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Steve Mills

Where will this go? Post your comment about events or whatever.

Posted Friday, January 25, 2019, at 8:03 AM
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    God created man and woman. Leftists created the hundreds of other genders that don't exist.

    -- Posted by fair share on Fri, Jan 25, 2019, at 8:52 AM
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    "until they decide for themselves what they are,"

    Posted by Steve

    They are what they are. Of course, in the land of the free, they are free to decide to pretend to be whatever they want. Also in the land of the free, I am free to choose not to participate in their silliness.

    -- Posted by fair share on Fri, Jan 25, 2019, at 10:48 AM
  • I'm sure you could go to Moccasin Bend and find a 50 y.o. man who thinks he's really queen Elizabeth.

    We could give him radical surgery to make him look the part, and pass laws requiring everyone to refer to him as "your majesty", and no doubt that would make him feeeeel better, but he still wouldn't be the queen.

    Same with trans people.

    If you look in your underwear, see twig and berries, and still think you're a girl, you are mentally ill.

    -- Posted by quietmike on Fri, Jan 25, 2019, at 12:29 PM
  • quietmike....I looked and saw a branch and pears...what am I to think?

    -- Posted by Blessed Assurance on Fri, Jan 25, 2019, at 5:08 PM
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    You need a package of Ds, not AAs?

    -- Posted by fair share on Fri, Jan 25, 2019, at 6:20 PM
  • BA,

    Either lucky genetics or you need some penicillin.

    -- Posted by quietmike on Fri, Jan 25, 2019, at 10:29 PM
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    It's simple, if you have a male organ you use the male bathroom (male or female or both).

    Ruth Bader Gingsburg is the woman who started all this changing of names (Nouns and Pronouns). She is dead now (explain later) so we can now continue on like true Americans who know the difference between a man and a woman. The people who don't know what they want to be need to talk to God. People who are born with both organs should be left alone to decide for themselves which they want to be, after they have matured somewhat and able to decide. The way we think as children changes when we get older. Until then they go to the men's room and use a stall.

    If they keep the ***** they continue to go to the men's room. If they lose it, they go to the lady's room. In some cases these people may use a unisex bathroom if available. Very simple, isn't it?

    However, if the Artificial Intelligence doesn't know the difference between a ***** and a dick, how will the democrats know the difference?

    -- Posted by sui on Sat, Jan 26, 2019, at 11:54 AM
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    Don't they already claim not to know the difference? What gives me a chuckle is they are so big on replacing human intelligence with AI, computers, and the digital age yet can't see that both are binary!

    RBG has been dead to me for a while. Tho still alive, she will be laying down her life any minute. Just a matter of odds. Too bad she couldn't have done it 2 years ago, for the good of her country.

    Anyone who allows or forces a kid to crossdress or alter their gender should be thrown in jail for child neglect/abuse.

    -- Posted by fair share on Sat, Jan 26, 2019, at 12:36 PM
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    fair share,

    If RBG had died 2 years ago Obama would have gotten another Democrat on the SCOTUS and made it impossible for the Republicans to undo the destruction Obama done to our country. Obama was a Muslim Traitor married to a man of his own sex. All this time we were told Muslims hated Homosexuals. Didn't apply to Obama.

    -- Posted by sui on Sat, Jan 26, 2019, at 1:06 PM
  • Fair Share you last comment about being charged with child abuse is RIGHT ON target. Purposely confusing a child because the parents or adults around them are confused is criminal.

    I am curious how adopted/surrogate children of same sex couples are protect from this, or are they?

    I truly have no personal hang ups with people who are truly homosexual and I know a few who would make excellent parents but, how is that approached from an adoption viewpoint?

    -- Posted by stevemills on Sat, Jan 26, 2019, at 1:44 PM
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    All this sex stuff will have to be straightened out by Donald Trump before he steps down. Our birth certificate makes each of us a commodity on the Stock Market. That means we are all slaves to the deep state. Does a man bring more money on the stock market or a woman? Wouldn't that be Racist, womanizing or just a plain Neanderthal/Homosapien gone wild?

    -- Posted by sui on Sat, Jan 26, 2019, at 3:47 PM
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    Come on, sui! Have you thought about trying some Narcan? Romazicon? Probably wouldn't help, but couldn't hurt. Trump nominated Gorsuch end of January 2017. How long has he been on the bench? Trump could have nominated another just after Gorsuch.

    Steve, I think once the system gives a kid to a "family", whether messed up in the head or not, they are pretty much on their own. Who people choose to have sex with is their business, not mine. But I find it sad the system puts kids into situations where they have no normal role models.

    -- Posted by fair share on Sat, Jan 26, 2019, at 9:43 PM
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    fair share,

    Trump Did. Kavanagh, remember? Now the SCOTUS is full and no one can be appointed until someone leaves. RBG is the next to go then Trump will put in a woman Justice very soon now.

    I have some very pleasant and Hot news to reveal this weekend if I have the time.

    Trump had to leave the Country for a few days in order to accomplish what he plans to do. It was the Law! That was when Trump and the first Lady went to Iraq to visit the troops.

    The Deep state doesn't see it coming, yet they know all about it and can't do anything about it. JFK Jr explained it. How can this be possible? Take a red pill, because I am going to take you deeper into the Rabbit Hole TODAY!

    -- Posted by sui on Sun, Jan 27, 2019, at 1:33 AM
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    Does everyone have their going down the Rabbit Hole clothes on?

    This is going to get exciting and Crazy at the same time.

    I have to try to take you down slowly. After some research I found out "YOU CAN NOT STAND THE TRUTH". Not all of it at this time anyway, so I will have take you down a little at a time.

    Thousands have been arrested ad had their Trials. They have been sentenced for their crimes. What they received is yet to be known. We will be told later.

    AT THE SAME TIME Trump is busy shutting down the Central Banks, Federal Reserve and IMF which will be known as the -


    1. Cancels all credit card, mortgage, and other bank debt due to illegal banking and government activities. Many refer to this as a "jubilee" or complete forgivenass of debt.

    2. Abolishes income tax.

    3. Abolishes the IRS, with employees of the IRS will be transferred into the US Treasury national tax area.

    4. Creates a 17% flat rate non-essential new items only tax revenue for the government.

    In Other words, food and medicine will not be taxed; nor will used items such as old homes.

    5. Increases benefits to senior citizens.

    6. Returns Constitutional Law to all courts and legal matters.

    7. Reinstates the origibal Title of Nobility amendment.

    8. Establishes new Presidential and Congressional elections within 120 days of GESARA's announcement. The interim government will cancel all National Emergencies and return us back to constitutional law.

    9. Monitors elections and prevents illegal election activities of special interest groups.

    10. Creates a new US Treasury rainbow currency backed by gold, silver and platinum precious metals, ending the bankruptcy of the United States initiated by Franklin Roosevelt in 1933.

    11. Forbids the sale of American birth certificate records as chattel property bonds by the US Department of Transportation.

    12. Initiates new US Treasury Bank System in alignment with Constitutional Law.

    13. Eliminates the Federal Reserve System. During the transition period the Federal Reserve will be allowed to operate side by side of the US Treasury for one year in order to remove a;; Federal Reserve notes from the money supply.

    14. Restores Financial privacy.

    15. Retrains all judges and attorneys in Constitutional Law.

    16. Ceases all aggressive, U.S. government military actions worldwide.

    17. Establishes peace througout the world.

    18. Releases unprecedented prosperity with enormous sums of money for humanitarian purposes.

    19. Enables the release of over 6,000 patents of suppressed technologies that are being withheld from the public under guise of national security, including free energy devices, anti-gravity, and sonic healing machines.

    20. Eliminates all current and future nuclear powered weaponry on planet earth.

    WHAT have I been Telling everyone?

    This is as far as I am going to take you today. Read it and think about what it means. This is what Your "Racist", "Hate Monger", "Womanizer who is taking away your Rights" President is doing for everyone of you UNGREATFUL A** Holes, no matter who or what you are.

    These 20 items are listed in the Laws that I have never heard of before, and gives Trump the Authority to do it. In order to accomplish this the law requires him to leave the country for a couple days. That is why Trump and the First Lady went to Iraq.

