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Steve Mills

Here is something for the Democrat leadership (minus 1) to show how much they go by the LAW.

Posted Friday, February 7, 2020, at 11:47 AM
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  • Nobody is above the law except Democrats and illegal aliens.

    -- Posted by cmcclanahan on Fri, Feb 7, 2020, at 4:12 PM
  • If Hillary didn't get prosecuted.....

    -- Posted by quietmike on Fri, Feb 7, 2020, at 5:25 PM
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    Yes she broke the law. No she won't be prosecuted. But if Trump has many more wins next week, she might have a full scale public break down. I think all her lip smacking during the SOTU may have been tardive dyskinesia, which is a side effect of many of the antipsychotic drugs.

    -- Posted by fair share on Fri, Feb 7, 2020, at 11:48 PM
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    If you kept up with all of Trumps tweets you had to have read the one where Trump said "Bye" to Hillary Clinton. She was arrested in December, 2018 and executed in Feb., 2019. The Hillary you are seeing is a look-a-like. Can you not see how much younger she looks and her skin is smooth and not hanging. If Hillary was alive and looked that good, she would be running for President. However, Joe Biden made the remark that he wanted Michelle Obama to run as his mate so she could take over as president immediately because he was an old man. Why would Joe Biden say that if he is going to spend all that money running for President? Because Joe Biden is in Prison and can't be the President no more than Hillary's look-a-like. Obama and Michael have been executed also, so I have been told.

    It is all a show put on by actors and actresses.

    Did you notice that Trump didn't shake hands with Pelosi? Trump saw something in her hand and changed his mind about shaking her hand. The Secret Service kept Trump from shaking hands with Justice Roberts by pulling his hand back. Both Pelosi and Roberts had some kind of powder on them or in their hand.

    The patriots have cleaned out about 2 thirds of the Deep Underground Military Bases and located several more. To date they number 206 DUMBS from the original number of 133. That is just in the United States or I mean UNDER the United States. They are blowing them up and causing several earthquakes all over the USA.

    Pelosi said every political leader should obey and protect the Constitution when she was talking about Trump, yet the democrats don't honor and obey the constitution. They are trying to impeach a sitting President against the constitution. The constitution says the Electoral voters elect the president in Article II section 1, not the popular vote. They don't like that because they have been lied to by the deep state, the same people they work for. They actually thought the people voted the president into office. The people only vote for mayors, senators, representatives, Mayor and Governors etc. on the local level. The Presidential election is just for show to make you think your vote counts.

    Think about it! If Russia interfered with the Election or Ukraine interfered with our Election, or Hilliary's emails interfered with our election why didn't the Electoral Voters know anything about the interference? They are the ones who voted Trump into Office, not the people.

    Even all the illegal aliens couldn't change the Election because their votes were counted as popular votes that do not vote anyone in the Office of the President. Only judges, Mayors, Senators, Representatives, Commissioners, Sheriffs, etc. are voted into Office by the people. Only the Electoral Voters can vote the President into Office.

    So you should all be able to see that for the past 3 an a half years our Congress, Senate, White House, and Justice department has just been spend money for no reason at all investigating all this bull sh it for years, including the impeachment. Only thing getting done is destroying the deep state, arresting Human Traffickers, CEOs and Gov Resignations and suicides, Global Currency Reset, closing the Central Banks and IMF and Federal Reserve. Going underground and cleaning all the Deep State Operatives out by arresting them or blowing them up in BUMBs, high building or underwater tunnels, stopping wars, getting peace between Israel and Palistine, Breaking and Making Contracts that make America #1, helping the economy, etc., etc.. Trump has been a very busy guy. TRUMP is feared by all the democrat and for good reasons. That is why they are desperate to impeach him or assassinate him.

    -- Posted by sui on Sat, Feb 8, 2020, at 2:28 AM
  • The issue (law) is not the issue. Power is the issue. It is obvious. There are numerous examples of the Democrats breaking or ignoring the law, especially in the Obama administration.

