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Where was the Times-Gazette?
Posted Monday, September 21, 2009, at 10:13 PM
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There's an election in three weeks.

There are currently 49 Republicans, 48 Democrats, and 1 "Carter County Republican" (I'm still not sure what that's supposed to mean) in the Tennessee House of Representatives.

This election will decide whether the Republicans expand, however slightly, their majority or if the Democrats will even it up, or if Tennessee will elect its only Constitutional Party Representative.

Two out of three candidates showed up. The Democratic Party candidate couldn't be bothered to show up (probably because there was no campaign money involved).

There we were with Chris Brown and Pat Marsh sitting in front of us, ready to answer questions from the people that they will be representing, dozens of people in the "stands", microphones, speakers, even refreshments...but NOBODY from the Shelbyville Times-Gazette to report on it.

Why would the local paper not have a journalist at an event that had two of the three candidates?

It was very disappointing to see just how little this paper thinks of our local elections.


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I dont know, maybe they "missed the memo" just like Ty did ...

-- Posted by becoming on Mon, Sep 21, 2009, at 10:26 PM

No, they couldn't have missed the memo, because here it is: http://www.t-g.com/story/1570355.html

-- Posted by sawyers69 on Mon, Sep 21, 2009, at 10:33 PM

I wasn't aware Mr. Marsh planned to attend. All I ever got was the fact, which we published, that Mr. Brown was going to have a forum and had opened it up to other candidates if they wanted to attend.

But since the last word I had was that the two major-party candidates were still negotiating debate terms, I didn't really think either of them would show up. Neither Mr. Marsh nor Mr. Cobb's campaigns notified me of their plans.

If I had known more than one candidate was actually going to be there, I definitely would have covered it. Perhaps I should have been there anyway, but it slipped up on me. I apologize to all concerned.

We have, I have to point out, covered this election pretty actively so far. We've had several stories a week, and tried to make sure everyone has been treated fairly.

-- Posted by Jicarney on Mon, Sep 21, 2009, at 10:49 PM

Look past the smoke and mirrors, just another right wing attempt to smear a decent democrat. It is very obvious Ty was not invited and is still waiting for negotiated terms, for a fair debate. Sounds like another republican dirty political stunt to me. Mr. Marsh and Mr. Brown don't pass the smell test in this round.

-- Posted by chs61 on Mon, Sep 21, 2009, at 11:02 PM

Even if there was only going to be one candidate wasn't that enough to have someone from the paper there. The people who went surely thought so.I think it does a great diservice to the voters to not have the paper there.

Ch61,

Ty was hand delivered an invitation by Chris Brown, and what is their to negotiate? He's a big boy and can make decisions for himself can't he. Ty clearly smeared his own name.

-- Posted by greasemonkey on Mon, Sep 21, 2009, at 11:29 PM

Well I got yet again ANOTHER campaign flyer in the mail ... maybe Ty was at a photo shoot and couldnt be there.

As for our local paper in whom we depend on giving us the details ... no comment!

-- Posted by becoming on Tue, Sep 22, 2009, at 12:04 AM

"If I had known more than one candidate was actually going to be there, I definitely would have covered it."

John, Maybe these two headlines can jog your memory:

"Bredesen visits to bolster Cobb campaign"

"Corker visits city in support of Marsh"

How many candidates were at the Marsh campaign fundraiser?

How many candidates were at the Cobb fundraiser?

I have the answer...one each...just like tonight, but you were under the impression that there would be only one candidate there.

Yet if you "had known more than one candidate was actually going to be there" you "definitely would have covered it".

Are you saying that unless the candidate is a Democrat or Republican you're not going to bother to show up?

-- Posted by Thom on Tue, Sep 22, 2009, at 12:43 AM

I read the terms ,in the paper .IN truckers terms it said hit the shoulder or shut up .DO you want wine with that cheese .BROWN, has done more west coast turn a rounds ,he's put over 1million miles on his tk.Hes been in snow ice ,roster cursing left lane hammer down. Brown has never lost a load .He's the working man if you count the hrs an weeks he's out running his trk.Brown an other truckers are gettin less pay for the job they do by the BIG comp.shorting them on mileage pay ask PAT. HE an his driver managers will tell you how they (trucking comp.)cheat the DRIVERS AKS them about log books. BROWN stands up for the drivers, and the working Joe.....AND YES HE CAN PUT UP WITH THE LIERS IN CRASHVILLE> ..THEY want to go south of the border to get the mex. in here driving to get cheep labor. they can go south hook up with a mex co. then run those drivers up here for nothing. WE are fussing over the same thing now like we did in 1855.states rights this time no slaves it's the illegal's ..wrong it's the taxes. BIG gov.loss of jobs .Brown an Marsh hit the shoulder ,an talked to the voters. An John c got the wool pulled over his eyes Brown's Q &A just proved who this paper is for .By the way J.C votes dem

