In a statement issued late Friday to principals, administrators and the Times-Gazette, Bedford County School Superintendent Ed Gray cited the demands of the instructional schedule and the danger of politicizing the classroom.
Gray said teachers may record and review the speech and, if they feel it ties in with the curriculum, they may request to play it for students at a later date. He said some high school social studies classes may be allowed to watch the speech live.
Since the White House announced plans last week for Obama to speak directly to students about the need to work hard and stay in school, it has turned into a political tempest. His address will be shown live on the White House Web site and on a government-focused cable channel at 11 a.m. CDT.
Quick decision
Bedford County Schools began the school year last month but were out of session last week for the Tennessee Walking Horse National Celebration when details about the speech were made public.
Barry Cooper, who chairs Bedford County Board of Education, said Friday afternoon, "We are aware that this has stimulated a lot of discussion and has become somewhat controversial."
Cooper said Gray had been asked to decide how the schools should use the speech.
Later Friday, Gray, who had been out of town during the break, issued a statement to principals, students and the Times-Gazette stating that the federal No Child Left Behind act makes heavy instructional demands on local teachers.
"We stress bell-to-bell instruction, and we don't want to waste a single minute of instructional time," stated Gray.
"While it has been pointed out to me that some school systems watched the inauguration of President Obama," wrote Gray, "Bedford County schools were not in session that day. The inauguration is a historic event as opposed to this speech which could be viewed as political. We strive in our classrooms to be very neutral as far as politics is concerned."
Locals unaware
Before the release of Gray's statement, Central High School principal Don Embry told the Times-Gazette he wasn't aware of the speech until that day, as a result of the controversy.
Embry said he didn't know of any plans for his students to view the speech. He said it would be up to individual teachers to decide whether or how to incorporate the speech, but that he would support the rights of any parent who requested that their child not view the speech.
School Board member Amy Martin said she had received a call from a concerned parent who wanted to know if schools were planning to show the speech. This parent said she did not feel comfortable with her child watching it.
Martin related some parents are concerned because they don't know what specific information will actually be presented in the speech. Even though it's supposed to be about education, "you never know what's going to be said," Martin said, expressing concerns of parents.
Martin said Thursday was the first time she'd heard of the speech while attending a Tennessee School Board Association in Murfreesboro where the topic was discussed.
"(The speech) has spurred conversation," she said.
Linda Yockey, a county commission member who now teaches at SCHS and who once served as an advisor for the Young Democrat club at Cascade High School, said she was unfamiliar with the speech or the controversy until asked about it by a reporter.
Robert Ralston, principal at Community High School, also spoke to the Times-Gazette before the release of Gray's statement.
Ralston said a number of people have asked him if they were going to do anything at Community.
"I told them, 'I don't have enough knowledge (about the speech) or how it is going to be delivered to give you an answer.'"
Donna Phillips, a local mother who campaigned for Obama during the presidential election, said she had not heard from either her local Obama campaign associates or school officials as to what plans were for county schools regarding Tuesday's speech.
Sides square off
"I think we've reached a little bit of the silly season when the president of the United States can't tell kids in school to study hard and stay in school," presidential spokesman Robert Gibbs told reporters. "I think both political parties agree that the dropout rate is something that threatens our long-term economic success."
Obama's planned address to students has prompted a surprising push-back from some quarters over what the White House sees as an important but innocuous topic.
Some conservative critics say Obama is trying to promote a political agenda and overstepping his bounds, taking the federal government too far into public school business.
Republican Gov. Tim Pawlenty of Minnesota, a potential presidential contender in 2012, said Obama's speech is "uninvited" and that the president's move raises questions of content and motive.
Critics are particularly upset about lesson plans the administration created to accompany the speech. The lesson plans, available online, originally recommended having students "write letters to themselves about what they can do to help the president."
The White House revised the plans Wednesday to say students could "write letters to themselves about how they can achieve their short-term and long-term education goals."
"That was inartfully worded, and we corrected it," said White House deputy policy director Heather Higginbottom.
Choices made
In the Dallas suburb of Plano, Texas, the 54,000-student school district is not showing the 15- to 20-minute address but will make the video available later. Local Parent-Teacher Association council president Cara Mendelsohn said Obama is "cutting out the parent" by speaking to kids during school hours.
"Why can't a parent be watching this with their kid in the evening?" Mendelsohn said. "Because that's what makes a powerful statement, when a parent is sitting there saying, 'This is what I dream for you. This is what I want you to achieve.'"
Many school districts have decided not to show Obama's speech partly in response to concerns from parents.
Randi Weingarten, president of the American Federation of Teachers, on Friday defended Obama's plan to address students.
"The bottom line is we need the president of the United States of America to use his bully pulpit to talk to kids about the importance of education and to help inspire kids," she said on "The John Gambling Show" on radio station WOR in New York.
Gibbs said former Republican presidents Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush delivered similar speeches to students. He said Obama's speech will not be partisan but rather a chance for children to get "a little encouragement as they start the school year."
The White House plans to release the speech online Monday so parents can read it. Obama will deliver the speech at Wakefield High School in Arlington, Va.
-- The Associated Press contributed to this report.
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That is a answer to a prayer, no religion, no politics.
I find it interesting that the parents who speak out are few yet loud. If the president is unwanted in the schools then let me say to those parents so concerned about their child "Help another child who doesn't have the parental support yours does. Many children in todays school system find that the only place they can get worthy attention is at school." The number of parents involved with their children for the sake of education are far less than the number of those relying on the teachers and schools alone to develop the child. Over the years I've witnessed many parents verbally abusing teachers and principals telling them it is their job to educate the child and they had better improve or they would face the wrath of the parent as the parent escalated it to the school board. If the president can help motivate these kids for all the right reasons then let it happen. The only politics involved is that of the folks opposed to the Democratic President and pushed by the Republicans which creates this fear. Back in the day it was wise for plantation owners to not allow slaves to get an education for fear they just might see how wrong the owners were and revolt. Seems to me this is closely related to the people who dont want anyone to motivate children to getting an education. Let the children see it and decide for themselves with proper input not blatant censorship.
so now our president isnt even fit for our schools? id just bet if a white president said he was gonna address our schools there wouldnt even have been any questions. use any excuse u want, but.....
Each Sunday morning I routinely go on-line to read about the happenings of my hometown. This story blew me away. This is an unfortunate display of the lack of leadership from one of our most respected school systems in the state. The decision is not a reflection of the policies of our President; but let's call it for what it is - the hatred and racism of a few with loud voices. Bedford County needs to grow a pair and protect the interests of our children and future leaders. Previous Presidents have given national addresses to our youth in the sole effort of motivating the children and emphasizing the importance of education as they go forward in life. So what is the difference with this President that was overwhelming elected by the citizens of this great country????
