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Steve Mills

The way it should be done? Maryland school shooting

Posted Wednesday, March 21, 2018, at 10:47 AM
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  • It's worth noting that Maryland has some of the strictest gun laws in the country. "assault weapons" banned, 10 round magazine limit, waiting periods, mandatory handgun registration, one gun a month, universal background checks,...

    Esentially everything liberals say will make us safer, yet it did not stop the shooting.

    What stopped it was what conservatives advocate, a good guy with a gun.

    -- Posted by quietmike on Wed, Mar 21, 2018, at 3:48 PM
  • I read somewhere, maybe in this article that the shooter was also too young to legally own or purchase a firearm. I have not seen yet where they think he got it.

    -- Posted by stevemills on Wed, Mar 21, 2018, at 4:01 PM
  • The reason more gun laws don't stop these events is because homicidal maniacs don't follow the laws. This guy in MD broke the law by being too young. Oh, and by trying to kill people. Maybe if we educated kids better. We should tell them "you can't kill people". And if we want stronger laws, how bout "you really, Really can't kill people"? They did it right today. Thank goodness the SRO wasn't a resident of Coward County like they were in FL. Mike is absolutely right. What stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy (or gal) with a gun. It is better to stand and fight than to cower and hope. I guess the children from FL that were trying to take over public policy have gone back to their Tide pods. At least it gives them something to do.

    -- Posted by fair share on Wed, Mar 21, 2018, at 6:02 PM
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    This shooting in Maryland differs in many ways from the other school shootings. First, the shootings at schools such as Columbine and the recent one in Florida were shooters with military style assault weapons shooting random victims.

    This one in Maryland was a "love-sick teen" with one target, his ex-girlfriend, who he shot.

    Also in every report I've read they've stated they don't know if the shooter took his own life, or the resource officer shot him.

    The shooter was reportedly in the process of shooting himself when the officer shot at him. So no one is sure if his presence made any difference whatsoever. Also, if he had been a random shooter with an AK-47, what chance do you think the resource officer would have had in that situation? 0 to none.

    So the "good guy with a gun" theory doesn't hold much water here again.

    -- Posted by RocketValentine on Thu, Mar 22, 2018, at 3:22 PM
  • Having an assault type weapon does not insure success. One well placed shot would stop that.

    -- Posted by stevemills on Thu, Mar 22, 2018, at 4:50 PM
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    Steve, so how would you feel about your chances going into a shoot-out with a guy firing a AK-47 with a high capacity ammo clip, and you have a handgun?

    Would you like those odds?

    -- Posted by RocketValentine on Thu, Mar 22, 2018, at 5:07 PM
  • An AK-47 and an AR-15 are different weapons. I am not aware of AK 47 rifles being used, but if they were busy shooting defenseless targets, a trained person's chance would be good.

    Much depends on the situation, training, calmness and accuracy. If the person knew where the assailant was and had an element of surprise they would rely on their accuracy and training to put them at a severe disadvantage quickly.

    Most assailants today are not trained, they are just going after unprepared targets

    -- Posted by stevemills on Thu, Mar 22, 2018, at 7:22 PM
  • Sounds like some think just because they don't want to protect themselves they think no one else should be able to either. I'm tempted to ask how moronic can it be to think a good guy with a gun can't stop a bad guy with a gun. But I won't. They would just take that as a challenge.

    -- Posted by fair share on Thu, Mar 22, 2018, at 7:56 PM
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    I attended an "active shooter" training seminar last month in Murfreesboro.

    It was given by a police officer who was also a member of the S.W.A.T. Team.

    His personal opinion was that it was a horrible idea to arm teachers in schools.

    -- Posted by RocketValentine on Thu, Mar 22, 2018, at 8:17 PM
  • Wow, RV. I'm shocked. I find it hard to believe a SWAT guy wouldn't want teachers invading his territory. Too bad for the kids the teachers are only able to protect them by standing between them and the bullets until SWAT gets there. Probably after it is over. But hey, I understand not making SWAT look bad.

    -- Posted by fair share on Thu, Mar 22, 2018, at 9:09 PM
  • I think the SRO did his job great and it worked! There are many more stories like this out there, they just don't get the publicity mass shootings get, doesn't fit the narrative.

    Security works if you have it. Just an officer is not enough in my opinion. There also needs to be barriers restricting access to the facility.

    I am not in favor of arming teachers because teachers are already under a lot of stress dealing with unruly, immoral, kids and parents. That alone could cause the teacher to snap and become the shooter. I am not opposed to letting a well trained and mentally strong teacher carry, but, they should not be the first line of defense.

    There will have to be good guys with guns, because there will always be bad guys with guns. Guns are not going to just disappear because a law is passed saying they are illegal. Keeping the good guys with guns in close proximity to where the bad guys with guns are likely to show up is just common sense. Guns don't carry themselves it takes a "guy". Unfortunately, the supply of bad guys seems to be growing exponentially.

    The greatest threat is when the bad guys with guns are also wearing badges. That is why we have a second amendment.

    -- Posted by Liveforlight on Thu, Mar 22, 2018, at 9:48 PM
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    It's sad to see how some republicans have such disrespect for our law enforcement.

    Fairshare believes the only reason the trained police/S.W.A.T officer, the guy who's actually been in an active shooter situation and teaches a seminar about it, this officer's only reason for not having armed teachers is that it could damage his ego? He doesn't want anyone "invading his territory" or "making him look bad"?

    That's a low blow to a guy putting his life on the line everyday for his community.

    And then we have Liveforlight, who believes that corruption in law enforcement is so prevalent that it's "the greatest threat", and the reason he needs his gun and we need the 2nd Amendment.

    Whatever happened to "Blue lives Matter "? You guys sure jumped off that wagon pretty quick.

    -- Posted by RocketValentine on Fri, Mar 23, 2018, at 5:00 AM
  • That is pretty interesting coming from a BLMer. Of course, it makes sense that someone who doesn't think his own life matters would be anti Second Amendment. Ego might not be the only reason, but it is awfully naive to think it doesn't enter the equation. Anyone that knows much about history would know our Founding Fathers said we need the Second Amendment to protect ourselves from the government long before Liveforlight was a gleam in his parents eyes. Time to go get some Tylenol. My belly is kinda sore. At least I got a good laugh. Thanks,RV.

    -- Posted by fair share on Fri, Mar 23, 2018, at 5:44 AM
  • Those European gun control laws our house liberals love to tout, weren't much help for the French citizens who were shot/being held hostage in a supermarket this morning.

    Given the choice, I'd wager they'd love to have taken their chances with a gun.

    -- Posted by quietmike on Fri, Mar 23, 2018, at 8:41 AM
  • First of all RV I never said that corruption in law enforcement is prevelent. You shouldn't make statements about what others believe.

    The implication I made was that the second amendment was created for the purpose of preventing the corruption, thereby securing a free society.

    Your asinine ascertions give credence to the term "useful idiots". The purpose of which is to hand over control of their lives to the government thereby becoming slaves. Once the usefulness is gone, so is the idiot.

    -- Posted by Liveforlight on Fri, Mar 23, 2018, at 10:02 AM
  • The superintendent in Shcuylkill county Pennsylvania says arming teachers would be ineffective, so instead, he wants every classroom to be equipped with a 5 gallon bucket of river rocks for teachers and students to throw at a possible future gunman.

    http://wnep.com/2018/03/22/superintendent-says-students-are-armed-with-rocks-in-...

    -- Posted by quietmike on Fri, Mar 23, 2018, at 3:44 PM
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    Fair, I'm a gun owner and believe in the 2nd amendment.

    The belief in sensible gun laws that would keep military style weapons and high capacity magazines out of the hands of ordinary citizens doesn't make one "anti second amendment".

    And this argument that you need these weapons to protect yourselves from our government is probably the most ridiculous gun nut argument of all of them all.

    First of all, you have to buy into the scenario of the government declaring Marshal Law and coming to take all your guns away. Something I'm sure Sui believes is inevitable, but average folks don't even think about. It's ridiculous.

    But let's say it did happen. Tell me how this plays out in your mind.

    Do you and a few of your buddies dress up in camouflage, paint your faces, and hide out in the woods behind your house in a tree stand and fend off the U.S. military like you're Rambo or Steve Segal or something?

    Is that what happens?

    And Mikey, you make a great point without even trying with your link about the school superintendent in Pennsylvania. Obviously this guy is off his rocker, right?

    So hey...let's give this guy a gun!

    When I think back at my years in school, the thought of any of my teachers carrying a loaded firearm would have been terrifying. Some of them were just plain crazy.

    -- Posted by RocketValentine on Fri, Mar 23, 2018, at 5:50 PM
  • RV, you make the argument about armed citizens ridiculous because you see it as ridiculous, you need it to be ridiculous, otherwise your narrative on restricting gun rights falls apart. You may have even been taught in college that it is ridiculous and that resistance is futile.

    The same thing was surely said to Washington when they opposed the greatest military force in the world at that time. Opposing tyranny against overwhelming odds is never ridiculous, it is noble.

    The reality of it is it doesn't happen all at once but in degrees. The saying "give an inch they take a mile" is true. They don't take the mile all at once, but an inch at a time.

