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CORRECTED: House hopefuls square off at forum

Thursday, August 20, 2009

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Candidates, from left, Joseph Byrd, Bobby Scott, Chris Brown, Casey Walters and Pat Marsh participated in a candidate forum Tuesday night.
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Correction

The Times-Gazette mis-reported Marsh's comments on federal stimulus money at a Tuesday night candidate forum. Although Marsh, like other candidates, was critical of the stimulus program, he said that if there were few conditions or restrictions placed on the use of the money, he would probably accept it.

The Times-Gazette apologizes for the error and is happy to set the record straight. The story below has been corrected.


Five of the six candidates for the vacant 62nd District State House of Representatives seat faced each other in a candidate forum Tuesday night at Central High School, sponsored by the Bedford County Republican Women.

Republican primary candidates Joseph Byrd, Pat Marsh, Bobby Scott and Casey Walters, and independent candidate Chris Brown, who identifies himself as a member of the Constitution Party, participated in the debate, while unopposed Democratic primary candidate Ty Cobb did not, citing a schedule conflict.



Early voting is now underway for the party primaries, which will be held Aug. 27. The general election will be Oct. 13.

The vacancy was created by the resignation of incumbent Curt Cobb, a Democrat from Shelbyville, who accepted the position of Bedford County Clerk and Master effective July 1.

Carl Bailey moderated Tuesday night's debate. Each question was directed towards a particular candidate, but the other candidates could then offer their responses.

Here are some of the topics discussed.

BEP funding

The first question had to do with the Basic Education Program as it is currently funded.

Brown said he would not support keeping BEP funding as is.

"Not at the current level," he said. "We need better education in the system. We need to figure out how to cut the cost spending on our buildings, and start putting more of that ... funding into the principals, and to the school teachers, and to the books that they need. We also need to go into Internet courses for our home study students."

Marsh, however, defended the program.

"Well," he said, "I've talked to several education people in both counties about this program, and they feel like that the Basic Education Program is ... a whole lot better than the program they had back in the late 80s and early 90s."

A question about how best to help small businesses prompted Walters to return to the education issue.

"The better educated people are, the better jobs they have," said Walters. "The better jobs they have, the more pay goes back into the economy. We need to help businesses."

Walters praised the "2+2" program which allows students to earn a degree from Tennessee Technological University in Cookeville through course work on the campus of Motlow State Community College.

"I am a small business owner," said Marsh, "and I can say that I think one thing that we should do is to keep government out of our way, to lower our taxes. I think taxes are a very big hindrance to small business today."

Byrd complained about a situation where he said a small business is owed money by the state which is not being paid.

Health care

Health care is an issue on the national stage right now, and the candidates were asked for their opinions.

"I think that the United States has, probably, one of the best health care systems in the world," said Marsh. "But I do think that it does need some changes. It needs tweaking. But I, for one, I don't want the government telling me which doctor I can go to, which doctor I cannot go to, or how long I have to wait before I can go to the doctor."

Walters also criticized any single-payer "public option" plan.

"I absolutely do not support our current president's health plan, at all, in any way, shape, form or fashion," said Walters. "That needs to be scrapped and thrown off the table .... We do not need any government involvement except for regulations."

"First of all," said Scott, "it's a fundamental principle that we do not have a right to health care. It is not a right; the government has no business being involved in it. The only regulation the government should be involved in are things such as pre-existing conditions ... allowing people to take health care from one job to another, their health insurance from one job to another. And you've got to get a handle on ... illegal immigration, which is fueling our health care system."

Byrd cited the case of someone with a pre-existing condition, can't get on employee health care, but with income too high to get on TennCare.

Stimulus money

The candidates were asked what the state should do about federal stimulus money.

"I am totally opposed to this program," Marsh said. "I don't think that the United States has the money to spend; I don't think getting deeper in debt is the solution."

Marsh said, however, that if there were few restrictions on the money he would probably have accepted it.

"We should not have taken it," said Scott. "We should give it back."

Walters said the money should be kept in a reserve fund but eventually returned.

"The stimulus is going to last two years," he said.

Brown said some stimulus-funded programs have provided benefits.

"The stimulus money did help the senior citizens in Lincoln, Moore, Bedford and the rest of the counties in the area of transportation," he said. "Do we need to tell our seniors we need to send that money back?"