You know I hate when uneducated people try to turn a political discussion into a racial debate!
"In a statement issued late Friday to principals, administrators and the Times-Gazette, Bedford County School Superintendent Ed Gray cited the demands of the instructional schedule" because being out of school 7 days while horses romp around the ring certainly isn't infringing on instructional schedules... the 20 minute speech would take less time than the inspections children must go through in order to ensure they are properly dressed...
After nearly half a century of de-segregation, this country has somehow found a way to bring segregation back to life....
I have decided that I wouldn't care whether they hear the speech or not but the President has other-more important things to worry about. He needs to be talking to adults-not kids.
It wouldn't make any difference what Mr. Gray decided. There are always parents who are dissatisfied with something in the public schools. If you don't like what the public schools are doing, then homeschool or send your kids to private schools.
It won't be long before American History is removed from the curriculum because some parent objects to it.
FIRST I AM ASHAMED TO SAY I LIVE IN A COUNTY WHO WOULDNT LET OUR CHILDREN WATCH THE PRES. OF THE UNITED STATES. AT LEAST OUR PRES CARES TO GET THROUGH TO OUR KIDS UNLIKE SOME PARENTS OUT THERE. OUR CHILDREN ARE I SEE ARE OUT THERE NOT CARING AND DOING WHAT THE HECK THEY WANT TO DO. I THINK SOMETHING SHOULD BE DONE BEFORE IT GETS ANY WORSE. I KNOW WHEN WE ALL VOTED PRES. OBABMA AND FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DIDNT THAN AT LEAST GIVE THE MAN A CHANCE. HE IS TRYING TO FIX WHAT OTHER PRES. LACKED TO DO. I AM PROUD TO SAY I HAVE A BLACK PRES I AM WHITE AND I AM GOING TO GIVE HIM ALL PRAYERS HE NEEDS AHEAD. BECAUSE MOST OF YOU PARENTS WHO WILL NOT GIVE OUR KIDS THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUGHT TO WATCH HIM YOUR WRONG AND I AM APOLLED.
If you want to watch the address later, go to www.whitehouse.gov
Of course they could have decided to air it and allow any student who didn't want to watch to opt out. I'll bet that they all watch it on the internet later since it has been banned at the school.
Define "black".
If you mean of African decent, then he only meets that definition by half.
If you mean of a minority that has struggled throughout their generations to make it to where they are now, then he doesn't even come close.
If you think for one second that Obama can relate to the black community and their trials and tribulations, then you are sadly mistaken.
He has not walked the same path as the black community of this nation.
This isn't about race.
"We stress bell-to-bell instruction, and we don't want to waste a single minute of instructional time," stated Gray.
so i guess this means our kids wont be killing time watching movies any more?
I moved from Broward County in Fl (Fort Lauderdale area) here to TN over a year ago and is never seems to amaze me how backwards this county really is. Everyone is living in the 70's here. It seems like everyone here is so upset that McCain didn't win, everyone at every chance they get go against the President that was voted in. Your former President has spent over 680,000,000,000.00 on the war in Iraq, where were all the protest when that was going on? 9/11 was from someone in Afghanistan not Iraq. Bush only did that because his Daddy was threatened. He totaly forgot about Osama bin Laden. Now the School system will not let the kids listen to a 20 min speech from our President? Give me a break!! This President is trying to right wrongs done for the past 8 years and is reaching out to every American, young and old. Maybe if school wasn't closed for less than a 1/4 of an inch of snow they can find the time to let the kids listen to the President if they wanted to.
Once again this just shows that you are never going to be able to make everyone happy. There are pros & cons to almost everything in the world. I wish everyone would think before they post and ask themselves is this really something to get upset or aggravated over. It always seems to come down to a race issue. I know that some people have it harder than others. i.e. african americans - obese - handicap - and many others. If we won't allow GOD & prayer to be in schools - then why should we allow the president to address the children? We can all raise our children to know right from wrong, but in the end our children will make their own decisions - I know I did. The parents that feel very strongly that they do want their children to see the speech can let them watch it on the internet.
Asking children to consider their goals, their community, participation in planning for their future, their individuality...don't shoot the messenger. These are all questions and conversations we have (hopefully) with our children, everyday, even begin with a command of attention from an authoritive figure..(coaches, teachers, principals, officers, the school board)
Asking our children to plan for the future, our interpretation or theirs, is not socialism, it's a social conscious.
From what I have read most schools are opting out of the speech completely not just Bedford County and most of the ones who will be showing the speech are allowing parents to opt their children out of watching.
I say this with the except of Broward County in Fl This is the statement from the superintendent:
In Florida, heavily Democratic Broward County will not allow students to skip the speech, despite several parental protests. Letting students opt out "does not align with our practices and responsibility to provide a well rounded, quality education," superintendent James Notter wrote in a memo.
It seems this man thinks he can control the parents by controlling what their children watch.
I have no problem with any school showing the speech but to say children can not opt out of watching is the MOST ridiculous thing I have ever heard. The President speaking to Middle School and High School students is one thing but exactly what will younger children as in K-5 really get out of his speech.
Coony, you must not have brown skin, otherwise you would realize all the truth in the statements you made, goes out the window when you are seen and not only heard!!
The people claiming this is racist are the biggest racists around and are normally the first ones to claim things are racist. You are ignorant and racist. Why would Obama want to address our children anyway when he is obviously not pro-life, some of these children are "punishment" to the parents according to him. He is the president that has spent more in less than a year than all the other presidents combined, is this something we want our children to learn? The policies that Obama has put into effect since taking office have done nothing to help our country. In a recession he has funded overseas abortions, passed the stimulus bill that has not done anything to help the economy but had several earmarks to help the areas that voted for him. He has taken over GM and Chrysler and made it hard for the banks to pay back the TARP funds that were supposed to come back to the citizens but seems the money is going into the general fund. He is pushing the cap and trade bill through even though all it's going to do is make the citizens of the US pay more for everything along with their electric bills. Obama is also pushing this massive health care bill through against the will of the majority populous. What has he really done at all to help the people of this community? And he wants to tell our kids the importance of an education? The only education our children need is when they get 18 they need to go out and vote in droves to change America for the better. Obama is the worst president in history in my book and the history books will most likely share the same opinion. The only thing history books can say positive about him is that he is the first bi-racial (half white, half black) president. The saddest thing of all is that some people still want to support Obama when he is destroying this once great country and they only back him because he's "black". The people backing him are either far left, ignorant of issues, or just plain stupid. To make things worse on a local level, Pat Marsh voted for him while he claims to be a republican where a lot of local democrats didn't even vote for Obama. Food for thought, and by the way I'm a democrat that didn't vote for him either.