    It is the socialist that have historically used mass murdering as a way to eliminate their opponents and enslave the citizenry. There can be little doubt that todays democrat party is socialist. It is also little wonder that todays socialist/democrats would want to disarm those they intend to control, not all at once but by degrees.

    BTW, we are not currently concerned with protecting ourselves from the U.S. military, but a perverted form of it, or an altogether new government is certainly a possibility. Other governments and military forces have considered invasion of the U.S. and realized the resistance from an armed populous would put them in an untenable position.

    There are common sense countermeasures to protect our children that do not involve restricting people rights. That is what we need to pursue.

    -- Posted by Liveforlight on Fri, Mar 23, 2018, at 7:35 PM
  • And this argument that you need these weapons to protect yourselves from our government is probably the most ridiculous gun nut argument of all of them all.

    -posted by RocketValentine

    Aside from the very obvious fact that reading the federalist papers and other contemporary writings of the founders makes it abundantly clear this was the reason for the 2nd,let's look at some historical examples.

    FDR, a socialist hero rounded up tens of thousands of innocent Japanese and put them in internment camps, so the argument that it couldn't happen here goes out the window.

    As for ctizens standing up to a corrupt government, it happened here in Tennessee, a few miles down the road in Athens Tennessee.

    https://m.warhistoryonline.com/instant-articles/battle-athens-group.html

    Further if regular people couldn't stand up to the US military, what about Vietnam or Afghanistan?

    Along with this, one has to realize all of the military and police would not follow unconstitutional orders to disarm citizens as there is even a group, called the oathkeepers, who have pledged to follow their oath to protect the constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic.

    RV, you comment of "giving the superintendent a gun" is silly since it's very obvious he doesn't want one. No one is saying force teachers to carry, simply leave them the option if they want it. Force is a liberal purview.

    Once again useless democrats, who refuse to accept responsibility for their own lives demand concessions from those of us who do.

    -- Posted by quietmike on Fri, Mar 23, 2018, at 7:56 PM
  • I'm a gun owner and believe in the 2nd amendment.

    The belief in sensible gun laws that would keep military style weapons and high capacity magazines out of the hands of ordinary citizens doesn't make one "anti second amendment".-posted by RV

    If someone said they opposed domestic violence, except when she was really mouthing off, would you think they really opposed domestic violence?

    The second says "shall not be infringed" yet democrats who say they believe in the 2nd have been infringing for a hundred years.

    Pitiful that dems who love government can't read and understand Supreme Court rulings that say the second applies to all individuals regardless of any association with a militia, and covers ALL bearable arms, even those not available at the time of the founding.

    I guess the drive to eschew responsibility overrides everything else.

    -- Posted by quietmike on Fri, Mar 23, 2018, at 8:11 PM
  • Well, RV, I gotta say you've surprised me. Sure wouldn't have figured you for a gun owner. Daisy or Red Ryder? Or maybe a .410 rat blaster? Guess you forgot about the handful of ranchers that stood up to the Feds out West a few years back. With the help of their ARs (Army Rifles, or if you prefer, Assault Rifles/ machine guns). No matter how much you may claim to be a gun lover, it sounds like hot air to me when you follow the proclamation with an entreaty to keep ratcheting back the 2nd Amendment. Don't know if you've heard it yet or not, but there is a saying I've heard before: "The 1st day of the death of the 2nd Amendment will be the 1st day of the 2nd Revolution.".

    -- Posted by fair share on Fri, Mar 23, 2018, at 8:57 PM
  • Seems as tho unreal has given up on her jokes. So, to fill the void:

    Joke Of The Week

    Q: What is the difference between Hillary and Putin?

    A: Putin can win an election he rigs in his favor.

    -- Posted by fair share on Fri, Mar 23, 2018, at 10:49 PM
  • Student gun control activists in Florida were clamoring for more to be done to make them safe. The school responded with a number of new safety rules, among them student ID and a rule that all backpacks must be clear.

    CNN interviewed students who weren't happy with the new rules, with one asking "Why are you punishing me for what one person did?"

    I'm guessing they don't teach logic at that school.

    -- Posted by quietmike on Fri, Mar 23, 2018, at 11:02 PM
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    In your paranoid fantasy where you take up arms against The United States military, I only mentioned that you must think of yourselves as Rambo or Steven Segal. But as Fairshare and Liveforlight pointed out, I forgot to add Cliven Bundy and George Washington to your list of alter egos.

    I apologize, and if I've left any others off the list (Billy Jack, Jason Bourne) please let me know.

    Mikey, your link about "citizens standing up to a corrupt government" read more like a local skirmish reminiscent of The Hatfields and McCoys.

    I didn't read anywhere that the U.S. Government or military was ever involved.

    "Well, RV, I gotta say you've surprised me. Sure wouldn't have figured you for a gun owner. Daisy or Red Ryder? Or maybe a .410 rat blaster?"

    Posted by fair share on Fri, Mar 23, 2018,

    Yeah fair, I just have a regular old 20 gauge single shot for conventional use.

    Unlike your AR-15 penile extension you need for your upcoming imaginary uprising against the U.S. military.

    -- Posted by RocketValentine on Sat, Mar 24, 2018, at 7:19 AM
  • RV

    I guess since you haven't read and understood the constitution, the federalist papers, or other contemporary writings of the founders,or several SCOTUS rulings, you likely didn't read about a group of regular people beating the greatest military in the world at the time to gain our independence.

    I guess they shouldn't have bothered since modern liberals would rather have a government wet nurse to powder their behind and tell them everything will be ok than to have freedom.

    -- Posted by quietmike on Sat, Mar 24, 2018, at 7:50 AM
  • -- Posted by RocketValentine on Sat, Mar 24, 2018, at 8:19 AM
  • OK glow stick.

    I guess the effeminate soy boys of the democrat party are triggered when they see people standing up for their second amendment rights.

    It reminds them of their personal inadequacies.

    https://i.pinimg.com/236x/77/f2/5f/77f25f2e199ba754487e8b3bf50b0a9b.jpg

    -- Posted by quietmike on Sat, Mar 24, 2018, at 8:52 AM
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    Watching the news this morning it's nice to see thousands of other young Americans standing up for their rights also.

    -- Posted by RocketValentine on Sat, Mar 24, 2018, at 9:14 AM
  • Standing up for their rights...

    Only in looney liberal land could people be so brainwashed that they think petitioning government to restrict their rights is a good thing.

    Please protect me government, I'm too inept to do it myself!

    -- Posted by quietmike on Sat, Mar 24, 2018, at 9:39 AM
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    "Please protect me government, I'm too inept to do it myself!"

    -- Posted by quietmike on Sat, Mar 24, 2018, at 9:39

    So I guess you have no need for the police force, fire dept., public roadways, etc.

    Examples of our evil government taking care of your lazy a$$ Mikey.

    You should really stand up and take personal responsibility for your own life.

    The thousands marching today don't feel their rights would be restricted by not having military style assault weapons readily available to the general public.

    Most Americans believe that this would actually make everyone safer.

    It's only ones like you, with their own personal inadequacies like thinking your right to play Rambo with assault weapons outweighs the right of school kids not to live in fear of getting slaughtered by one of you nut jobs, that still believes easy access to these weapons is perfectly fine.

    -- Posted by RocketValentine on Sat, Mar 24, 2018, at 10:07 AM
  • I know lazy histrionics are a substitute for reasoned logic among liberals, but let me point out this little tidbit for you.

    The murder rate today, even after obama, the best gun salesman in history, gave us year after year of record gun sales, is far below the murder rate in the 90s,when Clinton's assault weapons ban was in place.

    Being excited for children marching for removal of rights shows, yet again, your ignorance of history.

    Mao did the same thing with his red guard.

    Hitler with his Hitler youth.

    Castro with his popular socialist youth.

    Instead of pining for freebies and concessions, why not pick up a history book?

    -- Posted by quietmike on Sat, Mar 24, 2018, at 11:04 AM
  • America should be ashamed of not protesting our children.Our kids should not have to be afraid in school and have to be grateful just to get back home everyday.Proud of future voters of America,thousands are registering at rallies today across America.Dumpty is hiding from the kids at Mar0=A-Largo again this weekend.His own wife refused to ride in the same car with him to Airforce One.After Stormys interview Sunday night no telling what might happen.I am sure he has some big announcement right before the show he thinks will deflect the ratings.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Sat, Mar 24, 2018, at 11:53 AM
  • RV with any law comes the issue of enforcement or lack thereof. Hitler was not the one to pass many of the gun laws he used against the Jews, but merely selectively enforced the existing laws against whosoever he wished.

    Similarly, we already have laws that deal with gun possessions many of which were violated by the recent shooter, but not enforced. The enforcement of which would have likely prevented the murders.

    If the existing laws were enforced, then there would be no need for more. Why then are we not concerned with the enforcement of existing laws instead of passing more? Why is more law necessary if we don't intend to enforce them? Without enforcement a law is useless. The only ones who will be affected by it are the ones who are already obeying the laws and they are not the ones committing the murders!!

    For the sake of argument, Let's say another "assault weapons" ban as they are affectionately called, is implemented. No one can "legally" buy this type of weapon any longer. What does that look like?

    Ok, what about possessing one that was previously legally purchased? Is that now illegal also? Obviously, if the gun is illegal to purchase, it has been deemed illegal to possess.

