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UPDATED: Wartrace issues water warning

Wednesday, April 2, 2008

A drinking water warning has been issued for the Wartrace Water System due to high turbidity levels and potentially contaminated water.

The Town of Wartrace issued the warning Tuesday morning and is telling customers to boil their water before using it until further notice.

Water monitoring showed turbidity levels that "exceed the allowable limit," a statement issued Tuesday said.

"Because of the high levels of turbidity, there is an increased chance that the water may contain disease-causing organisms," the statement reads.

Mayor Don Gallagher said the water is safe for bathing and the water warning should not be in effect for more than a couple of days.

On Wednesday morning, Gallagher said that a Nashville TV station made several misstatements about the situation, such as that sewage had gotten into the water system and that Wartrace tried to hide the condition of the water from the public.

The mayor stressed that no sewage entered the system and that the schools and the general public were informed about the situation as quickly as possible. As soon as the town received the notice from TDEC at 9 a.m. Tuesday, it immediately began the process of informing educators and the public.

He added that Wartrace sends water samples to the Tennessee Department of Environment and Conservation (TDEC) on a daily basis and the warning was issued by TDEC "simply as a precaution."

David Money of TDEC will also be in Wartrace today to check on the situation, Gallagher said,

Gallagher also explained that this was not the first time that surface water has gotten into the underground source of drinking water and "if we have another really hard rain, it could happen again."

Officials in nearby Bell Buckle stated that as soon as the warning was issued, they cut off their supply from Wartrace and will use water purchased from Bedford County Utility District until further notice.

Wartrace officials said that the recent heavy rainfall caused a change in the water quality from their underground source, Cascade Spring, making it difficult to treat.

"Additional bacteriological testing is being conducted at this time. Our water plant staff is working to correct the problem," the statement read, saying that they will inform the public when turbidity returns to appropriate levels and when customers no long need to boil their water.

Water fountains at Cascade School were cut off, according to assistant principal David Parker. An announcement was made to all students concerning the water warning and hand sanitizing gel was placed in each classroom, he told the T-G Tuesday afternoon.

In addition, cafeteria workers at the school were boiling water before using it in the kitchen. Parker said the school would be waiting for the word from Wartrace when the water would be safe to use again.

Gallagher said the town's board has been looking at solutions to the problem and is planning to build a water filtration plant, for an estimated cost of $3 million.

The concept is to have the plant operating by the fall of 2009, but the sticking point is the funding. Gallagher said that Wartrace is looking at obtaining the money through either a Community Development Block Grant (CDBG), a Rural Development Grant or a grant from the Environmental Protection Agency.

Customers should not drink the water without boiling it first. Bring all water to a boil, let it boil for one minute and let it cool before using, or use bottled water. Boiled or bottled water should be used for drinking, making ice, washing dishes, brushing teeth and food preparation until further notice.

Turbidity itself has no health effects, but it can interfere with disinfection and provide a medium for microbial growth. Turbidity could indicate the presence of disease-causing organisms including bacteria, viruses, and parasites, which can cause symptoms such as nausea, cramps, diarrhea and associated headaches.

"People with severely compromised immune systems, infants and some elderly may be at increased risk. These people should seek advice about drinking water from their health care providers," the statement read.

For more information, contact Wartrace Town Hall at 389-6144.

Other water systems, such as Shelbyville Power, Water and Sewerage System, Flat Creek Water Cooperative or Bedford County Utility District, are not affected.


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we got some lime & spread it heavily on the yard...we were told to leave it 3 days & then till or rake it up & then we still want to put dirt on top of that just to feel safer with the kids & pets being in that area....they should be able to play on it in about 3 weeks!!

-- Posted by bjmperry on Sun, Apr 6, 2008, at 2:08 PM

bjmperry

Sorry, I thought it was your septic tank! I had a problem kindof like that in Smyrna and it ran out under the house. My father told us to spread Lime (like you get a co-op) under the house to get rid of the mess and smell.

-- Posted by Disgusted on Fri, Apr 4, 2008, at 1:25 PM

yes it is gross what people flush it wasn't i that flushed them but the clog just happen to stop up at my house & out it came...the town of wartrace's insurance is taking care of us as well as some that wartrace itself is doing...wartrace has been wonderful but the insurance believe it or not have been nothing but rude...it was not our fault & they actually told us to raise the windows & live there....can you imagine...but the cleanup on our house is going great the yard however....no one knows what to do.....the house should be livable tomorrow but the yard is still contaminated.....the insurance is refusing to fix it but we have talked to the town of wartrace & they are working with us....& hopefully we never have to worry about this again!!!! i am definetly telling my neighbors to be thoughtful of what they flush b/c it all ends up somewhere!!!!!

-- Posted by bjmperry on Fri, Apr 4, 2008, at 12:12 PM

Has anyone heard anything new on the water ?? Another question for anyone that drinks coffee..I have noticed that my coffee does not taste the same using bottle water..It doesn't have that coffee taste..Is it just me or has anyone else noticed it ?????

