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BREAKING: Schools issue policy on Obama speech

Friday, September 4, 2009 ~ Updated 10:19 PM
In a statement issued Friday evening to principals, administrators and the Times-Gazette, Bedford County School Superintendent Ed Gray said that most local classrooms will not watch President Obama's back-to-school speech live on Tuesday.

Gray cited the demands of the instructional schedule and the danger of politicizing the classroom. He said teachers may record and review the speech and, if they feel it ties in with the curriculum, they may request to play it for students at a later date. He said some high school social studies classes may be allowed to watch the speech live.

For more details, see Sunday's Times-Gazette.


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Thank the Lord!!! I was afraid I was going to have to keep my child at home on Tuesday! Is anyone going to be watching this?!?!?!?

-- Posted by bcpwoman on Sat, Sep 5, 2009, at 4:20 AM

He is our president what is wrong with our country ,it is ok if it is a religious groop or church that wants to talk to our children or the beliefs of science or God created the earth

-- Posted by sandyl67 on Sat, Sep 5, 2009, at 7:53 AM

Thank you Mr. Gray!

-- Posted by Schooldaze on Sat, Sep 5, 2009, at 7:59 AM

If you have read the news about this address to the children, you would see the reasons for our concerns. At first, the president was going to ask our kids to draft a letter to themselves on what they can do to help our president. This letter was going to be collected by the teachers and then a lesson plan that the president developed was going to be followed throughout the year. Then at a later date, the letters were going to be returned to the students. This was to help teach the students about being held accountable for your actions.

The president received so much critisism for the planned address and lesson plan that he changed the wording, saying that maybe it wasn't "artfully" worded. Now the letter that they are goingbto draft is going to be about how they can achieve their long-term and short-term educational goals.

It doesn't sound right to me. The young minds of our students are very impressionable and I fear that our president and his administration have a hidden agenda.

This will only disrupt classes and their current lessons.

This was univited as well.

I thank the school board officials for taking their stand on this.

-- Posted by Coony on Sat, Sep 5, 2009, at 9:03 AM

What is wrong with this country? We have allowed the beliefs of our founding fathers to be trampled. We have allowed government to try to regulate every dimension of our lives so we don't have to be held accountable. We have turned from God's grace and the teachings of the Bible in order to pacify diversive life styles. We are turning a blind eye to history and what it has wrought in order to not seem offensive to other cultures.

President Obama represents views that I am against on many fronts. The responsibility of one's children and the ultimate morals and beliefs instilled in them belongs to the parents and not to political figures, celebrities, or liberal leaning publications. Fortunately, my children are now entering young adulthood and will not be forced to listen to a person whose views and leadership go against the grain and moral code of personal responsibility that has been instilled in them at home. They understand that they are free to make their own choices but also understand the consequences of poor choices that they make and the responsibility falls back onto them. They will not be "bailed" out. Very young children are influenced by many things and authoritive figures .... they do not have the insight as of yet to weigh the input and filter what may be okay or good and what may be harmful or bad. I have no qualms about high school students listening to the President, if they so choose, and forming their own decisions. I think Superintendent Ed Gray made a good decision.

-- Posted by M Welsh on Sat, Sep 5, 2009, at 9:14 AM

Mr. Gray says that he is not allowing the speech to be shown due to the danger of "politicizing the classroom." But isn't that exactly what he has done? Has anyone actually seen the totality of the speech. And these people that don't want their children to watch, what are they afraid of? That there are two sides to everything?

-- Posted by Tyger on Sat, Sep 5, 2009, at 9:39 AM

Shame Shame, now all of you parents who have been Screaming about the dress code know what to do.....relate it to Obama, and it will be changed. The school system doesn't mind taking and misusing the Federal funds it receives by the MILLIONS, but it will not allow the man whose signature gave them those millions to speak to it's recipients. As a mirror to a failing system, producing a small fraction of college bound students, a county with one of the highest unemployment rates, no...let's not let these students know what could be accomplished by furthering your education. Let's hold them tightly with paranoia and start preparing to support them for the rest of our lives!!

-- Posted by Freedomof Speech on Sat, Sep 5, 2009, at 10:05 AM

The very idea of Obama's sppech to our impressionable young minds sounds like indoctrination to me, much like other third world nations have done. I think Mr.Gray is correct in not showing it.

-- Posted by justwanaknow on Sat, Sep 5, 2009, at 10:08 AM

I am so ashamed of our country and the mass hysteria that is going on right now. He is our president for goodness sakes. He has the right to address our students and ask them to stay in school. He also has the right to ask them what they can do to help him and our country. Remember Kennedy's speech, "Ask not what your country can do for you; ask what you can do for your country." It isn't any different than that.

I am just disgusted, totally disgusted. All of you who were shouting we needed to respect Bush while he was in office are showing very little respect to our president now.

-- Posted by tamb on Sat, Sep 5, 2009, at 10:16 AM

Reagan and Bush gave speeches to our students, too. I was in school then and remember them. How is it any different?

-- Posted by tamb on Sat, Sep 5, 2009, at 10:17 AM

Other presidents HAVE given speeches in the past. (no debate) Other presidents had their agendas. (no debate)

I don't recall ANY other president finding the WORST time EVER to consult with MY CHILD in "claiming" to actually have two cents worth of care about MY CHILD's education....any debates?

oh, and bty, I don't call it politicizing my child if I consider keeping my child/children at home. I call it PROTECTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and WE, not YOU, the school board, or ANY ONE ELSE ON THIS EARTH has ANY right to look down their noses about it!!!