    How do you enforce the law when the weapons are sold in violation of the law? Obama and Holder violated the law by selling weapons to Mexican drug cartels. Where was the enforcement of the law then? Do the laws, like Hitler, only apply to the ones YOU want them applied to? Why are some allowed to violate the law and others are not? Government officials can violate the laws but the citizens can't?

    How then do you proceed to enforce the law against the people who have already purchased the weapons legally? Are they suddenly lawbreakers? Then what, house to house searches?

    Passing more laws is like weaving a net, each law a strand in the net, once the net is completed, and the right regime rises to power, those caught in the trap are in violation and subject to whatever enforcement/punishment the regime deems appropriate. You can call it paranoid but for many millions, now deceased, it is reality.

    You may trust the government explicitly and be willing to relinquish any and all rights to them but most thinking Americans are not.

    -- Posted by Liveforlight on Sat, Mar 24, 2018, at 12:05 PM
  • America should be ashamed of not protesting our children.Our kids should not have to be afraid in school and have to be grateful just to get back home everyday.

    -posted by Lets be real

    You do realize every school in the country is already a gun free zone? Already illegal to shoot people?

    If laws were the answer, why didn't these work?

    I had a gun in my truck most days I went to school as did many other students. No one shot each other back then.

    Since that time liberals have tried to normalize every base and hedonistic behavior possible. They've destroyed the two parent household. They've preached that taking the possessions of others is a natural right. They say doping up kids is preferable to discipline.

    Now, as always, when their progressive fantasies don't work outside their little echo chambers, they demand even more government control, more concessions, less freedoms.

    It's pitiful that none of the liberals who promised to leave the country if Trump was elected followed through with their vow. Our country would be a much better place without them.

    -- Posted by quietmike on Sat, Mar 24, 2018, at 12:44 PM
  • "America should be ashamed of not protesting our children.

    Posted by lets be real on Sat, Mar 24, 2018, at 11:53 AM

    Go ahead, unreal, protest them all you want. I'm not gonna protest the children. It ain't their fault their parents are raising them to be a bunch of snowflake government sheep weenies. I'll stand next to you if you want to protest the parents. Let me know, K?

    -- Posted by fair share on Sat, Mar 24, 2018, at 1:03 PM
  • If it was truly about lives why is it we are ok with the fact 51 people die every 24 hrs from alcohol or 60K + died last year via drugs, or Dr's kill more every year than all the guns ever do. Is it about lives, guns, or is it simply about control.

    The thinking ones among us know the answer.

    -- Posted by quietmike on Sat, Mar 24, 2018, at 1:15 PM
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    "It's pitiful that none of the liberals who promised to leave the country if Trump was elected followed through with their vow. Our country would be a much better place without them."

    -- Posted by quietmike on Sat, Mar 24, 2018, at 12:44 PM

    Yeah well, Ted Nugent promised he'd be dead or in jail if President Obama was elected to a second term.

    And Rush Limbaugh promised he'd move to Costa Rica.

    We're still stuck with those two blathering idiots, so I guess we're even.

    -- Posted by RocketValentine on Sat, Mar 24, 2018, at 5:10 PM
  • Lot of blathering idiots been on television today.

    -- Posted by fair share on Sat, Mar 24, 2018, at 6:03 PM
  • Hey, we agree on something!!!

    -- Posted by stevemills on Sat, Mar 24, 2018, at 7:32 PM
  • We're still stuck with those two blathering idiots, so I guess we're even.

    -- Posted by RocketValentine

    Not even close.

    How much of your paycheck goes to Rush or Ted?

    -- Posted by quietmike on Sat, Mar 24, 2018, at 11:14 PM
  • RocketValentine;

    Did you actually read what you typed about the MD Shooting? You went into detail about the circumstances and how it differed. Your theory is that the shooter was going to shoot himself after shooting his exGF. You give no credit to the SRO who jumped in and took aim to stop the shooter. Doesn't matter if he fired or not, he took responsibility to stop the shooter. That's more than the deputy done in FL.

    You also showed your color as well when you said "So no one is sure if his presence made any difference whatsoever. Also, if he had been a random shooter with an AK-47, what chance do you think the resource officer would have had in that situation? 0 to none.

    So the "good guy with a gun" theory doesn't hold much water here again."

    You're wrong again. It made a great difference because he was there and the people knew he was trying to stop the shooter and save the kids. He isn't called a hero, but he was in my book because he was a good guy with a gun and did something to help. If the SRO hadn't been there at the right time, who is to say what the shooter would have done. He may have taken out a few more people he didn't like. Or just emptied his gun on whoever was close by. No one knows! well, no one except you!

    With your previous statement, you acted just like that Deputy in the FL school shooting who was too scared to do anything BECAUSE it would be useless to him. What chance do you have with just a small hand gun? It could distract the shooter from killing more kids until the reenforcements got there. Not only was that deputy a coward, but told the other deputies that came up to stay 500 feet away from the building.

    That Deputy should be tried as an accessory to the crime because he actually helped the shooter kill more children by keeping the deputies away.

    Marshal Law;

    During and before Hurricane Katrina and during the aftermath, the National Guard invoked Marshal law and took the guns away from everyone they ran into who had weapons on or with them or shot them dead if they refused to give them up. Tell me that was constitutional killings?

    Arms against the Government?

    There is No way we can stand against the Air Force, Marines, Seals, Special Forces, and our local cops, deputies, swat teams, Drug Enforcement Agents, ATF Agents, IRS Agents, CIA, State Hwy Patrol, and all the National Guards, let alone the Army Military with night vision glasses, Tanks, Rocket Launcher, Mortars, Snipers, Flame Throwers, Drones, Helicopters, etc., etc., etc..

    We have to hope that the government won't get too evil against the people as long as most have guns.

    Read the Declaration of Independence. You will read that our government today is doing the exact same things that the King was doing back then that made our forefather go to war with them.

    So you don't need an automatic military style weapon, huh?

    If a shooter came busting through your front door with an AK-47 or M-16 you would wished you had an assault rife to defend your family. But then you really don't need an automatic military style weapon because you and your whole family would be dead!

    The thousands Marching Today are idiots. They have just placed themselves in one big Target Zone to be killed by a Shooter in DC or a Truck Driver. Just how stupid do these kids get?

    They take to the streets to speak out about something that no one has any control over. The Democrats have pushed them into putting their lives in more danger.

    They loaded all those kids on buses and drove them to DC from all over. I didn't read about any one with Guns shooting at them along the way. It's just the nuts, or kids that all the other kids bullied or tormented that drove them to shoot up the schools or kids. Your average American isn't going to shoot anyone.

    Any new Gun laws can only apply to people after the date of enactment, otherwise it is a Bill of Attainder or ex post facto Law which is a violation of the powers of the state and federal government. They can not charge you with buying a weapon that wasn't illegal when you bought or obtained it. There was no law against it. And the standing law is they can not infringe upon your right to keep and bare arms, UNLESS you are a Government employee or a U.S Citizen (immigrant or citizen of a US Territory). They have civil rights not unalienable rights.

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    lets be real

    What is your answer for protesting our children in school and on the way to and from? America should be ashamed? The authorities are the ones to blame because they get paid to do a job and they don't do it then complain if they get fired before their pension comes in.

    These Future Voters scare me! They look at the name Trump in chalk on the sidewalk and they need their brain looked at and weeks of Counseling and they are registering to vote Today. They aren't even old enough to buy a gun, so why should they care if people want guns for protection? Who is going to protect them at home if their parents can't own guns? The cops will only tell you they can't do anything until the shooter shoots someone. Some protection that is!

    It isn't the Presidents job to protect the people form criminals. That is the job of the law enforcement. Trumps job is the see to it that the laws are executed. The democrats won't let him do that either. They block Trump at every turn.

    In the coming years (not far away either) the school dummies who graduate by the thousands and brain washed to believe like a democrat will vote in our elections and take back the house, senate and the office of The POTUS. I shutter at the thought of what this country will be like at that time.

    The democrats can't think straight today and can only repeat what they heard some other democrat utter. The only agenda the Democrats have is to get Trump out of the POTUS Chair. After that they have no plans for anything! The republicans just voted themselves a raise so we need to get all of them out of office and place new people in before they get use to that pay increase. They are getting paid to do NOTHING!!!!!!

    -- Posted by sui on Sun, Mar 25, 2018, at 2:58 AM
  • Hey, unreal, here's another joke of the day for you.

    Q: What is the difference between the NRA and Planned Parenthood?

    A: The NRA doesn't sell arms.

    I hate to say that despite how sad and sick that is, I did get a pretty good chuckle out of it.

    -- Posted by fair share on Mon, Mar 26, 2018, at 12:47 AM
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    A more realistic example....

    Q: What's the difference between Planned Parenthood and the NRA?

    A: Planned Parenthood provides healthcare(cancer screenings, exams, vaccinations, etc.)

    The NRA puts you in need of healthcare(gunshot wounds)

    -- Posted by RocketValentine on Mon, Mar 26, 2018, at 10:33 AM
  • Only a useless liberal would champion Planned parenthood who kills an unborn baby every 90 seconds, while they criticize the NRA who've never killed anyone.