-- Posted by rebelrose on Fri, Apr 4, 2008, at 12:02 PM

bjmperry

I do feel for you and I'm not trying to sound ugly but most of the things you mention comming back out should have not went down in the first place. Q-tips, pads, diapers, wipes, tampons, grease, and food?????

-- Posted by Disgusted on Thu, Apr 3, 2008, at 2:21 PM

I have been through something similar before and you're right, it's TERRIBLE! I cringe even 10 years later when I think about it! Ours wasn't the entire house or yard though. It came up through the washer, the bath tub, toilets, and sinks. It was a very old rental home.

Yours sounds like a nightmare compared to mine!!!

How long do you think you'll be out of the house? How on earth do you even begin to clean it up?

I wish for your home to have a speedy recovery!!

Hang in there.....

-- Posted by summerhill on Thu, Apr 3, 2008, at 2:11 PM

ok i agree that the water situation is bad, but i feel that wartrace did the best possible in this case to inform & we could all argue this ordeal for days...if you only knew....april 1st i woke up to raw sewage pouring from my drains EVERYTHING in my bathrooms is ruined & my master bedroom, my yard is no longer safe for my children or pets think about that. we should be more concered with what the citizens of wartrace are flushing down their drains...it all spewed out of the flush out for two hours into my yard...q-tips, pads, diapers, wipes, tampons, grease, food, not to mention poop, blood, vomit......you name it. wartrace has been great in this matter with us i can't tell you how co-operative they have been, so be grateful you get to sleep in your home & only worry about buying water ...i have crap stains on everything i own...i had to drag my small children & pets to a hotel until my house is deemed livable.....so your day could be worse!!!

-- Posted by bjmperry on Thu, Apr 3, 2008, at 1:54 PM

I think some testing needs to be on Shelbyville water. It taste like dirt and literally makes me sick. I get dizzy and feel sick to my stomach after drinking the town water, hence the massive bottled water bill I have now...

-- Posted by Disturbia on Thu, Apr 3, 2008, at 11:49 AM

BTW . . . I am affected by it because I do receive my water from Wartrace but I am not worried about it. I am drinking bottled water and life goes and I will let the water department do its job. But hey, reasoning must be a lost art form nowadays.

-- Posted by jaxspike on Thu, Apr 3, 2008, at 10:16 AM

Yes, I was concerned truckindaddy because I have a low immune system and that's why I asked about the water lines. I was not upset about anything and even if I didn't found out until later then I still wouldn't have been upset. What is the point? They let the news outlet know about the situation and the water department is working on the situation. What is the point of people coming on here and gripping and complaining and coming up with conspiracy theories about why it happened? Sometimes things happen that are out of our control and we just deal with it and move on.

I have no problem with people expressing concern over the issue but unfortunately so many people are reverting to childish behavior and pointing fingers and making silly accusations. That is what is so pathetic about the situation.

-- Posted by jaxspike on Thu, Apr 3, 2008, at 10:12 AM

First WARTRACERESIDENT the Kenny Chesney crack was inappropriate, so let me ask you this, was your husband one of those who was fined recently or was it just the water company itself that was fined when there was too much sewerage in the pool and one of the crew was told to dump it into the river and the wild life officer discover it in the river and reported it to the appropriate officials. How many people know about this secret. I have children and I myself have a terminal disease that makes my immune system low I do all that I can to protect them and myself which includes drinking a good amount of water each day, now I have to worry about the fact that I and my children may get sick from this. And once again I will say that it isn't due to the fact that it happened it's still the fact that NOTIFICATION WAS POOR!!!! As the lady wrote at the other story sight for Thursday as of 2 p.m. Wed. she still didn't know. And JAXSPIKE that dog won't hunt you were 4th in line asking questions because you were worried when you read this online. Now imagine you hadn't read this online and were not notified properly you'd be p'od just as we are. So go to the cafe and have a meal that has not been prepared with boiled water, or give your child a bath and sit there and watch them like a hawk for fear that they may accidentally get some of this tainted water in their mouths and get horribly sick. You don't know cause all your fears were dispeled by writer #5. ANd if our voicing our opinions and demanding better upsets you STOP READING!!!

-- Posted by truckindaddy on Thu, Apr 3, 2008, at 9:32 AM

All I have to say about the situation that has occured in Wartrace over the past few days is that I think the communcication between the town and its citizens could have been handled better. We need some kind of plan in place when things like this occurs to let everyone know what is going on. Our family did not know about it until Tuesday afternoon and we had already used the water that morning. I am confident that the water dept is doing all it can to correct the situation.

-- Posted by nedh on Thu, Apr 3, 2008, at 12:01 AM

I called Bell Buckle today the 2nd, asked where the water was cut off . Since we live between cascade school and wartrace we had no idea where our water was coming from? I was told if I was paying my bill to bell buckle I had county water they did'nt use wartrace water. If that is the case why has the school took precautions. The lady at bell buckle office had to ask some one else where my water came from she stated that was a good question! All I would like is a straight truthful answer. where does the water come from between wartrace city limits and bell buckle?