My race is not the issue just as Obama's isn't.
I just call it like I see it.
I don't claim to understand the difficulties endured by the black community of this great nation.
I don't claim to understand all of the issues at hand.
I will however tell you that I based my election choice on character and integrity. Two things Obama fell short on.
According to Obama supporters, if you protested the Bush administration, you were just being a concerned cictizen. However if you oppose the Obama administration, you're a racist. Your constant assertion that those who do not agree with this narcissistic idiot are racist has gone way past worn out and bordering on self induced stupidity.
tomjones
I was going to comment here, but after reading your post I dont feel the need to.
I completely agree with everything you said, thank you.
The only education our children need is when they get 18 they need to go out and vote in droves to change America for the better.
What sort of dribble is this statement?
The saddest thing of all is that some people still want to support Obama when he is destroying this once great country and they only back him because he's "black". The people backing him are either far left, ignorant of issues, or just plain stupid.
Sorry my friend i didn't support him based on color. I am not far left, ignorant of issues, nor am I just plain stupid. I support him because I believe it is time we all tok action and held not only politicians but ourselves accountable. Not to mention I've grown tired of listening to misguided infor spread by those who are trying to regain the political power.
To make things worse on a local level, Pat Marsh voted for him while he claims to be a republican where a lot of local democrats didn't even vote for Obama.
And this makes things worse because he excercized his right to vote for who he decided to believe in? I think you need to reconsider what education level you think the kids of today need when they turn 18.
Food for thought, and by the way I'm a democrat that didn't vote for him either.
Good for you ..... I won't ask who you did vote for out of respect for your right of privacy.
Tom Jones are you and Tattoo interacting in the same social circle by chance?
Poppa, you said "I believe it is time we all tok action and held not only politicians but ourselves accountable. Not to mention I've grown tired of listening to misguided infor spread by those who are trying to regain the political power."
I think this alone backs up my statement completely. You fall into one of the categories I listed, you just might not realize it. I did ask a question in my post if you would like to answer it intelligently since you disagree with me. "What has he really done at all to help the people of this community?" You didn't give any intelligent response except that you disagree. Tell everyone how he has made this country better since you obviously think he has. Which policy of his do you agree with and why? Why have his approval ratings gone straight south even with the bias media in his pocket? Once again, my point proved and you don't even have one, just empty rhetoric. Are you related to Van Jones?
Hey this would be a novel idea. Let the President sell this speech to everyone and then show it in the evening hours and let the parents decide whether or not their children would see it. Just a thought.
It looks like people got off message, going from a school talk to politics in general, and Obama, in particular? So, let's continue: I would like tomjones to answer a question. Who was the last president that has done anything to "help the people of this community?" AS for Obama being "the worst president in history" in your book, apparently your book is not a history book.
Teachers are wisely hesitant to show anything to their students that they themselves have not viewed first. For that reason alone, anything piped live into classrooms is a bad idea. Furthermore, to do it on, what for many schools, is the first day of class makes it an additionally poor choice.
Also, PoppaJim, when you are inferring that your opinion is educated, going on to "quote yourself and what you have to say" casts doubt on what you have to say. Additionally, your plantation comment...what is up with that? As of Wednesday, the White House sponsored curriculum wanted the students to write a letter regarding how they could help the president. When that idea blew up, they came back with a typical "what we meant to say was" defense. When this administration doesn't even check with Google to learn that their Green Jobs Czar claimed to be a communist in 2005 and could be seen on YouTube stating that only "white kids" shoot up whole schools (referring to Columbine), it is an administration that appears to many people to be naive. I think Bedford County is being prudent, not racist.
Tyger
are you looking for a hand out? Help? You need help somehow?
Please ask me for help, I would likely give it to you, HOWEVER WE DONT NEED NO FREAKING FEDERAL GOVERNMENT GIVING IT TOO US WITH CONDITIONS.
We should be self reliant as Americans not some group of followers that are waiting on a freaking handout.
No disrespect intended towards you Tyger.
It's not a history book yet, as of now it's a current events book. And to answer your question Tyger, Reagan did a great job in taking control of the economy from out of control democrats. I think Clinton did a good job with the economy also. Can't say much for his personal life as far as being a role model for anyone but the economy was fine. W. Bush kept us safe from any further terrorists attacks on domestic soil. I think all those things effect us locally. Everything Obama is doing is effecting us on a local level also in a negative way. The stimulus package was to keep the unemployment rate from hitting 8% and the last time I looked it hit 9.7% nationwide. 13% in Bedford County, so Obamanomics has infected even our small county in a large way. As far as getting off message I think all the posts are pretty much on message with what the point is. The point is Obama and very influential school children, Obama is a politician and has nothing to do with educating our children. As a parent they should not mix and Obama has too many things to deal with without trying to influence my child in any way.
It's a sad and shameful day when the President of the United States is seen as unfit to give a speech to our children.
As "good grief" stated, the best option might have been to send out DVDs of the speech for teachers/school administrations/school boards to review. If they determined that the message was indeed non-partisan, appropriate, and uplifting then they could go ahead and show it. Without that prior review no one can say for sure if the speech is truly helpful, or as I heard one source stated that it Could be an attempt to inspire a "cult of Obama."
It is not certain that Obama is the President legally he has yet to produce a birth certificate.The Supreme Court has agreed to hear this case,even though Obama has spent over 2 million dollars fighting it.hmmm what is he trying to hide???
This is a wonderful Country!
We have many rights.
A right to Vote for the canidate of our choice.
A right to be upset when our canidate is not the choice of the majority.
A right to our reglious beliefs.
A right to our own opinions.
The right to freedom of speech.
With that I will exercise two of those rights and say:
I believe that tomjones is a know it all Jackass!
Now for the school system deciding if my children can hear a speech from THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA: I believe that it should be played with the parents having a opt out option. Everyone deserves the right to hear this speech and everyone deserves the right not to hear it. In these hard economic times not everyone has internet or even TV. Hard to believe but true.
At this point I would like to know who gave Mr. Gray the right to sensor OUR President.
Tinytoes has taken us way off topic but it's a good point.
Is he native to this land?
Hmmm...
To those of you who are bashing Mr.Obama, let me remind you.He has not had time to make everyone "Happy".He came in with such a mess left behind from both of the Bush's.
As we all know, God didn't make the world in a day.And this country was in a world of hurt before our new President took the office.
He needs to talk to our children.As they are the next generation.Or has this slip your minds.
Children needs to stay in school and work for a living.Not have babies and make walfare a way of life.Or send time in jail.With those repeated offenders.