    Maybe if the NRA helped liberals dodge responsibility, they'd find a new ally

    -- Posted by quietmike on Mon, Mar 26, 2018, at 10:37 AM
  • Ha, ha, ha. Gotta hand it to you, RV. Yours is funnier. But only because it is a lie. The NRA does not hurt people, it helps protect them. Unlike PP which actually does cause physical and psychological harm to people.

    -- Posted by fair share on Mon, Mar 26, 2018, at 12:13 PM
  • What causes physical and psychological harm to people is not being able to afford insurance. PP gives them peace of mind as they can get cancer screening,exams and vaccines as prevention.Abortions are only a small part of their services.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Mon, Mar 26, 2018, at 1:24 PM
  • Another belly buster. Good one, unreal.

    -- Posted by fair share on Mon, Mar 26, 2018, at 2:01 PM
  • What causes physical and psychological harm to people is not being able to afford insurance. PP gives them peace of mind as they can get cancer screening,exams and vaccines as prevention.Abortions are only a small part of their services.

    -- Posted by lets be real

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    Obamacare didn't fix all that?

    -- Posted by quietmike on Mon, Mar 26, 2018, at 2:08 PM
  • *

    Only a useless conservative would champion the NRA who kill 96 Americans everyday, while they criticize Planned Parenthood who've never killed anyone.

    Maybe if Planned Parenthood helped conservatives dodge responsibility, they'd find a new ally.

    -- Posted by RocketValentine on Mon, Mar 26, 2018, at 5:12 PM
  • I know you are, but what am I?

    I knew liberalism was just glorified infantile dependency, but, wow....

    Still waiting for an example of a liberal platform or piece of legislation that isn't based on avoiding adult responsibility and/or freebies.

    Take your time, it's only been years now.

    -- Posted by quietmike on Mon, Mar 26, 2018, at 7:30 PM
  • RV, sounds like you've gone off the deep end. Ok, I understand how you might actually think PP hasn't killed anyone since you believe a person 1 minute before birth is just a mass of tissue. Doesn't mean they don't kill many a day, but I do understand how you can make yourself think that. But how on God's green earth can you claim (presumably with a straight face) the NRA ever killed anyone, much less 96 a day? The only reasonable explanation would be total loss of touch with reality. Oh, or maybe could be explained by blindly following the progressive/donkey party line and parroting what the ruling comrades proclaim.

    -- Posted by fair share on Mon, Mar 26, 2018, at 8:34 PM
  • You people just don't get it do you?

    GOD gives two people, a man and a woman a child. It starts with a seed and an egg and grows into an Embryo. That Embryo gets its nourishment from the mother thru the connecting Embryo cord. If that isn't LIFE already in the womb, why does it need to be feed by the mother thru the cord?

    If the woman doesn't want the child she should take a morning after pill to stop it before it developes into an living Embryo.

    Let's get back to GOD for a minute. GOD gave everyone the right to do anything they want to do to enjoy their own life, (As Long as they don't injure anyone (Embryo included), damage or destroy anyone's property and they keep their contracts they make with others.)

    An abortion is just plain first degree premeditated Murder! And if you don't want to look at an Embryo as a Life, look at it as doing damage to something that would have been a life. Either way it's Murder.

    Now let's take the NRA. The NRA doesn't kill anyone nor does it tell anyone to kill anyone. Instead it teaches anyone who is interested in learning, how to handle, store, carry and use a gun of any size or shape. It teaches gun safety and the laws on owning guns. Without the NRA can you imagine all the people who would be killed by ignorant gun owners. Look at how many people are shot and even killed while cleaning their gun.

    Now let's go back to GOD again!

    GOD gave everyone the right to do anything they want to do to enjoy their own life, Liberty and pursuit of happiness, (As Long as they don't injure anyone, damage or destroy anyone's property and they keep their contracts they make with others.)

    Pretty simple, Huh?

    Laws are not made for the good people. Laws are made to punish the bad people and criminals and murderers.

    How many laws have you read that said any person who is good must go to jail until they can straighten up and learn how to do something bad.

    Now let's look at the Constitution!

    It does not say we have a Right to Keep and Bare Arms! It says the government can not infringe upon our Right to KEEP and BARE Arms.

    So we can plainly see that our Fore Fathers did not say anything about the gov giving us any rights. They have said over and over again that GOD gave us our rights, not the Constitution nor the Bill of Rights. They only describe 10 rights that we can all claim, but we have all the rights in the world if we choose them. No one can tell you something is not your right to do or not do, (Unless you are a government employee or a "Federal Citizen").

    Our Rights, whatever we choose to do, was given to us by GOD, not by some man made document. The man made documents tell the government that they can not interfere with your Life, Liberty and Pursuit of Happiness.

    Now let me see if you understand this!

    GOD our Creator, not like our framers, Knew exactly what would happen in the years to come and what weapons would be available to people of every century, so the Frames were smart to just say ARMS, because it is GOD's call.

    GOD knew there would be automatic weapons in our lifetime, but there is nothing in the bible that says we have to give up our arms or weapons. Where are all those devoted Christians who stood up and confessed that GOD would protect them from the Trials and Tribulations, plaques and horsemen? Didn't that include the children as well? Everyone wants to call on GOD AFTER it happens, but didn't hesitate to kick GOD out of their schools and threw the bible and the whole Christian Religion out the doors of all the schools run by the Democrats.Did GOD turn his back on the school population or did the people turn away from GOD? That one is easy to answer!

    Getting back to the Framers, they have left it all up to GOD's Plan for people to Live their lives anyway they choose to. If man injures others or damages other peoples' property or don't keep their contracts, well, they can be punished by man. Other than that, Man can do any thing he feels is morally okay to do.

    No Man can make any laws that would override GOD's Law that he gave to Men and Women at birth. The right to life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness

    Since the law recognizes that NO MAN has the right to tell another man what he can or can't do without violating his right to Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness, that eliminates the need for laws.

    However, Congress was given the right to make all "Codes", "Rules" and "Regulations" governing it's federal citizens (14th amendment citizens and their descendants) and citizens of the U.S. Territories, without any constitutional limitations or restrictions.

    Codes, Rules and Regulations are NOT Laws! They are Codes, Rules and Regulations that congress and State Legislators can enact upon Government Officers, Officials, Employees and 14th amendment federal citizens because they are federal citizens and subject to federal and state Codes, Rules and Regulations.

    So basically, Gun Control Laws, are nothing more than Codes, Rules or Regulations written by congress and State Legislators that apply to U.S. Federal Citizens and 14th amendment citizens and the people living in the U.S Territories. These people are "PERSONS" or "CORPORATIONS" and subject to commercial law.

    So what is a "Person" to do? GRIN AND BARE IT!

    -- Posted by sui on Tue, Mar 27, 2018, at 2:02 AM
  • Ever notice the liberal claim that requiring an ID (to vote) disenfranchises poor minorities is absent when the subject turns to guns?

    Not only has ID been required to buy a gun since 1968 (thanks to democrats), also background checks, and many other hoops if you happen to be unlucky enough to live in a long term democrat controlled state.

    It's almost like liberals believe some rights count more than others.

    -- Posted by quietmike on Tue, Mar 27, 2018, at 1:55 PM
  • Bob Dylan was right. The times, they are a-changin'. Seems like just yesterday the protester class was protesting police brutality (remember, it is the person's fault, not the gun's). Now they are protesting so only the cops can have guns. And little Skippy Hogg wants his generation to start a revolution. Without guns. Maybe it is time we level the playing field. Quit calling them "illegal guns". They are undocumented weapons. And why not let them live in sanctuary homes?

    Now I have a humor question, for those who have a sense of it.

    Q: Why are there no knock knock jokes about America?

    A: Because Freedom Rings!

    -- Posted by fair share on Tue, Mar 27, 2018, at 4:04 PM
  • I saw on the News that a Supreme Court Justice said the 2nd amendment needs to be repealed.

    He has no business being a Supreme court Justice. They can not take away any rights that have been acknowledged as a right for the people.

    Like I said above. Our right to bare arms is an unalienable right given to the people by GOD. Therefore the corporation can not take it away because it never gave us the right.

    The Bill of Rights and the 2nd Amendment does Not give us a right to Keep and Bear arms. It says the Government can not infringe on our right to bear arms.

    So what would they repeal?

    Will they repeal the word "Militias" because our right to bear arms has nothing to do with the Militias. Since God gave us Unalienable rights before we were ever born, the Militias didn't exist when God gave us our Unalienable Rights.

    Will they repeal the word "arms" and replace it with swords and axes, that were used in earlier wars?

    Will they repeal the words, "shall not be infringed".

    They could even remove the 2nd amendment and we would still have the right to bear arms, BECAUSE we were blessed with the right to keep and bear anything we want to or can afford to buy to use as a weapon.

    When you look at what is going on in America Today, you will see that the youths in America who haven't begun to now what Life is like on earth, are trying to rule the world with their Democratic Brainwashing.

    If they don't want people to own guns, move to a country that doesn't allow people to own guns and see how long they will live.

    In order to have Rights, you must know what rights you have, THEN you must claim your rights and fight for them or you will lose them.

    So go ahead and repeal the 2nd amendment. There are plenty of laws on the books that protect your right to keep and bear arms.

    The 2nd amendment doesn't give you the right to bear arms! It prevents the government from infringing on your right to keep and bear arms.