-- Posted by tn.moonshiner on Wed, Apr 2, 2008, at 10:29 PM

jaxspike- You posted earlier that you get a bill from the Bell Buckle water department! You seemed concerned when you thought it affected you. And do you have kids? I highly doubt it or maybe you'd understand how big this situation is or could have been.

-- Posted by Wartrace C on Wed, Apr 2, 2008, at 9:55 PM

Yes, Wartrace should have went to everyone's door and held their hand and told them the news and then helped boil their water and fluff their pillows while doing the dishes and clean their house. Heck, they should have also called the National Guard and declared martial law(yes, that is sacrasm).

Come on people . . . take all the negative energy you are using to complain and whine and do something positive. It is so annoying to read all these comments about how people werent informed but yet it seems everyone knew about it some time yesterday or this morning. Sure, some people may not have heard the news but that will happen no matter what you do.

This kind of makes me ashamed to call myself a resident of Wartrace when they act this silly.

-- Posted by jaxspike on Wed, Apr 2, 2008, at 9:30 PM

I have to say I am diappointed in how this was handled. Not with the workers at the water department, thank god they found this problem. Although I agree that whoever is answering phones seemed annoyed with answering simple questions. But, I have a 2 month old and a 4 year old that have drank LOTS of this water until about 2:00 today. I don't agree that radio and newspaper were enough to relay the message. Wartrace is small enough that they could have posted notes on doors, or simply driven around the SMALL community with a megaphone stating "don't drink the water! Tune in to" whatever station....Two or three times a day would have taken 20-30 minutes of one persons' time. Who's job is it to look after the well being of the community? I live in Wartrace, not Shelbyville, although It reached some, I don't subscribe to another towns newspaper, do I magically know what radio station to listen to? Bottom line is, my CHILDREN'S health was at risk and we were never notified. These things happen, but there are also proper ways to handle these situations. Somebody dropped the ball.

-- Posted by Wartrace C on Wed, Apr 2, 2008, at 9:07 PM

SOUNDS LIKE TO ME WATRACE HAS SOME POLITCAL ISSUES JUST AS THE REST OF THE COUNTY. THEY ENJOY MISINFORMING PEOPLE AND TURNING TO LOOK THE OTHER WAY. DOES THE MAYOR EVEN CARE?? I MEAN THE TOWNS VERY OWN FIRE CHIEF DOES NOT EVEN LIVE IN WARTRACE OR EVEN CLOSE TO IT, HE LIVES IN SHELBYVILLE. HE IS EVEN BEING ALLOWED TO SIT ATLEACT 2 EMERGENCY SERVICE BOARDS, REPRESENTING DISTRICTS THAT HE DOES NOT LIVE IN. MORE SMALL TOWN POLITICS. AND THE MAYOR OF WARTRACE IS ALLOWING MISREPRESENTATION.

-- Posted by scannermanner on Wed, Apr 2, 2008, at 9:04 PM

1. I just ran a bath and the water looks like pond water - a very peculiar shade of green.

2. I'm afraid I'm going to have to call B.S. on the "really hard rain" explanation. I have lived in Wartrace a number of years and the recent rains are not even close to the worst we've had. I am very suspicious of the "really hard rain" explanation, but quite willing to change my mind if the town would release information explaining why this rain caused the problem and many, many previous far worse rains did not;

3. I talked to a Wartrace resident who called city hall today to try to find out when the water would be safe and how we would all be notified that it was safe. According to this resident, city hall would not provide information and was not very pleasant about it.

4. Attention: Wartrace town managment and employees: when there is a problem, and it is your problem, being snippy in your dealing with the public is unprofessional and really pretty stupid. It just increases the anger. That really shouldn't have to be stated, but apparently it does.

5. Question: when will the water be safe again, and how will we know, and why are there no answers to these questions?

-- Posted by tenn native on Wed, Apr 2, 2008, at 8:38 PM

Comparing this with Kenny Chesney is not a fair comparison. Kenny requested his appearance to not be known for he had an outside video to make and people shouting and carrying on would have made that impossible. Some people got in huge trouble when another famous person showed up a few years ago around Normandy I think it was. Trust me I would have been a very happy camper to have shook his hand myself. Sometimes things aren't what they seem. It's much easier to see the negative first.

-- Posted by Wartrace Resident on Wed, Apr 2, 2008, at 4:40 PM

I think we all need to stop step back and really look at this. We know that the problem is not sewerage, okay go on. Next we need to face the fact that letting everyone know is the problem here. THERE ARE STILL FOLKS TO THE EVENING THAT DO NOT KNOW. Some people don't have computers, buy newspapers, only travel on certain days and just don't see anyone to be told. This needs to teach Wartrace a lesson better communication skills. Kenny Chesney was a well kept secret this is too. Should have been better notification.