    It is a good thing, in my opinion, that Trump is being held under close scrutiny. If only they would hold ALL presidents under such scrutiny. If only they would enforce current laws.

    The economy is doing very well. Of that, there is no doubt. However, with such a good economy, I think it is revealing that Trump or no one else, is talking about reducing the $20+ Trillion dollar debt. Most people having a windfall of cash, will work on reducing their debts or at least saving for a rainy day.

    The absence of a debt reduction plan tells me that we are seeing business as usual. Perhaps it is all just a show with Trump, Pelosi, and the rest being just the current cast of characters. Trump, while stating he opposes Socialism, actually purposes increasing socialist types of programs.

    Socialism NEVER works because it destroys the incentive for people to work and be able to enjoy the benefits of their labor. Socialism does not spred/share wealth. It spreds/shares misery. Socialism does however, transfer power to the government. There is a saying "You can vote your way into Socialism, but you have to shoot your way out."

    Socialism brings financial ruin. It is only because of Capitalism that socialist type programs can be afforded. When "The Law"'s power is misplaced injustice reigns.

    The issue is power, having the country in increasingly deeper debt, transfers power. This is the one constant regardless of political party.

    -- Posted by Liveforlight on Sat, Feb 8, 2020, at 7:38 AM
  • The official transcript was recorded in the Congressional Record. Nancy had a copy of the speech. She did not destroy an official document.

    -- Posted by tcreek on Sat, Feb 8, 2020, at 9:12 AM
  • I thought it was a signed copy which makes it an official copy and therefore applicable. Maybe not. Anyone know?

    Stopping too much socialism would probably bring revolt or bolster the Socialist movement. While he came in like a Lion, I think he need to govern a little more like the Lamb. (A TOUGH ram maybe?)

    -- Posted by stevemills on Sat, Feb 8, 2020, at 10:10 AM
  • I have also learned that Pelosi is up for re-election in her district of San Francisco which might explain her actions better. Knowing a bit about the folks in San Francisco, she may be playing to her local constituents to get re-elected.

    -- Posted by stevemills on Sat, Feb 8, 2020, at 7:00 PM
  • However, firing of Vindman and his brother by Trump is a federal crime.

    -- Posted by tcreek on Sat, Feb 8, 2020, at 8:19 PM
  • How is that a federal crime. Don’t they work at the pleasure of the President? There was talk about him being undependable from his bosses so there was probably enough reason to fire. Trumps error was in keeping him in the first place.

    From the AG report (inner pages) I would not be surprised if Trump fires ALL leftovers. The report said the FBI had informants (spy’s) working inside even before the election.

    -- Posted by stevemills on Sat, Feb 8, 2020, at 9:07 PM
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    For your information Trump said he was going to default on the Deficit because it was created fraudulently and the people would get checks when it is done. If you kept up with all the illegal things that the deep state has done over the years you would know where Trump is going with his presidency. He is going to do things you never dreamed of and is doing them right now in the open and no one is watching. Trump is amazing.

    Trump did not fire all the left overs because he wanted the enemy close to him so he could watch what they were doing how they done it and with whom they are doing it with. Do you think all those resignations were for show? Some were placed in much needed positions in Gitmo, Attorney Generals. prosecuting Generals. Trump went in office with a slue of Generals just for the clean up in the swamp and all over the world, not just the good ole USA.

    When the mass arrests start Pelosi will be arrested with the best of them. No re-election for her.

    Attorney Barr, Durham, Sessions, Interim Attorney General of District of Columbia, Shea. It has all been planned and executed. The Grand Juries all over America has written Sealed Indictments to be served when trump gives the word. Do you think the Democrats can start a coup against Trump and not get punished? Do you think the Main Stream Media can talk about Trump and encourage people to turn against him won't be punished?

    Nothing can stop what is coming!

    -- Posted by sui on Sun, Feb 9, 2020, at 12:07 AM
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    Shall We Play a Game? Where are they now?