    After he does it and announces that he is doing it we will be forced to re-elect a NEW President and all NEW Congress men/women/senators within 120 days. That is in this law he is using. Trump must step down after the announcement within a reasonable time to a new President that is elected by the people.

    Think about it!

    No credit Card Debt or Loan payments or Mortgages.

    No more Taxes except a Sales tax on new items, but not Food and Medicine. An increase in benefits to senior citizens. Returns Constitutional Law to all courts and legal matters- (everyone will have to learn Common Law that applies to a Sovereign man/woman) because they can't use defacto law - (Uniform Commercial Code) any more in state courts. Voter IDs. Our Money will be backed by Gold and Silver again. (This will cause a recession during this Currency Reset - Get Prepared). We will no longer be a number on the Stock Market and have a strawman/woman who is a corporation, and I believe there won't even be a stock market any more. Exchange all Federal Reserve Notes for real money backed Gold and Silver. All Judges and attorneys will have to learn

    Constitutional Law which will protect the Sovereign people, like myself. Establishes peace throughout the world.and unbelievable - Enables the release of over 6,000 patents of suppressed technologies that are being withheld from the public under guise of national security, including free energy devices, anti-gravity, and sonic healing machines.

    This takes you down the Rabbit hole, but not deep yet. It goes much Deeper, but you aren't ready for that yet.

    This should excite everyone and change your thoughts on Donald Trump your President.

    We will go much deeper another day, but not TODAY.

    Enjoy your NEW DAY!

    -- Posted by sui on Sun, Jan 27, 2019, at 3:11 PM
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    "10. Creates a new US Treasury rainbow currency backed by gold, silver and platinum precious metals, ending the bankruptcy of the United States initiated by Franklin Roosevelt in 1933."

    I don't think Pence will let him print gay money. Could be wrong. Maybe the unicorn poo will taste like raspberry gelato.

    -- Posted by fair share on Sun, Jan 27, 2019, at 3:29 PM
  • sui,

    Why not just paste the link to your mumbo jumbo

    and be done with it?


    -- Posted by Blessed Assurance on Sun, Jan 27, 2019, at 4:50 PM
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    I don't think the President prints the money fair share, he doesn't work in the U.S. Bureau of Engraving and Printing.

    Pence is a Pedophilia and won't be needing any rainbow currency where he will be going unless Trump has flipped him. I haven't heard anything about what happens to his wife. She must be okay?

    -- Posted by sui on Sun, Jan 27, 2019, at 5:11 PM
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    How many people do you think will go there or understand anything about it.

    If You want to take the people down the Rabbit Hole, be my guest. Please explain to them what happens next? My job is done here! Explain to them why this isn't important and just how it won't effect their lives. I have other things to do now. Last warning: Stock up; Food, Water, Heat and CASH MONEY!

    Enjoy what's left of your weekend. Snows coming!

    -- Posted by sui on Sun, Jan 27, 2019, at 5:31 PM
  • How many people do you think will go there or understand anything about it? - posted by Sui

    Probably the same amount who take your insane ravings seriously... none.

    -- Posted by quietmike on Sun, Jan 27, 2019, at 6:17 PM
  • Last warning: Stock up; Food, Water, Heat and CASH MONEY!

    Posted by sui on Sun, Jan 27, 2019, at 5:31 PM

    Sui if you would copy and print your last few months postings on here and carry them with you on your next trip to the VA hospital and show them to your doctor I believe you will be directed to a nice comfortable room where you will not have to worry about stocking up on Food, Water, Heat and CASH MONEY.

    -- Posted by Blessed Assurance on Sun, Jan 27, 2019, at 7:50 PM
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    Bla, Thank you. That will really help me. Hope I can make it back home when it's over.

    -- Posted by sui on Sun, Jan 27, 2019, at 8:19 PM
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    Oh, no! BA, why in the world would you share all that secret information with the general population? Now all the lefties will see it and perhaps take evasive action. Oh, well.

    -- Posted by fair share on Sun, Jan 27, 2019, at 8:40 PM
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    fair share,

    I have always thought that you were an intelligent person. You don't even have the sense to ask questions about all the remarkable things I have described to you. Even YOU know about Agenda 21 and the 13th amendment - title of nobility or honor (violated by every congressman, etc.). You would rather make me out to be a fool or a crazy sovereign man than to ask a question. Even these laws explain we the people are the Sovereignty not the government.

    Not one person has the balls or Ovaries to ask anything about what has been done to us all these years. These things listed in the NESARA/GESARA Documents are centuries old conspiracies about what will be done to the Sovereign people who would stand up to the system.

    Now with Trump as the MFWBEC all these conspiracies are coming true, but used on the Deep State who created them.

    Oldbama signed into law the things that Trump can USE and has put Oldbama in GITMO and seized all his assets. Yes it's all coming true. You don't see it, so you don't believe it.

    If you took the time to read the things on the list that Trump is doing, you would know that all this is happening because of GOD. These are not evil things Trump is doing, but things that correct the illegal crimes the Deep State has used on every citizen and Sovereign in the United States of America.

    I did not need any more proof than that. Do you know of any other human being that could withstand the torment, teasing, Lies and threats from the Deep State and all of it's Democrats and even the Republicans? Nancy Pelosi herself was behind or in on the last Assassination attempt against Trump, yet Trump acts as if she did nothing. He doesn't interfere when someone is committing their crime. They feel like they can do anything and take chances, because they think no one is watching them. Trump knows it all.

    GOD Chose Trump to be the President for His purpose. We are watching it all play out before our very eyes, yet you people who are brain washed to believe like the Deep State and believe everyone else is crazy...? I can't believe how many people do not use their common sense.

    You have all chosen the Blue Pill and when you wake up, it will be over and nothing will change.

    When your grand children and great grand children ask you what happen in 2019-20, you will only be able to tell them they will have to goggle it, because you didn't know anything had happened, except another recession happened as they changed our Federal Reserve Note to money that is backed by Gold. (No, that will be impossible because Google will be shut down) Oh yeah, we didn't have to pay off our credit cards and loans. That is why we don't have to pay Taxes like we did before, and there are no more wars all over the world. There are no people starving to death like they did when I was your age.

    You idiots are missing it all. You will only be able to read about it AFTER it's over.

    I am one of the lucky ones. I get to live it. I get to see how it goes down and Know why. I get to Experience being in the greatest story in History and it's not even started good yet. The Rabbit Hole goes much DEEEEEPER!!

    Perhaps Bla will come back on and let you in on the surprise ending that I have not touched on yet!

    Well, the weekend is over now - Unless we get Snowed In, lol.

    -- Posted by sui on Sun, Jan 27, 2019, at 9:36 PM
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    Bla, I don't go to the VA no more than I just have to. They gave me an appointment with their Eye clinic in Murfs. They done a pressure test on my eyes by touching both of my eyeballs with an infected tool.

    I have gone back for 2 yrs now and all they say is my tear ducts are clogged. They weren't when I went to them the first time. If they are clogged - They clogged them. I personally think they infected them with something. I asked to see the original doctor who treated me the first time I went back with the problem. All they would tell me was she didn't work there any more. I let them know I knew why. She contaminated both of my eyes with something.

    Even a local Eye Doctor couldn't help, but cost me waaaaaaay too much for the eye drops and that was with a discount. The drops didn't help a bit.

    -- Posted by sui on Sun, Jan 27, 2019, at 10:12 PM
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    Sui, all my questions about the remarkable things you have described have been answered to my satisfaction. I am aware the UN wrote a 300 plus page book trying to micromanage their One World Government. I am also aware of A13 that abolished slavery. The original PROPOSED A13 that was never ratified never became an ammendment. But that doesn't stop the Thirteenthers from using it as part of the basis for their nonsense Sovereign Citizen BS.

    Sorry that you feel I'm trying to "make me out to be a fool or a crazy sovereign man". Not really trying. You're doing just fine all on your own.

    -- Posted by fair share on Sun, Jan 27, 2019, at 11:08 PM
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    Oh hey, don't apologize! It was my mistake. I thought I knew you better than that.

    Both 13th A's were ratified, but the first one was removed for the present 13th A. It was the 14th A that was never legally ratified because of the provisions of Section 4, there were 11 Southern States that refused to ratify the Amendment. It is a matter of record that the U. S. Military then arrested the legitimate legislators from those States and established what are now called "rump legislators" who voted in favor of the 14th Amendment.

