tried to "oopsie" bread?

-- Posted by stevemills on Mon, Sep 10, 2012, at 5:08 PM

By the way folks, I am not giving up the health benefits from juicing but I never thought that would be an "all or nothing" approach.

-- Posted by stevemills on Mon, Sep 10, 2012, at 5:09 PM

I made it a point to try a "juice" of the proprietor's choice this evening. Wow! It was a lot more than I expected and took me over an hour to consume.

-- Posted by stevemills on Mon, Sep 10, 2012, at 7:51 PM

benjithegreat98,

I'm happy for you that it is working, however, for me, the dairy is a problem. Different things work differently for each of us, don't they? Thanks for the suggestion because I've passed it on to several friends. Have a great day.

-- Posted by dmcg on Tue, Sep 11, 2012, at 8:48 AM

Potatoes and cokes were the hardest for me. But eventually you don't miss them. The first week or so is the hardest, however, while your body is craving sugars.

I tried oopsie bread once. It tastes a lot like eggs. There are recipes on line to add spices and other things to it to improve it. Wasn't really the greatest.

-- Posted by benjithegreat98 on Tue, Sep 11, 2012, at 8:56 AM

dmcg,

Yes, I'm a big proponent of 'whatever works for you'. I haven't reacted poorly to dairy and I consume a lot of butter, cheese and heavy whipping cream. No milk, though. We're all different.

-- Posted by benjithegreat98 on Tue, Sep 11, 2012, at 9:02 AM

Dairy seems to be a 50/50 proposition. Some think it is good while others say only unprocessed, which is not that easy to get. For now, I am just staying away.

I discussed off-line that after only eating eggs, sausage for breakfast, mostly vegetables for lunch (cheated with one broiled chicken thigh) and all veggies last night with the "juice" I mentioned above, I had the first full night sleep that I have had in a long time.

Looking forward to re-test that tonight.

-- Posted by stevemills on Tue, Sep 11, 2012, at 1:26 PM

After much research I too am buying a Vitamix after my blender crashed and burned.... Good to know about Costco. Last time I was there they were out.

Protein and veggies works for me when feeling over my " prime ".... substituting mashed or steamed cauliflower for the much loved potatoes and pasta. It does not take long to drop the weight once it starts.

Good Luck to you Steve.......

-- Posted by Palindrome on Tue, Sep 11, 2012, at 4:23 PM

Tere are opposing sides of the discussion about using the pulp derived from processing the foods. Does Vita Mix separate this or incorporate this pulp, or can it do both at you choosing?

Which is better in your opinion?

-- Posted by stevemills on Tue, Sep 11, 2012, at 10:46 PM

I went to a live demo of the Vita Mix today. Much quieter and very impressive. I also noticed that the place where I got my "smoothie" was all Vita Mix.

-- Posted by stevemills on Wed, Sep 12, 2012, at 6:24 PM

There's a support page on Face Book for juicing.It's (juicing for dummies )

-- Posted by jdem on Wed, Sep 12, 2012, at 9:28 PM

Hey, whatcha sayin'? :-)

I'm not admitting anything, but I will check it out. Thanks.

-- Posted by stevemills on Thu, Sep 13, 2012, at 9:12 AM

How's it going for you, Steve? Juicing is amazingly powerful--pulp or no pulp--isn't it?

-- Posted by dmcg on Tue, Sep 18, 2012, at 1:11 AM

I am actually starting to see positive change in four ways.

1. Losing weight - about 7 pounds so far

2, Pants starting to feel looser

3. Joints are not as painful

4. Overall better feeling

I have not been fanatical about it, but trying to substitute at least one meal with juice, eating only protein for breakfast (eggs/meat and smaller portions) and evening meal of mostly vegetables with a little fish or chicken.

Plan to go more juice (with pulp if possible) when I find a good machine I can afford. Deb found some less expensive ones, but my research has pointed me toward VitaMix and if I am going to make the jump, I want to make a wise decision.

Resale of those machines also seems to be high, so.....I keep looking.