    [Ref: public optics: 'retired' 'left' refers to 'fired/forced']

    FEDERAL BUREAU OF "INVESTIGATION"

    James Comey, Director - FIRED

    Andrew McCabe, Deputy Dorector - FIRED

    Jim Rybicki, Chief of Staff and Senior Counselor - FIRED

    JAmes Baker, General Counsel - FIRED

    Bill Priestap, Director of Counterintelligence (Strzok's boss) - FIRED

    Peter Strzok, Deputy Assistant Director of Counterintelligence - FIRED

    Lisa Page, Office of General Counsel - FIRED

    Mike Kortan, Assistant Director for Public Affairs - FIRED

    Josh Campbell, Special Assistant to Comey - FIRED

    Michael Steinbach - Head of Nat Sec Div - FIRED

    John Glacalone - (Predecessor to Steinbach) - Head of NAT SEC Div - FIRED

    James Turgal - Assistant Director - FIRED

    Greg Bower - Top Congressional Liaison - FIRED

    Trisha Anderson - Principle Deputy General Counsel - FIRED

    I would say Trump can FIRE anyone he wants to.

    -- Posted by sui on Sun, Feb 9, 2020, at 12:13 AM
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    Better than that is :

    “Half the people involved in the Russian investigation are going to jail.”

    Just a lie like I said in the very beginning of the Russian Investigation and all the way up to this moment.

    -- Posted by sui on Sun, Feb 9, 2020, at 12:17 AM
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    No, tcreek, the "firing" of mr vindman and the other mr vindman is not a federal crime. Anyone working at the White House or on behalf of the President serves at the President's pleasure. He can fire them for any or no reason. He had plenty of reason to can vindman. And being vindman's brother was enough reason for the second one. There are plenty more that need to be shown the door. I hope next up is eric ciaramella, the alleged "whistleblower".

    Sui, are you sure that isn't just an actress playing the part of ninny pewlosi? I figured the real one had to have been at Gitmo or executed by now.

    -- Posted by fair share on Sun, Feb 9, 2020, at 12:29 AM
  • I'd love to see the US Code that prevents the president from firing his staff.

    -- Posted by quietmike on Sun, Feb 9, 2020, at 2:44 AM
  • Witness retaliation is illegal.

    -- Posted by tcreek on Sun, Feb 9, 2020, at 7:22 AM
  • I thought it was a signed copy which makes it an official copy and therefore applicable. Maybe not. Anyone know?

    Stopping too much socialism would probably bring revolt or bolster the Socialist movement. While he came in like a Lion, I think he need to govern a little more like the Lamb. (A TOUGH ram maybe?)

    -- Posted by stevemills on Sun, Feb 9, 2020, at 11:22 AM
  • Socialist revolt? What is a $27 billion farmer bailout, and a $10 billion coal miner pension fund bailout called? Socialism.

    -- Posted by tcreek on Sun, Feb 9, 2020, at 3:01 PM
  • If you are referring to my last post above tcreek I acknowledge that some socialistic programs are continuing to avoid a cultural shock. Some plans I support as well. Supporting agriculture is one of them.

    -- Posted by stevemills on Sun, Feb 9, 2020, at 4:25 PM
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    Food stamps is socialism, welfare, bailing out the auto Industry, Bailing out the fraudulent Banks is Socialism, but where would America be without helping out the poor. We would be a third world country if we let the people starve and do without work. A country has to take care of the poor or they are no better than the sh it hole countries. However there has to be a line between helping people and making slaves out of them.

    SOCIALISM IS COMMUNISM and lately this Country has been going more and more Communist. The Bar association is funded by the Communists. It only takes one witness (woman or man) to bring accusations against a man and his life is ruined. He loses his family, friends, job, and assets. And the (one Witness) doesn't even have to be a real person any more. We are suppose to take the word of an unknown person who doesn't have to come forth with real evidence. A police officer can charge you with any made up crime he wants to and if you don't object to it, you could go to jail or even prison.

    Tell me we aren't living in a Communist run Country. Hopefully, when Trump steps down as the President in a couple years there won't be room in this Common Law Land for Communism and Socialism.