    The 14th Amendment has nothing to do with the Sovereignty. It's sole purpose was to give the black slaves and the citizens of the U.S. Territories a U.S. Citizenship Making all of them subject to its jurisdiction and did not include the People who received their rights from GOD and who created the Government Corporations.

    The 14th Amendment Citizens are "federal citizens". Federal Citizens do not have unalienable rights, because they are "Persons" or "Corporations". They have Civil Rights.

    -- Posted by sui on Mon, Jan 28, 2019, at 2:39 AM
  • Sui,

    I've asked you repeatedly to demonstrate your special abilities as a sovereign.

    It's an open invitation.

    -- Posted by quietmike on Mon, Jan 28, 2019, at 8:31 AM
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    Paul said You do not have to eat fish on Friday, but if you invite someone to your home on Friday and They believe it's a sin to eat meat on Friday, you are to serve Fish on Friday as your meal, so your guests won't think you are a sinner and encouraging them to sin also.

    A Sovereign is suppose to GOVERN Himself.

    Why commit what YOU think is a Crime just to prove to a non-believer it isn't?

    I have copd, heart disease etc., etc., and at the age that if I fall I will break my Hip, so why in God's name would I want to get arrested and slammed down on the ground with 6 knees in my backs and a couple Taser leads stuck in my chest and my arms twisted behind my back like an Armstrong stretchy doll.

    You sure don't show any signs of having any common ¢ with your challenges. Who's the stupid one?

    -- Posted by sui on Mon, Jan 28, 2019, at 5:55 PM
  • That's still you.

    Even after your great prediction of pre-swearing in mass arrest of congressional members flopping like a fat man in a kiddie pool, you still post more q conspiracy nonsense.

    Smart people learn from their mistakes. Really smart people learn from other's mistakes. The rest keep repeating the same mistakes.

    -- Posted by quietmike on Mon, Jan 28, 2019, at 6:05 PM
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    One day it will all come out in the Back Wash! You won't remember what you are saying today when it is in your face.

    -- Posted by sui on Mon, Jan 28, 2019, at 8:19 PM
  • Back wash where someone lets fluid leave their mouth back into a drink, or where you reverse flow on a filter to flush out the trash?

    Both adequately describe the quality of information you've been posting lately.

    -- Posted by quietmike on Tue, Jan 29, 2019, at 2:58 AM
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    You had to google THAT? You will understand why I used the words Back Wash when the time is right.

    Oh what the hell! Bask Wash is the same as Back Flush. That is how you clean your Swimming Pool of all the Filth, Scum, green Slime, Bacteria, Urine and Other Germs.

    The very same thing GOD is doing to the SWAMP in DC and around the World.

    Now go take the blue pill and the story will end! You will wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe.

    -- Posted by sui on Tue, Jan 29, 2019, at 1:49 PM
  • https://www.memphisflyer.com/FlyontheWallBlog/archives/2019/01/29/memphis-tv-new...

    Scroll down to see their faces.

    This is why you never heard Dumpty tweet about the police shooting yesterday in Texas as he does when the suspects are black or an immigrant.They did not come over a wall.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Tue, Jan 29, 2019, at 3:52 PM
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    So what is the problem racist? This is just another shoot out between the cops and the robbers. This goes on everyday somewhere in one state or another.

    Trump is dealing with eliminating corrupt people and criminals and human abuse. Trump is dealing with getting money to build the wall to defend us from criminals who are coming over the border. Do you think Trump has nothing to do except keep YOU informed as a news reporter of all the shootings in America? Since 5 cops were shot and at least 2 died, he will no doubt mention something about it, but wouldn't bet any money on it, because it was just a line of duty shoot out.

    Are you upset because Trump doesn't have his Military on the street protecting everyone by Marshal law? Marshal law would not have prevented a shoot out between cops and criminals.

    We don't need Trump to tell us about it when we have you to tell us every time a white person commits a crime and gets a free lunch.

    All you are doing is reminding people that the white people are privileged or have supreme power over the black and brown and etc., etc., etc.. Isn't that Racist?

    Why do you insist on keeping Racist alive in America. Let it all out and let it go. All you need to deal with is how YOU will be dealt with when the time comes. Do you think GOD is going to turn his back on you when you need his help? GOD made you who you are. You had no choice in the matter. You could have been aborted! Be proud of who or what you are and forget about the others.

    YOU COULD Be one of those deceived people who are coming to America to get one of those big paying jobs that do not exist in America.

    Why don't you drive down to the border and tell all those illegals that if they come into America, the white cops will shoot them and the President of the United States won't come out on TV and report it to the world.

    Yeah that's the Ticket! You could be the new Democrat spokes woman for the Border Alliance Democratic Aliens Movement or BAD Aliens Movement.

    -- Posted by sui on Tue, Jan 29, 2019, at 6:12 PM
  • Now go take the blue pill and the story will end! You will wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe.

    -- Posted by sui


    I don't if you've taken too many pills over your lifetime, or if you're simply needing some now.

    There's no shame in seeking professional help.

    -- Posted by quietmike on Tue, Jan 29, 2019, at 6:25 PM
  • LBR I was wondering where you were lately. Welcome back.

    -- Posted by stevemills on Tue, Jan 29, 2019, at 6:59 PM
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    You left out the most important word in that sentence that would have made any sense out of it!

    Don't worry about me. I'm okay, however, they just can't fix stupid.

    -- Posted by sui on Tue, Jan 29, 2019, at 8:49 PM
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    Sui, maybe unreal could be the new Border Alliance Democratic Aliens Spokesperson Supreme. Or, BAD A**.

    Steve, I'll bet she was off somewhere for a much needed rest. I can tell a definite change in her attitude. She has done a 180. Now, instead of b!tching about Trump tweeting, she b!tches about him not tweeting. It is a refreshing change of pace.

    Unreal, you can call Trump a racist all you want. But it doesn't change the fact that he has done more in two years to help all colors of people than your buddy b o did to help any color of people in eight years.

    Sui, you are right. You can't fix stupid. But with some strategically placed duct tape, you can make it less annoying.

    -- Posted by fair share on Wed, Jan 30, 2019, at 1:58 AM
  • I'm okay, however, they just can't fix stupid.

    -- Posted by sui


    So you've just come to accept and enjoy it?

    -- Posted by quietmike on Wed, Jan 30, 2019, at 2:40 AM
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    Yes, I'm stupid! I somehow thought some of you would really be interested in some of the things Trump is doing to make America Great Again and how it would effect everyone's life. I was wrong and wasted my time on a bunch of Democrat bred Trump haters.

    I know what is happening and what is about to happen. That is all that is important. As long as I know, I can live with that. I can also live with being a Sovereign and not a U.S. Citizen who is bound by Federal Laws and U.S Codes.

    -- Posted by sui on Wed, Jan 30, 2019, at 3:30 PM
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    Blessed Assurance,

    You sent everyone to a web page, but you haven't explained anything to them.

    There is a lot more to it than just the article. It is coming here in 2021. I thought the reset would happen in 2019, but after some research I realize it can't happen until 2021.

    What happens is when Trump announces the NESARA Law, he has to step down.

    The NESARA was created under President Clinton by the Deep State. That meant Bill had to step down when he announced it. Bill didn't want to step down so he took it to the Supreme court. The Supreme Court liked it and reviewed the cases that year with the Farmers and rewrote it a little then sent it to Congress to legislate it into law. Not only did President Clinton have to step down but so does every one in Congress and the Senate. Congress didn't want to step down either so they sat on it and passed it over to the Bush Admin and Congress. The swamp didn't want to pass it into law because it meant their jobs.

    Eventually it got passed into law but never enacted.

    Now it's Trumps turn to deal with it. Trump said he was going to drain the swamp,turn the government over to the people where it belongs (the Sovereignty) then step down. He said that in his very early speeches.

    He planned all along on using this NESARA to drain the swamp. He doesn't have to arrest them, just announce the NESARA and everyone in Washington DC are out.

    This NESARA was created by the Deep State to control the world. However, when Bill sent it to the Supreme Court, they changed it for the good of the people, not the Deep State Cabal.

