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Swine flu vaccination...is it more deadly than the virus?
Posted Friday, August 21, 2009, at 12:37 AM<< Previous | Read comments | Respond | Email link | Next >>
With school back in session, the "swine flu specter" is rearing it's ugly head again. There is talk in some states of requiring vaccination for this virus (I'm not sure if TN is one of these).
During the 1976 outbreak of the swine flu the government rushed to get a vaccination out. In their frenzy to release this vaccine, they caused 25 people to die from Guillain-Barre Syndrome. During this outbreak over 40 million Americans were vaccinated, 1 person died from the virus and 25 died from complications caused by the vaccine. The government is, yet again, in a rush to get a vaccine out there and is asking for "volunteers" to test this. The regular flu season generally kills more people than the swine-flu (H1N1) has. The Health Protection Agency of the United Kingdom has alerted neurologists to be on the lookout for an increase in Guillan-Barre Syndrome because of this vaccine. That tells me that they have SERIOUS concerns about the safety of this vaccine. PLEASE read the following article from the UK before "volunteering" for this vaccination: Comments Showing comments in chronological order [Show most recent comments first] |
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I am too young to remember the outbreak of 1976 or it's outcome, but a co-worker and I were discussing this at work the other night. The "vaccine folks" are recomending both the regular flu vaccine and the swine flu vaccine, and swine flu is a 2 part shot. I still have not read where the swine flu vaccine has even been tested, except that the government is looking for volunteers. I have as of yet to ever take a flu shot, and I am even more leary of taking the swine flu shot. I have had unusual side effects to well known medications and I don't think I want to be a guinea pig for any new medications.
Sharon - The REALLY scary part is that they're asking for people to volunteer their young children to be guinea pigs for their testing.
As for the "regular" flu shot, I had to have that one when I was in the Navy. I've also never had the flu except for the years that I did get the shot.
Here is another link I found interesting about the vaccine
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?c...
I don't know if you use twitter or not but I follow someone on there that gives all the news about the H1N1 and the vaccine.
They go by the id of FluWatcher2009 and they come up with some pretty interesting stuff.
Thank you for bringing this up. Everyone should know that the vaccine for H1N1,H1N2,and H2N3 are made by taking the cells infected with cancer from pigs and birds that have been exposed to each virus and putting them into shot form. The idea is that slowly exposing our immune system to this threat will strengthen us to be able to fight off the virus. But so far there has not been a successful trial for this vaccine. PLEASE DO NOT TAKE THIS VACCINE.... please go to infowars.com to read more
it must save a lot of shipping costs to make aluminum foil in tennessee.
lazarus
I don't think this has anything to do with tin foil. Personally I believe it is just reviewing the information that is out there. Which is something everyone should do whether you wear tin foil or not. Review the info and if you still think it is ok to take the shot then by all means take it. I for one don't even take the regular flu shot because it always makes me sick so I shall not be standing in line for the H1N1 shot.
Lazarus,
I'm not sure who your remark is intended towards, but I for one do make a decision concerning my health lightly. I have been involved in direct pt. care for many years and have as of yet to catch the flu. I have had a few bugs nail me through out the years, but not the flu bug. If they manage to develop a vaccine for the common cold, I just might be interested.
Lazarus - I suppose you've already volunteered for this vaccine test?
It's got nothing to do with tin-foil hats, it is a FACT that immediately following the vaccination in 1976, over 500 people that were vaccinated contracted Guillain-Barre Syndrome. Of these 500 cases, 25 died from the effects of GBS. Nobody knows what causes GBS and it's a fairly rare disorder (.6 to 1.9 cases per 100,000 people depending on the geographic region). Following this influenza vaccination, that rate jumped by approximately 1 extra case per 100,000 in those to which the vaccine was administered. It doesn't sound like much, but that's between a 52.6% and 166% increase depending on geographic region. That's a VERY significant increase statistically in a relatively controlled group.
Again, 25 people died from the vaccine and 1 person died from the virus. Personally, I'll take my chance with catching the virus...you take your chances with the vaccine.
Unless you have something productive to add to this, please don't bother replying. This isn't a political thing, this is simply FACTUAL data that I have relayed to the people that read this. If you don't believe it, do some research on your own. Maybe at least then you won't sound quite so ignorant.
no thom, i dont take the flu shots. never have. but i dont make decisions based on articles in the daily mail, or the national enquirer, or any other supermarket tabloid. how come you didnt add to your post the other critical bit of medical advice in that same issue of the daily mail, and warn everyone that sunscreen causes alzheimers?
Lazarus - Just because the article was in a tabloid doesn't mean it is totally wrong. That's why I did some RESEARCH and found my facts from reliable sources such as the Centers for Disease Control, The UK's National Health System, and The Australasian Society for Infectious Diseases before posting on here.
i had no doubt there were facts behind it. you are a smart guy, and tabloid articles are seldom devoid of "facts". but from a tabloid you can pretty well count on irresponsible journalism. this is a great example. all vaccinations have risks. all vaccinations. i am barely old enough to remember, altho i am sure there are readers with a good memory of what it was like before we had all these "dangerous" vaccinations. polio, pertussis, smallpox, measles, mumps, and a whole variety of diseases that left a swath of destruction to families and lives. but no matter what the overall effectiveness, every vaccination carries a risk.
in your example 40 million people were vaccinated. that would be heavily slanted towards the at-risk part of the population. 40 million at-risk members of the population will include a significant number of deaths from a variety of causes every year. they arent at-risk for nothing. 25 deaths, using your statistics, half to two thirds *possibly* related to the vaccine and 1 from the virus. that is called a resounding success compared to the potential toll with none of them taking the vaccine. how many deaths would have been expected from the same group unvaccinated? thousands? tens of thousands? hundreds of thousands? maybe a million? for an at-risk person to avoid the virus out of fear of G-B would be idiotic. frankly, given the numbers they deal with, i am pretty impressed that the disease control guys even picked up on this *possible* connection. setting out to follow up on that possibility is the only responsible course of action, and they are doing that. the science of disease control always has room for improvement. what irony that responsible actions are used to "discredit" them.
so why am i not taking the vaccination? 1) i am not part of the at-risk population. there are usually only so many doses available. it would be selfish to go after one of them. 2) i seem to be virtually immune to the flu. not catching it even in the face of direct & repeated exposure. 3) i hate shots. cowardice is a weak reason, but i have to confess that it figures in. so i am unlikely to get the flu, and almost certain to survive if i do. let me fall into the at-risk population some day, and i will be in line with everyone else.
to tell you the truth, i feel a certain sympathy for the disease control people in the first world. as the population's memory fades regarding what "epidemic" really means, success only makes their job more difficult. and as our population density grows, the inevitable failure of the system draws ever closer. and there will be another epidemic some day. facts intentionally misinterpreted by tabloid journalism (just to make a buck) only makes their task even more difficult. it is all too easy to forget that a "fact" is the most miniscule component of science. drawing conclusions based on 2 or 3 facts is impossible. there has to be an understanding of the underlying theoretical framework in which those facts fit.