    -- Posted by sui on Sun, Feb 9, 2020, at 5:05 PM
  • Witness retaliation (18 USC 1513) only applies to witnesses who provide truthful evidence, and intent must be shown that the retaliation was because of their testimony.

    That means leftys fail on two counts, as none of the witnesses gave direct testimony based on first hand information, only supposition, and Trump didn't give any indication as to why they were fired.

    -- Posted by quietmike on Sun, Feb 9, 2020, at 5:46 PM
  • Trump implemented revenge on Vindman and his twin brother, who did nothing, and Sondland. Vindman and Sondland were leaving, but Trump insisted on making an example. It is obvious. But, it does not matter, because from now on Trump will be able to get away with anything.

    -- Posted by tcreek on Sun, Feb 9, 2020, at 8:55 PM
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    Trump isn't able to get away with everything. He is able, despite 24/7 insane levels of demonrat resistance, to get away with making America great again.

    -- Posted by fair share on Mon, Feb 10, 2020, at 5:52 AM
  • You'd think lefties would learn a lesson, after a half-dozen baseless accusations have blown up in their face. Instead, they grasp for the next made up story with the spastic energy of a junkie reaching for a syringe.

    -- Posted by quietmike on Mon, Feb 10, 2020, at 7:35 AM
  • I see Trumps policies and hear his rhetoric, and I want nothing to do with him or his administration. He is now unleashed, he is dangerous.

    -- Posted by tcreek on Mon, Feb 10, 2020, at 11:06 AM
  • Why do you think he is "unleashed" tcreek? The press will certainly watch him like a hawk and I can't imagine the Democrats not jumping on the slightest misstep.

    -- Posted by stevemills on Mon, Feb 10, 2020, at 11:17 AM
  • Steve; Tearing the speech in half was childish and stupid. But how in the world you can believe it was a "crime" is beyond me. This was not some official record needing to be maintained, altho if it is maintained somewhere, the thousand (or thousands) of copies floating around do not all have to be preserved for all time. If every piece of paper that was produced in Washington had to be preserved for all time, the resulting mound of paper from a single year would be visible from space.... and probably would have completely buried the city a century ago.

    Actually, I was responsible for the archives of a government entity for some years. There are specific laws regarding what was to be kept, and for what length of time. Nowhere on that list was a speech. The only way to keep control of the sheer volume of paper was to have a regular maintenance program. Current year records were filed and stored, and at the end of the year, those things requiring long term storage were filed in the long term storage, and those records whose required period of maintenance had passed were discarded. Actually, we shredded all that paper and sold it for recycling, putting money in the treasury that did not have to be taken from the taxpayers.

    Just reading the law you posted, it should be obvious that it does not apply to handouts at the speech. As if common sense and logic does not make it obvious enough.

    -- Posted by lazarus on Mon, Feb 10, 2020, at 1:00 PM
  • Aw come on, do I always have to be logical with these posts? I would never get any responses. :-)

    My understanding was that it was a signed document which it would seem logical is more than JUST a copy. If it wasn't, then much ado about nothing. That is why I raised the question.

    -- Posted by stevemills on Mon, Feb 10, 2020, at 1:21 PM
  • Most government docuements aren't required by the constitution.

    -- Posted by quietmike on Mon, Feb 10, 2020, at 3:08 PM
  • I see Trumps policies and hear his rhetoric, and I want nothing to do with him or his administration. He is now unleashed, he is dangerous.

    -- Posted by tcreek

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    You should instead look at his results. That's something lefties never want to address. Only how they feeeel.

    The DNC should be paying royalties to Morris Albert for the first five words of his biggest song.

    -- Posted by quietmike on Mon, Feb 10, 2020, at 3:11 PM
  • I have. My statement stands.