-- Posted by truckindaddy on Wed, Apr 2, 2008, at 4:25 PM

The Facts without Rhetoric:

1. The water was found to have high levels of turbidity

2. It was announced on April 1st

3. High levels of turbidity can carry things to make you sick

4. No door to door communication or effective communication was done.

5. People were reporting the published symptoms prior to April 1st.

-- Posted by BigStepper on Wed, Apr 2, 2008, at 1:33 PM

Thank you Summerhill. That is most appreciated. I will certaintly give them your best.

God Bless

-- Posted by Wartrace Resident on Wed, Apr 2, 2008, at 12:38 PM

Wartrace Resident,

Thank you for your posts. I hope I did not offend you, as it certainly was not my intention.

I simply wanted to voice my concern that consumers should've been informed more efficiently.

These things happen. I have no doubt the Wartrace Water Department will correct this problem soon.

Please give your husband my thanks for all of his hard work, and for the hard work of all his fellow workers!

Sincerely,

Summerhill

-- Posted by summerhill on Wed, Apr 2, 2008, at 12:34 PM

Grow up people and quit acting like the world has come to an end. Wartrace has done its part to inform people and they are working on resolving the issue. Stuff like this happens no matter how hard you try for it not to. Nothing is perfect!!

Unfortunately you got a few idiots who want to make a mountain out of an ant hill and can't be satisfied.

-- Posted by jaxspike on Wed, Apr 2, 2008, at 12:05 PM

AMEM WARTRACE RESIDENT...I also know that these guys work very HARD. We all just need to hang on and everything will be okay....

-- Posted by rebelrose on Wed, Apr 2, 2008, at 11:57 AM

I'm sorry, that was a bit harsh. I was responding to a few comments in particular that was a bit derogatory. Sorry if I offended anyone outside that range. They'll get this cleared up as soon as possible. Thanks.

-- Posted by Wartrace Resident on Wed, Apr 2, 2008, at 11:32 AM

My husband happens to work for the Wartrace Water Department, and trust me I know first hand how often these guys test the water. Our free time have been cut up and divided many times over to make sure our water is managed around the clock for safety. This story in the Shelbyville Times Gazette IS the truth. It was simply caused by too much rainfall. The story about the sewage getting in our drinking water was made up by some pessimist vomiting up accusations and prematurely spreading it around town. These guys on the department work their tail ends off to make sure everything is up to good standards and beyond. They are honest, respectable, upstanding Christians. You should be so proud to have them serve you.

And as far as the accusations of them with holding this information is absolute none sense, because the TDEC disclosed the results themselves as soon as they were discovered.

-- Posted by Wartrace Resident on Wed, Apr 2, 2008, at 11:07 AM

If everyone is very worried you know you can come to the town meeting this coming monday night at 7:00pm. It is the 1st monday of every month. I do not think it is Mr.Gallagher fault. Him and his wife have the same water as we do and they are having to boil their water also.I do not believe he wanted this to happen. He cares for his people in his town.My sister lives in Woodbury and her water is spring water. Her water is never tested. It comes from the spring right into her house. I feel very lucky that we have people that keep a check on our water. Yes it is a pain in the butt.But we will get over this and go on. Come to the meeting on Monday night if you have question's about the water.I am sure you will get some answers to your questions.We are all up-set about this.Let's just stand together as a town and get thru this and find out what needs to be done so this will not happen anymore.

-- Posted by rebelrose on Wed, Apr 2, 2008, at 10:32 AM

So Summerhill i have a question. Do you think it responsable reporting to say that there is sewage in the water when that is know were near the case?

-- Posted by sdgallagher86 on Wed, Apr 2, 2008, at 10:10 AM

Had the Wartrace Water Department followed proper protocol upon the disclosure of contamination to consumers, I don't think it would be up for speculation.

PUBLIC NOTIFICATION

"VIOLATIONS WITH SERIOUS EFFECTS: Notices for violations with potential to have "serious adverse effect" must contain an explanation of the violation, the potential health effects, what the system is doing to correct the problem, and whether consumers need to use an alternate source of water. Recipients of such notices must include consumers and the State. Notices must be given by "appropriate" broadcast media and newspaper serving area, or posted door-to-door in lieu of broadcast media/newspaper. Notices must be given within 24 hours after occurrence of violation. [1414(c)] Sec. 114(a)"

http://www.epa.gov/safewater/sdwa/summ.h...

-- Posted by summerhill on Wed, Apr 2, 2008, at 10:25 AM

So Summerhill i have a question. Do you think it responsable reporting to say that there is sewage in the water when that is know were near the case?

-- Posted by sdgallagher86 on Wed, Apr 2, 2008, at 10:10 AM

Whether it's sewage or another contamination, the point is that the Water Dept should have contacted media outlets to advise the water warning. That's my biggest concern. Fox 17 is supposed to be in Wartrace around noon...maybe they can get the "correct" story.

-- Posted by neighborhood mom on Wed, Apr 2, 2008, at 10:10 AM

"I think Channel 4 should be sorry for irresponsible reporting."