Do you really think McCain could of done better in the same amount of time?As he was just another Bush President waiting to happen.
Obama is here for the get go.And if you don't like it,next election vote him out.But don't sit back and take the money then complain about:He's not doing enough.And by the way, If you didn't vote at all you should not even be complaining....
Some of these comments really looks like they are proud to be Americans. Why don't you sit back and look at all our Soldiers who are Fighting for us to have our freedoms.Then sit and type what you really think.Be thankful for your freedoms,including the freedom of Speach/freedom of the press........
The Supreme Court has zero plans to hear any arguments about Barack Obama's birth certificate. He is our president, he won fair and square, and he will be for at least the next three and a half years. If you don't respect the man, at the very least respect the office. I am ashamed that my daughter attends a school that is afraid of a collection ignorant loud mouths and missinformed rednecks. This is not the America that I grew up in.
It's crazy to me that people are up in arms about this. When there is so much going on around us. I wish we did not have a black president. I wish he was green, so the misinformed people would find something else to talk about. Being a black man living in Shelbyville is hard enough without parents, and educators telling their kids that the president is evil. The president has never been that big of a deal in day to day life to me until now. "All propaganda has to be popular and has to accommodate itself to the comprehension of the least intelligent of those whom it seeks to reach." Adolf Hitler. To think, one of the proudest events in my life would be the dawn of intolerance and racism.
First I would like to address the ignorant citizens blogging about the citizenship of the president. If he was not scared about his own citizenship then why would he not provide his certificate of live birth to prove he is eligible to be in the office he is in. He took an oath to uphold the Constitution and Article 2 Section 1 of the Constitution clearly states the prerequisites to run for the office of President, he has proven nothing to date. I have a thought for just4thought. Everyone does have the right to hear Obama's rhetoric if they choose to, but children are the responsibility of their parents not the president. You also fall into one of the categories listed in my first post of Obama backers. What does having internet or tv have to do with anything? You obviously have internet to blog and those who don't can go to the library.
WE THE CITIZENS OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA ARE IN CHARGE, NOT THE OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT. SO DON'T ACT LIKE HE IS SOME KIND OF MESSIAH JUST BECAUSE YOU VOTED FOR HIM.
Thank you for your compliment also just4thought, the fact that you can't make an intelligent retort just solidifies the facts that Obama is destroying our nation and uninformed people like you voted for him not knowing who you were even voting for.
Hey Wheelbillie, Obama's approval ratings have dropped faster than a rock. He inherited problems from both Bush's? You do remember that Clinton was 8 years in-between them right? All of Obama's problems right now are his own, the problems that W. left him could have been on the road to recovery by now if addressed properly. He can't blame any of this on Bush now (unless of course your just plain stupid and believe Obama).
Lastly (for now), nathan.evans, the Supreme Court does have plans to follow up with the birth certificate issue. The Supreme Court of California. It also sounds like you are the uninformed one since you didn't give any response to the facts. The only thing you can do is call people "ignorant loud mouths and missinformed rednecks". If we are so dumb why are you the one misspelling words? No one who has spoken out for Obama has given any substance on his behalf, the only thing they can do is complain and name call which does nothing but show their stupidity.
For those of you who are parents of honors students and are very supportive and influential in your children's lives, I commend you. However, your children should be mature and responsible enough to understand what is being said and make their own informed decisions about how to interpret it. They aren't the students that truly "need" to hear this speech. Think about the less privileged children in this county, in the inner cities, and all over America, that do not have supportive parents at home. These are the kids that are dropping out of school and ending up on welfare as a burden to the rest of the taxpayers. Many children don't have anyone else encouraging them to stay in school and to set goals for themselves. If the President can encourage just one child to graduate high school or go to college, then his speech will have been worthwhile. The man is trying to be proactive in reaching out to our next generation as a positive influence. It is baffling to me that some people are so opposed to our President using his power and influence to help and encourage our children in need when education and unemployment is such a problem in our own community.
sayitain'tso, I thought you were smarter than that.
Tattoos and Scars, you are way off the mark. Anyone who criticized the Bush Administration was labeled unpatriotic. Remember Natalie Mains of the Dixie Chicks being lambasted by the far right for her comments about George Bush. Also, do you remember what happened to Max Cleland of Georgia? In case you have forgotten or didn't know, Max Cleland was a Senator from Georgia and a decorated Vietnam veteran. In his race for re-election, his opponent, Saxby Chambliss, questioned his patriotism for opposing G. W. Bush.
It's obvious you only see one side of the equation.
Lastly (for now), nathan.evans, the Supreme Court does have plans to follow up with the birth certificate issue. The Supreme Court of California.
-- Posted by tomjones on Sun, Sep 6, 2009, at 9:29 PM
I wouldn't hold my breath Tom.
The government's involvement in our children's education has hindered their learning to an extent. Private schools have a higher rate of graduates and less pregnancies with the added benefit of more graduates going to college also. If the government were truly invested in our kids futures and not in indoctrination of our youth wouldn't they run the school system like a private school? As far as knowing what Obama's going to say, as someone stated above it's not a good idea to have a live feed into a classroom from anyone. He could say anything, he's the only one who knows what he's going to say. I don't believe he is qualified to educate my child. He wasn't elected to "teach" my child anything, he needs to learn how to fix the economy without breaking us any further and recall the damage he has already done. All of those inner city kids in other places should be given the chance to see the speech at their home with their parents consent. If he was so proactive at reaching out to the next generation, why would he put their heirs in debt before they are even born? Please, someone tell Obama to stop caring so much! We can't afford any more caring from him, our children's futures depend on him not caring so much.
tomjones - Did you go to school at all? I'm not usually one to go after any individual poster, but your comparison of private and public schools is ridiculous. The fact that more private school students finish high school and go to college has very little to do with how the school is run. Do you realize that going to private school requires parents to pay thousands of dollars out of their pockets? The kids living in low income areas with single mothers and very little supervision don't get to go to private schools because they can't afford it. Unfortunately, those kids are the ones most likely to drop out of high school, get pregnant, or end up in jail. The kids in private schools have parents that are at least supportive enough to spend the large amount of money on their child's education, and they can also afford to send their child to college. Most of the problems with our public education system can be found in the homes and in the streets, rarely in the schools themselves.
There are many students who don't have easy access to the internet or parents that are around and care enough to allow them to watch the speech at home. That was a point of my last post, which you didn't seem to comprehend.
If we don't reach out to the next generation, who do you expect to be leading this country 20-30 years from now?
so now our president isnt even fit for our schools? id just bet if a white president said he was gonna address our schools there wouldnt even have been any questions. use any excuse u want, but.....