    -- Posted by tcreek on Mon, Feb 10, 2020, at 4:03 PM
  • "The press will certainly watch him like a hawk and I can't imagine the Democrats not jumping on the slightest misstep." I agree. However, Trump has no sense of right or wrong, only power. Republicans will not curtail him, much less punish him for the most egregious offenses. Republican politicians are afraid of him. Republican voters enable him. Trump has a cult like following. He is dangerous.

    -- Posted by tcreek on Mon, Feb 10, 2020, at 4:47 PM
  • I have. My statement stands.

    -- Posted by tcreek

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    So you oppose record unemployment, 7 million open jobs, trade deals more fair to the US, lower taxes and regulations, having NATO members paying (part of) their fair share, and controlling immigration?

    -- Posted by quietmike on Mon, Feb 10, 2020, at 5:27 PM
  • I have my list. It gets longer each day.

    -- Posted by tcreek on Mon, Feb 10, 2020, at 7:08 PM
  • Are you gonna share it, or is being cryptic part of your shtick?

    -- Posted by quietmike on Mon, Feb 10, 2020, at 8:19 PM
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    Dang, quietmike, how can anyone expect us to live under those marvelous conditions of which you speak? I guess some people may see how good things are and just can't believe their eyes.

    -- Posted by fair share on Mon, Feb 10, 2020, at 8:41 PM
  • Keep in mind folks that tcreek is new so let’s not blow him/her out with sarcasm. I would really like to know what egregious things Mr. Trump has done in their eyes.

    We’re not going to get much meaningful dialog of we call names or make fun of their ideas.

    Before you start tcreek I will acknowledge that in my eyes he does not have (at least in public) the suave demeanor of JFK. He apparently appreciates women but it is a different day (regrettably). JFK and society allowed him to be, more discreet.

    When he boasts and cusses, I cringe but is it really any different than what we see/hear all day in today’s society. Again, regrettably.

    That said, can we talk about what he has really done and not what people “think” he plans to do. That was a big part of the impeachment, what people divined his intentions were with nothing concrete. If it had been concrete there were enough Republicans to switch their vote.

    -- Posted by stevemills on Mon, Feb 10, 2020, at 9:08 PM
  • Trump does not like dogs and he cheats at golf. It goes downhill from there.

    -- Posted by tcreek on Mon, Feb 10, 2020, at 9:10 PM
  • While I agree that Socialism has already gotten its tentacles into our government, that certainly isn't justification for its increase. In fact, it is indicative of the problem which is manifesting itself throughout our nation.

    Socialism ALWAYS fails! A primary indicator is looming in the form of the national debt!

    Lets take farming subsidies for example:

    The government subsidizes farmers, or more accurately, landowners. Tax dollars are used to pay farmers who are losing money, or many cases not farming at all. In fact tax dollars are doled out to pay farmers/landowners to NOT farm. Thereby sending our tax dollars to rich landowners, who through government subsidies, are able to buy more land to NOT farm. SMH

    So, what is the justification for farm subsidies? The main reason is because the government interferes in the market prices through commodities exchange regulations.

    The justification for this government control is to keep grocery prices low. Everyone likes the grocery prices to be low, but what that don't realize is that their taxes are higher in order to pay the subsidies.

    To keep prices low, means that farmers must sell their products at government regulated prices. These prices are often below the cost of production which will ultimately drive the farmers into bankruptcy.

    So, the government provides subsidies to keep the farms viable. Additionally, the programs such as welfare and SNAP are funded through the same mechanism.

    Of course the extra taxes are not all applied to the farmers. They are squandered, and basically stolen by land speculators who have no intention of farming, but buy the land and receive a nice government check. Thus the deficit spending and a ballooning national debt.

    If only farmers could sell their product at the actual production costs., and the consumer didn't have the government taking away their money., money they need to buy groceries, even at a higher price. Then, the overall cost would be reduced because the bureaucrats who have inserted themselves into the chain between consumer and producer would be eliminated.

    These type of mechanisms/scams is why Socialism ALWAYS FAILS! The U.S. will be no different. It's just a matter of time. Once the interest on the debt reaches the point that the government can no longer fund its liabilities, we will be bankrupt and all these programs will come to an end.