Byrd said stimulus-funded road programs aren't needed.

"Nashville has done a lot with roads anyway," he said. "We've got good roads. I agree with Mr. Marsh and Mr. Scott; we should give it back."

Other issues

During a question about an automatic weapons ban, Brown quipped that he needed 90 rounds of ammunition to kill a duck, prompting Scott to respond that he wouldn't want to eat the duck in question.

In response to a question about frivolous lawsuits, Walters mentioned a case where illegal aliens were suing a county sheriff over violation of their constitutional rights, saying that as non-citizens, they should not have such protections.

Marsh said he would support a system where the loser of a lawsuit found to be frivolous would pay the court costs.

Brown said existing rules already prohibit truly frivolous lawsuits and said it's a lawsuit is only frivolous to someone who is not a party to it.

The debate was carried live by radio stations in Shelbyville and Fayetteville and was recorded for airing on cable television.


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Anybody hear how it went last night?

-- Posted by ah64dive on Wed, Aug 19, 2009, at 12:23 PM

Sounds like five "puppets" for the Republican party...how is one to choose when they all sound alike?

-- Posted by reader_2 on Wed, Aug 19, 2009, at 3:07 PM

At least they're saying the right things. Beats the alternative. Besides, it is a primary.

-- Posted by DoubleJ on Wed, Aug 19, 2009, at 4:06 PM

This is Bobby Scott. Just wanted to correct a mistake made by the reporter in one of the quotes attributed to me. The incorrect quote was recorded as:

"First of all," said Scott, "it's a fundamental principle that we do not have a right to health care. It is not a right; the government has no business being involved in it. The only regulation the government should be involved in are things such as pre-existing conditions ... allowing people to take health care from one job to another, their health insurance from one job to another. And you've got to get a handle on ... illegal immigration, which is fueling our health care system."

This is an easy correction, because the quote in question is the first of two clips shown of me in the video that is embedded. The video gives the statement clarity.

In the correct quote the last line is actually:

"...illegal immigration, which is KILLING our health care system."

As you can see, my meaning and the misquoted comment are different. I do not believe that illegal immigration is "fueling" our system; but just the opposite... it is KILLING it. I do look forward to the Times-Gazette correcting this misquote.

By the way, I hope all will take time to watch the full debate with the ending statements from each candidate; because I am sure it will be rebroadcast at some point. I think those three minutes from each at the end gives a better idea and feel for each of the candidates.

Thanks, and if you want to email me for further information, go to the "Contact" tab on www.scotthousetn.com

By the way, the final clip outlines my take on gun ownership by law abiding citizens... and overshot ducks.

-- Posted by BobbyScott on Wed, Aug 19, 2009, at 4:12 PM

So, illegal immigration is killing the health care system? I am curious how. There are always expenses and extra costs on the health care system, but I don't see how it is "killing" the system. It may be a burden, yes, but not killing it. Sadly, if I were to rank in order what is destroying our system, then I would say, obesity.

-- Posted by dooshie69 on Wed, Aug 19, 2009, at 4:35 PM

I am so disappointed in Mr.Cobb.He should of been there at that debate.

If he can't be there for it,how do we know he will be there if he is voted in??

His brother will be a hard person to fill his shoes, no matter who wins it,

We will miss you so much.Good luck with your new job,

-- Posted by Wheelbillie on Wed, Aug 19, 2009, at 8:48 PM

I spoke with Ty personally and asked him if he was coming to the forum and he said that he had a previous engagement scheduled before he was invited. He did want to come and I would have enjoyed having him there also, so everyone could see all of us and all of our views.

-- Posted by caseywalters on Wed, Aug 19, 2009, at 9:07 PM

Also the above article is wrong in stating that when asked what they'd do with the stimulus money Pat Marsh said he'd give it back. He actually said that he would spend it because somebody would end up getting it anyways. I just wanted to clear that up. Casey Walters said that he would put it in a reserve fund and when the time came, we would give it right back which I think is the right answer.

I thought it went well. I thought it was odd that Pat Marsh would barely look at the audience when addressing the questions. I feel like Pat is going in there more for self-interest and I don't like his voting record. I liked Joseph Byrd and Chris Brown okay, but I feel like they are a little too laid back. I thought Bobby Scott had charisma, but I feel like he could be bullied at the capitol. I liked Casey Walters' straight-fowardness and thought he had a lot of really good answers. After the debate, honestly, he's who I believe needs to be in there. He's a go-getter and has the aggression that we need at the capitol to get things done.