-- Posted by riebenchild on Sat, Sep 5, 2009, at 11:05 AM

Mr. Gray, If John McCain were president, what would your position be? Your action is UNAMERICAN

-- Posted by chs61 on Sat, Sep 5, 2009, at 11:13 AM

I am not sure how I feel about this I really do not see anything wrong with Obama speaking to the children about education if that is what he plans .Problem is he really hasn't said what he plans on saying to the children and I think this is what upsets most people.

If Obama is going to tout his United We Serve program then I really see no problem with it, if I am not mistaken part of that program was to help these students go to college through community services. Which I think is a great idea, these kids work community services so many hours and get so much in College credits towards their tuition. I personally am not an Obama Fan Club member but I do like many of his ideas but he has been blasted as a socialist and a communist so much I think the man is afraid to open his mouth anymore about any of his good plans.

Remember how people reacted when he spoke of community service for college tuition? The right called it military camps for our children and working our children for free like they were slaves.

I can't say I blame him for not saying too much about what is in his speech.

But I am sure after it airs on Tuesday every parent in Bedford County will be able to view his speech in full and decide for themself if it is something they wish for their children to view without the School Board's approval.

Maybe Obama should have considered sending out a copy of his speech to every state's school board so they could have seen it was not a political speech.

-- Posted by Dianatn on Sat, Sep 5, 2009, at 11:26 AM

I agree with what someone said earlier. Read EXACTLY what Obama wants children to gain from this. He has a hidden agenda, there's no doubt. If something weren't going terribly wrong, there wouldn't be numerous rallies and protests to have him impeached around the country right now. If anything, I believe he is making an attempt at destroying democracy and creating a dictatorship and a socialistic economy. HE is going against and destroying what this country was founded on. Just saying.

-- Posted by schs_senior on Sat, Sep 5, 2009, at 11:31 AM

I have read that the address to the schools will be available for review on Monday on the Internet.

-- Posted by Coony on Sat, Sep 5, 2009, at 11:37 AM

I may be looking at this wrong here schs_senior but isn't what the School Board is doing just as socialist and dictatorship as what you feel Obama is doing? Isn't the School Board denying the children the rights of freedom of expression and now they are denying the same children the right to listen and form their own opinions of Obama's speech? It doesn't matter which dictator you listen to a dictatorship is still a dictatorship in the end.

-- Posted by Dianatn on Sat, Sep 5, 2009, at 11:44 AM

That's a good point, Dianatn. But the difference is in the agendas. We know what the school board's purpose is. Even after the dress code and all of the debate around it. I still feel that the school board is trying to achieve what is best for the students and their education. We don't know Obama's agenda. With so much unrest in the country over Obama's ideas on how to fix the nation and the nation's economy, I can understand why people are leary of him and his desire to address the students. I see why folks are saying that this country will become socialist. They are reading between the lines and have every right to believe that.

And if... I say IF our president has a hidden agenda and that agenda in the long term is to create a socialistic society or economy; where should he start with his plan? If it were me, I'd start with the kids.

-- Posted by Coony on Sat, Sep 5, 2009, at 12:05 PM

Please don't get me wrong I am not saying I agree with Obama's speech because I have no idea what is in it.. all I am saying is every socialistic idea ever, contains the words "For your own good".

When "any" government body starts out by saying we are doing this "for your own good" we are leaning towards socialism. We have been headed down that road for quite some time but I do agree the road seems to be getting wider but we have stood by and let it get wider.

-- Posted by Dianatn on Sat, Sep 5, 2009, at 12:14 PM

Cheers to Diana..tamb! In the article when Mr. Gray was so grateful for the Stimulus money being provided to the school system, I didn't see his political stance then. Does this mean the jobs, supplies, and lighting provided by this money will be terminated?? Coward of the County will be a new name for him. The "demands of the instructional schedule" should be considered for everyday our students Do Not go to school...how much time and instructional value are lost during The Celebration?

-- Posted by Freedomof Speech on Sat, Sep 5, 2009, at 12:15 PM

No matter what you think about Obama, he isn't stupid. He isn't going to try to brainwash little kids to go home to their parents to tout socialistic ideals. It just isn't going to happen that way. He's going to tell them to stay in school, ask them to set goals for themselves and ask them to find ways to help out this country. There is nothing, not one thing, wrong with that.

Every president has an agenda. I will not disagree with that, but that's not the point of this address. I am sick of the mass hysteria over this president. He hasn't done anything worse than any other president has. In fact, many have done even worse than he has, and yet, he's been called the anti-Christ, anti-American, socialist, the next Hitler, etc.

People should be ashamed of themselves, and I'm not just talking about the people around here. Anyone who is disrespectful of this president but got up in arms when someone wasn't respectful of Bush is a hypocrit, pure and simple. I didn't agree with Bush on anything at all, but we still watched him give speeches in this house. He was our president and deserved that respect, even if I didn't like him or what he stood for. If you feel like Bush deserved respect just because he was president, then Obama deserves the same.

Mass hysteria is never a good thing, and this is looking more and more like that.

-- Posted by tamb on Sat, Sep 5, 2009, at 12:46 PM

Freedoomof Speech,

Here goes another citizen of this county moaning and groaning about The Celebration. I bet you'll still be moaning and groaning when there is no Celebration and we have no tax dollars in Bedford County. I totally agree with Mr. Gray's decision and heaven forbid you be left making decisions for our school students.