    -- Posted by Liveforlight on Mon, Feb 10, 2020, at 10:10 PM
  • Come on now tcreek, I was counting on you to gives us a thought out critic of Mr. Trump.

    Liveforlight I know the farm programs you refer to about not farming. That one I don’t like and thought it would have been gone by now.

    As I understood it, they paid to stop farmers from flooding the market with a particular commodity like soybeans. The free market would say GROW SOMETHING ELSE of the market is flooded, but....

    The support I agree with is helping with crop failures and weather related catastrophes. The only other support is extension services that provide technical assistance and keeping farmer’s (real farmers) taxes low.

    I HATE to see the large land auctions that break it up into subdivision lots.

    -- Posted by stevemills on Mon, Feb 10, 2020, at 11:09 PM
  • Thought out critique???

    Lazarus said he didn't think the types of things listed above made a good president, and he'd give his metrics for a good president, when he was less busy.

    That was a year and a half ago.

    I've seen little indication that lefties are capable of independent thought, instead preferring to repeat their programming. Might be why socialism appeals to them.

    -- Posted by quietmike on Tue, Feb 11, 2020, at 4:34 AM
  • I know quite a few folks who are more liberal than conservative and quite independent thinkers. Many in Facebook may not qualify for that statement, or at least the ones who use anger and hatred as their main discussion points. I rarely participate in any political discussions there for that exact reason.

    -- Posted by stevemills on Tue, Feb 11, 2020, at 7:18 AM
  • A released audio from 2015 shows Bloomberg saying almost all murders are committed by blacks, and they should be thrown against the wall and frisked to make sure they're disarmed

    https://breakthematrix.com/bloomberg-campaign-finished-audio-leaked-blacks-commi...

    Will liberals use their righteous indignation at his racism, or will they give him a pass like governor blackface?

    -- Posted by quietmike on Tue, Feb 11, 2020, at 9:25 AM
  • -- Posted by tcreek on Tue, Feb 11, 2020, at 12:19 PM
  • Thanks for completely dodging the question, and proving my earlier point.

    -- Posted by quietmike on Tue, Feb 11, 2020, at 5:28 PM
  • He will probably get a pass since he “apologized” but while I do not support the man for president, I felt the difference in NYC when I walked the streets. Regrettably it started slipping.

    I have no problem with Stop and frisk if an officer suspects someone. There are ways to monitor that. Bloomberg targeted the blacks. Trump said to leave it up to the officers. I see a difference in that.

    -- Posted by stevemills on Tue, Feb 11, 2020, at 6:02 PM
  • Stop and frisk, or a Terry Stop, has been legal since the 1968 SCOTUS ruling. Throwing them against a wall isn't part of that search.

    No doubt he'll get a pass. Dems have a 13 term congressman who was impeached and removed as a federal judge for soliciting bribes.

    They re-elected a mayor after he was seen smoking crack on camera.

    They had no problem when Barney Frank and his boyfriend were running a prostitution ring out of Frank's residence.

    Dems' very selective outrage is one more example of their hypocrisy.

    -- Posted by quietmike on Tue, Feb 11, 2020, at 8:27 PM
  • Why do you think he is "unleashed" tcreek? Today, Trump intervened in the sentencing of Roger Stone. Four prosecutors resigned from the case. One resigned as a federal prosecutor. Today, Trump stated that the Pentagon should punish Vindman. This will continue.

    -- Posted by tcreek on Tue, Feb 11, 2020, at 9:29 PM
  • When Stone was prosecuted only because of information gained from improperly attained warrants, then that's fruit of the poisonous tree, and should be thrown out altogether.

    -- Posted by quietmike on Wed, Feb 12, 2020, at 5:59 AM
  • There is a no doubt that Mr. Trump is a “bull in a china closet” but that is what many of us wanted to flush out the “good old boy/girl” network, corruption and “enshrined” Federal officials in Washington.