Posted by sdgallagher86 on Wed, Apr 2, 2008, at 8:50 AM

The Wartrace Water Department should be sorry for their lack of responsibility. Wartrace Water Department should have done everything in their power to let customers know about the contamination. Not relying on the "grapevine"(e.g. from neighbors learning about it online) to get word out that customers should follow safe water guidelines. Wartrace Water Department should have contacted all news services on television, and radio. Just as a responsible manufacturer would when issuing a recall on a defective toy, or tainted food.

-- Posted by summerhill on Wed, Apr 2, 2008, at 9:17 AM

OK, if you only knew what happened to my brother's house you would not be so angry about the water situation. You have to put it all in prospective! Raw sewage backed up into my brother's bathrooms and ruined his floors, clothes, towels, etc. Then they unscrewed the cap outside to relieve the inside and it flooded his whole yard and underneath his house. Their heat and air unit had to be turned off and they cannot go in their yard. All of the underneath of the house has to be replaced. Their house is unlivable! They have two small children. He lives in Wartrace, but needless to say the water situation is the least of his worries!!! I hope everyone realizes it could be worse! I know I thanked God this morning. I am sure glad I have a septic tank! HA!HA!

-- Posted by aescott on Wed, Apr 2, 2008, at 9:04 AM

Wow...so irresponsible "dictatorship"! Did you not vote at the last election? Anyway NOTHING WAS KEPT a secret. That's why a WARNING was issued. How can sewage 30 or 40 miles from the water source be the cause? Think about it. Our water comes from Cascade springs. Do you know were George Dickel is? Well that's close to the area our water comes from. The sewage plant is in wartrace. That would take some serious magic. I say we praise our leadership for being on top of the subject and issuing a warning. If it was a secret how do you know? Everything will be fine, but I think Channel 4 should be sorry for irresponsible reporting.

-- Posted by sdgallagher86 on Wed, Apr 2, 2008, at 8:50 AM

Funny how I made a comment about sewage and secrecy and the news article was updated within an hour stating that the news stations reported it as that and that they were wrong. Go figure. And if they were notified at 9am on Tuesday and they test daily, that means from Monday-whatever time to Tuesday at 9am-or so (and longer if you were not informed about it), we were using our water that was possibly contaminated. So, the fact that BB shut off their water around that time, means that it could still be in the lines. I'll stick with my bottled water for a few more days!

-- Posted by neighborhood mom on Wed, Apr 2, 2008, at 8:42 AM

I have a few questions: (what did you know and when did you know it)

When was this problem first detected?

What were the readings? (turbidity level, NTU)

Has additional testing been done? If so, what were the results?

Who's in charge of the Wartrace Water Dept.?

Are there any rules/guidelines for reporting this type of information to the public?

-- Posted by Farmer Bill on Wed, Apr 2, 2008, at 8:28 AM

I was called by a neighbor after she returned from school. She told me it was raw sewage tha got into the water supply. (I don't know where/who that info came from, but who's to argue?) I agree, we have had a lot more rain/flooding in the past and that's not contaminated the water. Something's just not right. Why all the secrecy? And why did it take until 10pm to make the news?! This should have started by noon at the latest. I sent several emails to tv stations to get the info out and I've yet to see it on News2. But there are a lot of people (elderly) that don't have kids in school or read the paper online since it didn't make yesterdays hard copy paper. This is really sad. My only question is how long has it been going on. Just because Bell Buckle shut off the value "when they heard" doesn't mean it hasn't been going on for "a while" and that it's not in the lines. So yeah, just because I get BB water, I'm going to be ok "because they said so"! Uh huh...and that's why I bought a few gallons of water for my water needs. My little one came home from school the last day before Easter break...I'm not saying it's from that because noone else has been sick, but I'm also not buying that the rain did it either.

-- Posted by neighborhood mom on Wed, Apr 2, 2008, at 7:17 AM

trishap37160:

No, this does not happen anyplace and I am going to vent on my home place for IRRESPONSIBLE management, not the turbidity. Not everyone has kids in school and gets information home. As a matter of fact, seniors and part-time people (that pay a hell of a lot of taxes for us by the way) had no idea this was going on until they turned on channel 4...People on heart medicine can DIE from this..How irresponsible. Having BUILT water treatment plants I can tell you turbidity CAN be avoided. It is shear laziness that this occurred. My complaint I am going to lodge to the state is the fact they have made no effort for an emergency information plan, and did not carry one out. Further, where is this homeland security money going to.. cameras on the street? The use of HS money is to develop a PR plan and plan against water contamination that could hurt the public. They did nothing. I argue for state take over of this company and oversight immediatley. I demand records be released to the public for the tubidity recorder readings for the last month to see how it has charted.

-- Posted by double t on Wed, Apr 2, 2008, at 6:14 AM

This was first story news on CHANNEL 4 at 10 last night. This is no small issue. I urge everyone to contact the State Water department and the state environmental regulators to lodge complaints on the OPERATORS including the dictator of Wartrace on thier shoddy management. This is no small issue. The desk ladies telling you this pose Wartrace into lawsuit risk without public facts. Again, WE NEED QUALIFIED PEOPLE RUNNING THIS. I will never trust them again. I was sick for the last 2 week-ends.