-- Posted by stevemills on Tue, Sep 18, 2012, at 6:08 AM

You'll never regret a Vitamix or a Breville juicer.

-- Posted by dmcg on Tue, Sep 18, 2012, at 8:28 PM

An interesting development yesterday. I was trying to maintain my emphasis on vegetarian and stopped by a restaurant that specializes in such food.

Since I do not know much about their menu, I just had the waitress choose something with my guidelines to stay away from bread and pasta. She came back with a salad with a meat substitute called seitan.

Tasted good but I found out it was made from wheat gluten. I was trying to stay away from that as well but not for weight loss reasons. There is a lot of talk about gluten causing a lot of allergic reactions.

Sure enough, the pains and aches that were going away returned. So, gluten free is something I am certainly going to add to my list.

-- Posted by stevemills on Wed, Sep 19, 2012, at 6:00 AM

I broke down and got a Vitamix today. I've got 30 days to give it a workout and see if I can live with my recipes. LOL

Actually, I better stick to the ones in the cookbook. I played around with my first fruit smoothy, consisting of a banana, orange, half an apple and about 4 big strawberries, a little water and a few ice cubes.

Not bad, although I might need to add some almonds or honey for sweetness and let it run a little longer. Tomorrow morning I am going to mix strawberries, banana, apple, lemon and a peach. Mmmmmm, can't wait.

-- Posted by stevemills on Wed, Sep 19, 2012, at 8:01 PM

I'm fired up! Just got some more things to mix up in my concoctions, like spinach, dates, grapes, celery and natural honey.

I was going to get soy milk but could not find anything that did not have additives in it. Same thing with almond milk, so I'll have to check the specialty shops.

I've always been convinced that the "additives" and "fillers" in our foods have been silently causing issues. That is why I try to garden 100% organic.

By the way, there are several definitions of organic and I try to lean toward the stricter side, but some times it just hurts to see your plants you cared so much for, bite the dust, So, .... I have been known to use some natural insecticides, very sparingly.

Back to my smoothy adventure, my shorts are starting to embarrass me. They are sliding down and actually falling off. I used to get away without using a belt, but that will change as of this morning.

Yahoo!

-- Posted by stevemills on Thu, Sep 20, 2012, at 8:07 AM

Three days later and I am going stronger than before. Some folks who do a juice diet only seem to have "withdrawal" symptoms.

I have not experienced that, so I don't know if that is because I stared out slow (one smoothie, replacing one meal or because I am not truly juicing. (I have fiber in all my drinks)

Yesterday I found myself not interested in breakfast or lunch, so I guess I am down to one whole meal per day and only one filling of the plate.(not overloaded either)

This morning was just 2 oranges, a lemon, goat yogurt, and a handful of almonds, grapes and cashews with a new addition two tablespoons of flax seed. A little water and two handfuls of ice to cool it down.

I forgot the ice for lunch yesterday and was well on my way to making hot soup, which was OK since it was a lot of veggies.

-- Posted by stevemills on Sun, Sep 23, 2012, at 7:52 AM

I tried a McDonald's smoothie this afternoon since I had finished the one I made up this morning. It was good and it said it was all natural but it was made too quickly and had a "milky" smoothness to it so I would suspect powdered flavorings or fillers.

If anyone knows for sure, let us know, but I think I will stay away from it next time. I suddenly had congestion that has been going away, so I suspect something else in there.

My one meal yesterday consisted of an omelet and hash browns, no bread. I was expecting to wolf it down and "leave no prisoners" but instead I left almost half the omelet. Hmmmm.

Tonight I mixed 6 tomatoes, a small pepper, broccoli, mushrooms and celery. It was filling, but I think I am going to start adding some spices to my veggie smoothie. It was not as appetizing as I would have liked.

The fruit smoothies don't seem to need much to make them sweet and delicious. I've been adding a little honey when I have a particular yearning. Maybe two tablespoons.

Tomorrow, in addition to my regular bananas, apples, oranges and grapes I think I may add a kiwi or a pomegranate. Change of pace.

I add a good deal of ice to the fruit smoothies to keep is cold for a couple of hours. It seems to last about 4 hours which is just about how long I "nurse" it.

