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Gordon feels the heat on phone open meetings plan

Wednesday, August 12, 2009

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U.S. Rep. Bart Gordon
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A few days after Bedford County's congressman said he would only meet with his constituents over the phone, Sixth District Rep. Bart Gordon changed his mind Tuesday and said he will hold three town hall events in upcoming weeks

Last Friday, Gordon announced that instead of meeting in person with citizens this year, he would hold two "telephone town hall events" on Aug. 21 to "discuss health care, the economy and other important issues."

The phone method would "allow me to better represent Middle Tennessee," said Gordon in a statement released last Friday, and would have permitted "more people across the 15 counties I represent to share their concerns and listen to the discussion."

But after taking criticism for the move, Gordon apparently changed his mind late Tuesday and added three more events.

According to Kent Syler, a spokesman for Gordon, the first town hall forum will be at 7 p.m. Monday at a location to be determined in Murfreesboro. The event will be moderated by The Daily News Journal.

Other meetings are scheduled in Putnam County and Sumner County on Tuesday and Wednesday.

Gordon criticized

The eariler decision by Gordon to change the format of the traditional town halls had drawn criticism from political opponents.

Lou Ann Zelenik, chairman of the Rutherford County Republican Party attacked Gordon on Monday for not meeting face to face with citizens and called on the congressman to "explain his votes to the people whom he represents."

Last week, Gordon changed his vote to "no" on an amendment declaring that no funds allocated under the health-care-reform bill could be used to pay for health plans that covered abortion, except when a woman's life was in danger or her pregnancy had resulted from rape or incest.

"His actions as a member of the House Energy and Commerce Committee as well as recent news accounts reveal how easily he turns his back on the values of the district and hands his vote over to the liberal leadership in Congress," Zelenik said. "Hiding from us to avoid criticism is disrespectful to the people of the 6th District."

However, the telephone town halls will still be held.

Those who are interested in participating in the calls can sign up by visiting www.house.gov/bart or by calling Gordon's Murfreesboro office at (615) 896-1986.

Registered participants will receive a phone call shortly before the start of the town hall and will hear instructions about how to listen, ask questions, and leave messages.

Meetings heated

As for Rep. Lincoln Davis of Tennessee's Fourth District, his Web site states he will be holding town meetings this month, but he will not return from the Middle East until this weekend and no events have been scheduled.

Last week, Lincoln spoke to "tea party" protesters who showed up unannounced at his appearance in Manchester, turning it into an impromptu, unscripted town hall meeting.

Congressional town hall meetings around the country have turned confrontational, with representatives faced with protesters, upset about the on-going health care reform debate and other controversial legislation, and the meetings have occasionally devolved into shouting matches.

Some of the activists who have shown up at town hall meetings held recently by Sen. Arlen Specter, D-Pa., Rep. Steve Kagen, D-Wis., and others are affiliated with loosely connected right-leaning groups, including Conservatives for Patients' Rights and Americans for Prosperity, according to officials at those groups. Some of the activists say they came together during the "Tea Party" protests that happened earlier this year, and they've formed small groups and stayed in touch over e-mail, Facebook and in other ways.

But they insist they're part of a ground-level movement that represents real frustration with government spending and growth.

President Barack Obama referenced the opposition in a fund raising e-mail sent by his political group, Organizing for America, and asked his supporters to attend events to show their support for his health care plans.

"There are those who profit from the status quo or see this debate as a political game, and they will stop at nothing to block reform," the president said. "They are filling the airwaves and the Internet with outrageous falsehoods to scare people into opposing change."

Last Thursday, Organizing for America sent out targeted e-mails inviting supporters to specific events in their area. "Make sure that the most powerful voices in this debate are those calling for real reform, not angrily clamoring for the status quo," said e-mails asking people to show up Thursday evening for town halls with Maryland Reps. Donna Edwards and Frank Kratovil Jr.

Also last week, the AFL-CIO announced plans to mobilize labor activists to attend town hall meetings in 50 congressional districts this month to counter the conservative protesters.

-- The Associated Press contributed to this report.