-- Posted by bamaman55 on Sat, Sep 5, 2009, at 12:47 PM

The lesson plan of the speech that is online at the Whitehouse website smacks of indoctrination.

I will copy and paste it for you here. Or if you like you may go to the Whitehouse site at the following url. Its listed as a link under Classroom Engagement Resources

http://www.whitehouse.gov/mediaresources...

From a historical content it is very similar to what the Nazis did with their Hitler Youth. That is my opinion at this time.

The speech itself is supposed to be available online on Labor day for parents to review.

Menu of Classroom Activities

President Obamafs Address to Students Across America

(PreK]6)

Produced by Teaching Ambassador Fellows, U.S. Department of Education

September 8, 2009

Before the Speech

Teachers can build background knowledge about the President of the United States and his speech by reading books about presidents and Barack Obama. Teachers could motivate students by asking the following questions:

Who is the President of the United States?

What do you think it takes to be president?

To whom do you think the president is going to be speaking?

Why do you think he wants to speak to you?

What do you think he will say to you?

Teachers can ask students to imagine that they are delivering a speech to all of the students in the United States.

If you were the president, what would you tell students?

What can students do to help in our schools?

Teachers can chart ideas about what students would say.

Why is it important that we listen to the president and other elected officials, like the mayor, senators, members of congress, or the governor? Why is what they say important?

During the Speech

As the president speaks, teachers can ask students to write down key ideas or phrases that are important or personally meaningful. Students could use a note]taking graphic organizer such as a gcluster web;h or, students could record their thoughts on sticky notes. Younger children could draw pictures and write as appropriate. As students listen to the speech, they could think about the following:

What is the president trying to tell me?

What is the president asking me to do?

What new ideas and actions is the president challenging me to think about?

Students could record important parts of the speech where the president is asking them to do something. Students might think about the following:

What specific job is he asking me to do?

Is he asking anything of anyone else?

Teachers? Principals? Parents? The American people?

Students could record questions they have while he is speaking and then discuss them after the speech. Younger children may need to dictate their questions.

Menu of Classroom Activities (PreK]6) President Obamafs Address to Students Across America 2

After the Speech

Teachers could ask students to share the ideas they recorded, exchange sticky notes, or place notes on a butcher]paper poster in the classroom to discuss main ideas from the speech, such as citizenship, personal responsibility, and civic duty.

Students could discuss their responses to the following questions:

What do you think the president wants us to do?

Does the speech make you want to do anything?

Are we able to do what President Obama is asking of us?

What would you like to tell the president?

Extension of the Speech

Teachers could extend learning by having students:

Create posters of their goals. Posters could be formatted in quadrants, puzzle pieces, or trails marked with the following labels: personal, academic, community, and country. Each area could be labeled with three steps for achieving goals in that area. It might make sense to focus first on personal and academic goals so that community and country goals can be more readily created.

Write letters to themselves about how they can achieve their short]term and long]term education goals. Teachers would collect and redistribute these letters at an appropriate later date to enable students to monitor their progress.

Write goals on colored index cards or precut designs to post around the classroom.

Interview one another and share goals with the class to create a supportive community.

Participate in school]wide incentive programs or contests for those students who achieve their goals.

Write about their goals in a variety of genres, such as poems, songs, and personal essays.

Create artistic projects based on the themes of their goals.

Graph individual progress toward goals.

-- Posted by Brett Favre on Sat, Sep 5, 2009, at 1:00 PM

I see nothing wrong with the lesson plan. He is simply asking them questions that will make them think about what he has said and pay attention. What's so wrong with that? Please point out what smacks of indoctrination because I simply don't see it at all. He's basically just asking them to make goals and be accountable for those goals. Again, I ask what is wrong with that?

-- Posted by tamb on Sat, Sep 5, 2009, at 1:04 PM

Looks like questions we've all asked our children, demanding our respect as Parents..i.e. "Who do you think you are talking to?"

Asking children to consider their goals, their community, participation in planning for their future, their individuality...don't shoot the messenger. These are all questions and conversations we have (hopefully) with our children, everyday, even begin with a command of attention from an authoritive figure..(coaches, teachers, principals, officers, the school board)

Asking our children to plan for the future, our interpretation or theirs, is not socialism, it's a conscious.

-- Posted by Freedomof Speech on Sat, Sep 5, 2009, at 2:28 PM

Create posters of their goals. Posters could be formatted in quadrants, puzzle pieces, or trails marked with the following labels: personal, academic, community, and country. Each area could be labeled with three steps for achieving goals in that area. It might make sense to focus first on personal and academic goals so that community and country goals can be more readily created.

What could be so wrong in this??

-- Posted by Freedomof Speech on Sat, Sep 5, 2009, at 2:30 PM

The school system doesn't mind taking and misusing the Federal funds it receives by the MILLIONS, but it will not allow the man whose signature gave them those millions to speak to it's recipients.

-- Posted by Freedomof Speech

obama borrowed trillions that the children will have to repay and gave them back a small percentage to use in their schools and you believe this gives him the right to speak to them???

Only if he means to apologize for robbing them blind!

-- Posted by quietmike on Sat, Sep 5, 2009, at 2:55 PM

The only problem I see with these lesson plans is when will the teachers have time for these activities he suggest? With all that is required for teachers to teach to the students from NCLB it leaves every little room for any extras.

I also wonder if certain schools (ie: Bedford County and others) do not participate in these lesson plans will there be some kind of penalty for not doing so?

-- Posted by Dianatn on Sat, Sep 5, 2009, at 4:06 PM

Ha Ha....they've received MILLIONS from the Federal Gov't since the public school system began, once again, nice try, Obama did not, do this single handed! It went through House and Senate, so many more ppl were involved.

