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Georgia's new, creative way of surviving the drought
Posted Thursday, February 21, 2008, at 10:47 PM
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Georgia legislators have come up with a new and exciting way of overcoming their drought. They're trying to take a mile of Tennessee so that they can hook into the Tennessee River and suck the water out of there for Atlanta, rather than the Chattahoochee River (which must have dried up due to it being hotter than a "hoochie-coochie").

Seriously though, it seems as though Georgia state Senator David Shafer has introduced a bill that would create a boundary line commission to rectify an error made in 1818 (yep, one hundred and ninety years ago) that "allegedly" placed the boundary line between TN and GA 1.1 miles south of where it should have been. "Who made this error?", you might ask. One James Camak, surveyor commissioned by the Great State of Georgia in 1818. If this wacko were to get his way, they would have the state line moved 1.1 miles north. This would mean that the residents of Tennessee that live within this range would become residents of Georgia (and subject to GA's income tax).

As much as I dislike the current Governor of TN, Phil Bredesen, I have to agree with his reaction to this news: "This is a joke, right?"


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I too thought it was rather creative. I suggest we look at the other states surrounding us and see if there is anything we might like. Anyone think Kentucky would give up part of Land between the Lakes?

-- Posted by Sharon22 on Thu, Feb 21, 2008, at 11:05 PM

Nah, wait until they put in the casinos, then it'll REALLY be worth taking from 'em. On a lighter note, if the southern boundary of TN were to be changed, Mississippi would get a decent little chunk of Memphis. That wouldn't be so bad, would it?

Also, would this mean that everyone that lives in that part of the state would be eligible for a refund of the property taxes that they've paid? Of course, they would have to pay back state income taxes. Mississippi has a VERY confusing form for their income tax.

-- Posted by Thom on Thu, Feb 21, 2008, at 11:33 PM

I actually first thought of Memphis, but figured there would be a fight over which side actually wanted to keep Memphis or give it away. I wonder if Arkansas or Mississippi would be willing to take Memphis on?

-- Posted by Sharon22 on Thu, Feb 21, 2008, at 11:55 PM

Seeing the Georgia lawmakers pull these stupid tricks makes me realize that our lawmakers here in Tennessee are not that bad . . . just look south of our border and you will see true stupidity in motion.

Of course, they are arguing with Florida and another state about water issues so they definitely not making friends around them.

-- Posted by jaxspike on Fri, Feb 22, 2008, at 7:38 AM

Would this not fall under the adverse possession? What is this Senator's reason for doing this? Either he is wacko or he or someone close to him has a vested interest somewhere.

-- Posted by stevemills on Fri, Feb 22, 2008, at 10:03 AM

It seems to me that no matter what all of these senators and governors want these days, they will get it. Somehow, someway, they will get it no matter what kinds of meetings or voting is done. They obviously have "all" of our tax-paying dollars and they use it however they see fit. Who is Phil Bredeson to laugh and say "Is this a joke?" to anyone after the waste of "our money" he is using to build his entertainment hall at his mansion! I hear on the news every night how they have all of this extra money in this or that account. It sickens me because most Tennesseans are struggling to make ends meet......and we're going to be out of water!

-- Posted by jkelley on Fri, Feb 22, 2008, at 10:49 AM

Let's put all the nuclear waste stored at Oak Ridge on part of the line. Then, lets build some landfills and prisons. (Not next to the nuclear waste..got to protect those prisoners.)

If you can pull yourself out of the sarcasm above...

Didn't they say that TN would have to agree? I don't think that will happen.

-- Posted by Jacks4me on Fri, Feb 22, 2008, at 10:59 AM

You know, if every state were to go back in time like Georgia did, then the boundaries for all the states would probably have to be changed.

If the Courts allow this, what else will they allow?

-- Posted by puppydinks on Fri, Feb 22, 2008, at 12:47 PM

Supposedly the "rules" are that both states would have to approve of the change and the U.S. Congress would have to vote and agree with it as well. However, if the original boundary (as set by Congress) was to be the 35th parallel, then that is (and always has been) the boundary for Georgia and Tennessee. Unless the state legislatures from both states and the U.S. Congress have agreed to the current location of the border. I think this will end up in the Supreme Court if Georgia decides to push it. If this issue does go that far, I would lay odds on Georgia getting the state line moved.

Even though I think it is totally ridiculous, "technically" Georgia is right. Granted, they should have taken steps to correct this over a century ago.

-- Posted by Thom on Fri, Feb 22, 2008, at 1:56 PM

I think this should be decided by the people who will be influenced most on any decision of this . . . the people who live in that area in dispute. Let them decide which state they want to be in . . . of course, most of those people would vote Tennessee because of Georgia's state income tax. LOL!

-- Posted by jaxspike on Fri, Feb 22, 2008, at 2:35 PM

We could decide to honor some of our treaties with the Indians while we're at it.