    -- Posted by sui on Tue, Mar 27, 2018, at 10:11 PM
  • That's like having Easter Sunday on April Fools Day! How did that happen?

    Is that the Devil messing with Gods day or God messing with the Devils day?

    Now we will get to see if the two totally opposite Religions can share the same day or if we will have to repeal the 1st amendment!

    -- Posted by sui on Tue, Mar 27, 2018, at 10:20 PM
  • Those kids and adults that marched on Washington and in every larger city in America were personally affected by gun violence! They knew darn well what was up, and what they were doing! Especially the kids! After so many school shootings, theater shootings, mall shootings, etc and nothing done about the violence in Washington, it was time to stand up, and had nothing to do with whither liberals played a role, they just want to be safe from gun violence!

    If it takes any or many laws to keep even one person safer in schools or in public places it should be done! Weapons of war are just that "made for killing in war", and should not be legal for anyone to possess outside of the theaters of war!

    Guns for protection and hunting is one thing but automatic high caliper rifles with multiple clips are not needed for personal safety or hunting and should definitely be illegal on our streets.

    Those in politics that are receiving money from the NRA, pharmaceutical companies, or any organization to push an agenda should not be in office itís bribery to do so to start with!

    Itís definitely time for politics to be for the safety of us all regardless of affiliation! If you donít stand against the way the government has been operating and getting nothing done then you will fall for anything they are doing....our government is so corrupt by greed alone in this country, that bribery has been made law! The government should be for the people and not a corrupt organization for themselves to line their pockets.

    At least these kids, which were standing for their own future are smart enough to stand up for what is right....these killing fields need to stop and be a thing in the past....there should never be another school shooting and if it takes banning any weapons of war...so be it!

    I would rather boast of how safe our schools are then boast of how many guns I have...we will see what a difference the march and standing up for a cause of survival made come November!....Just saying!

    -- Posted by chefgrape on Wed, Mar 28, 2018, at 9:55 AM
  • Ooooooooooopos! You forgot to read your U.S. Constitution!

    Call the sheriff's department and tell them someone is trying to break into your home.

    They will send a deputy out who will tell you there is nothing HE can do until someone Breaks into your home or shoots or injures someone. Then he can arrest the party who either damaged your property or injured someone (if he comes back to try again or they can find the intruder). Other than that, he has no duty to protect you.

    It is YOUR responsibility to protect yourself and your family. That is one of the reasons why the government has been told they can not infringe on our right to bear arms!

    Short of taking away our guns, which is unconstitutional, the only thing they can do is make another stupid law telling the good people what they can't do. Criminals do Not obey the law. That is why they are criminals! Duh!

    All the laws you can dream up can NOT stop a shooter who wants to shoot unarmed people (or Children in School). You see, a shooter is a criminal and criminals do Not obey laws.

    Good people don't break the law, or at least not on purpose. SO the laws are written for the criminals who do Not obey them. That's why they are criminals.

    So all your laws that would apply to criminals will only disarm good law abiding people and allow the criminals to keep shooting more unarmed people, because that is what they do.

    Take away the guns and you have just made every home in America a target for home invasion by any criminal who has a gun.

    Just how smart is that?

    Some brain dead Americans just don't use their head for anything but..., Sorry, I Can't think of anything they use their head for!

    Sorry school children, but why should YOU be any safer than a baby left in its car seat in the car on a hot summer day. Sorry school children, but why should YOU be any safer than the child who is kidnapped while playing in his front yard by human trafficers.

    Sorry school children, but why should YOU be any safer than the child riding in an airplane that flys into the side of a mountain or is blown up in the sky or crashes into the ocean somewhere?

    Sorry school children, but why should YOU be any safer than the people who are bombed while watching a runner marathon?

    Sorry school children, but why should YOU be any safer than

    the kids on the school bus that is in a head-on collision with a truck that kills children?

    Sorry school children, but why should YOU be any safer than the people at Malls and Theaters and other special events who are shot to death?

    Sorry school children, but why should YOU be any safer than the people who are killed by M-13 with a machete or baseball bat?

    Sorry school children, but why should YOU be any safer than the people who were run over by a big truck and killed or seriously injured?

    Sorry school children, but why should YOU be any safer than the woman who was beheaded at her work place by a Muslin.

    Grow up little children and face the Real World as it really is! These things happen in real life not just in all those sick video games!

    -- Posted by sui on Wed, Mar 28, 2018, at 11:50 AM
  • Chefgrape, perhaps you really believe the line of bull the left is feeding everyone, but no matter how many times people call AKs and ARs "automatic", it doesn't make it true. And as old Ben Franklin said, if we are willing to sacrifice our freedom for safety, we will have neither, and deserve neither. Those little goofs out marching last Saturday were acting just like the Hitler Youth of the 1930s. History is repeating itself because too many people don't know it or don't care.

    -- Posted by fair share on Wed, Mar 28, 2018, at 12:06 PM
  • "Automatic" weapons and "high caliber weapons" are both either ignorance or lies used to push a narrative.

    As Fair pointed out, the AR-15 is not "automatic" it is semi-automatic, a feature that predates the constitution and many of the founders.

    High caliber? The AR-15 is a 22 caliber (which refers to bore diameter) the same 22 caliber as most of us had as our first rifle as a child. The 223 just has more velocity.

    The 243,30-30,308,30/06,and many other popular rifles (and pistols) have a "higher caliber" than the AR-15.

    I have yet to encounter a gun control proponent who was actually knowledgeable about guns, instead of someone who just repeats the talking points.

    ---

    If it takes any or many laws to keep even one person safer in schools or in public places it should be done!

    ---

    Would that apply to enforcing immigration laws, banning abortions, etc., or is it just about guns?

    -- Posted by quietmike on Wed, Mar 28, 2018, at 1:29 PM
  • If other civilized countries can prevent school shootings, why can't America.Now the NRA has admitted accepting foreign money,we will see how much went to Dumptys campaign.

    Another on bites the dust in the WH.So this is what Dumpty promised his doctor to say what he said about his health,Sec of Veterans Affairs.Have anyone notice that most of Dumpty's appointments have a corrupt history or end up being investigated.

    You Dumpty supporters solve this riddle.He denies having sex with Stormy.He denies paying her $130,000 to not talk about the affair.Yet he is suing her for breach of contract,for a contract that does not exist about an affair that never happened.Go figure.Why is he silent about her and has never tweeted about this which is unusual for him.Could it be he is afraid maybe she has a tape of that spanking?

    -- Posted by lets be real on Wed, Mar 28, 2018, at 8:59 PM
  • Boy, unreal, you really crack me up. First you complain about Trump tweeting, now about him not tweeting. I was wondering why you had been so quiet after Steamy's show with poor Anderson Cooper. What a dud. She was pretty much shooting blanks. She must be pretty down on herself. The one time in her life she tried to make money by keeping her mouth shut, and she just couldn't do it. Sad. And old Andy won't be able to live down that pathetic interview even if he is able to stay in journalism as long as Dan Rather.

    -- Posted by fair share on Wed, Mar 28, 2018, at 9:21 PM
  • I have to admit, the anti Trump forces are not letting up. Makes me even happier that they did not win the elction. They REALLY needed some shaking up.

    LBR since you love to comment on the person you do not hate, what are your thoughts on being the first US President to get the Korean dictatorship to at least offer to talk to him?

    And what about the trade war with China? What are your thoughts about that?

    -- Posted by stevemills on Wed, Mar 28, 2018, at 9:35 PM
  • All Trump has to do is admit he had sex with the ***** because now his wife and friends and everyone in the world know it. So he had sex with a paid for Porno star that if I don't miss my guess, lol, she does all her porno sex for money.

    So... What is her problem? She got paid for sex, then got extra money to keep quite about it. How much money does she need for sex? She didn't look that exciting to me!

    The thing is, trump supposedly had sex with this ***** 10 years ago. That means, Trump wasn't the POTUS at that time. He was a private citizen in Hot and Erotic pursuit of Happiness, an Unalienable right. This act had nothing to do with voters or "TAX PAYERS"! This all smells like a Hillery Clinton/Democratic Scheme to bring Trump down. It isn't an impeachable event. Chances are thou, it will be a Favorite Porno Video in the Future!

    I imagine lbr has already ordered her copy! She has kept up with all of Trumps Sexcapades. I remember when lbr spoke of Trumps wife as a woman worse than Stormy the *****. But then she speaks of Trump as the only person in this sexcapade. Put the blame on the slut where it belongs.

    -- Posted by sui on Wed, Mar 28, 2018, at 9:48 PM
  • LBR,

    Can you cite a source where Trump himself denies an affair with Stormy?

    I'm talking the words coming out of his mouth, like we saw with Bill Clinton.

    I'm betting you can't, because idiot democrats got played again.

    -- Posted by quietmike on Thu, Mar 29, 2018, at 10:49 AM
  • Dumpty is afraid to say anything because he do not know what she has on him.The WH said he denied it.If she is a slut what does that make him since he was the married one?She looked good enough to have unprotected sex with.She look just like all the other accusers except the one brunette.If he paid her to keep her mouth shut so as to not influence the election days before the election that is illegal.Bill was not president during Juanita Brodrick era either but Dumpty paraded her in front of Hillary during a debate.He called her weak for not leaving Bill,does he think Melania should do the same.I am sure this is not the only one he paid.He would not be able to sue her for breach of contract unless there was a relationship.This is his type,so was Melania who posed for porn photos.No sui I do not want to see a copy of an orange blob naked getting spanked or whatever.