-- Posted by double t on Wed, Apr 2, 2008, at 6:03 AM

My children go to cascade school and came home today with the information on the water problem. I would just like to say hats off to the guys that are trying to fix the problem with the water. I know that right now you are getting more complaints than praise but I know that everyones health is your top priority. I dont see how some patrons can bash the city that they live. This could have easily happened anywhere these things just happen sometimes. There are more things to be worried about than giving the people at the Wartrace Water Board grief over problems that they are aware of and are trying to resolve. I live on the outskirt of Bellbuckle and I do happen to have a Shelbyville address. My money is spent in Wartrace, Bellbuckle, Unionville, Shelbyville, all over really. We just need to support our county. We should be proud of where we live and just be glad that we do have water at all.

-- Posted by trishap37160 on Tue, Apr 1, 2008, at 9:31 PM

I have a daughter that missed school today (April 1st) because of the exact symptoms that are included in the TG article. She attends Cascade School, but where we live we use Shelbyville water. I am of the belief that the "dirty" Wartrace water can make a person sick. I am also of the belief that the water has been "dirty" for more than just "today".

There are several questions that I have to ask. First, where was the effective communication letting people know that something was wrong with the water supply? Why did it take so long for someone to actually say "the water was dirty" and it could be a problem? As far as I know, Cascade Elementary School was the first place that officially took the initiative to inform people of the water risk. I am also thankful for the article on Times Gazette's home page. Kudos to you CES and TG.

Also, who is responsible to ensure the water is properly and frequently tested? Do they still have their job? I know I wouldn't if I made a mess up like this.

There are also two reasons that I am a little perturbed. One, my daughter is sick with the exact symptoms explained in the TG article. Two, what would happen if an idiot decided to intentionally contaminate the water source. How many people would be affected before someone would step forward and say "the water is bad." I hope that the Wartrace water manager learns from this and incorporates a better system to ensure that the citizens of their town and others will be safe. I also hope that other water companies are paying attention so they will not make the same mistakes.

The first time a mistake happens, it is an oversight; the second time it is stupidity.

-- Posted by BigStepper on Tue, Apr 1, 2008, at 9:00 PM

Grandpat this is a true story sad to say. Laura Gentry told me....Look at my previous posting! This is not a hoax, but if it was it would be a doozy. And yes the April fools joke is the north main story.

-- Posted by truckindaddy on Tue, Apr 1, 2008, at 7:53 PM

Charlene...I invited you over to have some of my water...I take that back..I have sat here and felt bad about saying that..I was dropping to your level when you told me to have a drink of water...That was rude of me and rude of you too..I do not want anyone to drink this water until it is cleared up..I do not know what you meant by telling me to clean up at my back door..What does that have to do with our water..I have always supported Bell Buckle and we give money every year to your fire dept. when they come to our door..I love Bell Buckle and have never put the town down..I do not know were you are coming from..I hate that this has happened to our town and I sure do not wish it on any other town... I have been putting a little bleach in my water when I was my dishes.

-- Posted by rebelrose on Tue, Apr 1, 2008, at 7:46 PM

Okay, my children brought home a notice telling us about the water and the precautions the school is using to keep our kids from being "contaminated." But I am still concerned. Kids get dirty, very dirty. It is so important to wash their hands before they eat. While I appreciate the antibacterial stuff, does that really get all the germs?

-- Posted by JenniferC on Tue, Apr 1, 2008, at 7:30 PM

I use to live in Iowa (yes people actually live in Iowa) :>) we use to get boiled water ordinances all the time. They did nothing more than announcing it on TV and the radio to get the word out but people there seemed use to the process..me on the other hand had never heard of a boiled water ordinance.

-- Posted by Dianatn on Tue, Apr 1, 2008, at 7:21 PM

This kind of story came out in the T-G last year on April first,again an alleged true-type story,but April fool nonetheless.THE OTHER APRIL FOOL STORY IN TODAYS T-G TALKS ABOUT LAND USE PLANNING FOR THE FUTURE ON NORTH MAIN STREET.IT WILL TAKE THE NEXT TWENTY YEARS TO CORRECT THE PROBLEMS CREATED ON NORTH MAIN STREET THAT ONLY TOOK THREE MONTHS TO HAPPEN.I AM SURE BWS CONSULTANTS WERE A DAY EARLY IN PRESENTING THEIR URBAN PLANS TO THE LEADERS OF OUR CITY,AND WOULD HAVE CONCLUDED THEIR PRESENTATION BY THE DEPARTING COMMENT,

"APRIL FOOL"............................... (WARTRACE WATER REPORT:name the person who the T-G got their information,and where did the report come from,and why did the T-G not check out the ORIGINAL source reporting a turbidity problem and report from that source???)SEEMS LIKE SOMEONE IS SOME KIND OF AN APRIL FOOL REPORTER DID THIS STORY ON WARTRACE WATER.