-- Posted by didlivethere on Sun, Sep 6, 2009, at 7:57 AM
This is not about what race the President is!! I have not seen a lot of good come out of this presidency as of yet, so why would I want my child addressed by someone who clearly is not quite sure of himself? If he wants to address our children then let him do so while they are at home, with parents who are willing to discuss with them what the President stated in the address, instead of doing it at school where the teacher might feel out of place answering questions? I could care less what race he is. I just feel that he hasn't proven himself yet to me.
Each Sunday morning I routinely go on-line to read about the happenings of my hometown. This story blew me away. This is an unfortunate display of the lack of leadership from one of our most respected school systems in the state. The decision is not a reflection of the policies of our President; but let's call it for what it is - the hatred and racism of a few with loud voices. Bedford County needs to grow a pair and protect the interests of our children and future leaders. Previous Presidents have given national addresses to our youth in the sole effort of motivating the children and emphasizing the importance of education as they go forward in life. So what is the difference with this President that was overwhelming elected by the citizens of this great country????
-- Posted by tennis59 on Sun, Sep 6, 2009, at 8:30 AM
Apparently, a lot of these citizens are troubled by their decision to elect this man. His approval rating has already dropped below 50% and I don't believe it was based on the color of his skin. Why has everything got to revert back to racism? This man has made some very bad decisions and I understand it was with the help of alot of other politicians but in the end, in most cases, he has the final decision. So for me it is not racial. It is based upon his abilities.
The Supreme Court has zero plans to hear any arguments about Barack Obama's birth certificate. He is our president, he won fair and square, and he will be for at least the next three and a half years. If you don't respect the man, at the very least respect the office. I am ashamed that my daughter attends a school that is afraid of a collection ignorant loud mouths and missinformed rednecks. This is not the America that I grew up in.
-- Posted by nathan.evans on Sun, Sep 6, 2009, at 7:33 PM
I am afraid, kind sir, that you are way out of line. I see quite a few posts on here that are very informed and do not sound like they are coming from ignorant loud mouths and missinformed rednecks. Be they for or against our Commander in Chief, I have respect for everyones opinion, as it appears you do not. Do not judge. That is not your job.
The fact that more private school students finish high school and go to college has very little to do with how the school is run. Do you realize that going to private school requires parents to pay thousands of dollars out of their pockets? The kids living in low income areas with single mothers and very little supervision don't get to go to private schools because they can't afford it. Unfortunately, those kids are the ones most likely to drop out of high school, get pregnant, or end up in jail. The kids in private schools have parents that are at least supportive enough to spend the large amount of money on their child's education, and they can also afford to send their child to college. Most of the problems with our public education system can be found in the homes and in the streets, rarely in the schools themselves.
-- Posted by jhhj
Absolutely not true.
For example, Washington D.C. schools spend an average of $15,000 per year for each student, far more than any other school district, and more than most private schools, yet it comes in DEAD LAST in the Nation's Report Card.
http://www.goldwaterinstitute.org/articl...
That is the major problem I see with liberal ideology. Instead of taking the time to address the actual cause of a problem, the liberal answer is to always just throw more money at it. Nevermind if the operating model is faulty from the start.
It might also have something to do with the fact that the teacher's union is one of the largest contributors to the democrat party and most private schools are non-union.
Democrats try to sell themselves as the party of "choice", yet the only choice they want to offer is the chance to kill your child. According to them, having any choice about how to educate your child shouldn't be left to us simplistic commoners, it should only be a job for the enlightened leaders who know better than us what we need.
quietmike - I think you misunderstood what I was saying.
I was not talking about the amount of money that each school has or is given. I was referring to the fact parents have to pay a lot of money for a private school education, and this skews the demographics of private vs. public schools. I guarantee you the average family income at Webb is much much higher than the average at SCHS or Cascade. A higher percentage of students will graduate from Webb and go on to college because they have parents who can afford it. This, however, does not necessarily mean that the quality of education given to each child is any higher.
I agree with you that throwing money at the problem doesn't solve it. Obama is attempting to help at the source of the problem by giving encouragement to students who may not get that kind of attention at home. For the first time in history, the inner-city black kids have a President they can look up to that actually looks like them, and hopefully that means they will listen to him. Whether you agree with his policies or not, I hope you can agree that the President of the United States is a better role model than Soulja Boy, Lil Wayne, Pacman Jones, or anyone else they're used to seeing on TV.
Tom Jones,
You are entitled to your opinion.But maybe you need to go back to Charter and see if you can get a job singing.
Because Obama is going to be in office for another 3 1/2 years.And most likily voted back in.Look at Brendison.How everyone was so mad about their tenn care. Look what they did, voted him back in again.
You need to stop singing the same ole song about Obama. He's in and theres nothing you can do about it.Accept it, and move on.
I am afraid, kind sir, that you are way out of line. I see quite a few posts on here that are very informed and do not sound like they are coming from ignorant loud mouths and missinformed rednecks. Be they for or against our Commander in Chief, I have respect for everyones opinion, as it appears you do not. Do not judge. That is not your job.
-- Posted by bcpwoman on Mon, Sep 7, 2009, at 12:37 AM
You just need to be aware that you are a member of a small minority of radical sickos and the rest of us will never let your cancerous fear and hate spread unchecked. Small victories like this give you comfort and empower those that share your viewpoints. Next time you will try and perhaps not have the same outcome. But that won't stop you. Eventually we end with thousands of you marching in our cities carrying rifles and wearing matching arm bands. This is how it starts.
President Obama has made his own mess. The mess left before has nothing to do with what he is doing. I say let the kids listen to it and then point out the messes he has made. Why else would he have dropped in the polls faster than only a few former presidents?
Eventually we end with thousands of you marching in our cities carrying rifles and wearing matching arm bands. This is how it starts.
-- Posted by nathan.evans on Mon, Sep 7, 2009, at 7:18 AM
Nice try Nathan, but yet again your post is factually incorrect. Let's look at some of the murderous, oppressive, discriminatory governments who marched the streets with rifles wearing armbands, killing those who didn't submit in the past 100 years:
Adolph Hitler
Pol Pot
Vladimir Lenin
Joseph Stalin
Benito Mussolini
Mao Zedong
Guess what? They were all socialists, communists, or marxists- all forms of government that fall on the LEFT side of the political spectrum..More in line with YOUR political viewpoint.
Got it?
Good.
The American Civil War was started by individuals that more closely resembles the right today. They turned out to be on the wrong side of history and so shall you.
Sorry, wrong again. The Republican party was created by opposition to the Kansas-Nebraska act of 1854.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kansas-Nebr...
Abraham Lincoln was the first elected REPUBLICAN president.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham_Lin...