    The Koreans see an idiot and they know if they just flatter Dumpty he will say anything,it is a trap.

    I think the trade war with China will backfire in our face.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Thu, Mar 29, 2018, at 6:45 PM
  • But you keep up with all of the Trump family outings and personal lives. You don't miss nothing, or at least that is what you want us to believe. You have no proof of anything, only what the Demos have told you.

    An orange blob naked getting spanked? I do believe you have already played it in your mind.

    -- Posted by sui on Thu, Mar 29, 2018, at 9:37 PM
  • Faux conservative Laura Ingraham cooked her own goose when she bashed a 17 year old survivor of a school shooting less than a month ago.Her lame apology did not work,he managed to get all her sponsors to drop her.Ha Ha.LOLThat might just cure the bully.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Fri, Mar 30, 2018, at 12:55 PM
  • David Hogg: I'm not a kid. I'm smart and can make good decisions, and can attack whoever I want. F-you!

    Also Hogg: I'm just a kid. It's not okay for people like Laura Ingraham to attack me. I do not accept her apology.

    Is anyone really surprised that a vile, whiny, hypocritical beta male would be the new symbol of the democrat party?

    -- Posted by quietmike on Fri, Mar 30, 2018, at 6:14 PM
  • I wouldn't be a bit surprised if he comes out being confused about his identity. Looks and acts pretty effeminate. Which is why when he holds his fist up in the air trying to look powerful, he looks more like an adolescent girl doing the Hitler salute.

    -- Posted by fair share on Fri, Mar 30, 2018, at 7:50 PM
  • I have not listened to his colorful diatribe but I heard a 17 year old girl trying to politely say it was nasty.

    Guess he has learned something in school and hope his parents are proud of his eloquence. 🙀 :-o

    -- Posted by stevemills on Fri, Mar 30, 2018, at 8:51 PM
  • From what I see and hear out of the Democrats, I think he is probably their best choice so far. At least he claims to be smart, lol.

    -- Posted by sui on Sat, Mar 31, 2018, at 12:19 AM
  • Well, at least he is as smart as the rest of them. 🤔

    -- Posted by fair share on Sat, Mar 31, 2018, at 7:12 AM
  • David Hogg tells everyone himself that he is "not a kid" and can attack whoever he wants to.

    Then the next moment he tells everyone "I'm Just a Kid, it's not okay for people like L I to attack me".

    A true Democrats logic! The school has taught him how to think like a real Democrat very well. Either he is confused or a liar.

    He needs to be watched. He could be another school shooter in the makings with his way of thinking that "he can attack people" but "it's not okay for people to attack him.

    If he doesn't become a school shooter, he'll make a great democrat.

    -- Posted by sui on Sat, Mar 31, 2018, at 11:12 PM
  • Speaking of Shooting, I saw where the Isis Cockroaches have regrouped and come back in north Iraq and killing people all over again.

    The US Lead Coalition only politely let the last Isis Killers to leave their towns to go on to take over other towns and do what they do best, Kill innocent people.

    When you don't kill the cockroaches and their families, that's what happens.

    Funny how we didn't hear much about Isis when Trump took over. It was mostly the Isis is dead except for 1,000 of them.

    Now they are back and killing.

    Trump is only concerned with Isis in Syria? Now he wants out because we don't belong there. I said all along, that is Russia's country and Russia isn't going to let the U.S. take out his ruler. We are only helping the rebels get slaughtered by Russia. Oh, and blowing up hospitals also and the homes of the Syrian people who have to come here to live now. That's real smart on the part of The United States of America Congressmen/women who think Assad has to go. that's Russia's call. Russia is protecting its allies. That's more than I can say about the good ol USA today!

    I wished the fake news would stop saying the President is the most powerful man in the world! He isn't! Read what congress's powers are in Article I, Section 8, Clauses 1-17. You will find his powers as the president is very limited. He can sign or veto bills into law and make executive orders that government employees must obey. He has to have the consent of congress to do anything unless it is a time of war or a state of emergency! How does that make the President the most powerful man in the world?

    The Pope is suppose to be the most powerful man in the world because he gets his orders straight from God.

    If you believe that, I will sell you 1 square inch of land in Middle Tenn for $100.00.

    Noe the Pope just said that there is no Hell where people are tormented forever. He claims the bad people just vanish when they die.

    That is what the bible says! If you believe in Jesus you shall not perish but have every lasting life.

    The Bible does not say if you don't believe in Jesus you will have ever lasting life!

    I have to believe that you perish if you are a sinner because only the believers will not perish but have ever lasting life.

    The bible only says that the False Prophet and the Beast - the Anti-Christ will burn in the lake of fire forever.

    Looks to me like the most powerful man in the world (the POPE), is starting to realize what the Bible is really saying and hopefully will get the preachers to stop lying.

    -- Posted by sui on Sun, Apr 1, 2018, at 12:13 PM
  • David Hogg is a pretty smart kid,he out foxed Ingraham.Sponsors are still pulling away from her.Maybe her "planned Vacation" will be like O`Reilly's and never come back.Republicons keep on bashing these survivors and showing your true self.Her apology only came after she lost sponsors and it was as she said "Holy Week".Which means nothing to someone who bashed a kid because he did not get accepted into some college.With a 4.1 GPA I am sure he will have no problem getting into college.Ted Nugent even said "they have no souls".This from someone who said he like his women 14 and under and crapped his pants over and over to avoid the draft.Jesus said what you do to a child you do to him.These kids have seen more bloodshed and horror than any of us have seen.These kids have experienced what AR-15's will do they are not just popping off their mouths like ones mentioned above and others.I will bet if people bashing them go through what they did ,they will change their minds.

    Some of these kids will be voting this November,remember that.They are not dumb,I bet they know who the president of Puerto Rico is.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Sun, Apr 1, 2018, at 3:29 PM
  • Jesus said what you do to a child you do to him.

    ---Posted by lets be real

    Bet he's hated being aborted 56 million times.

    -- Posted by quietmike on Sun, Apr 1, 2018, at 8:34 PM
  • Unreal, you should be proud of yourself for talking about Jesus being raped. Extra points for doing it on Easter!

    As far as people badmouthing little pig boy, I suspect most caught in his situation (if in fact he did survive the shooting) would have shot back and neutralized the threat.

    -- Posted by fair share on Sun, Apr 1, 2018, at 11:09 PM
  • Fair you and republicons keep on bashing these kids,it will really be a big benefit to democrats this fall.

    I bet you believe Faux that he is 22 and not a student or that Sandy Hook never happened.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Mon, Apr 2, 2018, at 11:54 AM
  • LBR,

    Tell the DNC to keep beating the gun control drum.

    Worked really well for them in the 94 midterms.

    -- Posted by quietmike on Mon, Apr 2, 2018, at 12:04 PM
  • Recent news reports say Omar Mateen, the Pulse nightclub shooter, originally planned to shoot up Disney Springs, but changed his mind when he saw the armed security there.

    https://m.orlandoweekly.com/Blogs/archives/2018/03/28/pulse-shooter-planned-to-h...

    Compelling evidence, but not enough to overcome the liberal desire to avoid responsibility.

    -- Posted by quietmike on Mon, Apr 2, 2018, at 12:11 PM
  • Amazing how the threat of being killed makes the ne'er-do-wells rethink things. The have more common sense than the dims.

    -- Posted by fair share on Mon, Apr 2, 2018, at 12:57 PM
  • Oh, but that's just wild west nonsensical thinking.

    -- Posted by quietmike on Mon, Apr 2, 2018, at 5:24 PM
  • As proof that you don't need a gun to injure someone, look at what that little kid did to America! He convinced the American businesses to stop advertising on the Ingram show, causing her to lose her job. I pray all the companies that pulled their ads lose all their business customers. Those were all democrat advertisers because they don't know that you have to advertise to make money.

    It doesn't really matter because all those kids are going to be living under communist dictatorship. You know, the government taking care of them except without the border walls to keep out the central Americans who are coming for your jobs. All you taxpayers will have to provide every little need they have. That ought to take a lot of food off your table and drain your bank accounts because the government can't afford it, IT IS BANKRUPT! Looks like congress is willing to shell out another Trillion dollars to help the aliens and take it out of your pocket.

    It would be so much easier for congress to just pass some immigration bills and let Trump sign them into law then Execute them!

    -- Posted by sui on Mon, Apr 2, 2018, at 11:04 PM
  • Why is Dumpty so quite on the stock market and no tweets?

    I see one Mueller indicted is being sentenced,and over "fake" news,and a "witch hunt" as Dumpty says ,can you imagine that.

    Is there anyone in the WH that is not using taxpayer money for personal use,now Pruitt EPA secretary is under investigation.Dumpty said he'" got his back" because he is deregulating all the rules that keep us safe and padding his friends pockets.