But you can't make sense of my last post...? Common sense doesn't wear well on some ppl.

-- Posted by Freedomof Speech on Sat, Sep 5, 2009, at 4:26 PM

HELLO?? Looks like questions we've all asked our children, demanding our respect as Parents..i.e. "Who do you think you are talking to?"

Asking children to consider their goals, their community, participation in planning for their future, their individuality...don't shoot the messenger. These are all questions and conversations we have (hopefully) with our children, everyday, even begin with a command of attention from an authoritive figure..(coaches, teachers, principals, officers, the school board)

Asking our children to plan for the future, our interpretation or theirs, is not socialism, it's a conscious.

-- Posted by Freedomof Speech on Sat, Sep 5, 2009, at 4:27 PM

As I have not read/heard the entire speech that Obama plans to give, I will not offer an opinion in that regard. However, it is my personal opinion that at this point there is little if any need for Obama to address school children. When I was in school, the only time we ever saw a live Presidential address was when George Bush (the elder one) announced that we had invaded Kuwait. That was a very historically significant address which I am glad to have been able to witness it first-hand. Further, Obama enjoys being on TV just a bit too much. Everytime you turn around he is having some "Presidential Addresss" on primetime. I never have and never will watch any of his scripted song & dances. I agree that the speech should not be aired...there is just no reason for it.

-- Posted by jtjustice30 on Sat, Sep 5, 2009, at 5:49 PM

Justwanaknow - "like a third world country," really? In some third world countries people are being murdered by their own governments for disagreeing with them, is that seriously where you think we're headed?

-- Posted by cfrich on Sat, Sep 5, 2009, at 6:20 PM

did someone say Mr Gray was UNAMERICAN ? UNAMERICAN IS THE SOCIALIST AGENDA THAT OBAMA IS TRING TO PUSH ON EVERYONE !!

-- Posted by SteelerT on Sat, Sep 5, 2009, at 6:20 PM

It's like the town hall meetings that have been in the news so much lately. Why do you think we are having town hall meetings now? I am nearly 40 years old and can't remember ever seeing town hall meetings. Maybe one or two during a campaign, and those were simply a candidate trying to sell his platform to gain votes.

So where do you think the town hall meetings came from? Are we to assume that the men and women serving in congress have taken it upon themselves to hold these meetings? And the meetings continue even after some very grim outcomes. So who is pushing the meetings? Obama. That's who. It's coming straight from the top.

Now he is shifting gears and going to enlighten our children? I don't think so. He has something up his sleeve. He should leave educating our youth to the teachers.

-- Posted by Coony on Sat, Sep 5, 2009, at 6:48 PM

WOW!!!! I consider myself an independent, with views toward the republican conservative side. I am allowing my two boys to watch the President of the United States give his speech. My wife and I are the ones that influence our boys the most and I have no qualm letting them watch a historical speech. Come on people, this is not brain washing. There are some not so good teachers that impact your kids more than this speech from the President. Most kids probably won't remember what he said. "God is great, beer is good, and people are CRAZY!" Billy Currington.

-- Posted by tnhawks on Sat, Sep 5, 2009, at 7:05 PM

Yeah... Most probably won't remember the address. If Obama wants to reach our youth, he should send them all a text message!

-- Posted by Coony on Sat, Sep 5, 2009, at 7:08 PM

let's not let these students know what could be accomplished by furthering your education. Let's hold them tightly with paranoia and start preparing to support them for the rest of our lives!!

-- Posted by Freedomof Speech on Sat, Sep 5, 2009, at 10:05 AM

I have instilled in my children, pride in accomplishment, in winning and achieving good grades. They know what it feels like to win and loose. I don't need the President's help in getting my job as a parent done. Both of my children are honor students. To this point my wife and I have done it without input from the White House, and I will be damned if I need help from there now. The ones that we are now and will continue to support for the rest of their lives, as you so eloquently put it, are those who have and will continue to be repressed by the liberals as the ones who have not, and need the government to hand them everything they need to become a HAVE. That is not the course that my children will take. I thank you for your concern.

-- Posted by docudrama on Sat, Sep 5, 2009, at 7:11 PM

"He who controls the youth, controls the future."

Adolph Hitler. Obama said during the campaign that he wanted to start a home defense corps that would be on a par with the military. I can see Obama recruiting our youth to be "brownshirts". Hitler used his brownshirts to gain control until he could train his Waffen SS. Obama is a dangerous man.

-- Posted by firstmost on Sat, Sep 5, 2009, at 9:17 PM

Paranoia.

-- Posted by darrick_04 on Sat, Sep 5, 2009, at 9:21 PM

Ostrich syndrome.

-- Posted by quietmike on Sat, Sep 5, 2009, at 10:59 PM

By George, if we can't have GOD in schools, we damn sure don't need the devil in our schools!!!

-- Posted by jdl.7971 on Sat, Sep 5, 2009, at 11:35 PM

AMEN!! JDL

-- Posted by SteelerFan on Sun, Sep 6, 2009, at 1:27 AM

I am so surprised I have not heard anyone saying,"You will not show his speech because he is black". I have heard this crap till I am blue in the face.. To all of you on here to scared to talk about this, Shame on you.. I want to say to everyone like this,IT ISN'T A RACE THING!!! It is about taking a stand against a mistake. I personally think Obama is a good man, but he stinks as a leader. I am so glad that I see people speaking out against him. I mean everyone, Democrats, republicans, Wait, AMERICANS!