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Nice move by the left... organize the union to bring the thugs they have on the payroll to "counter the conservative protesters" by whacking a few knees. That'll fix them pesky concerned citizens.

-- Posted by superx1250 on Wed, Aug 12, 2009, at 10:29 AM

superx1250,

It goes both ways though. Protesters on both sides of the fence are not making much sense.

I think the main issue is there is no real points being made on how it is going to work. I have only seen one interview that actually made any sense on what to expect and how it is supposed to work.

I just wish some of the interviewers would just ask the right questions.

-- Posted by Evil Monkey on Wed, Aug 12, 2009, at 11:47 AM

"Some of the activists who have shown up at town hall meetings "

ACTIVISTS! This isn't supposed to be an OPed but an article. I just looked up an event, canceled my day and just showed up, knowing no one, but mad as hell at the Commie turns this country is taking, and being run by lazy leach suckers that want something for nothing and I am an ACTIVIST. The lies propogated by this media is what has people mad.

-- Posted by East side on Wed, Aug 12, 2009, at 12:02 PM
Response by John Carney:
I doubt anyone who knows Brian Mosely would ever accuse him of being part of the liberal media, and most people who know him would find that kind of amusing.

Here's the dictionary definition of "activism":

* Main Entry: ac·tiv·ism

* Pronunciation: \ˈak-ti-ˌvi-zəm\

* Function: noun

* Date: 1915

: a doctrine or practice that emphasizes direct vigorous action especially in support of or opposition to one side of a controversial issue

-- ac·tiv·ist \-vist\ noun or adjective

-- ac·tiv·is·tic \ˌak-ti-ˈvis-tik\ adjective

If you show up at an open meeting because you're angry at the particular administration now in charge, and want to let someone know about it, you can fairly, and without bias, be called an activist. If you show up because you're gung-ho in favor of the particular administration in charge and want them to hold their ground, you can also be called an activist.

I too am mad as he!& and want to be heard. However, I don't think screaming matches are helping anyone but the left. We need to present a united front and fight with logic and not screams...that stumps em every time!

-- Posted by jtjustice30 on Wed, Aug 12, 2009, at 12:54 PM

After we went to press this morning, Gordon's office released the following dates:

Gordon's August schedule follows (note: additional events may be added):

* August 21: Two Telephone Town Halls -- one at 11 a.m. CDT and another at 5:30 p.m. CDT (to register, visit www.gordon.house.gov or call 615-896-1986).

* August 24: Face-to-Face office hours, starting at 9:00 a.m. CDT, at the Patterson Park Community Center (521 Mercury Blvd., Murfreesboro, 37130).

* August 24: Town Hall meeting, moderated by the Daily News Journal, at 7:00 p.m. CDT in Murfreesboro (location, to be determined).

* August 25: Face-to-Face office hours, starting at 9:00 a.m. CDT, at the Putnam County Courthouse (300 E. Spring St., Cookeville, 38501).

* August 26: Face-to-Face office hours, starting at 9:00 a.m. CDT, at the Sumner County Courthouse (100 Public Sq., Room B-100, Gallatin, 37066).

* August 26: Town Hall meeting, moderated by Mike Towle of The News-Examiner at 7:00 p.m. CDT in Gallatin (location, to be determined).

-- Posted by Brian Mosely on Wed, Aug 12, 2009, at 1:45 PM

It's understandable that any public official who wants to discuss proposed health care reform would be reluctant to conduct public meetings. The orchestrated scripted and often rude disruptions make it impossible to have a debate on the subject and impossible for those public officials to answer questions. Some of them have bordered on being dangerous situations. Regardless of anyone's views on health care reform, a discussion on the subject is needed, but apparently not possible - at least not in a public forum. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/#32...

-- Posted by suealli on Wed, Aug 12, 2009, at 7:19 PM

It's funny how far left fringe thinks anyone who disagrees with them is funded and orchestrated (good talking-point word suealli) by special interests, i.e. insurance companies and the RNC. I know precious few who like insurance companies, yet 90% of Americans have health insurance. To destroy everything in hopes of picking up 7.5% (Congressional Budget Office estimates 97.5% as the maximum who would be insured), while spending over $1 trillion more should make everyone upset, not orchestrated. Oh, I voted for Rep. Gordon...I just don't think he is listening to the majority on health care or on Cap-and-Trade.