    I doubt all those companies dropping Ingraham will lose business because the majority is behind those kids.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Tue, Apr 3, 2018, at 12:37 PM
  • If Trump had tweeted on the stock market instead of remaining "quite" [sic], would idiotic libs say it was obama's stock market or Trump's?

    https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/grammar/british-grammar/quiet-or-quite

    -- Posted by quietmike on Tue, Apr 3, 2018, at 8:28 PM
  • Doesn't matter what Trump does or doesn't do. Unreal will b*tch about it either way. I guess everyone needs a hobby.

    -- Posted by fair share on Tue, Apr 3, 2018, at 8:49 PM
  • An NRA member shot up the youtube headquarters in California yesterday, ignoring both state laws and youtube's gun free zone signs.

    No, sorry, it wasn't a NRA member, it was Iranian vegan snowflake, Nasim Aghdam.

    No wonder CNN got back to Stormy Daniels and Robert Mueller post haste.

    -- Posted by quietmike on Wed, Apr 4, 2018, at 3:20 AM
  • You mean a FEMALE shot up a bunch of people in a GUN FREE ZONE, in a HEAVILY REGULATED STATE, WITHOUT using an AR15 and the media has already swept it under the rug?

    Hmm, maybe it's more about the narrative/agenda, than the gun.

    Maybe we should protest because the victims were prohibited from arming/defending themselves. Or, better yet, sue the state and YouTube for infringing upon the rights of American citizens and failing to provide adequate protection upon instituting said infringement.

    -- Posted by Liveforlight on Wed, Apr 4, 2018, at 8:32 PM
  • A bombing of a Sam's club in Ontario California. Suspect (hispanic male) in custody with more bomb making supplies found at his home.

    Will CNN cover this with bated breath, or will it be like the youtube shooting, not fitting the narrative?

    -- Posted by quietmike on Thu, Apr 5, 2018, at 9:40 PM
  • I forget quite these people are not white males ,no way they can be mentally ill huh.

    This woman would probably killed more if not for California laws which makes it hard to get an assault weapon.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Thu, Apr 5, 2018, at 10:31 PM
  • Might not have wounded any if the victims had been packing.

    -- Posted by fair share on Thu, Apr 5, 2018, at 11:15 PM
  • I forget quite these people are not white males ,no way they can be mentally ill huh.

    This woman would probably killed more if not for California laws which makes it hard to get an assault weapon.óposted by lets be real

    -----

    Well she was a SJW liberal, so her mental illness is a given.

    Speaking mentally ill liberals and California laws, how hard is it to get a bomb in Cali?

    -- Posted by quietmike on Fri, Apr 6, 2018, at 12:05 AM
  • LBR, like most liberals having swallowed the Democrat rhetoric hook, line and sinker, completely misses the point.

    Sure, ALL the shooters have mental illness. No one in their right mind starts killing just for the sake of killing.

    The point is we are being manipulated by a biased media towards an agenda. It is all about CONTROL. You want to be free? THEN STOPPING GIVING AWAY CONTROL. Every time a right is restricted we loose control.

    WE are not as divided as the race baiters want us to be.

    WE are the majority, and it has nothing to do with race, or sex, or any other division that they want to apply.

    Here is a very good speech about gun control.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVWNZZEuJ9k

    -- Posted by Liveforlight on Fri, Apr 6, 2018, at 5:53 AM
  • Why does Dumpty keep lying about Amazon?Amazon pays the same delivery fees as all other companies and state tax in every state.Never saw a President try to stop an American from growing.He said Amazon needs to pay more for delivery but the Post Office states they set the fee and is profitting from them since people don't send letters like they use to.

    Crickets today on the stock market and low job rates.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Fri, Apr 6, 2018, at 2:30 PM
  • Low job rates?? How's the weather in that alternate universe you live in?

    Full employment is an unemployment rate under 5%, it's currently 4.1%.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2018/04/06/economists-expect-steady-...

    -- Posted by quietmike on Fri, Apr 6, 2018, at 3:49 PM
  • I was under the understanding that he was referring to income tax, not sales tax. And by the way, sales tax is paid by the buyer not Amazon. They are just collecting and forwarding.

    -- Posted by stevemills on Fri, Apr 6, 2018, at 5:12 PM
  • -- Posted by lets be real on Sun, Apr 8, 2018, at 4:56 PM
  • In more "we told you so" news, after 100 years of strict gun control laws, London's murder rate has surpassed that of NYC.

    In response London's mayor has implemented a city wide ban on knives, saying "there's no reason for anyone to carry a knife". He is also re-implementing police stop and frisks, a practice he earlier derided as racist and islamophobic.

    -- Posted by quietmike on Mon, Apr 9, 2018, at 4:38 AM
  • He is racist and Western Europeanphobic since he thinks he can kill us if we won't kiss the floor and hike our behinds in the air while facing Mecca 5 times a day.

    -- Posted by fair share on Mon, Apr 9, 2018, at 5:41 PM
  • Dumpty was foaming at the mouth today when learning about his lawyer Cohen's office and residence raided by the FBI and the state of NY.He said he would "take a bullet" for Dumpty.Let see if he goes to jail for him.Investigated for bank fraud,campaign finance fraud etc.Dumpty calling it an attack on our country is laughable.Never in my lifetime have I seen so many investigations and indictments in the WH.This scandal has moved another giant step closer to the oval office.Anyone who still believe that all the presidents men are corrupt and he knows nothing has their head in the sand.Everywhere you look is the stench of corruption.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Mon, Apr 9, 2018, at 10:36 PM
  • Since some have a short and selective memoery, let's have a look back.

    Rod Blagojevich

    Tony Rezko

    Bill Ayers

    Courtney Dupree

    Willie Shepard

    Jon Corzine

    Shervin Neman

    Abake Assongba

    Alberto Cardona

    Carlos Cardona

    George Kaiser

    Steve Westly

    Steve Spinner

    and dozens more at ACORN.

    Yeah, odumbo was a saint.

    -- Posted by quietmike on Tue, Apr 10, 2018, at 6:18 AM
  • And the Black Panthers patrolling the entrance to the the voting areas in Philly.

    Does anyone know what the libs that still think hillary should be walking around free have their heads stuck up?

    -- Posted by fair share on Tue, Apr 10, 2018, at 12:51 PM
  • LBR (hope you don't mind me shortening you name) I agree that there are a huge amount of investigations swirling around the Trump administration. Do you think it was similar with Obama?

    -- Posted by stevemills on Wed, Apr 11, 2018, at 12:16 PM
  • Stevemills no comparison to Obama.How many was indicted under Obama,none? How many porn stars were paid off under Obama,none?How many sexual harassment cases was Obama involved in,none? When was Obama under investigation,none?Dumptys own words"Anyone under investigation has no business being president".He has more to worry about now than Mueller,there is now the US Attorney Office,NY State Attorneys office and Manhattan District Attorney.And most of these are republicans.

    Dumpty is having so much trouble with his staff because he brought in crooks and liars just like the kind of business partners he has attracted all his life.

    Even if he fires Rosenstein(a republican he appointed) and Mueller(a republican)this will not end.But he sits with arms folded like a child as if someone has taken his candy and blame democrats.Now he is trying to make his sheep believe that any investigation of him is "an attack on America".He really believes he is above the law and is in for a rude awakening.

    So instead of republicans in the house standing up to him 59 of them are jumping ship and not running for re-election.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Wed, Apr 11, 2018, at 9:57 PM
  • That is what I remember but it seems to me there was a cry from the Democrats that the Republicans were Ďfit to be tiedí that Obama had been elected and that they (racist Republicans) were making it hard on him because he was of mixed race.

    Now consider all the hysteria and constant attack on Trump by the ĎLeftí and all the trouble Obama was supposed to be getting pales in comparison. While I believe Trump often asks for this criticism, the attacks reinforce my belief that the Clinton machine was too entrenched through the fabric of government and the press. It needed to be interrupted.

    -- Posted by stevemills on Thu, Apr 12, 2018, at 6:29 AM
  • Which other leaders were never investigated or indicted?

    Mao, Stalin, Lenin, Pol Pot, Hitler, etc.

    The more corrupt the leader, the more control he wields.

    There were certainly enough issues under obama that should have resulted in indictments, but his justice department was just as dirty as he was.

    -- Posted by quietmike on Thu, Apr 12, 2018, at 6:49 AM
  • So quitemike if Dumpty's republican justice department takes him down will you callthem dirty.You are right about the more corrupt the leader,the more control he wields because no other president tried to control people by paying thousands of hush money like Dumpty.Now the doorman at his hotel said he was paid $30,000 to shut up about what he witnessed.Putin poisons his adversaries and Dumpty pays his off.The judge that signed the Cohen warrant was appointed by Dumpty.

    So should have or could have been indicted is not going to get it.When I hear republicans say Dumpty should fire Mueller or Roesnstein to protect Dumpty I ask from what.If he is innocent why is he worried.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Thu, Apr 12, 2018, at 7:05 PM
  • https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/13/politics/trump-lawyer-michael-cohen-settlement/in...

    This is proof that the conservative,family values,anti abortion republicons are hypocrites.Here we have another Playboy model paid off $1.6 million hush money for Broidy,top Gop fundraiser, paid for an abortion.In other words it is okay if kept hidden unless it is a democrat.Cohen is under criminal investigation by southern district of NY and everything will come out.

    Can't wait to read Comeys book,already on best seller list.Put Comey's reputation up againt Dumpty's who has lied on TV over 2,000 in a year and see who comes out on top.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Fri, Apr 13, 2018, at 2:15 PM
  • If he is innocent why is he worried.