    Expressing his opinion in an untraditional method (social media) is much more visible than the backroom methods used previously but have no doubt, those comments were being made as far back as our Republic’s formation. (in my opinion)

    I agree with the ”poisonous tree” observation. MOST of the “evidence” was illegally obtained and actually conjured to squeeze them into turning on Trump.

    Just part of the “weeping and gnashing of teeth” resulting from draining of the “swamp”.

    -- Posted by stevemills on Wed, Feb 12, 2020, at 7:38 AM
  • Trump is not draining any swamp. He could care less about effective government. He is consolidating his power. He wants to be a dictator, and he may achieve it because he will not be held accountable for anything he does.

    -- Posted by tcreek on Wed, Feb 12, 2020, at 8:07 AM
  • How many dictators in history have cut taxes and regulations?

    -- Posted by quietmike on Wed, Feb 12, 2020, at 8:20 AM
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    The only power Trump is interested in consolidating is the power to make America better for all Americans. The BS about him being a dictator is as laughable as him being racist.

    -- Posted by fair share on Wed, Feb 12, 2020, at 8:45 AM
  • Trumps strong personality, suppression of his opponents, suppression of opposing thought, propaganda (Fox News) with a Trump cult following within the US - are all indicators of Trumps dictatorial desires. Tax cuts and cuts in regulations were used to give handouts to his minions, not stabilize a constitutional democracy. Trump is using his power to protect himself, as with the recent Roger Stone sentencing. Trump would put Hillary Clinton in prison, if he could get away with it. A dictator would do that.

    -- Posted by tcreek on Wed, Feb 12, 2020, at 9:54 AM
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    The tax cuts and deregulation were parts of his plan, including trade deals and other things, that has given all Americans a booming economy rarely seen before. And, tcreek, you can save your breath bellyaching about the economy. It isn't just Trump and his rich friends benefiting. Anyone with a retirement fund is better off. Blacks, Hispanics, and women are better off. Even many of the takers are better off because now many have the dignity of working to provide for themselves. Unemployment levels are at all time lows across the board. Income growth for the bottom tier is outpacing growth for the top tier.

    I know the liberal/socialist party line is to bemoan the terrible state of the economy. But anyone with unclouded eyes who just looks around can see it just ain't so.

    Point of clarification for tcreek: if you want to talk politics and the constitution it would be helpful if you new what you were talking about.

    "Tax cuts and cuts in regulations were used to give handouts to his minions, not stabilize a constitutional democracy."

    -- Posted by tcreek on Wed, Feb 12, 2020, at 9:54 AM

    The United States of America is not a constitutional democracy. We are a Constitutional Republic. Big difference. People that can understand this can also understand the Electoral College.

    -- Posted by fair share on Wed, Feb 12, 2020, at 10:32 AM
  • Please, talk facts not talking points. I would LOVE to consider the other side of this coin but just saying that he is consolidating power is not a bad thing to me. It is doing what is needed to get a job done, although I am not sure what power he is consolidating.

    Using the word dictator is a Democratic talking point, along with "he is cheating" or whatever term their polling companies say is trending. WHAT makes them think he qualifies for being called a dictator?

    What is being held accountable? If what he does is not prosecutable. then it may be an irritation to his opponents, but it is only something they can use for political trash talk. Personally, I think we allow too much leniency in what political opponents or action committees can say about others without being accountable.

    I noticed one of Bernie Sander's political adds saying Mr. Trump has abandoned the working class. How, by getting them more jobs, or because he is not creating more handouts without having to work or be responsible?

    What is Bernie going to do that does not involve sucking more from working people? It won't be JUST from the "rich" and when you suck from the rich do you not think it passes down some way?

    -- Posted by stevemills on Wed, Feb 12, 2020, at 10:32 AM
  • While I don't think Hillary will ever go to prison, I do believe their is more "shine" to come off. Going to prison might be a death sentence since she would have to commit suicide. Sarcasm? Yes and no. Just an observation from past happenings to people who ran in her clique. I don't think the Clintons are really in charge of that.