    What Trump is doing is arresting the Human Traffickers and Deep State Cabal members and People who are committing Treason against the Country and against the Authority of the President to do his job.

    As far as all the politicians go, they all have to resign or step down immediately as soon as Trump announces the NESARA Law. No arrests will be needed unless they have committed serious crimes like so many of them have.

    The Deep State created this and can not stop it. They put all the power of this law into Trump's hands, because they didn't want to lose their jobs. Now they will all lose their lives as Traitors.

    The Rabbit Hole goes much Deeper, but I ain't going there any time soon. It's deep and very scary down there, so none of you would believe it.

    If I stop here it's all good news form here back to the top.

    example: Everyone in the world over the age of 21, will receive $100,000.00 every year for 11 years, when we go back on the gold standard. All Credit Card debt, Mortgage Debts, Bank Loans and Car payments are canceled. Everyone will be debt free. I believe all Medical and Hospital Bills will be paid off in full also. Every known debt is cancelled by this NESARA Law.

    -- Posted by sui on Thu, Jan 31, 2019, at 1:49 AM
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    Sui, the only way we could have a jubilee year with all debt canceled would be if there was an absolute total collapse of the economy and the end of the current government. With the continual push toward socialism by the left, it is reasonable to think it may happen at some point. If and when that time comes, the only precious metal of any value will be lead (and brass). Gold and silver will do nothing for you at that time. You can't eat it, wear it, stay warm with it, or use it to protect yourself. It will have no immediate value to anyone in the halcyon days of the Jubilee.

    So we may get where you say we are headed. But it won't be the way you say. Congress can not make a law requiring the whole government resign at some time I the future, all triggered by the President uttering some magic word of phrase. No Congress would ever pass it; no President would ever sign it; and no SCOTUS would ever even hear the case, much less rule it Constitutional.

    And sui, I assume BA isn't explaining things to us because she knows we would rather have you doing the splaining.

    -- Posted by fair share on Thu, Jan 31, 2019, at 10:42 AM
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    Well, I am finally glad to see someone make some serious and intelligent remarks.

    Haven't you been saying that no one is above the law?

    NESARA IS Law. Everyone will have to obey it if it is enacted.

    Gold and silver will do nothing for you at that time.?

    Tell that to the world and see what they say to you. Gold and silver are the two most valued metals and when we go back on the Gold Standard, it will mean everything! If Gold is worthless, why are all the big Countries stocking up on Gold? All money in the world is calculated according to the Value of Gold

    Every Country will have to come up with their own gold or something to back their currency that is equal to the value of Gold.

    I have to agree with you on the Socialism idea. We know that is what the Democrats are preaching - free money for everything.

    At the present time there is no way the government can afford to pay all those bills for Americans, let alone the whole world.

    However, if every Country defaulted on their Country's debt and all the illegal debts created by the Banks, Loan Companies, Credit Card Companies, Mortgage Companies and the IRS, they would have the money, because their money would be recalculated according to the amount of Gold they own.

    But again, if everyone received $100,000.00 every month for 11 full years, Everyone would be equal. No one would need your money to work for you or do favors for you. You would have to cut your own lawn yourself, fix your car, forget about jobs. No one would want to work any more. If they have the money why work for it. Who would deliver food to the stores or work at the stores to stock it on the shelves.

    It does have it's draw backs and I think they happen to be dangerously intense.

    You missed the one thing that could collapse the economy world wide?

    The world currency reset? Yes all the fiat money in the world is coming to an end because it is all worth-less. Money has become almost useless as money and must be changed to something else. that is why you have heard about all those cyber currencies, Iraqi Dinar, Petro Dollars etc., etc..

    The Federal Reserve has been increasing the interest rate to decrease the value of the dollar world wide. Trump is aware of this and has been stealing all of our Gold back that the Bushes have sold or given away. We now have all our gold back and more Gold than all the big Countries put together.

    The Federal Reserve has said it is bankrupt and has lost all control over the Central Banks. That is because Trump has power over the Central Banks now and is purposely crashing them so he can go back to the Gold Standard. I didn't know exactly how he was going to do it, until I found out about the "N.E.S.A.R.A. Law", the "G.E.S.A.R.A. Law" and the "SSP & SPHERE ALLIANCE - LIBERATIONEM MUNDI - DELIGATE".

    So there is much, much more to it than meets the eye! I do not intend to go down that Rabbit hole, so you will all be spared for now.

    Just one Possibility:

    It is very possible that when Trump and the Congress and Senate steps down or is arrested if they don't - It may be the time in History for the Anti-Christ to be the next Ruler of the World. A new time of Peace and longer lives, then all of a sudden Someone is elected that demands the mark of the beast in order to buy or sell using all the free money we are receiving for 11 years. Wouldn't the majority of the world's people accept the mark of the beast in order to enjoy having all that FREE money? Money isn't the root of all evil. It is the LOVE of money!

    Just saying, but not going in that direction?

    -- Posted by sui on Thu, Jan 31, 2019, at 3:10 PM
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    fair share,

    Let me "splain" something else for you - BA aka Blessed Assurance is not a "She", unless he went "Transie".

    -- Posted by sui on Thu, Jan 31, 2019, at 3:19 PM
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    If the economy has collapsed and the government has vanished, we won't be on the gold standard. We will be on a barter or take what you can system. Gold won't help you then. Bullets will. Food, clothing, energy sources, or beneficial services to trade with others for what you don't have will help you. Once the anarchy resolves and order is restored and a new government is formed, then gold and silver will begin to have some value. But I don't really get why everyone is so enamoured of gold. Paper currency has no intrinsic value whether it is backed by gold, bitcoin, or the good word of the government. The paper, plastic, etc is a representation of the value of the goods and labor (both physical and mental) that make up the economy. And that is why "income redistribution" will only work when they can figure out a way to make everyone equally productive to society. That also helps clarify the silliness of being jealous of and denigrating the super wealthy. To say it is immoral for a person to have or make $1M, $10M, $1B, or whatever number you want to pick because it keeps anyone else from having enough is just crazy. The economy is not a pie so that the bigger the piece you take, the less there is left for others. It is like a constantly changing big pot of stew. The size of which is always changing dependent on how much is being put in and taken out at the time.

    -- Posted by fair share on Thu, Jan 31, 2019, at 5:28 PM
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    The value of Gold keeps up with inflation as long as the Country does not print more redeemable in Gold Certificates than the Country has Gold.

    Gold is like a forever Postage stamp.

    That is the real value of Money backed by Gold, the paper Gold back Certificate grows as inflation grows. Inflation takes 96-97¢ from your $1 Federal Reserve Note. That doesn't happen with Money backed by Gold.

    Our Birth Certificates are the documents that makes us a slave to productivity and the economy. Our Federal Reserve Note is backed by the "Productivity of the people" and the good credit of the United States. I also read that on a sign in a Bank in Murfs., so I know it's true.

    Currency backed by Gold is just that and has nothing to do with the economy or work of the people. we are no longer slaves to the Federal reserve.

    The N.E.S.A.R.A. Law is already a Law that will have to be obeyed if you don;t want to go to jail, when it is enacted.

    The Congress has already passed it into law because it was the Supreme Court that sent it to the congress to pass.

    The Federal Reserve will remain open for 1 year in order to transfer all Federal Reserve Notes over to Money backed by Gold.

    No matter how big or small you cut the pie, there can never be more paper money printed (all denominations) than the amount of Gold we have. That is what keeps the money up with inflation costs. No matter how much is taken out of the pot, the gold is there to cover what is taken out.

    If by chance more Gold is put in the pot (Prospectors find new Gold), then the value of the Printed Certificate will increase in Value because it will take less US Gold Backed dollars to buy 1 oz of Gold.

    I have been telling everyone for years, WE THE PEOPLE, ARE THE GOVERNMENT! The United States Government is a Corporation created by Congress to give it sovereignty over (the United States) aka Washington, DC and the Federal territories and 14th Amendment Citizens.

    The new President, Vice President, Congress and Senate would be re-elected within 120 days.

    If you want to understand more about this process and how it may come to be, you will have to google it or go down that Rabbit Hole, or ask Blessed Assurance to splain it.