The democrat party has always been the party of racism and oppression.
Dear jhhj, your disrespect of, as you say, "inner-city black kids" smacks of condescension. While I think you have a good heart, I doubt that you would support vouchers, which would allow more children to attend private schools. All families of low socioeconomic status are not black, nor are all black families are run by, as you infer, single mothers who don't care. In our county, there has been exponential growth in the immigrant (legal and illegal) population, the vast majority of which are intact families who care so much about their children that they left their homelands to provide safety and opportunity.
The bigger picture, to me, is that the President is plunging in the polls and has used up a lot of his favor with the networks during prime time. Talking to children allows him continue what he does best...speak in front of a large audience. I believe there have been many public service announcements over the years from Presidents and First Ladies about staying in school, not to mention the constant encouragement from teachers with much the same message. It seems that the administration, in its' naiveté, thinks that there really is a "reset" button for all problems. Currently, there is a massive momentum among swing voters (who supported the President) trending away from him, and that momentum taints everything coming out of the White House, no matter how innocent it may appear.
jhhj, ever heard of a voucher program, a scholarship, a school grant? All of these things applied to private schools for people who couldn't afford them. This just further proves my point of you fitting into one of my first categories of Obama followers.
Wheelbillie, you just need to learn how to use spell check or something before trying to sound intelligent again, which didn't work by the way.
Nathan.evans, I really don't even need to comment your idiotic choice of words since mike took care of your make believe argument.
Over all, read all the posts on this blog and see who has statistics, facts, and proof. We are the intelligent informed citizens against what Obama is doing to this country. The people trying to justify what Obama is doing, don't have anything except their opinions.
Obama was working with President Bush before Bush even moved out of the White House which has never been done before history. Obama has raised taxes on people making less than 250k a year. The right to life issue is apparently not above his pay grade according to his actions. He sure didn't mind putting earmarks in bills so they could pass even his liberal congress, even though he said there would be no more earmarks. He told us that cap and trade WOULD necessarily make our utility bills skyrocket earlier last year, but when he was trying to get the bill passed he said that it wouldn't make that much of a difference in what we paid on our current bills.
The point is, PEOPLE STOP LISTENING TO HIM, HE DOESN'T TELL THE TRUTH. WATCH WHAT HE DOES, NOT WHAT HE SAYS. The people backing him still will not be able to figure out what he's doing at all because all they do is listen to him. "Ignorance is bliss", I guess Obama backers are the most blissful people on Earth right now.
btw, nathan, give it up Mike's got your number.
goodgrief, please don't think our current administration is anything close to naive, that would be naive. Obama is losing more than the swing vote, he's losing hard core democrats because we still believe in democracy where what he's pushing is anything but.
Well, the speech is suppose to be released to the public today; has anyboby seen it yet?
Poeple seem to forget when they say President this or President that, that there is a Congress involved. And there always seem to be more flack involved if it is an Opposition body. For example, the Dems talk about Reagan running up the greatest deficit in US history, up to that time, but they went along with it. And it works the other way, oo.
Brett, no I don't need a hand out; even though the horses are keeping me in the "poor house", I'm doing just fine.
Hey Tyger, you might want to invest in a computer that has spell check since you seem to be mocking the term poor house. Obama's speech has nothing to do with Congress, this is all Obama. He wouldn't have been able to make some of the things happen without congress. When Obama extended our tax dollars over seas to fund abortions, that wasn't Congress, that was simply Obama. Cap and Trade, Obamacare, and the Stimulus were also congress. Cap and Trade only had 8 republican votes for it and 44 democrats voted against it. Does that tell you it's a good idea? Obamacare has had the largest uprising against a policy in our lifetime, and the media is degrading the protesters. Does this tell you Obamacare is a good idea? Even Obama's liberal majority in congress is not hooked on to his health care bill.
Ask yourself a question, where do you think we will be in 3 and 1/2 years when all the policies have had time to come around full circle and also remember that he has that much time to make more policies? Will America be a Capitalistic Nation, and will it be a better place to live? Isn't he obligated to try and make things better for us in America? One last question. WHAT THE HELL IS HE DOING TO EVERYONE?
If you believe that the Republican party is representative of the Republican party of 1860 you would be mistaken.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Realigning_...
On a sidebar, I have today off, it's beautiful outside, and I'm sitting here at my computer. Good grief, how pathetic is that?
If you think the democratic party of yesteryear is the same as the one today you are mistaken, they are not the party of the working man as they used to claim to be.
goodgrief has an excellent point, why would anyone be on the computer when the day could be enjoyed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEeY59ofv...
Does Mr Gray think it is more educational to keep kids out a whole week for the horseshow than to watch our president for 18 minutes. maybe president Obama should go and sit in the classroom like George Bush did. I didnt hear anyone complaining then. It should not be up to him to decide what our kids can see.This seems more like communism than what our president is doing.A lot of Tenneseans do not like Mr Obama but they sure are spending the stimulus money he put his signature on.The schools I am sure used it.We gave George Bush 8 years to get us into this mess lets give our president more than 7 months.
It appears that President Obama is more concerned about our children than the school system. Bedford Counlty is being viewed as a backward, redneck county. I can see it now, Top News Story Of 2009: Gray afraid of children listening to the President's words of encouragement and Assualt by Cheetos. Only in Bedford County, God love us.
This speech is what parents are so up in arms about. Please tell me what is wrong with this. Please, someone? It's about taking personal responsibility, something conservatives and Republicans preach over and over again. I'm just disgusted by all this.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/MediaResources...
Just had a revelation....If we won't allow God in our classrooms, God would be really upset with us if we allow President Obama in Bedford County schools. Hey! It makes much more sense than many of the arguments I have seen here.
If you believe that the Republican party is representative of the Republican party of 1860 you would be mistaken.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Realigning_...
-- Posted by nathan.evans
When do you say this realignment took place?
Remember 80% of Republicans voted for the Civil Rights Act of 1964 vs. only 60% of Democrats.
Remember George Wallace and the Jim Crowe laws?
Democrats today fight tooth and nail against Social Security reform even though most black men will die before they are old enough to collect.
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We provide for blacks: housing, clothing, food, medical care, and any other basic life needs. All we ask in return is that they abide by a few simple rules. After all we are looking out for their best interest, and protecting them when they can't protect themselves.
The above could have been equally said by a current Democrat talking about government entitlement programs or a Virginian plantation owner.
The Democrats have always been about "keep 'em down, keep 'em dependent" from the 1800's through today. Nothing has changed.