-- Posted by SteelerFan on Sun, Sep 6, 2009, at 1:37 AM

I read this bull crap and laugh, some of this is exactly because he is black...and your lieing to yourself if you deny it, he's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't. Bush almost destroyed this country, ran this country into the damn ground and Obama wants to inspire kids try to get them involved and i'm reading about all this total Bull crap about socialism. If Mccain was going to make this speech to kids i would bet my life i would not be reading this crap. Some people will never change, some of you rednecks would rather see the United States go totally bankrupt and broke before you would ever agree to anything Obama says. The republicans almost destroyed this country and its so much bigotry and just down right lies coming from some many of the people writing in these blogs its disgusting, then i'll hear ooh i'm not racist thats total bull crap, i guess the republican or the "good ole boys" would have run Gray out of town if would have allowed the Kids to watch the Obama speech and his reason for not allowing the kids to watch it is also bull crap, he couldn't come up with something better than he lame explanation...i see exactly whats happening here and i hope other people do as well.

-- Posted by slingshot on Sun, Sep 6, 2009, at 3:48 AM

Why do you right wingers have children in public schools, anyway? Public schools are socialist. Besides, they might learn critical thinking skills and stop believing all the crazy things you believe.

You should homeschool them, so you have more time to teach them how the earth is only 6,000 years old, evolution is a lie, and Obama is the anti-christ.

LMAO, you people are nuttier than squirrel poop.

-- Posted by Richard on Sun, Sep 6, 2009, at 4:11 AM

Just two words "Thank God"

-- Posted by michaelbell on Sun, Sep 6, 2009, at 6:20 AM

I don't have a problem with his speech but teachers are constantly reprimanded by the public for allowing anything to be said in the classroom that others disagree with so why should this be any different?

Most kids won't listen anyway and most of what he says appears to be all talk. He is not running this country. He is letting others do it for him and those who elected him received a big shock when he got in the WH and did nothing but spend money.

The problem is when parents don't speak to their children about anything and those kids are left to make uninformed decisions. I discuss everything with my kids(young adults now) and they don't always agree with me but I want them to be independent and make their own decisions. If you interact with your child daily about everything that is happening in the world, then this should not be a big deal.

My problem is with the government dictating so strenuously about what has to be taught and TESTED in the public schools.

-- Posted by neena on Sun, Sep 6, 2009, at 8:08 AM

JDL,,,,

Good comments, and in honor of you I post the following link.

http://images.sodahead.com/images/polls/...

And BTW to all of that are gonna call me a racist for linking this,,, don't!

Because Bush had a similar poster made of him.

http://henryjenkins.org/Joker%20Bush.png

It has come to a point now in this day and time, that now people are using the race card to bully the rest of us!! THEY BECOME THE RACIST by claiming that we are the racists in my opinion. Just look at this link and ponder it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIKPKjl0-...

Quite Frankly, the American Public is sick and tired of the Obama Administration pushing crap down our throats. We are sick and tired of his elitist attitude, that WE THE PEOPLE HAVE NO CLUE, and that HE and the politicians in Washington know best for us.

This backlash over the issue of Obama talking to our children in schools has more to do with the frustration that we feel as Americans at this point in time, with our current president. He is acting more like a dictator than a president; he is not listening to the people and we THE PEOPLE ARE DARN TIRED OF IT.

Just my thoughts, as I ponder my new season with the Vikings.

Wishing everyone a very happy Labor Day weekend.

-- Posted by Brett Favre on Sun, Sep 6, 2009, at 2:23 PM

Sorry to burst your bubble, but the American Public has not become "sick and tired of the Obama Administration pushing crap down our throats."; that is something only the conservatives believe. If they were, the servers at the White House and Congress would be crashing continually.

Brett, good luck with the Vikings, except when they play the Packers.

-- Posted by Tyger on Sun, Sep 6, 2009, at 3:12 PM

Tyger,

You wrong, the American Public is sick and tired of his tactics and his method of strong-arm politics, which are so prevalent in Chicago. Trust me I was born in Chicago, I understand the system there.

Wear your brown shirt with pride then. Paste as follows:

In 1921 Adolf Hitler formed his own private army called Sturm Abteilung (Storm Section). The SA (also known as stormtroopers or brownshirts) were instructed to disrupt the meetings of political opponents and to protect Hitler from revenge attacks. Captain Ernst Roehm of the Bavarian Army played an important role in recruiting these men, and became the SA's first leader.

Comes from link. http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/GER...

This is exactly what the Union thugs are doing at these town hall meetings regarding the healthcare issue. If you don't believe that then go to this utube link and watch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqjTJkphP...

WE ARE MAD AS HELL AND WE ARE NOT GONNA TAKE IT ANYMORE!!!!

Tyger, thank you for your kind words to me. And trust me when I say this, I am the biggest GreenBay Packer Fan in Shelbyville.

Arron Rodgers will have an outstanding year, and he is my starting qb in my fantasy league.

PS. You see I understand something of history, I dont want to see nazi history repeating itself at this time in our country.

-- Posted by Brett Favre on Sun, Sep 6, 2009, at 4:20 PM

We must of forgotten,he was voted in the office of The President of the United States of America!

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And other Presidents have spoken to our children.

I for one am so sick of being dictated to as my rights as a parent.

These children our our country's future.

And it doesn't matter what color he is. When we bleed, we all bleed the color red. Have we forgotten we are all Gods children???