Or,we could use our experience with native Americans to forcibly relocate all the tacky people from our state to the Georgia section.

(You know who I mean,the people who even scare the tabloid talk show hosts and think Paris,Tennessee and Hilton Head were named after current celebrities.)

Georgia would have to extend MARTA all the way through our state at their expense to pay us for looking after their property.

They'd be setting an interesting precedent.

-- Posted by quantumcat on Fri, Feb 22, 2008, at 4:32 PM

I still think we should see if we could get Land between the Lakes from Kentucky and trade away Memphis.

-- Posted by Sharon22 on Sat, Feb 23, 2008, at 12:34 AM

And give up Beale Street and Elvis???????

-- Posted by quantumcat on Sat, Feb 23, 2008, at 8:33 AM

Maybe we could keep Beale street and Elvis and give away the rest?

-- Posted by Sharon22 on Sat, Feb 23, 2008, at 9:33 AM

I've lived in Tennessee and Georgia; believe me, the Georgia income tax is far more affordable than the high sales taxes in Tennessee.

I think if you do some research, the Tennessee River has the most dams of any river in the United States. The state of Alabama has more river water backed up than any other state in the Union, yet Alabama cries foul when Georgia wants to dam a creek. While Georgia needs water to survive, Alabama complains that during droughts their lakes might be lowered enough so that water skiing would be jeopardized; go figure.

If some climatologists are correct about global warming and the increase of droughts, could it be that the next civil war will be over water?

-- Posted by dmcg on Sat, Feb 23, 2008, at 8:10 PM

Yes..It is a big JOKE..I heard it for the 1st time this morning on the news...They want our land and our water..HaHaHa..I thought we were low on water also..Look at Tim Ford Lake..Not looking to good...I will agree with Phil on this one..But this also gives me the chance to tell Mr. Phil that the underground dinning area to sit 165 people is STUPID...That is all I have to say.

-- Posted by rebelrose on Sat, Feb 23, 2008, at 11:29 PM

Yes..It is a big JOKE..I heard it for the 1st time this morning on the news...They want our land and our water..HaHaHa..I thought we were low on water also..Look at Tim Ford Lake..Not looking to good...I will agree with Phil on this one..But this also gives me the chance to tell Mr. Phil that the underground dinning area to sit 165 people is STUPID...That is all I have to say.

-- Posted by rebelrose on Sat, Feb 23, 2008, at 11:31 PM

They might try the underground bit on public housing,schools,businesses,parking garages,etc. first.

Then people could see how it reduced temperature extremes,provided more greenspace,reduced run-off,improved air quality,etc.

After that,people might have fewer qualms about structures that were subterranian or earth-sheltered that did not interfere with the land,old-growth trees and other vintage resources.

Even the shelter programs on cable have shown homes with basketball courts underground.

If one must dig up land to build something,why not plan on doing so in a way that crops,trees,or even other buildings could continue to thrive above it?

Done responsibly and with sensitivity to history,aesthetics,practicality and ecology,that could encourage other nature-friendly projects.

Otherwise,it's one more indulgence in a fad that discredits the ideas it claims to support.

-- Posted by quantumcat on Sun, Feb 24, 2008, at 4:34 AM

I have friends and relatives living in Maryland and believe me, high sales taxes are much more affordable than mandatory state income taxes!

In Maryland, expect to pay about 10% of your INCOME to the state, plus property taxes, sales taxes, and all the other "fees" that Maryland imposes.

I would much rather have some control, in the form of sales taxes (where the less I buy, the less taxes I pay) rather than FORCED to give the state 10% of my income right off the top!!

-- Posted by puppydinks on Sun, Feb 24, 2008, at 4:33 PM

Anybody catch Bob Corker's Quote the other day.

"When I was Mayor of Chattanooga, this issue never crossed my mind"

What IS going through his mind?

Like all politicians: Future Power & Money.

The interest of the American people: Phooey! The endless well.

OK Bob, give me a frontal lobotomy and I'll vote for you again!

-- Posted by framestraight on Sun, Feb 24, 2008, at 11:45 PM

An article in the Chattanooga Times Free Press, "Atlanta may only need 'big straw', Cavers say that the water captured from the Tennessee River flows underground into Georgia and Alabama so perhaps drilling and tapping into this groundwater source may be an option for Altanta?

The article can be found at the following link.

http://timesfreepress.com/news/2008/feb/23/atlanta...

-- Posted by daisy mae on Mon, Feb 25, 2008, at 11:17 AM

How interesting. BORDERS, We don't need no stinking borders. Might as well share with paying customers. Verily, verily, I say if you care to look there is as many illegal aliens as there are fire hydrants, and their stealing the water.

-- Posted by big daddy rabbit on Wed, Feb 27, 2008, at 4:16 PM


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