-- Posted by grandpat on Tue, Apr 1, 2008, at 7:07 PM

CHARLENE I have not dogged Bell Buckle. If you are talking about what I said about Bell Buckle having a judge..and court..and a police officer..I was talking about it would save you guys alot of money if you went to court in Shelbyville. I did not say anything bad. Another person is the one that put you guys down. not me...Maybe you should read it all. Back when someone wrote in about going to bell buckle and eating and talked about people always brown bagging there. I took up for Bell Buckle and said that I eat there alot and have never seen anything like brown bagging or someone drunk at the post office. AND MY BACK DOOR IS CLEAN AND ALWAYS HAS BEEN. I AM INVITING YOU OVER TO HAVE A GLASS OF WATER WITH ME. WATCH OUT THERE MAYBE SOME OF OUR WATER LEFT IN YOUR PIPES

-- Posted by rebelrose on Tue, Apr 1, 2008, at 7:06 PM

Posted on the Bell Buckle Web Site

04/01/2008

Water Notice!

Wartrace Water just let us know that due to the heavy rainfall last night, the turbidity level has shot up and it is making it difficult to treat. They are urging everyone to not drink the water without boiling it first. (just let it boil for 1 minute & let it cool before using) Turbidity has no health effects, just can interfere with disinfedtion disease causing organisms. Ronnie immediately shut off the water connections and we are just buying from BCUD right now. This should last for 2 days.

-- Posted by summerhill on Tue, Apr 1, 2008, at 6:36 PM

WELL REBELROSE...YOU FINALLY GOT SOMETHING TO WORRY ABOUT IN WARTRACE...MAYBE YOU SHOULD HAVE CLEANED OUT YOUR OWN BACK DOOR BEFORE YOU START ON BELL BUCKLE...HAVE ANOTHER DRINK OF WATER...

-- Posted by CHARLENE DARLIN on Tue, Apr 1, 2008, at 6:35 PM

we have had wartrace water for more than 30 years, there has been allot more rain in the past with many floods than there has been in the last few days, not to mention last year. why is there a problem NOW??

-- Posted by allwrappedup on Tue, Apr 1, 2008, at 6:10 PM

okay truckindaddy said that he called the water people and they said it was not as bad as the paper was making it. Alot of other people said this is no joke. Okay all I want to know is how long has this been this way ??? And should we be worried. Since last thursday I have had a stomach problem. On saturday it hurt so bad I was getting a little worried. I still have it. I even started taking one of my Med's that I take for my stomach 4 times a day instead of 2 times. It did not help any. My husband has had the same thing and I thought he might had picked up a stomach bug from school.What should we do about this ? Also is it something that may stay in our system for a while before we start feeling a problem ? We the people here in Wartrace need to know everything about this water problem and if we should worry about how long it has been this way. How often do they check the water??

-- Posted by rebelrose on Tue, Apr 1, 2008, at 4:33 PM

I just got off the phone with Wartrace's mayor and I can safely tell you that this is no April's Fool joke. We did not get this information until 30 minutes after we went to press this morning. More details will be in tomorrow's paper.

-- Posted by Brian Mosely on Tue, Apr 1, 2008, at 4:25 PM

I had a stomach ache one day last week and our baby had an ear infection last month. HOW LONG HAS THIS BEEN GOING ON!!!!!!

DANG YOU WARTRACE!!!!!!

-- Posted by whatda on Tue, Apr 1, 2008, at 3:37 PM

I THINK THIS WATER ISSUE FALLS BACK,ON THE MAYOR OF WARTRACE.FOR NOT HAVING THE CORRECT QUALIFIED PEOPLE CHECKING ARE WATER SUPPLY.THIS IS A VERY SERIOUS MATTER.THIS COULD BE A SERIOUS HEALTH ISSUE............IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN.

-- Posted by T-Mac on Tue, Apr 1, 2008, at 3:26 PM

I called the water company office and was told that yes there is a problem but the paper is making it sound worse then it really is, but as a precaution we need to boil our water. Okay I will boil my water! Now can the water company notify the residence. I have talked to several folks now and they knew nothing. Rebelrose don't wash that shirt it will get a headache and cramps LMBO!!!

-- Posted by truckindaddy on Tue, Apr 1, 2008, at 3:01 PM

I agree turbidity is not a joke. I just assumed that since we had a little bit of rain and seeing that today is April 1st. The paper was having some fun. " 2007 Peacetrace Article" But none the less I hope this could be resolved with no one getting ill.

-- Posted by mtsufan on Tue, Apr 1, 2008, at 2:51 PM

Turbidity is measured with an infrared type device that looks at clarity. When water is turbid, it is dirty. I don't think it is a joke. It is logical.

-- Posted by double t on Tue, Apr 1, 2008, at 2:35 PM

Another thing, Brian, as well meaning as the young man is and all is not really qualified just because he has a water license to be decision making on civil engineering issues. I know he is very untruthfull in many situations I had to deal with. Water companies should have full time oversight with a DEGREED ENGINEER either environmental,chemical, mechanical or civil. Not country bumpkin, Boss Hog in Hazard style management. I have had problems with this since day one. There are too many lives at stake. This really needs all us citizens to demand appropriate oversight

-- Posted by double t on Tue, Apr 1, 2008, at 2:32 PM

Turbity occurs when you have run off after a rain storm. This is an April Fool's Joke.