I have to remember to drink more water. The smoothies keep me from thinking about it, but more water will be good.

Did I mention that I am out of holes in my belt to tighten it? I don't need a new hole yet but this is really encouraging, since it was going the other way. :-)

Probably start exercising this weekend with wood cutting. We'll see what my energy level is like.

-- Posted by stevemills on Wed, Sep 26, 2012, at 7:10 PM

Thanks for the words of support knitwit6819. By making this public it motivates me to succeed and comments like yours give me extra oomph.

-- Posted by stevemills on Wed, Sep 26, 2012, at 7:11 PM

Palindrome, did you get a VitaMix yet? We'll share notes at the next garden club meeting. This new diet gives me more incentive to keep the garden going!

By the way, I know potatoes are not an approved food in any of these diets, but...I not cutting everything out just yet. I also noticed fruit was a no-no on the diet doctor website. There is just so much positive in fresh fruit that I am going to see how things go with those included.

I have not seen Fat Head yet, but I reread all your comments to pick up on things I missed, so I will get there soon. Tonight I try the Facebook "juicing for dummies"

-- Posted by stevemills on Wed, Sep 26, 2012, at 7:23 PM

I could not find juicing for dummies on Facebook. Found something similar, but if I missed it, I will keep looking.

I just had to roasted chicken last night. I had been good all day at a show that had pizza vendors, barbeque, etc., but it finally got me.

Back to the smoothie this morning and speaking of smoothies, I had to get one from a Smoothie King yesterday and it was actually too sweet. I asked that no extra sugar or sweetener be added, but.....

Will make a veggie one for lunch today. I have some fresh watercress I am anxious to try but I don't think I will try the oriental bitter melon. Just can't envision a tasty drink from that.

Another experiment will be raw butternut squash. I know it would make a good one cooked, but I want to stay with raw as much as possible, so....

My weight loss seems to have leveled off at 12 pounds right now. I was hoping for more, but...my waist size seems to keep getting better so maybe it is just readjusting. Hmmmm.

Need to do more exercising and these cool mornings are reminding me I have to get that wood cut up and brought closer to the house.

-- Posted by stevemills on Wed, Oct 3, 2012, at 10:18 AM

A little disappointed. I've actually put a few pounds back on. I am sure it has nothing to do with the snacks Debbi has within about 4 steps from my desk. :-(

Actually, I have been pretty good about staying away from them. Pretty good, not perfect.

-- Posted by stevemills on Thu, Oct 4, 2012, at 4:28 PM

I had a yummy concoction last night but I am just throwing things in and not writing them down so I guess the thought that I sell a recipe book is not in the future. LOL

This morning I woke up dreaming of coffee. I have been trying to stay away from it and doing fairly well but it got to me through my dreams, so I decided to make a drink using fresh, un-brewed coffee.

Not bad, but the grainy texture might turn some folks off. I can't say it was all coffee beans since I threw in flax seed, and almonds. I also added plain yogurt and a banana to give it some "body" along with a touch of vanilla and 2 cups of ice.

Not an award winner, but I will do it again with a piece of dark chocolate and maybe an extra banana. And of course, it accomplished another goal, I am not hungry.

I am thinking of starting a new post that will be more reflective of my daily (almost) posts about this juicing/smoothie thing I am doing. Maybe "Chronicles of a juicing neophyte" Any thoughts?

-- Posted by stevemills on Fri, Oct 5, 2012, at 7:37 AM

Steve,

Been away, glad you're doing so well.

-- Posted by dmcg on Sun, Oct 7, 2012, at 8:30 AM

Thanks dmcg. I do a little "backsliding" at times but in general, I am continuing to improve.

-- Posted by stevemills on Mon, Oct 8, 2012, at 7:42 AM


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Steve Mills and his wife have one daughter and live on a farm outside of Bell Buckle. They previously owned two coffee/ice cream shops, currently operate an internet sales company and teach classes, but his primary job involves the paper industry worldwide. Hobbies and interests lie in gardening, photography, recorded music and of course, their pets.