    -- Posted by sui on Thu, Jan 31, 2019, at 9:21 PM
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    Can anyone who has read my comments tell me why any illegal aliens would even want to come to America when their countries will have to become just like America?

    Everyone in these countries would receive $100,000.00 a month for 11 years. They would be (Multi-Millionaires) living in their own Righteous Countries that they grew up in! No wars or dictatorship!

    As I understand it, the "Government of Washington, DC" would have to be abolished and DC return to being our government, without the illegal government of its own.

    The Entire Black Race in America and all immigrants would be just as Sovereign as I am, because the government took away their sovereignty by trickery in the oath they took to be US Citizens by the 14th Amendment.

    Who could be against this Great N.E.S.A.R.A. Law???

    No one can really answer that without going deeper into the Rabbit Hole where the answers lay. Your on your own!

    Is your Freedom worth it???

    -- Posted by sui on Fri, Feb 1, 2019, at 1:11 PM
  • Several hours after the story broke, and no apoplexy from LBR over the Virginia governor appearing in his yearbook photo in either blackface or a KKK outfit?

    Nothing about his nickname being "coonman" at the school?

    Oh yeah, he's a democrat, and he apologized, so he's the modern day Robert Byrd.

    -- Posted by quietmike on Fri, Feb 1, 2019, at 10:26 PM
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    SOTU Speech

    Trump Announces;

    Freedom of Debt from the Cabal.

    The G.E.S.A.R.A. Law

    The Return of the US Currency to Gold.

    Our U.S. Economy was already Gold Backed on Jan. 29, 2019.

    A New Asset Gold Backed U.S. Treasury Note. Coming out very soon.

    Congress must Recess itself (or step down as documented in Law) making it legal for members under indictment to be arrested (estimated 80 to 140 members of congress with 85-95% of them being Democrats) including House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.

    Option, Trump could invoke National Emergency and arrest by Military forces for Military Tribunals on Feb. 15, by shutting down the government again and arrest while it is shut down and closed more gov agencies.

    Trump already shut down the IRS, IMF and Central Banks. They are no longer receiving money from the U.S.

    Charges range from High Treason, Election Fraud, Child Sex Trafficking, Murder, Pornography, Money Laundering, Bribery, Perjury, U.S. Tax Payer Fund Mis-appropriations, plus crimes of Uranium One, 9-11, and Benghazi Massacre

    Trump no doubt will declare Marshal Law for the safety of the people.

    As of Jan 21, 2019 this country has been under Constitutional Law. The New world Order (Deep State aka Cabal) has no control over the U.S. government, but can cause terror attacks using - Antifa, BLM, M-13, and the Deep State brain-washed Democrats. Example: Super Bowl Game coming up.

    They will do their worse after the 85%-95% of Democrats are arrested. The Deep State MSM will also go down with Google, Facebook, Twitter, and etc.

    It's going to be Hell in February.

    This could cause a problem for anyone who hasn't stocked up some food, water, gas and cash.

    John F. Kennedy, Jr. may be brought out in February or March, because Hillary Clinton is no threat to him any more.

    RBG was in an induced coma but a Funeral Home van came to pick up her body so she is either dead or taken somewhere where her dead body can be put on life support until trump steps down, because Trump will never be Impeached.

    -- Posted by sui on Fri, Feb 1, 2019, at 10:42 PM
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    I'm sure unreal is recouping from her outrage over Trump being a racist and has no wherewithal left to be outraged at Northam. And if she isn't gonna get outraged by him advocating postpartum abortion, why bother with a little blackface and a white sheet? Anyway, it is just SOP for the urban plantation overseers, aka demonrat politicians.

    If we really are going to have all debts cancelled in a few days, now would be the time to max out all your credit cards. And get as many new ones as you can and max them out too. (Warning for the slow ones out there-- that was sarcasm, do not do it!)

    -- Posted by fair share on Sat, Feb 2, 2019, at 9:35 AM
  • Yeah, I'm wondering about the advice to put back (federal reserve) money, then a warning that it will all be worthless soon.

    -- Posted by quietmike on Sat, Feb 2, 2019, at 5:37 PM
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    I understand only $8,500 will be given for each Credit Card so if you have the big ones, you will possibly be stuck with some, but I don't see that. here's why.

    Every contract you ever entered into is null and void because you were never told that they turned your name into a Corporation so they could sue you for the money. That makes the contract Fraudulent and void.

    Let me repeat that - EVERY Contract you ever signed was done fraudulent because everything was not disclosed at the signing. UCC 1-308 without prejudice.

    By going out and making more contract Knowing you could have them paid off for you, you are committing Fraud and it would probably be against the U.S. Government.

    As a Sovereign, I have used UCC 1-308 to default on Credit Cards, Hospital Bills and Collection Agencies. I was also able to use it against the IRS. It's great being a Sovereign and doing everything by the law - Common Law aka "Due Process" of the law.

    When Trump announces the G.E.S.A.R.A. Law, everyone will be a Sovereign, 14th amendment citizens, government employees and even immigrants (legal and illegal)who step foot on American Soil.

    Think about it. We can't agree on anything between Repub/Demos, White/Back/Brown/Muslims/etc. and the different religions, so how will we have a "more perfect Union" when everyone is part of the Sovereignty?

    The Federal Reserve has been shut down as far as the government funding it any more, however it will be allowed to stay open one year to work with the new Treasury Department in exchanging the Federal Reserve notes into legal Gold backed U.S. Dollars.

    They don't even have the final acceptance of the new U.S Currency yet. What they are proposing looks sick and confusing.

    It's all unclear to me still. We will exchange our Federal Reserve Notes for real money, yet they are saying everyone over 21 Yr of age will receive $100,000.00 a month for 11 years, so why even fool with the Federal reserve notes? It may take years to do all this.

    There is a lot more to it, but I am not going there.

    We will just have to watch the SOTU speech on 2-12-2019 then see if the arrests start happening on 2-15-2019.

    Nancy and Chuckie don't want to work with Trump at all, but if Trump shuts down the government again, then the Military will be coming for them. They want to postpone their Trip to Gitmo.

    -- Posted by sui on Sun, Feb 3, 2019, at 2:15 AM
  • So you admit to being a thief by using services you never intended to pay for?

    -- Posted by quietmike on Sun, Feb 3, 2019, at 3:37 AM
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    NO! I paid cash for all doctor visits. However, when hospital debts become too high to pay I would make monthly cash payments. Before the second month's bill came due, they sent a request for the full amount and turned it over to a third party (interloper) to collect.

    A third party (interloper) does not contract with me, so I did not owe them a dam thing.

    You see, when the Hospital sold the debt to a collection agency (just a lawyer picking up money on debts not owed any longer) by selling the debt for pennies on the debt, that paid the debt off in Full. The Hospital no longer receives any or the money this rogue lawyer collects. If the lawyer can collect all of it, he becomes much richer. if not he sells this debt to other lawyers (or I mean collection agents) to try their luck and the first lawyer gets his money back.

    When the lawyer (er I mean, debt collection agency) takes you to court, you have to notify the court that you have no intention of contracting with the court or the agency. (A Sovereign can not be sued in his own court without his consent).

    The court can not bring the case against you if you reserve you rights under UCC 1-308 without prejudice. This means the Collection Agency doesn't have jurisdiction to take you to court.

    If the Collection agency (just a rogue lawyer) tries to say I owe them money, There are lots of laws against deceiving me into signing a contract that did not declose in full all the conditions that made me a Strawman (Corporation) by using MY Name to do it.

    When you sign most contracts with a large money value, you are actually signing a "Promissory Note".

    A promissory note makes the debt paid in full. That means your debt was paid in full by that promissory Note (Because there is NO Lawful Money backed by gold). Something for interested parties to research on your own. HJR 194.

    Think what you will! A Sovereign has Supreme Authority over things it knows about by using the laws of these united States of America. Therefor I tell people I am not above the law, because I am bound by Common Law, but not bound by your defacto law (Deep State laws).

    With illegal Fiat Money that is not backed by gold is not legal money in America. You CAN NOT pay you bills off with Federal reserve Note. All you are doing is just making another debt for the U.S. Government to pay off. You can only promise to pay your debts. Companies know you don't know this and make contracts with you by getting you to give them a promissory note that makes it all legal. Then they demand that you pay them for the debt that has already been paid by the Treasury and includes interest payment on top of your debt which has been paid off.