I overheard some of the candidates talking after the debate and saying that they weren't told there was going to be a 3 minute speech at the end. Funny how Pat Marsh had a prepared speech that was exactly 3 minutes long..... that he read with barely looking up at all. The other candidates did well with there 3 minute speeches without knowing about it beforehand.

Has anyone looked at the candidates' websites yet?

-- Posted by countrygal26 on Wed, Aug 19, 2009, at 9:18 PM

I believe everyone needs to really take a look at all the prospects and see who really is in it for the people and not their own personal use and recognition. I want someone who is in it to help our people and not their businesses and names. Which ones have been in the military and know for which this country was built? Who is in it to help protect our personal rights and our constitutional rights? Why don't they all tell us about that? I want someone who wants the best for all our families and knows something about the laws. Has anyone got any kind of experience in knowing anything about the laws for our people? Does any of them care? I want to hear those kinds of things. We have to pay to send our kids to school and then furnish their stuff and enough for others. The schools use to have enough money to take care of that stuff. Why is it they want our kids to have an education, but we have to go in debt to give them that? We can put other country's kids through school, and then they come back and use it against us. We want the best for our kids, but can't even afford to do it anymore. We can help all these other countries, but could care less about our own people. We can send our children off to fight and die for our rights, but yet they still take them away. Our rights are slowly being picked away by these people and we're letting them do it. Vote for someone who is out to protect our rights and to you politicians, let us know more about you!!! Give us an idea of what we are getting if we vote for you.

-- Posted by sawyers69 on Wed, Aug 19, 2009, at 10:19 PM

sawyers69, if you go to my web site (www.caseywaltersrep.com)I believe all your questions will be answered about me, Casey Walters. My email and phone number are listed on the web site so you can contact me if you have any concerns. I stated in the forum that this is going to be my primary job when elected so I will do nothing but fight for the citizens. I have had some experience in the legal arena, I worked as a deputy court clerk in Shelby County TN and also as a corrections officer in Lincoln County. I carry the U.S. constitution with me everywhere so I can have it handy and study it often. I agree with you, we need to put our citizens in charge of government once again so we can be heard. Politicians have lost touch with us along with the rich and elite, so how can they represent us if they aren't truly one of us. When you call me I answer the phone, not someone else and that is how accessible our representatives should be. I don't do things politically correct, I do things straight forward with the intent on getting results in a timely and efficient manner.

-- Posted by caseywalters on Wed, Aug 19, 2009, at 11:25 PM

I did like Casey Walters's response more than the rest of the other candidates but I really liked the job Curt Cobb did and wonder if his brother will be of the same character because that is what I am looking for in a candidate.

I am kind of in limbo at the moment . . . I really want a candidate who isn't too far to the left or right who has common sense and understand the average American and what they go through each and every day. We definitely don't need any more "career politicians" in office!

-- Posted by jaxspike on Thu, Aug 20, 2009, at 7:41 AM

I checked Pat Marsh's voting record in Bedford Co. as Walter Casey has much well publicized. That is true that he has voted 10 out of 12 Democrat. It is untrue what Pat Marsh said that there hasn't been a Republican candidate to vote for in Bedford Co. and that it's the reason he has voted Democrat. Now, it's mighty funny that there were 300+ Republicans that registered Republican to vote for Chris Brown for Bedford Co. Sheriff during a Republican primary. Sen. Jim Tracy, Barbara Blanton, Carl Bailey and a bunch of others at least registered to vote for Brown, but Pat Marsh didn't, he voted Democrat.

Enough about all that. If you are sick and tired of Republicans and Democrats fighting over stupid stuff, here is something to think about and consider. This is the first time your vote would really count in the state of TN. The House is 50/50. If we vote to put in an Independent Constitution Party the people of Bedford Co., Lincoln Co., and Rutherford could make a difference and history, because that candidate could be the deciding vote that could help prevent the two big parties from messing over the citizens of TN. That is something to think about for this upcoming election. We the people would have a say. Let's get this tea party going.

-- Posted by sawyers69 on Sun, Aug 23, 2009, at 6:33 PM


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