-- Posted by backat ya on Tue, Sep 22, 2009, at 12:52 AM

chs61,

It was front page news, how could he not have seen it, even if he didn't read the LETTER he got? This was a chance for the PEOPLE of this District to get to know the candidates and ask questions they wanted to know. It was NOT a debate! It was a Q & A forum, that is questions and answers for you that don't know what that means. It was somewhere for the people to feel comfortable and feel like they fit into this election somehow. They could ask the question and the candidates had so long to answer each question. It was not debating back and forth, just simple questions from the average person of this area and a chance for them to meet Mr. Brown and Mr. Marsh, and Cobb. It had nothing to do with dirty stunts, it was something Mr. Brown planned, if you had seen the paper, to let the people have a place where they felt they could go. It was nothing fancy, just a ole barn meeting place, a place that made the candidates look like people too, not just politicians.

-- Posted by sawyers69 on Tue, Sep 22, 2009, at 6:37 AM

I don't know what you expect...newspapers do not cover anything about third party candidates or independent candidates.

Why would they now?

-- Posted by espoontoon on Tue, Sep 22, 2009, at 7:04 AM

Oh, and as far as John C., is Mr. Brown not considered a candidate to you? Others had front page news when they had the big dogs there. That again shows that the people with the names, don't want the regular person, who works for a living, without a name, to get into office. You have to have a big dog on your side to get a one man candidate's news covered. It's also bad, when a republican didn't know what the Christian flag was and thought it belonged to one denomination and not ALL denominations.

-- Posted by sawyers69 on Tue, Sep 22, 2009, at 7:04 AM

There is a Christian flag? I did not know this myself . . . hopefully that doesn't make me a bad person. LOL!

Anyway, I was disappointed to find out that Cobb did not show up to this event. I was thinking about voting for him but I have decided not to now since he doesn't seem interested in representing himself to the citizens he wants to vote for him. I will probably sit this election out.

chs61 . . . everyone knew about this event, even Cobb himself. He simply chose not to participate and that was his decision alone. It seems the debate was open to all people including Democrats so it would have been just as fair for him as it was for the other candidates. Your comments are just the usual political rhetoric that uninformed people like to instigate and spread.

-- Posted by jaxspike on Tue, Sep 22, 2009, at 9:04 AM

I think Thom said it all in his post about how concerned Carney and the gazette are about all parties involved with this election. Bias has been involved from day one and always will be as long as there is no competition for the gazette. Marsh and Cobb want to create more jobs, bring in another paper and maybe the competition will make the gazette honest, or just run them out of business if they don't report. I've already stopped buying the gazette because of the bias, I only read what's online.

-- Posted by tomjones on Tue, Sep 22, 2009, at 7:52 PM

Your comments are just the usual political rhetoric that uninformed people like to instigate and spread.

-- Posted by jaxspike on Tue, Sep 22, 2009, at 9:04 AM

Like the one who didn't know there was a Christian flag?

-- Posted by nascarfanatic on Tue, Sep 22, 2009, at 8:01 PM

You know, I was wondering, has Pat or Ty served for their country? I can't remember seeing anything on that. I know Brown was in the Army around 16 yrs and served in Desert Shield/Desert Storm. That is just a question that has been on my mind. If not, then why did they fail to volunteer?

-- Posted by backat ya on Tue, Sep 22, 2009, at 10:25 PM

If ever there were a time to vote third party...now is that time. Heaven help our country with the leader we have at the helm now!

As for the t-g, I must say I am admittedly disapointed and a little surprised (they're usually more concerned and on top of things). The citizens of this county rely on "your" [t-g] voice to keep us informed in current events--all current events...even if the democ-rat decides to "sit this one out."

I am still weighing between canidates for my vote, but the Cobb just took himself off the market in my book. I mean, if he can't be bothered to take a few moments of his time right before elections to address issues, then what makes us think he'll spare the time in "Washington" to be our voice?

-- Posted by shawna.jones on Wed, Sep 23, 2009, at 2:08 AM

nascarfanatic . . . so tell me what a Christian flag has to do with politics and why I should know one exist? Thank you for your uninspired and witless comment.

-- Posted by jaxspike on Wed, Sep 23, 2009, at 7:37 AM

the phone calls and mailers have certainly helped me make up my mind. with this seat so terribly important to the interests of dem & rep parties, they seem to have pulled out all the stops trying to win this election. the only way i can read this is that the ultimate winner will be beholden to and expected to serve the interests of their party. i dont think i care to vote for someone to represent a political party.

as for the "christian flag"... who cares if they have ever heard of the "christian flag". do they know the christian secret handshake?