    We don't owe them anything. Using the U.S. Dollar is using illegal money to not pay your bills.

    Complicated? Confusing? Trump is stopping all this with Gold backed U.S. currency.

    Contracts will become binding in the future when we have lawful money.

    -- Posted by sui on Sun, Feb 3, 2019, at 2:49 PM
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    I bet you weren't expecting that? That was just one example of the Authority you have as being a Sovereign man or woman.

    Everyone needs to read up on sovereign rights because everyone will be a sovereign when this comes to an end.

    Like Trump said. He is going to drain the swamp THEN he is going to step down and let the people but a new President in Office. He has said he is handing the Government back to the people where it belongs.

    We The People are the Sovereignty in our country, Everyone needs to find out what Sovereignty means and who the people are. There is much more to being a Sovereign than just not obeying the unlawful laws.

    The best thing about all this is The Blacks will finally be free from slavery. They we be part of the Sovereignty and the new congress will have to repeal or amend the 14th amendment when they add the old 13th amendment (Title of Nobility) to the Bill of rights again.

    -- Posted by sui on Sun, Feb 3, 2019, at 3:36 PM
  • So for years you've told us that cops, lawyers, and judges don't really understand "sovereignty", which is why you refuse to demonstrate your "special powers". Now you're claiming that you didn't even have to show up in court to defend against a suit, and somehow the judge didn't declare a summary judgement against you in your absence?

    What's the weather like in that special place you live?

    -- Posted by quietmike on Sun, Feb 3, 2019, at 8:26 PM
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    Congress can't repeal or amend an ammendment to the Constitution. That is up to the States to do. They can propose ammendments for the States to ratify or not ratify. The "old 13th" was never ratified by the States. It had no time limit set by Congress over 200 years ago. So if anyone wants it to be an ammendment, all they need to do is get 26 more States to ratify it. Then it would become an ammendment to the Constitution. For the first time. Even then, lawyers and judges that use the terms Esq., Esquire, or His Honor would still be American citizens. (Assuming they weren't illegals.)

    -- Posted by fair share on Mon, Feb 4, 2019, at 1:04 AM
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    Yes. They don't understand Sovereignty because it is an Article III Dejure law or common law which isn't used in Federal Court which is actually just an International Agency (a Foreign Agency). It doesn't have jurisdiction over a sovereign unless he/she consents to contact with the court or the person bringing the charge.

    The Judges, Lawyers and cops are taught the law that is used on regular people who don't know their rights. That is the Law of the Deep State and is inconsistent with the Constitution, making them unlawful, null and void.

    So in reality, when it comes down to it, as a Sovereign, I do not break any laws, I just do not obey an unlawful law.

    That's why I don't argue that much with you or anybody, because it takes years to understand most of this. It's not my Job to teach anyone how to protect their rights. Hell, most of you don't even know what rights you do have, so how can you protect rights you don't even know you have.

    I don't fight the cops because they are just doing their job, but it makes me very upset when they kill an unarmed person just because they didn't obey them. Now the cops and detectives will have to learn the common law rights of the people so they (cops) don't go to prison in their place.

    If a Judge violates someone's constitutional right in court he could be charged with Treason. After what Trump is doing, I do not think anyone is going to want to use the term Treason for a long, long time!

    A lot of Sovereigns have been killed and as many sent to prison for not knowing their rights. They only knew they were suppose to have rights. Rights have to be exercised before you go to court, because you don't really want to walk into a court (er I mean an International foreign agency).

    When Trump gets through all the courts in the states will have to be Common Law Courts and judges and attorneys will have to be re-trained in Constitutional Law.

    I bet you didn't even know this. The original 13th Amendment forbid Titles of Nobility. An example is "Esquire". A title for lawyer given by the English Parliament. The 13th A would prohibit an Esquire from holding any political Office.

    Today you have to be a lawyer to be in Politics.

    Why would a judge want me to appear in "his" court room with all the information I have about the court system and their Uniform Commercial Codes? He would not want the people in "his" court room to hear all this information.

    Also, when he had to dismiss my case, he would have to dismiss all the cases in "his" court room that day, because of the "Equal Protection of The Law" clause in the 14th Amendment, that really doesn't apply to 14th Amendment citizens. However, he can NEVER tell the people they don't have "Equal Protection of the Law" or he would be voted off the bench.

    But, the Rabbit hole goes much Deeper!

    The weather has been pretty nice here, when I am not in the rabbit hole, lol.

    -- Posted by sui on Mon, Feb 4, 2019, at 1:57 AM
  • I think you need to come up for air, out of the rabbit hole.

    -- Posted by quietmike on Mon, Feb 4, 2019, at 7:37 AM
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    "Hell, most of you don't even know what rights you do have, so how can you protect rights you don't even know you have."

    Most of us know we have the right to remain silent.

    The original 13th Ammendment is the current 13th Ammendment. The "Titles of Nobility" proposed ammendment was never ratified. The title "Esquire" is not given by the British Parliament. Lawyers bestow it upon themselves out of vanity. I would not be opposed to stripping lawyers of their citizenship and tossing them over the southern wall. But we can't do it Constitutionally.

    While most politicians are lawyers, it is not a requirement. Thank God! Otherwise, we wouldn't have Trump.

    -- Posted by fair share on Mon, Feb 4, 2019, at 9:03 AM
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    Common Sense at work or Food for Thought.

    If the G.E.S.A.R.A. Law is enacted and if it cancels out everyone's public debt, and if it also gives everyone over 21 years of age $100,000.00 a month for 11 years - - What are all those displaced illegal aliens gonna do for money? The US won't have food stamps or a welfare program any more and the illegal aliens never became citizens so they are not in any country's data banks any more to receive the benefits of the G.E.S.A.R.A. Law! Looks like the Democrats may have to take care of them after all. We'll see just how much they love them and want to take care of them. FEMA will wind up rounding all of them up as homeless people and get them off the streets and into FEMA Barges.

    Socialism doesn't seem to work even when it is well planned.

    -- Posted by sui on Mon, Feb 4, 2019, at 5:04 PM
  • How is the government giving people money every month any different than socialism?

    Canceling debt is one of the platforms of socialists like AOC and Bernie the bum, who want to forgive student loans.

    -- Posted by quietmike on Mon, Feb 4, 2019, at 7:09 PM
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    The difference is: when the debt is cancelled there won't be a Deficit that has to be paid and if all personal private debts are cancelled, people won't owe debt either.

    Instead of the government paying everyone's medical insurance and bills, the people will have the money to pay there own future bills and insurance and grocery bills.

    Your birth certificate was used to make you a slave to pay the deficit when ever it was called in. That was cancelled so the money we earned for being slaves for the debt, is reimbursed in monthly payments for 11 years.

    You would have to research - "Cestui Qui trust".

    In California, the people complained that the “undocumented Mexican immigrants”, aka “illegal aliens”, were causing violence, crimes, vandalism, etc. and the cops and the courts were doing nothing about it. It seemed as if “illegal aliens” were the problem. But, the District Attorney said, “Anything short of murder we won’t prosecute.” If only the people knew what he meant, they would shift their rage from the “illegal aliens” to the DA and his ilk.

    -- Posted by sui on Mon, Feb 4, 2019, at 9:09 PM
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    This is what the DA really meant!

    “Undocumented” means there is no trust account to charge, "which is why the government wants them all to have driver licences". The DA won’t prosecute because he can’t; there is nothing and no one to charge. Men and women cannot be charged; only trust accounts can be charged and, since there is no account, due to no documents to create them, there is no way to make money off these “immigrants”. Murder is a different story. This means the “illegals” took out of the commerce game someone with an account and so, in that case, the DA will prosecute. Wait until the people of California figure out that the real “problem” of the “undocumented Mexican immigrants” is, as always, “ALL ABOUT MONEY”.

    (Taken from: "Incredible Legal Remedy to Get Any Case Dismissed in Court") I doubt anyone will understand this for months. I understand it but couldn't present it successfully in court. Very complicated situations could come up to distract and prevent a proper and legal defense.