-- Posted by goodgrief on Wed, Aug 12, 2009, at 9:00 PM

Which statement best summarizes your feelings about Shelbyville Recreation Center?

* It's an asset to the community, and a benefit to those who can not afford for-profit gyms, even if it does require a public subsidy.: 68.9% (294 votes)

* It's a luxury and should be closed or sold in this tight economic situation.: 8.2% (35 votes)

* It competes unfairly with for-profit local gyms.: 2.3% (10 votes)

* It should cut back programs and/or raise fees until it is self-supporting.: 20.6% (88 votes)

427 votes cast

I bet the same people voting for this Socialist Park are the same people who say Health care for all is Socialism. Lol! It's a shame people are not asking, WWJD? I will pray for those who hate The United States of America.

-- Posted by mayberry on Wed, Aug 12, 2009, at 10:36 PM

suealli.... Your story came from MSNBC? The right arm of the Obama propaganda machine.

How come liberal Groups like Acorn and Act Up can organize protest and no one calls them orchestrated? But if conservatives express their point of view, it's called "media driven" "orchestrated" etc? Liberals can dish it out but can't take it. Obama and Pelosi are shocked that we just didn't let them do EVERYTHING they wanted to do. I can't wait for the Nov 2010 congressional elections. We get to see many of these punk Democrats ridden right out of town because they refused to listen to the REAL people. The people who worked hard for their money and will not let a socialist party start taking their earnings and giving to those who have long lived off of the government.

-- Posted by sameoldstory on Thu, Aug 13, 2009, at 5:15 AM

yes, asking the congressmen to actually read a bill before voting on it is soo silly. That's one of the main questions being asked and the ignorance is astounding. Read the bill. My husband and I scanned it last night and it was truly terrifying. $5000 deductibles are not cool.

Thankfully, there is a better way to reform health care that will preserve both patient's and doctor's rights.

1. Reform the tort system so there are not "lottery-style" settlements. This will affect costs in two ways:

a. Doctors will not order extra tests to cover themselves in court.

b. Their malpractice insurance will be much, much lower and they will pass on the savings if the environment is competitive.

2. Make health insurance policies portable so that they are not tied to an employer and can travel across state lines. If you could by health insurance like you do car insurance, the prices would be competitive.

Then you can begin to discuss what to do with the 7% of Americans that are not currently insured.

Once you reform health care in this way, then you can discuss weaning the public off of Medicaid and Medicare, which WILL go broke within the next 20 years.

60% is the Average cancer survival rate (all types) for patients in the United States. Canada's survival rate is significantly lower at 55%, while Europe's is a dismal 48%.

Why is that?

Overall, according to a study published in Lancet Oncology last year, five-year cancer survival rates are higher in the U.S. than those in Canada. Based on data from the Joint Canada/U.S. Survey of Health (done by Statistics Canada and the U.S. National Center for Health Statistics), Americans have greater access to preventive screening tests and have higher treatment rates for chronic illnesses. No wonder: To limit the growth in health spending, governments restrict the supply of health care by rationing it through waiting. The same survey data show, as June and Paul O'Neill note in a paper published in 2007 in the Forum for Health Economics & Policy, that the poor under socialized medicine seem to be less healthy relative to the nonpoor than their American counterparts.

The government cuts costs by not covering things like pap smears, mammograms, prostate screenings. If you look around online, you can find that while over 90% of American women have had a pap smear, less than 75% of British women had.

I've got health insurance, but some of my friends don't, but they still go to the hosptial when they need to. The hospital has signs all over it that say:

"NO ONE WILL BE DENIED CARE BECAUSE OF INABILITY TO PAY"

So don't tell me we don't take care of sick folks in this country. They may get a bill, but they still get treated.

You can't put a price on your health.

I wish I still lived in the 6th district so I could campaign against Bart. Go Dave!

-- Posted by ptmom321 on Thu, Aug 13, 2009, at 6:28 PM


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