-- Posted by lazarus on Wed, Sep 23, 2009, at 10:16 AM

"There are currently 49 Republicans, 48 Democrats, and 1 "Carter County Republican" (I'm still not sure what that's supposed to mean) in the Tennessee House of Representatives."

that one is easy. 49 represent the republican party, 48 represent the democratic party, and one poor out-of-step chump is representing the people of his district.

-- Posted by lazarus on Wed, Sep 23, 2009, at 10:18 AM

All I know is I'll be glad when the election is over. I'm tired of the phone calls from 9AM till 9PM.

-- Posted by docudrama on Wed, Sep 23, 2009, at 6:40 PM

backat ya - As a veteran, I wouldn't say that they "failed" to volunteer. The military isn't for everyone. Heck, the military isn't even for everyone that's IN the military. That's why they have discharges (Honorable, and others with varying levels of disgrace).

-- Posted by Thom on Wed, Sep 23, 2009, at 6:43 PM

http://www.examiner.com/x-20988-Tennesse...

MY MY "TY WAS LOST BUT NOW HE'S FOUND "

This is worth a lot of VOTES ,,are my eyes seeing this .No its a LOOK A LIKE ...LOOK LIKE YOU GOT BUSTED

-- Posted by backat ya on Thu, Sep 24, 2009, at 8:52 PM

I got mail today that says Marsh has not paid his taxes 5 times whats up I thought you had to pay your taxes...The court made him pay them...

-- Posted by tinytoes on Sat, Sep 26, 2009, at 10:10 AM

"I got mail today that says Marsh has not paid his taxes 5 times whats up I thought you had to pay your taxes...The court made him pay them..."

as always, i should start by saying i am not endorsing this candidate. however, business taxes are not readily comparable to a person filing their income tax. as i understand it, mr marsh has a large business spanning many states. it is doubtful that he is personally responsible for identifying and paying all the taxes involved. it is hardly unusual for some taxes to pass the due date in such a situation. as far as "the court made him pay them" is concerned, it is standard procedure for governmental entities which are not equipped as collection agencies to go thru the formality of transferring these receivables to government agencies which are so equipped by technically "filing suit" to collect. there are at least hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions of such court proceedings that occur every year. some involve actual recalcitrants, some involve people in financial difficulty, and many involve people who simply made an error. the information given in this mailing is incomplete and misleading.

as far as this race goes, the importance to the major parties has brought to bear party machinery out of proportion to the actual importance of the position. and the parties only know one way to campaign; with smears, distortions, and outright lies. the three candidates are honorable men, and this campaign has been a shameful discredit to them.

-- Posted by lazarus on Wed, Sep 30, 2009, at 7:50 PM

backat ya...that is the funkiest punctuation and capitalization I have ever seen.

-- Posted by goodgrief on Wed, Sep 30, 2009, at 10:15 PM

lazarus; When taxes are due to be paid by a corp. a notice is ALWAYS sent out, if the taxes are not paid by the following year a late notice or past due notice is sent out.it takes a long time before it gets into the courts hands and by the way the taxes were ORDERED PAID by a Judge this could have been paid in the proper clerks office before the judge had to here the cases,this is NOT AN OVERSITE!

-- Posted by tinytoes on Thu, Oct 1, 2009, at 4:55 PM

Umm, why should we trust a man who is unable to keep up with a business to be trusted with a job that would require him to keep up with more than the business did ?

why would we believe he would do the right thing by us , without a court order when he has shown that the court orders were needed to get him to do things in the past he had chosen or over looked before? it can be safly assumned that when the judge made his "order" that that was not the first time Marsh was made away that he had "over looked " these ( not just one ) things.

why if Marsh became away he had "over looked" one tax payment did he not think " humm, if I missed this one perhaps there are others , I should audit my records and make sure they are correct and I have not missed any others.

why has he admitted to over looking these things but not made it clear that they have all been accounted for and taken care of?

why does he not post where he got his negative add information on the opponates like Cobb does? it's nice to have the choice to verify the information on them if we want to.

why have I not gotten one post card from him telling me why he would be good for the job? I get a new one most every day and the only reason he has given as a good reason to vote for him was because he is for guns. I'm not judging owning a gun, but does he have anything more to offer other than reasons not to vote for the other guy?

I am going to take all the little post card things from these guys and ignore all the negative malarkey in them , and take note of what good reasons they give me about themselves that will pertain to their job they want, the one who sells himself the best will have my vote, the one who stabs the other in the back the most will not....

yep I'm just wondering why............

-- Posted by wonderwhy on Mon, Oct 5, 2009, at 12:59 AM


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