-- Posted by mtsufan on Tue, Apr 1, 2008, at 2:31 PM

Mail is too slow, this article took 4 days, I was sick this week-end, no wonder why..Wartrace water users are not so numerous that Brian and frinds can't get all of our e-mails and or phone numbers and do a robo-dial or mass e-mail alert like schools do.

-- Posted by double t on Tue, Apr 1, 2008, at 2:25 PM

One more thing I may be sending you a cleaning bill for my white shirt. I was drinking a cup of coffee when I was reading this and spit it out and it went all over my white shirt. Now I have coffee stains on my good white shirt. lol lol

-- Posted by rebelrose on Tue, Apr 1, 2008, at 2:06 PM

Just thought of this how long will we have to boil our water ???? 24 hours..2 days..3 days ?? You say it is from all the rain we have gotten. We have more rain coming and it looks like friday we are going to get alot of rain ?? What then ??? Do we now send you a bill for all the bottle water we have to buy ?? We pay around 60.00 a month for our water so all the day's we are having to boil our water and use bottle water will our meter keep running and being charged for water that is bad for us ??? Maybe Wartrace Water is going to buy the bottle water for us and we come by and get it from you guy's. YEA when H--- frezzes over ....

-- Posted by rebelrose on Tue, Apr 1, 2008, at 1:54 PM

One of my daughters is a Cascade student and she had a upset stomach for 7 days straight and that was almost 2 weeks ago. My husband works in Wartrace and his stomach was upset and he had a headache for about 5 days! Wonder how long this has been going on???

-- Posted by Disgusted on Tue, Apr 1, 2008, at 1:48 PM

Wartrace strikes again!!! I just so happen to look at the paper online and see this breaking news story, I called those that I know or could think of. Then I wondered if there was maybe a notice in the mailbox, I went and checked and all that was there was my water bill. LMBO!!!!! Nobody knows what we live with. Somebody should pay better attention. You know this didn't happen overnight!!!

-- Posted by truckindaddy on Tue, Apr 1, 2008, at 1:45 PM

I just heard that they are at Cascade schools and are draining all the lines and are throwing out all the ice and cutting off the water fountains in the schools. Also draining the holding tanks that have water in them. One thing I do know about the school system is that they stay on top of things like this and always protect our children in our schools. The water people did not even call Cascade School to let them know. They found out thru someone else. Shame on you Wartrace Water you should have called the school right away.

-- Posted by rebelrose on Tue, Apr 1, 2008, at 1:37 PM

I would like to know where they cut the water off from wartrace? I would also like to know if we are using wartrace water or B.C.U.D. water? If we are on B.C.U.D. water did they purge the line from bell buckle or not? I live between wartrace and cascade school. With bell buckle cutting off wartrace water we dont know in this area what water we are using! If we are on wartrace water we need to boil and they can't justify charging us for the time they are cut off from wartrace , unless we are getting county water. I would like to know just where our water is coming from and how they are going to adjust our bill. Bell buckle is outragious on their water prices and policies anyway.

-- Posted by tn.moonshiner on Tue, Apr 1, 2008, at 1:29 PM

Just how long has this being on ????What about Cascade school ????? I live in wartrace and I have had a headache for 2 days and my husband and I have had a up-set stomach since last thursday...What about the people that do not buy a paper ?? Don't you think you should be going around putting a letter in everyone's mail box to let them know ??

-- Posted by rebelrose on Tue, Apr 1, 2008, at 1:11 PM

I live right outside the city limits of Wartrace but I get a bill from Bell Buckle so I assume I am served by Bell Buckle and not Wartrace. Is that correct?

-- Posted by jaxspike on Tue, Apr 1, 2008, at 12:05 PM

Yes, you're right, but they purchase their water from Wartrace, though they have disconnected from that source for the time being.

-- Posted by summerhill on Tue, Apr 1, 2008, at 12:20 PM

I live right outside the city limits of Wartrace but I get a bill from Bell Buckle so I assume I am served by Bell Buckle and not Wartrace. Is that correct?

-- Posted by jaxspike on Tue, Apr 1, 2008, at 12:05 PM

Here are a couple of good links explaining what this means.

http://www.gvrd.bc.ca/water/default.asp

http://www.water.ncsu.edu/watershedss/in...

-- Posted by SirJim on Tue, Apr 1, 2008, at 12:02 PM

What about the water already in the piping system. If the water at the plant tests fine, how long does it take to flush out the water stored in the pipes?

-- Posted by SirJim on Tue, Apr 1, 2008, at 11:56 AM

How do they plan to communicate this to all of the users of this water source? I just happened to read this on-line. Will there be a notice in my mailbox when I get home? What if you don't have a physical mailbox at your property address?

-- Posted by textileartist on Tue, Apr 1, 2008, at 11:35 AM


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