I feel the Board of Education doesn't mind taking the money from the goverment.And I feel like we need to remember, Obama was voted in.If you don't like him,vote him out next election.

Thats what we need to think about on the next Board of Education elections. As some of them need to remember, "They were voted in and can be voted out just the same."

-- Posted by Wheelbillie on Sun, Sep 6, 2009, at 5:53 PM

tamb- Yes, Reagan and Bush did give speeches to schools, but we really do not know what this man might say. There is a vast difference in Obama and Reagan and Bush. There is no comparison.

-- Posted by cookie on Sun, Sep 6, 2009, at 6:02 PM

I for one am so sick of being dictated to as my rights as a parent.

-- Posted by Wheelbillie on Sun, Sep 6, 2009, at 5:53 PM

You're not having your rights dictated, quite the contrary. They are leaving the decision in your hands. You can decide to let your kids watch it (it will be on youtube within minutes) or you can decide not to let them.

Forcing kids to watch the speech would be infringement on your rights as a parent.

-- Posted by quietmike on Sun, Sep 6, 2009, at 7:30 PM

Cookie,

Whats the difference? All of them held the same title."President of the United States of America and they all got the job the same way.Voted in for the job.

So whats your point???????

-- Posted by Wheelbillie on Sun, Sep 6, 2009, at 9:36 PM

For those of you who are parents of honors students and are very supportive and influential in your children's lives, I commend you. However, your children should be mature and responsible enough to understand what is being said and make their own informed decisions about how to interpret it. They aren't the students that truly "need" to hear this speech. Think about the less privileged children in this county, in the inner cities, and all over America, that do not have supportive parents at home. These are the kids that are dropping out of school and ending up on welfare as a burden to the rest of the taxpayers. Many children don't have anyone else encouraging them to stay in school and to set goals for themselves. If the President can encourage just one child to graduate high school or go to college, then his speech will have been worthwhile. The man is trying to be proactive in reaching out to our next generation as a positive influence. It is baffling to me that some people are so opposed to our President using his power and influence to help and encourage our children in need when education and unemployment is such a problem in our own community.

-- Posted by jhhj on Sun, Sep 6, 2009, at 9:57 PM

Thats right Ed Gray, that kind of thing will get you voted back into office in Shelbyville.Set aside time for dress code, but not for a democratic president to talk to students.Hope this all works out for you sir.

-- Posted by JamesRP on Sun, Sep 6, 2009, at 10:07 PM

This is just ridiculous. The President just wants to encourage children to stay in school and set educational goals. The letter the President wanted written was how students can help him. The gist of the letter was to be suggestions as to how the President can better serve the people and not how people can better serve the President. I have no problem with my children listening to the President as long as he is not articulating political ideology. If the President is only talking about goals and the importance of staying in school, I have no problem with my children listening to him regardless of which party is his affiliation.

-- Posted by volfanatic on Sun, Sep 6, 2009, at 10:43 PM

JamesRP,

Let me ask you not to hold your breath on the fact that Ed Gray being voted back into his office,or him changing the dress code.Because if you hold your breath, we will see you floating behind Bull Winkle in the next Macy's Parade.

He has no children in any Bedford County schools,he needs to retire and let someone esle have his job. One who has a child in this school system. One who knows how it is to have all these rules.

-- Posted by Wheelbillie on Mon, Sep 7, 2009, at 6:01 AM

Thank God, I wish the rest of the country would do the same. He should be ashamed of him selfe pushing his views on there little minds. Yes he altered his speech but still there in school to learn not be brain washed by his hidden agendas! My 7 and 4 yr old's dont need to worry about what we have to worry about

-- Posted by mommyofthree on Mon, Sep 7, 2009, at 9:01 AM

If you want your children to see, no problem, record it and let them watch it at home! Not in school! Problem solved!!

-- Posted by AWARENESS on Mon, Sep 7, 2009, at 10:17 AM

Really, are you kidding me? You people want to fuss and cuss because the president of the united states would like to speak to the kids of this nation? I am for the president being able to speak to our kids, this is the PRESIDENT of the United States. It is people like you that have ruined this country. No Prayer in schools, god forbid we say the pledge of allegiance in school. And we have time to tell our kids what to wear at school. I for one think we need to get rid of a dress code. But If our president wants to talk to the kids of the united states, you people get fussy. I don't get it. Our president wants to talk to the kids, This takes an hour out of the school day. I remember when I was in school, we watched the space shuttle launch. That was pointless.

-- Posted by bedfordcountyman on Mon, Sep 7, 2009, at 11:40 AM

I don't see anything wrong with the speech itself either even for younger children although I am not sure what they will really get out of it..

The problem I see is that Obama should have sent this speech to the schools so they knew exactly what they were dealing with it would have saved a lot of hoopla.

-- Posted by Dianatn on Mon, Sep 7, 2009, at 2:56 PM

Remember this is the revised version of the speech, where obama's handlers edited out the controversial stuff.

-- Posted by quietmike on Mon, Sep 7, 2009, at 4:38 PM

FYI, The superintendent of schools is Appointed by the school board...not voted into position. Yes, the same school board who dictates what your children wear to school...

-- Posted by Freedomof Speech on Mon, Sep 7, 2009, at 6:31 PM

Forcing kids to watch the speech would be infringement on your rights as a parent.

-- Posted by quietmike on Sun, Sep 6, 2009, at 7:30 PM

That is no different than forcing kids to study History from any one particular publisher. Do we see a big drama over that?

