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Concern over hunter's lack of etiquette and respect for landowners

Posted Wednesday, November 21, 2012, at 8:38 AM

This comment came in on another blog post, but seemed to warrant more specific attention.

"I would like to comment on hunters and private property. While I know the laws states that property owners need to put up signs to tell hunters not to hunt on their land - I would like to say that anyone who is out wandering with a gun should be smart enough to know when they have gone onto land that does not belong to them.

They should have the decency to ask the property owner if it is OK to hunt their land. I may sound odd and be going out on a limb here but I am not comfortable with people wandering on MY property without my knowledge.

If they are not smart enough to know where their property lines are, and mine which are not even adjacent to theirs are how can they be considered safe with a gun? I do not think I should have to worry about me, my grandchildren or pets going out on MY land because hunters may be out there.

If they are not smart enough to know where their property lines are, or do not have the decency to ask before trespassing they should not be loose with guns unsupervised.

It is just not right that land owners should be afraid to wander their own land because hunters are so disrespectful as to think they have more rights to it than the owner does.

Maybe someone can help me understand the mentality behind the thought that hunters have the right to go around shooting guns where ever they choose. I am not some anti gun person, I am not against people owning guns, that is not the problem.

The problem is the total disregard, the total lack of respect many hunters have. I do not believe they are too ignorant to know when they're off their land. They can see when they aim at an animal if it is on land that the shooter does or does not own.

It is not the case of shooting the animal and it ran over to our property, they drive up and down the road looking for them , they are not neighbors , they are not welcome."

-- Posted by jstus on Tue, Nov 20, 2012, at 7:57 PM


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We too own land and it is prime for deer and turkey. However. we also do not like hunters on our property for several reasons. If they do not know the property, they could easily be shooting at the house, but we also like to be a safe haven.

We have our land posted but we also found the remains of deer that appears to have field dressed on our land. (only once, about 10 years ago) Last night I was working on our water lines, but intentionally made noise to make anyone aware that I was there.

They should not have been there, but after the fact is a little too late. When our daughter was younger we restricted her time in the woods and always wanted her wearing bright colored clothes.

I say all this to say that I understand your concerns but in reality, we have NEVER seen anyone on our property and have been politely asked by numerous hunters over the years.

We have given permission to one responsible hunter who hunts our neighbor's land to pursue any mortally injured deer onto the edges of our property, but if they get out of the line of vision, the deer has escaped and fate will determined their future.

-- Posted by stevemills on Wed, Nov 21, 2012, at 9:42 AM

It is a sad truth that this does occur. The vast majority of hunters are respectful and courteous to the landowners even offering gifts and assistance for your hospitality. These hunters usually are not encountered anywhere except at your front door or whereever you may be when asked for permission to hunt.

However, the few, that do conduct themselves dispicably, give the others a bad name which often results in a dim view of the whole lot. My suggestion is io obtain the phone number of the local wildlife enforcement officer and have him remove any trespassing hunters from your property anytime they, or evidence of them, is seen. The appearence of the officers vehicle on your property from time to time will discourage future problems.

These types of people will only respond to force and are likely to return if not confronted. Additionally, others of like kind will likely be drawn to this area as word gets out. This can also work to your advantage, if an officer is routinley present, then the word is that this is an area where you don't want to be fooling around.

It is sad that these steps are necassart, but that is why we have locks on our doors. Most people are not theives, which is what these people are, but the ones that are cause us to act.

-- Posted by Liveforlight on Thu, Nov 22, 2012, at 4:54 AM

It is sad that a few uncaring bad apples give all hunters a bad name. They seem to think they have a right to hunt on any property they choosse to. There have been many times that I discovered people hunting on my property without permission. I have left notes on vehicles and tried to get their attention. They will stop for a while, only to come back. I posted signs but they were torn down. Not only do they hunt during the day, but they run their dogs at night. That causes my dog to bark and thus keeps me awake. What can one do other than calling the game warden only to have the people gone before they get here.

-- Posted by patszoo on Mon, Nov 26, 2012, at 9:10 AM

The Sheriff's department will probably cringe at this, but calling them to report a suspicious car should at least get the license plate recorded and maybe a letter of inquiry from them.

That would say to the trespasser that law enforcement is aware of them and a repeat offense might get more attention. If I were trespassing, I would find another place to hunt.

-- Posted by stevemills on Mon, Nov 26, 2012, at 5:01 PM

By all means, I am not suggesting a physical confrontation. :-)

-- Posted by stevemills on Mon, Nov 26, 2012, at 5:03 PM

I have only confronted an older man who was sitting by his truck while he ran his new dog on my property. Just today I found a young buck that had been shot in the leg. TWRA wouldn't help since he was still somewhat mobile. A little over a year ago someone shot the albino doe that had live here and surrounding farms for many years. She made it up close to my house and died. I know many neighbors that would have loved to have gotten their hands on that hunter. I will put of signs again. Wonder how long they will last?

-- Posted by patszoo on Mon, Nov 26, 2012, at 6:58 PM

Somehow I do not remember that she had been shot. Sad news.

The fact that she made it close to your house brings up a few more points. Many hunters shoot but never do it well enough to claim their quarry. AND, they are apparently hunting too close to houses.

That is one big reason why we do not allow hunting. We do not trust them to use common sense or even KNOW where their bullets go.

-- Posted by stevemills on Tue, Nov 27, 2012, at 7:49 AM


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Steve Mills and his wife have one daughter and live on a farm outside of Bell Buckle. They previously owned two coffee/ice cream shops, currently operate an internet sales company and teach classes, but his primary job involves the paper industry worldwide. Hobbies and interests lie in gardening, photography, recorded music and of course, their pets.