    -- Posted by sui on Mon, Feb 4, 2019, at 9:25 PM
  • "How is the government giving people money every month any different than socialism?"

    It is different than Socialism, because it has nothing to do with Socialism. Socialism is not just a bad word. it has an actual meaning, one that it seems the people who hate and fear it the most do not even know.

    Socialism: a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole... A simpler definition is, the government owns and/or controls the means of production and distribution of goods and services....which means that EVERY government service is Socialism. The fire department is socialism. The police, the military, the power company, garbage pickup, public roads, public schools... all socialism. If you want to actually escape socialism entirely, you need to move to Somalia.

    -- Posted by lazarus on Tue, Feb 5, 2019, at 2:30 AM
  • So how does government give anyone money if it doesn't control it first? The government produces nothing. It only moves things around.

    The dictionary defintion of socialism is irrelevant to this discussion.

    The operating principle is what matters. Democrats are only concerned about the distribution of goods, the how is irrelevant. Lefties learned long ago they could let people keep the pink slip to their possessions, and just legislate and regulate it so much they have de facto ownership, while still claiming "it isn't real socialism".

    -- Posted by quietmike on Tue, Feb 5, 2019, at 4:53 AM
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    The problem with socialism, whether real or as practiced, is sooner or later, you run out of other people's money. As more lazies see they have it made in the shade, the number of takers approaches the number of makers. The greedy keep getting greedier. And eventually the amount of taking exceeds the ability of the makers to make. Socialism then ends when the greedy kill the golden goose. Or the guvment kills the citizens.

    Of course, if they would ever just try REAL socialism and do it the RIGHT way, maybe that time it would work. (This sentence best read with a thick sarcasm accent.)

    -- Posted by fair share on Tue, Feb 5, 2019, at 10:16 AM
  • The meaning of words is "relevant" to every discussion. It is pretty much impossible to have a meaningful dialogue without assigning specific meaning to words. It is made all the more confusing when words are used opposite their meaning.

    -- Posted by lazarus on Tue, Feb 5, 2019, at 10:20 AM
  • Ok, if you wanna play that. What is the meaning of ownership?

    I own this phone I'm typing on. I can stomp on it, throw it out the window, or put it under glass as a decorative piece.

    If a person owns a business, are they able to do with it what they will?

    Can they serve some customers, and refuse others? Whoever makes those types of decisions is the true owner.

    Once again I'll ask you how the government can give money it doesn't control, as the government produces nothing?

    -- Posted by quietmike on Tue, Feb 5, 2019, at 10:49 AM
  • Ok, you love your little word games. You are right. When Trump threatens to punish GM for having a plant in Mexico... Socialism. The government trying to control how a business is run. When he demands that Ford cancel plans for a plant in Mexico, and they capitulate. Socialism. The government taking control of how a business is run. When he tells Apple to put a bigger screen on their phone, attacks mergers, tries to prop up the coal industry, because it is losing out to more efficient sources of energy, tries to dictate personnel policies to the NFL... all of it Socialism. We have not had a president in my lifetime more functionally Socialist.

    -- Posted by lazarus on Tue, Feb 5, 2019, at 3:11 PM
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    Outsiders looking in for the first time might not believe it, but Laz, I know for a fact you are over 2 years old. Can it really be you have already forgotten obummer?

    -- Posted by fair share on Tue, Feb 5, 2019, at 3:54 PM
  • Laz must still be using those drugs he smuggled across the border.

    -- Posted by quietmike on Tue, Feb 5, 2019, at 5:01 PM
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    No wonder he doesn't want a wall.

    -- Posted by fair share on Tue, Feb 5, 2019, at 5:19 PM
  • Lazarus first objects saying words have meanings.

    Then when the meaning of a word is given, it's word games.

    Just a few years ago, liberals were whining about rich CEOs outsourcing American jobs to increase profits, now when measures are taken to bring jobs back to the US, still they complain.

    Liberals wouldn't be happy with a gold plated EBT card.

    -- Posted by quietmike on Tue, Feb 5, 2019, at 5:31 PM
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    I think they are just spinning around. Ew (elizabeth warren) did a 360. Now pocahontas is back to being an Indian. Her chances for 2020 I would conservatively estimate at < 1/1,024.

    And they have spun 180 on whether or not to believe in innocent until proven guilty. Lucky for the Va Lt Governor.

    They don't seem to have yet quite come to a consensus on whether 30 year old blackface should be a career killer (at least for a demonrat). Apparently the house libs don't think it should be.

    -- Posted by fair share on Tue, Feb 5, 2019, at 7:09 PM
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    Well, another great SOTU address. Not a bad part to it. My problem with it is trying to decide my favorite part. I think I've got it narrowed down to two. Maybe when the camera was showing a disappointed looking burney and Trump telling him, ms ocasio, and the rest of the commies that we were born free, will remain free, and will never be a socialist country. Or maybe when the inappropriately white clad (I defy anyone to show me even one of them that are innocent and pure) female demonrats were acting like they were at a Trump campaign rally chanting USA!, USA!, USA!

    -- Posted by fair share on Tue, Feb 5, 2019, at 9:49 PM
  • Lots of answers, eh. The first one is easy. I am not sure what Obamma has to do with anything, since he is not now, nor ever will be again, president. I know it is the first thing you think of when you are stuck, but what does it really mean?

    I will have to stop and give some credit. Someone prepared Trump a very good speech, and he did the best job he has ever done delivering it. If it were not 180 degrees off his words and actions over the past two years, it might give some hope.

    I had to laugh at the line about us never becoming "socialist." Do you think he means he will stop trying to micromanage American business from the White House? Nah, me neither. Fortunately his fans do not know what socialism is.

    It sounded good that we have 5 million fewer people receiving food stamps... although he seems to have juxtaposed some figures. We have only dropped 3.5 million users during his first two years. The 5 million is how many came off the food stamp rolls the two years before he took office.

    He did accurately state that we were the worlds largest producer of oil and gas.... He could have said we are *still* the world's largest producer, since we moved into that position 4 years before he took office. And we did, indeed set a record for production this year... again. So we have not declined under his stewardship.

    The number of women in the work force is the most it has ever been... duh. The number of men in the work force is the most it has ever been, too. Probably this is a result of us having the most people we have ever had. The percentage of women in the work force is down. It peaked in 2000.

    We have the most robust economy in the world... We have the largest economy in the world. That is nothing new. In terms of economic growth we are not at the top. China and India grew almost twice as fast. So did powerhouses like Latvia and Poland... even struggling Greece topped our growth rate. And it certainly is not the fastest we have ever grown. Nor do I know exactly how "historic" the growth rate could be called, since it has been topped 41 times since 1950.

    Still, again to be fair, this was much more of the typical political speech. There were not that many of the just baldfaced factual lies, and a lot more of the puffery we expect from politicians; misleading, exaggerated, or incomplete assertions are so much better than outright lies.

    -- Posted by lazarus on Wed, Feb 6, 2019, at 1:19 AM
  • OTOH, the rebuttal from the losing democrat candidate was just bizarre.

    My dad gave someone a jacket once (???)

    Claim: The tax cuts rigged the system against working people.

    Reality: Unemployment claims fell to a five decade low.

    Hourly wages, in inflation adjusted dollars, is rising.

    Claim: We know bipartisanship could craft a 21st century immigration plan but this administration chooses to cage children and tear families apart.

    Reality: The pics of children in cages were from Obama's administration.

    -- Posted by quietmike on Wed, Feb 6, 2019, at 6:10 AM
  • I have to agree with Lazarus on the Socialism issue. We are already steeped in, at the very least, quasi-socialism. Not that it is a good thing, as it is doomed to failure, but it is reality.

    -- Posted by Liveforlight on Wed, Feb 6, 2019, at 8:05 AM
  • QM; We definitely agree on that one. The "rebuttal" was bizarre. It wasn't a rebuttal. It wasn't an alternate State of the Union. It was just bizarre.

    -- Posted by lazarus on Wed, Feb 6, 2019, at 8:20 AM
  • Was the rebuttal choice decided after they got a copy of his speech? Maybe they did not know how to rebut without appearing too obstructionist so go bizarre?