-- Posted by PoppaJim on Mon, Sep 7, 2009, at 8:28 PM

But in this instance it would be like Ed Gray gave you a choice of history books. More freedom is always a good thing.

-- Posted by quietmike on Mon, Sep 7, 2009, at 9:21 PM

Well in afew days this will be all over with. And life will go on.

I just wonder if the Presdent was Mc Cain, if Mr Gray would of made the same choice??

I personally think Mr Gray has better things to do with his time.And other issues that he seems to be ignoring.

-- Posted by Wheelbillie on Mon, Sep 7, 2009, at 9:45 PM

The fact that Mr. Gray feels he is worthy to decide weather our students should see a message from our President shows me he has way too much ego and is way too politically swayed to be allowed to represent "our" students. He is representing the republican agenda 1st and only , and his actions here shows us that those not for his political party are of no concern. The president has always been given the respect his position deserves and should this have been Bush it would never had even been questioned, but because it is a democrat and we all know the southern right wingers do tend to despises blacks It is all too clear that his decision was one to suppress the democratic party.

This man, Mr Gray needs to step down and allow a person who is able and willing to leave politics at the door and represent all of our students and even more importantly TEACH BY EXAMPLE THAT IN A NATION AS GREAT AS OURS WE KNOW HOW TO SHOW RESPECT TO OUR ELECTED PRESIDENT EVEN IF WE DID NOT VOTE FOR HIM ! ! ! !

eD GRAY NEEDS TO STEP DOWN HE HAS DISGRACED THIS COMMUNITY BY TAKING AWAY OUR CHOICE,PARENTS COULD HAVE OPTED OUT BUT HE CHOSE TO DENY THEM THE RIGHT TO CHOOSE. HE HAS DECIDED TO CENSOR OURS CHILDREN'S RIGHT TO HEAR FROM OUR PRESIDENT.... THIS IS THE LEADER OF OUR NATION ENCOURAGING OUR STUDENTS TO EXCEL IT'S NOT LIKE SHUTTING DOWN SCHOOL FOR A STUPID HORSE SHOW OF NO EDUCATIONAL VALUE OTHER THAN SHOW THEM EDUCATION IS 2ND PLACE.IF EDUCATION AND GETTING EVERY MINUTE OF IT WERE A CONCERN TO HIM AS HE SAID THEN HE WOULD IN NO WAY ALLOW SCHOOL TO SHUT DOWN FOR A WHOLE WEEK FOR A HORSE SHOW.

AS CITIZENS WE SHOULD STAND UP AND FIGHT THIS AND HIS ACTIONS, SINCE WHEN DOES HE HAVE THE AUTHORITY OR THE RIGHT TO DO SO??? hE DOES NOT REPRESENT ALL OF THE STUDENTS HE PUTS HIS POLITICS FIRST.

-- Posted by LetsGetRealFolks on Mon, Sep 7, 2009, at 10:01 PM

If this is really about the demands of the instructional schedule, I applaud what must be the next logical decision- that Bedford County Schools will no longer be closed for the Celebration and that entertainment movies (DVDs and videos) with no curricular value will no longer be tolerated.

As this is clearly not the case, I am saddened by this obvious political decision.

By not allowing students to see President Obama's speech, the school system HAS politicized the issue. The only people who are opposed to it are those rabidly opposed to President Obama. I know many people who disagree with some of the President's policies but who understand we should should support children in learning to respect our system of government. President Obama is the duly elected leader of our country. Does anyone really believe that if this exact speech were given by someone with whom the opponents agreed, they would demand it not be shown? Many people who adamantly disagreed with the policies of our last administration did not teach hatred and intolerance to their children and if they had, it would have been wrong, as well.

This is not about President Obama's speech, it is about intolerance. Intolerance for anything with which you disagree. I do not think it is a danger to my children to hear things with which I disagree. I am active in their lives and have raised them to evaluate all sides and make decisions based on facts not raging anger or to follow the masses. If you are so scared for your child to hear a view different from yours, perhaps you should think about how you are raising your children. The ability to think critically, even at an early age, is important. Otherwise, you are raising your children on dogma, irrational thought and a significant lack of charitable good will. What religion believes you should not treat others with respect whether they agree with you or not? What faith believes simply hearing an opposing view is dangerous? I do not know of any real religions that are narrow minded.

Of course, hearing that it is important to work hard, study, respect your teachers and parents and care for those around you is not a bad message. If you think that it is subversive, this would be a perfect teachable moment to talk to your child about why you disagree with the President's speech but believe we should to treat all people with respect. By discussing our different ideas with civility, we can find answers to the problems that plague our country.

-- Posted by Kimi on Tue, Sep 8, 2009, at 10:48 AM

But in this instance it would be like Ed Gray gave you a choice of history books. More freedom is always a good thing.

-- Posted by quietmike on Mon, Sep 7, 2009, at 9:21

ED GRAY took away the choice when he censored the speech out of the class room.

How did Ed Gray give us more freedom of choice by removing the choice from us??????

The only freedom to choose her respected was his freedom to choose his political agenda for all students to follow. He chose the right wing agenda against OUR PRESIDENT ( President of our nation) over the rights of all students as a whole. He took away their right to choose how is that more freedom??

-- Posted by LetsGetRealFolks on Tue, Sep 8, 2009, at 11:39 AM

ED GRAY took away the choice when he censored the speech out of the class room.

How did Ed Gray give us more freedom of choice by removing the choice from us??????

-- Posted by LetsGetRealFolks

Do you know what the word Histrionics means?

All schools have internet access. 90 +% of households have tv. The public library has internet access.