I don't agree with people who don't want their children in school to listen or watch our president. I don't understand why they have to "screen" the presidental address before viewing it. We have listen to other presidents before without any problems but I don't know if it is because of his ethic background or what. It's all boils to race and people need to let him doing his job and it's a shame that people angry at him when he accomplish or try to accomplish some things like the unemployment rate went down 5% so far. The people who dislike him, stop wasting your breath and time because there's nothing you can do about it and y'all need to dael with it.
I read the speech and challenge others to do the same. I also ask you naysayers what you see hidden in it agenda wise. Shame on you parents for makinfg something political out of it. Shame on those pushing the ObamaCult rhetoric. Shame on those who use this stage to call others stupid, redneck and in general derogatory names. I challenge you to be adult enough to stand up and share this message with your children or with others children. You willingly let teachers train your kids and probably know as much about the new teacher as you do the president in as far as their ability to get the message across. Stop being so darn negative and help find the positive.
you can't blame Obama for the mess we are in anymore than you can blame Bush for all of it. We as individuals took part in creating the mess we are in today so it's about time we as individuals start helping to clean it up. And no , that doesn't mean blame Obama cause it isn't working the way it should he said from day one he can't do it alone it will take ALL , each and every one of us ...... so lets get on the right path together. If you can't offer a good solution.... then don't offer derogatory remarks either.
We gave George Bush 8 years to get us into this mess lets give our president more than 7 months.
-- Posted by lets be real
If you'll review the history just a bit, you'll see that the economy was doing fine until the Democratic majority congress took over. Just as the economic boom Clinton is given credit for was presided over by a Republican majority Congress.
Congress writes the spending bills, the president can only sign, veto, or let lay on the table, bills that Congress sends him.
like the unemployment rate went down 5% so far.
-- Posted by Big H
Whoever told you that figure was lying to you.
The unemployment rate has continued to climb and is very near 10%.
http://www.google.com/publicdata?ds=usun...
If you can't offer a good solution.... then don't offer derogatory remarks either.
-- Posted by PoppaJim on
Agreed!
The solution I propose is to get the government, Republican and Democrat, out of the way and let the free market do what it has done so well for the last 233 years.
i am very thankful that school systems are stepping up and screening this speech! i don't think that it is our presidents job to pep talk our children! The same man who advocates for sex education in KINDERGARDEN!! yes before most parents are even comfortable talking to there own children about where babies come from our President thinks it's a good idea for us to explain to them that homosexuality in normal? well my bible says it isn't normal that it is a sin! we as christian should pray for our nation to turn from sin and repent! this is why i am so thankful they are screening the speech not to disrespect our President but to protect our children! because honestly you never know what someones going to say until they say it!
I have looked at his proposed speech and I don't have a problem with it for High school students, however I do not think it is age appropriate for younger children.
I do not want ANY president parenting my children or attempting to lecture them about life, especially when they are so young, that is my job and/or the job of the parents of that child.
The older young people in High School have reached an age where I feel they have some ability to form an opinion regarding his comments, and should be allowed to do so IF THEY CHOSE TO DO SO at School. By that I mean that the high school students should have the option to opt out of the speech if they so choose. In other words hang out at study hall or some other supervised spot in High School.
Our presidents speech is located at: http://www.whitehouse.gov/MediaResources...
The copy and paste version is below:
Prepared Remarks of President Barack Obama
Back to School Event
Arlington, Virginia
September 8, 2009
The President: Hello everyone -- how's everybody doing today? I'm here with students at Wakefield High School in Arlington, Virginia. And we've got students tuning in from all across America, kindergarten through twelfth grade. I'm glad you all could join us today.
I know that for many of you, today is the first day of school. And for those of you in kindergarten, or starting middle or high school, it's your first day in a new school, so it's understandable if you're a little nervous. I imagine there are some seniors out there who are feeling pretty good right now, with just one more year to go. And no matter what grade you're in, some of you are probably wishing it were still summer, and you could've stayed in bed just a little longer this morning.
I know that feeling. When I was young, my family lived in Indonesia for a few years, and my mother didn't have the money to send me where all the American kids went to school. So she decided to teach me extra lessons herself, Monday through Friday -- at 4:30 in the morning.
Now I wasn't too happy about getting up that early. A lot of times, I'd fall asleep right there at the kitchen table. But whenever I'd complain, my mother would just give me one of those looks and say, "This is no picnic for me either, buster."
So I know some of you are still adjusting to being back at school. But I'm here today because I have something important to discuss with you. I'm here because I want to talk with you about your education and what's expected of all of you in this new school year.
Now I've given a lot of speeches about education. And I've talked a lot about responsibility.
I've talked about your teachers' responsibility for inspiring you, and pushing you to learn.
I've talked about your parents' responsibility for making sure you stay on track, and get your homework done, and don't spend every waking hour in front of the TV or with that Xbox.
I've talked a lot about your government's responsibility for setting high standards, supporting teachers and principals, and turning around schools that aren't working where students aren't getting the opportunities they deserve.
But at the end of the day, we can have the most dedicated teachers, the most supportive parents, and the best schools in the world -- and none of it will matter unless all of you fulfill your responsibilities. Unless you show up to those schools; pay attention to those teachers; listen to your parents, grandparents and other adults; and put in the hard work it takes to succeed.
And that's what I want to focus on today: the responsibility each of you has for your education. I want to start with the responsibility you have to yourself.
Every single one of you has something you're good at. Every single one of you has something to offer. And you have a responsibility to yourself to discover what that is. That's the opportunity an education can provide.
Maybe you could be a good writer -- maybe even good enough to write a book or articles in a newspaper -- but you might not know it until you write a paper for your English class. Maybe you could be an innovator or an inventor -- maybe even good enough to come up with the next iPhone or a new medicine or vaccine -- but you might not know it until you do a project for your science class. Maybe you could be a mayor or a Senator or a Supreme Court Justice, but you might not know that until you join student government or the debate team.
And no matter what you want to do with your life -- I guarantee that you'll need an education to do it. You want to be a doctor, or a teacher, or a police officer? You want to be a nurse or an architect, a lawyer or a member of our military? You're going to need a good education for every single one of those careers. You can't drop out of school and just drop into a good job. You've got to work for it and train for it and learn for it.
And this isn't just important for your own life and your own future. What you make of your education will decide nothing less than the future of this country. What you're learning in school today will determine whether we as a nation can meet our greatest challenges in the future.
You'll need the knowledge and problem-solving skills you learn in science and math to cure diseases like cancer and AIDS, and to develop new energy technologies and protect our environment. You'll need the insights and critical thinking skills you gain in history and social studies to fight poverty and homelessness, crime and discrimination, and make our nation more fair and more free. You'll need the creativity and ingenuity you develop in all your classes to build new companies that will create new jobs and boost our economy.