    -- Posted by lets be real

    ---

    From the same liberal who complained about investigations into Benghazi, emails, and I'm sure whitewater, and myriad sexual assaults of the clintons?

    -- Posted by quietmike on Sat, Apr 14, 2018, at 8:35 PM
  • Judge rejects Dumptys bid to block access to Cohen material by the DOJ.Waiting for Dumptys tweets bashing the judge,a Reagan appointee.His fixer,Cohen,also outed his third client Shame Hannity.God is in control everything is falling into place and being revealed.When Dumpty throws him under the bus ,and he will, he will sing unless Dumty promised him a pardon which is obstruction of justice.Dumptys own advisors think The Cohen investigation is a greater threat than the Mueller probe.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Mon, Apr 16, 2018, at 10:28 PM
  • No comment on Comey's interview?

    Oh yeah, just like the russian collusion, it turned out to be a big flop.

    When even Piers Morgan can call it out for a big nothingburger, you know it's bad.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5621733/PIERS-MORGAN-No-wonder-Trump-fir......

    -- Posted by quietmike on Tue, Apr 17, 2018, at 8:01 AM
  • Another set back for Dumpty,Judge denies his request to review Cohen material seized by the FBI,thanks judge.

    I liked Comey's interview his book will be a best seller.He is more believable than the idiot in the WH.He is right about Dumpty being unfit to serve as president. Dumpty wants everyone jailed for criticizing him and America is in big trouble if they think this is normal.There are some people he can not buy and he is furious.Even his advisor Shame Hannity is trying to distance himself from his own lawyer.I am wondering who he helped Hannity pay off.Dumpty is going to find out he is not above the law and can not influence judges and what ever he says goes.

    Dumpty administration just handed a loss on immigration,Justice Gorsuch joins Supreme Court Liberals to strike down Deportation Law.There is going to be a light at the end of this tunnel.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Tue, Apr 17, 2018, at 4:01 PM
  • The judge who officiated George Soros' wedding? Big shocker.

    -- Posted by quietmike on Tue, Apr 17, 2018, at 5:25 PM
  • "There is going to be a light at the end of this tunnel.

    Posted by unreal

    Yet I woke up this morning, the sun still came up, and Trump is still my President. Yours too.

    -- Posted by fair share on Wed, Apr 18, 2018, at 1:41 PM
  • 455 days since Hillary wasn't sworn in as president.

    -- Posted by quietmike on Thu, Apr 19, 2018, at 3:10 AM
  • So Dumpty is delaying sanctions on Russia because he is uncomfortable with them.WHY.This after his own National Security team wants them on materials Russia provides to Asshad to produce chemicals used in his chemical weapons attack.Wont be long before we will be saying former Ambassador Nikki Haley.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Thu, Apr 19, 2018, at 11:56 AM
  • I wonder if comey and mccabe will share a cell? Probably not. The warden wouldn't want them b!tch slapping each other.

    In breaking news: Trump is still our President. And thankfully, hillary still isn't.

    -- Posted by fair share on Fri, Apr 20, 2018, at 6:21 AM
  • The gnat-like attention span of some liberals is pathetic and speaks to their intellect.

    For them it's an ever changing target, but each new one brings them a certainty that "this will really be the one".

    First russian collusion, then harassment lawsuits, then a porn star, too many golf trips, etc. etc.

    All the while the economy is growing, ISIS is being beaten, North Korea is saying they'll get rid of their nukes and end the Korean war. Food stamp use is down substantially. Unemployment is down. People are getting raises and bonuses.

    Now the dems are campaigning on raising taxes.....

    Good luck with that.

    -- Posted by quietmike on Fri, Apr 20, 2018, at 12:43 PM
  • The DNC, after rigging the primary against Bernie, after stealing the debate questions for Hillary, after laundering 84 million in campaign donations, filed a lawsuit against Russia, Trump, and Wikileaks claiming the most unelectable hag in history lost due to interference.

    I guess since the Mueller investigation is going nowhere dems need a new way to keep the idiots energized and inflamed.

    -- Posted by quietmike on Fri, Apr 20, 2018, at 4:21 PM
  • I have to admit that when I heard that my head could not help but go side to side. How does one file a lawsuit against Russia?

    Second thought was that I had seriously underestimated how bad a loser they were going to be but then a nee perspective came into focus.

    Was it really the DNC or is it someone else who controlled the DNC and manipulated the strings on the Clintons. I may have been giving the Clintons too much credit.

    Either way, I am still happy the control strings were severed, at least for a while. Still wish it had been someone else but Mr. Trump but maybe the Republicans were being pulled as well.

    I have thought at times that the two parties were not all that different and could be similar to when a company creates their own competition. It LOOKS like they are competing but actually controlled by the same entity.

    How is that for a conspiracy theory. :-)

    -- Posted by stevemills on Fri, Apr 20, 2018, at 6:25 PM
  • I don't think that is a "theory" at all Steve, I think it is reality. It is the only thing that makes sense! There may not be a single entity pulling the strings just a "collusion of corruption" (just coined that one myself) on both sides, like 2 bookies hedging their bets.

    On the gun control issue:

    I ran across the below article about Cliven Bundy. He was acquitted and the government was found to be unethical and withholding evidence. Imagine that!

    The citizens turned out in force with the dreaded AR15 rifles and stopped the government seizures. Bundy at least got his day in court. Bundy has now been exonerated. Just one example of why citizens should be well armed.

    Then, there is this. "The pin is mightier than the sword."

    Since the pin is the mightier than even the AR15, how long after the AR is outlawed, before the freedom of speech is regulated? Then, the government's side of the story, such as the Bundy case, is the only side to be heard.

    The corruption in government runs deep! Those who would give more power to the corrupt in order to overcome corruption, are fools!

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2018/01/05/bundy-fbi-misconduct-another-e...

    -- Posted by Liveforlight on Fri, Apr 20, 2018, at 8:39 PM
  • Liveforlight,

    To see the future under "progressives" look to California.

    They already have some of the strictest gun laws in the country.

    Today, they voted to ban books.

    No matters how outrageous the predictions you make regarding liberals, chances are that somewhere, some of them are already advocating for it.

    -- Posted by quietmike on Fri, Apr 20, 2018, at 10:50 PM
  • Quietmike, thanks for bringing the California ban to our attention. That could start all kinds of dangerous trends in censorship.

    -- Posted by stevemills on Sat, Apr 21, 2018, at 7:33 AM
  • Do the dems really think they can find a courthouse big enough to fit Russia into? 😁😁

    -- Posted by fair share on Sat, Apr 21, 2018, at 9:29 AM
  • Well then, there you have it. The pen/book is far to dangerous for California residents to possess.

    A book that might change someone's mind about sexual orientation will be banned. What about books that change someone's ethics/principles. Surely, that should be banned as well.

    Liberalism at its finest!

    -- Posted by Liveforlight on Sat, Apr 21, 2018, at 12:54 PM
  • Except for the ones espousing liberal dogma. And before long, they will be required reading.

    -- Posted by fair share on Sat, Apr 21, 2018, at 1:36 PM
  • It is worth noting that the ACLU defended NAMBLA in a lawsuit where an underage boy was kidnapped, raped, and killed, citing free speech, but I'm betting the american communist legal union remains silent about the California ban.

    -- Posted by quietmike on Sat, Apr 21, 2018, at 2:30 PM
  • Well, there was another shooting that fits the gun control narrative today. So, It is bound to be on the news for a long time.

    The narrative should be about the failure of enforcement of existing laws that would have prevented this from happening. But, it won't be.

    -- Posted by Liveforlight on Sun, Apr 22, 2018, at 10:05 AM
  • And no doubt they will yap about the NRA. But this gut couldn't have been a member, at least not in good standing. NRA is all about A2 and gun safety. I don't recall this specifically mentioned in their safety materials, but anyone with common sense, and even most retards, knows it ain't safe to shoot a gun nekkid. Or walk into a Waffle House for that matter.

    -- Posted by fair share on Sun, Apr 22, 2018, at 1:31 PM
  • Here is a link for that which quietmike refers: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/aponline/20000831/aponline171914_000.htm

    The fact that he found a pair of pants so soon after the shooting makes me think the nakedness is part of a plan to claim insanity, but first apprehend.

    Then, I wonder if it is time to re-evaluate the insanity plea.

    -- Posted by stevemills on Sun, Apr 22, 2018, at 2:07 PM
  • I have to admit that when I heard that my head could not help but go side to side. How does one file a lawsuit against Russia?

    Second thought was that I had seriously underestimated how bad a loser they were going to be but then a nee perspective came into focus.

    Was it really the DNC or is it someone else who controlled the DNC and manipulated the strings on the Clintons. I may have been giving the Clintons too much credit.

    Either way, I am still happy the control strings were severed, at least for a while. Still wish it had been someone else but Mr. Trump but maybe the Republicans were being pulled as well.

    I have thought at times that the two parties were not all that different and could be similar to when a company creates their own competition. It LOOKS like they are competing but actually controlled by the same entity.

    How is that for a conspiracy theory. :-)

    -- Posted by stevemills on Mon, Apr 23, 2018, at 9:31 PM
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