    I would suspect that anyone who becomes President will have to have a strong personality. President Carter was a really nice person but I do not see him as a strong personality and his presidency reflected that, in my opinion.

    Do we think that the Democrats do not try to suppress their opponents or opposing thoughts? You can bet your bippy they do. (I had to look up bippy to see current interpretation of that before I used it)

    PROPOGANDA, propaganda! I always thought that the Democrats were the consummate practitioners of this. Fox News might seem like an arm of the Right but what do you call all the rest of National News media, college instructors, and the entertainment industry in general? They are just by chance liberal but not a propaganda arm of the Left?

    I am not sure that tax cuts and reduced regulations were ever aimed at stabilizing a constitutional Republic. I believe they were aimed at enhancing the economy, which in turn provides more jobs, which in turn enhances family stability and provides emotional well being, and more.

    Trump is using his power to protect himself, from the demonic attack from the Left dating back to his announcement that he was running for President. Have you EVER known of a president under more fire, more scrutiny, more diabolical schemes to unseat him by his opponents and even departments of the US government (think FBI)? More will come out about this effort as investigations wrap up. (Sui, I am starting to sound like you!)

    -- Posted by stevemills on Wed, Feb 12, 2020, at 10:56 AM
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    They wised up to Yang. I am confident the people will also wise up to burney.

    https://babylonbee.com/news/yang-campaign-collapses-when-its-revealed-hed-pay-fo...

    -- Posted by fair share on Wed, Feb 12, 2020, at 10:57 AM
  • Apparently I need to wait for others to respond, since you cover my points so well. :-)

    -- Posted by stevemills on Wed, Feb 12, 2020, at 10:58 AM
  • -- Posted by stevemills on Wed, Feb 12, 2020, at 11:04 AM
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    Well, Steve, Nashville is fun but it is starting down that path to Portland. Sad. 😒

    -- Posted by fair share on Wed, Feb 12, 2020, at 11:47 AM
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    stevemills. You are just now starting to wake up with all the information coming out from the investigations. You have a long ways to go before you understand what I know, but you are waking up. That is what it is all about. Trump is waking the people up so they won't be as SHOCKED when the Mass Arrests begin of the Politicians.

    You don't see much of Hillary Clinton any more and then just minor stuff to make you think it is Hillary.

    Hillary and Bil Clinton have been arrested, tried and executed. Hillary went out the way she made for herself. They prevented her from eating a cooked children and drinking their blood. This is what killed Hillary. The lack of this blood and human tissue from children to make her look younger and smarter actually made her incurable disease kill her. Her body had to have this blood to live. The Gitmo prison didn't provide Hillary with any of this blood and let her die. Even that was too good for her. Pelosi will suffer the same death if she can't face the Military tribunal.

    A lot of these political criminals have already been tried and wearing ankle bracelets. They are allowed to get out if they do as they are told.

    Pelosi was told to bring the impeachment so he could be exonerated and the trial would bring out the truth for the people to digest.

    -- Posted by sui on Wed, Feb 12, 2020, at 3:42 PM
  • Tax cuts and cuts in regulations were used to give handouts to his minions, not stabilize a constitutional democracy.

    -- Posted by tcreek

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    A liberal bemoaning anyone about giving handouts to his minions is richer than three feet up a bull's rear end,as that's all the left offers.

    -- Posted by quietmike on Wed, Feb 12, 2020, at 6:09 PM
  • Let's not stifle the conversation. At least we are hearing some opinions from another side.

    -- Posted by stevemills on Wed, Feb 12, 2020, at 6:39 PM
  • No stifling intended, but the idea of a tax cut as a handout is absurd, as it's literally letting them keep their own money, as opposed to actual freebies, where you're given someone else's money.

    -- Posted by quietmike on Wed, Feb 12, 2020, at 9:41 PM
  • Good point about keeping their own, earned money. I actually ended up paying mote tax than ever before but all I did was look harder for legal tax deductions and pay up.

    -- Posted by stevemills on Thu, Feb 13, 2020, at 7:30 AM
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