If you're that concerned, post your address so all the poor children who are just waiting for ONE person to tell them hard work is the answer, can come to your house for a screening.

-- Posted by quietmike on Tue, Sep 8, 2009, at 3:19 PM

Why doesn't Ed Gray and the School Board take their show on the road, have assemblies at each school and discuss how much they care for our students futures? What their role is in our students lives. How students should respect them no matter what restrictions they put on them? They daily remind them of how their behavior impacts those around them...have a call to arms, rather than send home papers saying they've read and agree with school policies, go to the Students face to face and explain what an important role the decisions the Board and Super. make plays in their futures??? Explain to these students how important an education is, because when every other manufacturing job is dying around them, an Education could Further them!!! Explain to all of them how to get where you are today!!!

-- Posted by Freedomof Speech on Tue, Sep 8, 2009, at 4:06 PM

quietmike

ahh yes schools have internet, but do they allow students to use it at will? Would they show them where the speech is or would they do like Ed Gray and use their position to prevent them block them from seeing it?

Would there be time during the day for the student to take off the regular lesson plans to view the speech - heck they wouldn't even allow them as a group to see it what makes you think they'll let them one by one??

Out of the so called 90% of homes with Tv how many actually have access to channels that will show the speech, how many of the parents will actually turn off their shows so the students can watch it if they do have a channel that it is on?

The you mention the library, tell me have you been there lately?? The parents of students that need the encouragement for education the most, are not likely to bother to drive them to the library. It is the children of families that do not have the support at home, that need to hear this message the most.

No I did not vote for Bush but he had my utmost respect and backing until he sold us out for his war. And as long as Obama is working for us the people, and does not stab us in the back the way Bush did I will support him too. I am a christian conservative, but can not back the hate filled republican agenda.

I do agree on one point with you Mr Gray does need to be called out on his actions face to face, and I feel that as a community we need to stand up to way he abused his position to further his political views.

Oh and it wasn't just 1 person - it as the President of our nation, who like many other Presidents before him was doing his job. The only difference is that the right wings are so full of hate now that they will do anything no matter how low to undermine any and everything he does, they don't care what it is , if it comes from Obama they will do everything in their power to destroy it. Hate is a powerful thing and they are using it to the fullest.

-- Posted by LetsGetRealFolks on Tue, Sep 8, 2009, at 8:04 PM

I just think the people of Bedford County needs to do some Spring/Fall cleaning.Get rid of some people in their possitions in certain jobs. Not only Ed Grays job, but others too.

We need some new blood in the system.Ones who take their job serious. And do what they are paid to do.Not just "Yes people" The ones who just agree and go along for the ride.

-- Posted by Wheelbillie on Thu, Sep 10, 2009, at 1:56 AM

I'm not surprise of the many people refusing to let their children listen to Obama's speech. I knew it would be this way because of all the hatred for this paticular man, as well as the democratic party and administration. I myself have no problem with a President addressing my children on the importants of education and finishing school. I know as their parents if their was anything I disagreed with, I would sit my children down and talk to them about it.

However I do feel it would have been better for the Presidents speech to have been given on paper to every student to have and read, rather than children taking the time in school to listen to the president. He still should have his speech aired on TV where all can see, but I do not feel it was neccessary to have children listen to it during school hours. As far as Ed-Gray making a decision as to wether "He" would allow the children to take part in what the President wanted, I feel was unfair to the parents (Again) making choices of (Opting THEIR child) out of it.

Some parents feel their children don't need the President encouraging their kids about getting their education and finishing school, or doing things to improve their future and the future of our country. That may be true for some, not for all children. Their are some children in our country whose parents are not encouraging their children, and some of these kids are just waiting to hit their 17 birthday so they can quit going to school. These kids are having a hard time finding jobs, and end up doing crime to try and survive by any means neccessary. They are having children, and are not encouraging their children to strive for a better future either. And yes as tax-payers we end up paying for their way of living.

This speech isn't just about your child or mines, it is about "ALL" the children especially the ones that do not see a point in getting an education, that do not want to try and learn, that can't wait to quit school, and "Even some Adults" now days that need to go back and get a GED, or career training. This country will not get any better if people refuse to TRY and improve it; If you try something and it don't work out, then try it another way. It is pointless to keep doing the same thing if it doesn't work or has been failing. A mind is a terrible thing to waist.

-- Posted by Momof3&3step&1gran on Thu, Sep 10, 2009, at 2:37 PM

Okay if it were the untalented bush would you feel it okay to interrupt the classroom? Here in bedford county it is still very much about race than it is politics or education.I grew up here in this not so equal town and always was aware of the dividedness of shelbyville.I have decided to keep my children home so they MAY watch it. My children who are 9 and 5 followed the campaign and watched the vote as it unfolded.I want my children to grow beyond the narrow way of thinking of this county.He is our president reguardless of who likes it and who dont.If you dont like it..... YOU SHOULD HAVE VOTED....you have four years....put your big kids underwear and deal with it.

-- Posted by armywife2916 on Thu, Sep 10, 2009, at 6:21 PM

the racists of shelbyville has come out to play on this topic!!!!!!!!!!!

-- Posted by armywife2916 on Thu, Sep 10, 2009, at 6:29 PM

Okay, if the president was an Caucasian, would this even be a discussion??????? Oh wait... no because schools never had an issue with allowing students to watch the President of the United States Speech during school hours until he happened to be an African American. Is it 2009 or 1909?

-- Posted by holldeb on Fri, Sep 11, 2009, at 1:22 PM


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