    -- Posted by stevemills on Wed, Feb 6, 2019, at 10:20 AM
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    Definitely bizarro. I wish they had picked miss ocasio to give it. At least it would have been hilarious and would have generated an amazing batch of new memes. They probably picked abrams because crying upchuck and ninny nancy are too afraid of the mentally challenged millennial. One thing I didn't understand about the whining loser's speech. She said her family went back and forth between lower middle class and working class. Did she mean sometimes her family worked and sometimes it didn't so they lived lower middle class off the taxpayer? Does she really think everyone above lower middle class doesn't work? News flash: you don't get to the upper economic classes without a lot of hard work. "Working class" includes everyone that works for their living.

    -- Posted by fair share on Wed, Feb 6, 2019, at 11:51 AM
  • Interesting article about the "new" faction of the Democratic party https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/02/04/the-insurgents-behind-alexand...

    -- Posted by stevemills on Wed, Feb 6, 2019, at 1:04 PM
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    That was pretty interesting, Steve. It is pretty obvious that the road to the 2020 demonrat Presidential nomination runs through Venezuela. It should be interesting and fun to watch. I'm already popping the corn.

    -- Posted by fair share on Wed, Feb 6, 2019, at 1:38 PM
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    My, my, my. Where is all the house lib outrage at those goofy dims in Virginia? Looks like the Virginia dims are going out of their way to give the governorship to the Republican house speaker. Seems as tho the AG who was 2nd in line fessed up to doing the black face thing also. Almost like he didn't even want to try to be governor. Isn't it about time the hypocritical dims quit reflexively calling any and all Republicans and conservatives racist?

    -- Posted by fair share on Wed, Feb 6, 2019, at 5:49 PM
  • What I find hard to swallow is that that there is such an outcry over things college kids did 30-40 years ago. Republican or Democrat.

    I did things in college that I would criticize today because I have grown up, matured. Is our society really expecting kids who are teenage to early twenties to carry their mistakes and stupidness ALL through life? Why grow up?

    Why try to rehabilitate criminals? Once guilty always guilty?

    I saw a picture of Ted Danson in black face with Whoopi Goldberg laughing away. Is he a racist or she?

    Are we not SICK of all this mudslinging and faux outrage?

    -- Posted by stevemills on Wed, Feb 6, 2019, at 7:23 PM
  • I do think it's unfair.

    With that said, look at what they tried to do with Kavanaugh, without one scintilla of actual evidence.

    Dems set the bar, now its just sauce for the goose.

    Gotta love karma.

    -- Posted by quietmike on Wed, Feb 6, 2019, at 9:15 PM
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    Vanessa Tyson found it hard to swallow what Fairfax was forcing down her throat a decade and a half ago. She seems more credible than the lying winch that tried to take down Kavanaugh. I believe in the presumption of innocence. If she really was abused, why not file a police report at the time? And, if people are going to be held accountable for their youthful actions in perpetuity, we might as well all be convicted unless we can prove we were innocent. But, I do enjoy a little turnaround is fair play every now and again. Also, I have fun pointing out the hypocrisy of the left.

    Speaking of the left, that was a nice stunt they tried to pull at the SOTU address last night. All the dimwit women must have thought they were cute dressed in white and all sitting together. I just got to wonder if any of them were thinking about the old days of the DNC conventions when the KKK attended looking much like the ghost women. I also have to wonder what they thought when they realized they were acting like they were at a Trump rally clapping and chanting USA!, USA!, USA! No telling what they said to themselves when it dawned on them that they will be stars in some 2020 Trump commercials.

    -- Posted by fair share on Wed, Feb 6, 2019, at 9:21 PM
  • The most ironic part for me was again bringing up children being separated from parents, when the democrat Virginia governor advocated for "post birth abortion".

    -- Posted by quietmike on Thu, Feb 7, 2019, at 3:19 AM
  • Hey, QM. That is a gross misrepresentation of what the Virginia governor was talking about. I heard what he said, and he was talking about something the government should not be involved in any way. This happened in my family.

    They did not have all the prenatal testing that we have now, so for 9 months my mother thought she was carrying a baby. But, something had gone terribly wrong. What she had inside her was part of a baby. It would not be capable of living once the umbilicus was disconnected. Usually, when a fetus is nonviable it is spontaneously aborted, but that did not happen to my mother. Instead my parents had nine months of hopes and dreams and plans that all came crashing down on the day that was supposed to be the biggest day of their lives. She had her warnings. The baby never moved. It did not kick or turn. But, you know, you just don't let yourself think the worst. Not for something so important.

    Fortunately, we did have advanced enough capabilities to remove the baby by C-section. Otherwise my mother would have died, too. The baby could not be born naturally. Once outside, it never drew a breath. There were no "decisions" to be made, because we had no way to keep it alive. There was no brain in the fetus. It did not develop wrong. it never developed at all. I call it a baby, because my parents always considered it their baby. But I wonder, what would it really be. At any rate, they had no decision to make, because there was nothing to be done. I am not really sure if there would be a decision today, but we have developed a lot of capability of prolonging life. maybe we would have enough machinery to keep it going for a little while. Maybe in terms of hours, or maybe days.

    I know that with or without a decision to make, my parents never got over it. One day I will lay my mother to rest next to my dad, and their baby.

    This is the situation the Virginia governor was talking about. This is not about people killing a baby because they don't want it. It is about a very human tragedy, that happens in real life. When the discussion is had about what to do, it should be between the parents and their Dr, Maybe their clergyman. The government should butt the hell out. Blowing it up and misrepresenting it as a political ploy is, frankly, despicable.

    -- Posted by lazarus on Fri, Feb 8, 2019, at 11:40 AM
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    Sorry for your loss, laz. Even in this day and age there's nothing to do for anencephaly. Sure, the heartbeat could be kept going and breathing supported by a ventilator for a few hours. But that would just be prolonging the inevitable.

    I also saw the Virginia governor talk about this. He did not specify it would be limited to babies with profound deformities incompatible with life, or even any deformity. The way he explained it, if the baby momma didn't get around to killing her baby before delivery, she and the doctors could decide to neglect it to death after delivery. But being the compassionate people they are, they would keep the baby comfortable.

    -- Posted by fair share on Fri, Feb 8, 2019, at 12:27 PM
  • Laz, this is a quote of what he said.

    “In this particular example, if a mother is in labor, I can tell you exactly what would happen,” Northam said. “The infant would be delivered. The infant would be kept comfortable. The infant would be resuscitated if that’s what the mother and the family desired, and then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother.”

    A born alive infant being kept comfortable, and a "discussion" between mom and doctor.

    In the sad example you posted, no "discussion" would be necessary.

    -- Posted by quietmike on Fri, Feb 8, 2019, at 6:58 PM
  • Sui the 2-15-19 date is a week away. You ready to play the moron again????

    -- Posted by Blessed Assurance on Fri, Feb 8, 2019, at 7:55 PM
  • In the sad example I posted we did not have the sort of technology we have today. While that technology can provide miracles, it also presents us with difficult choices. "Resuscitated" does not imply born alive, or if technically born alive being able to sustain life. Those same choices may have to be faced by a family at any point in life.A lot of us eventually face the decision of when it is time to bring a parent home to be with the family at the end. These are not decisions the government needs to make for us.

    -- Posted by lazarus on Sat, Feb 9, 2019, at 12:47 AM
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    "Resuscitated" also does not imply born dead or being unable to sustain life. Some newborns have a slow heartbeat and have to have a minute or two of CPR. Some have a good heartbeat but are a little blue and need ventilation assistance for a bit. Some are floppy because their sugar is low and doesn't support the respiratory or circulatory system and they need iv glucose. And believe it or not, some may just need a slap on the a$$ to stimulate them. These are all (except maybe the last) examples of resuscitation. Northam may or may not have been thinking of these common resuscitation scenarios when he used that term. But the fact is even the most healthy just born baby needs the care and support of someone else for a long time. Sometimes 30 or 50 or more years. And the other fact is that even if Northam wasn't thinking of these cases you can be sure some are. Bonus fact: "post birth abortion" isn't a gross misrepresentation of what Governor Blackface was talking about. Not even a tiny bit misrepresentation.

    -- Posted by fair share on Sat, Feb 9, 2019, at 8:58 AM
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