We need every single one of you to develop your talents, skills and intellect so you can help solve our most difficult problems. If you don't do that -- if you quit on school -- you're not just quitting on yourself, you're quitting on your country.
Now I know it's not always easy to do well in school. I know a lot of you have challenges in your lives right now that can make it hard to focus on your schoolwork.
I get it. I know what that's like. My father left my family when I was two years old, and I was raised by a single mother who struggled at times to pay the bills and wasn't always able to give us things the other kids had. There were times when I missed having a father in my life. There were times when I was lonely and felt like I didn't fit in.
So I wasn't always as focused as I should have been. I did some things I'm not proud of, and got in more trouble than I should have. And my life could have easily taken a turn for the worse.
But I was fortunate. I got a lot of second chances and had the opportunity to go to college, and law school, and follow my dreams. My wife, our First Lady Michelle Obama, has a similar story. Neither of her parents had gone to college, and they didn't have much. But they worked hard, and she worked hard, so that she could go to the best schools in this country.
Some of you might not have those advantages. Maybe you don't have adults in your life who give you the support that you need. Maybe someone in your family has lost their job, and there's not enough money to go around. Maybe you live in a neighborhood where you don't feel safe, or have friends who are pressuring you to do things you know aren't right.
But at the end of the day, the circumstances of your life -- what you look like, where you come from, how much money you have, what you've got going on at home -- that's no excuse for neglecting your homework or having a bad attitude. That's no excuse for talking back to your teacher, or cutting class, or dropping out of school. That's no excuse for not trying.
Where you are right now doesn't have to determine where you'll end up. No one's written your destiny for you. Here in America, you write your own destiny. You make your own future.
That's what young people like you are doing every day, all across America.
Young people like Jazmin Perez, from Roma, Texas. Jazmin didn't speak English when she first started school. Hardly anyone in her hometown went to college, and neither of her parents had gone either. But she worked hard, earned good grades, got a scholarship to Brown University, and is now in graduate school, studying public health, on her way to being Dr. Jazmin Perez.
I'm thinking about Andoni Schultz, from Los Altos, California, who's fought brain cancer since he was three. He's endured all sorts of treatments and surgeries, one of which affected his memory, so it took him much longer -- hundreds of extra hours -- to do his schoolwork. But he never fell behind, and he's headed to college this fall.
And then there's Shantell Steve, from my hometown of Chicago, Illinois. Even when bouncing from foster home to foster home in the toughest neighborhoods, she managed to get a job at a local health center; start a program to keep young people out of gangs; and she's on track to graduate high school with honors and go on to college.
Jazmin, Andoni and Shantell aren't any different from any of you. They faced challenges in their lives just like you do. But they refused to give up. They chose to take responsibility for their education and set goals for themselves. And I expect all of you to do the same.
That's why today, I'm calling on each of you to set your own goals for your education -- and to do everything you can to meet them. Your goal can be something as simple as doing all your homework, paying attention in class, or spending time each day reading a book. Maybe you'll decide to get involved in an extracurricular activity, or volunteer in your community. Maybe you'll decide to stand up for kids who are being teased or bullied because of who they are or how they look, because you believe, like I do, that all kids deserve a safe environment to study and learn. Maybe you'll decide to take better care of yourself so you can be more ready to learn. And along those lines, I hope you'll all wash your hands a lot, and stay home from school when you don't feel well, so we can keep people from getting the flu this fall and winter.
Whatever you resolve to do, I want you to commit to it. I want you to really work at it.
I know that sometimes, you get the sense from TV that you can be rich and successful without any hard work -- that your ticket to success is through rapping or basketball or being a reality TV star, when chances are, you're not going to be any of those things.
But the truth is, being successful is hard. You won't love every subject you study. You won't click with every teacher. Not every homework assignment will seem completely relevant to your life right this minute. And you won't necessarily succeed at everything the first time you try.
That's OK. Some of the most successful people in the world are the ones who've had the most failures. JK Rowling's first Harry Potter book was rejected twelve times before it was finally published. Michael Jordan was cut from his high school basketball team, and he lost hundreds of games and missed thousands of shots during his career. But he once said, "I have failed over and over and over again in my life. And that is why I succeed."
These people succeeded because they understand that you can't let your failures define you -- you have to let them teach you. You have to let them show you what to do differently next time. If you get in trouble, that doesn't mean you're a troublemaker, it means you need to try harder to behave. If you get a bad grade, that doesn't mean you're stupid, it just means you need to spend more time studying.
No one's born being good at things, you become good at things through hard work. You're not a varsity athlete the first time you play a new sport. You don't hit every note the first time you sing a song. You've got to practice. It's the same with your schoolwork. You might have to do a math problem a few times before you get it right, or read something a few times before you understand it, or do a few drafts of a paper before it's good enough to hand in.
Don't be afraid to ask questions. Don't be afraid to ask for help when you need it. I do that every day. Asking for help isn't a sign of weakness, it's a sign of strength. It shows you have the courage to admit when you don't know something, and to learn something new. So find an adult you trust -- a parent, grandparent or teacher; a coach or counselor -- and ask them to help you stay on track to meet your goals.
And even when you're struggling, even when you're discouraged, and you feel like other people have given up on you -- don't ever give up on yourself. Because when you give up on yourself, you give up on your country.
The story of America isn't about people who quit when things got tough. It's about people who kept going, who tried harder, who loved their country too much to do anything less than their best.
It's the story of students who sat where you sit 250 years ago, and went on to wage a revolution and found this nation. Students who sat where you sit 75 years ago who overcame a Depression and won a world war; who fought for civil rights and put a man on the moon. Students who sat where you sit 20 years ago who founded Google, Twitter and Facebook and changed the way we communicate with each other.
So today, I want to ask you, what's your contribution going to be? What problems are you going to solve? What discoveries will you make? What will a president who comes here in twenty or fifty or one hundred years say about what all of you did for this country?
Your families, your teachers, and I are doing everything we can to make sure you have the education you need to answer these questions. I'm working hard to fix up your classrooms and get you the books, equipment and computers you need to learn. But you've got to do your part too. So I expect you to get serious this year. I expect you to put your best effort into everything you do. I expect great things from each of you. So don't let us down -- don't let your family or your country or yourself down. Make us all proud. I know you can do it.
Thank you, God bless you, and God bless America.
After nearly half a century of de-segregation, this country has somehow found a way to bring segregation back to life....
-- Posted by nascarfanatic on Sun, Sep 6, 2009, at 8:58 AM
WOW . . . the stupidity of that statement blows me away. While I disagree with them not allowing the students to see the address from President Obama, I definitely do not see how this is racial? How stupid are you to suggest such.
Maybe if the Bedford County residents would venture out of their county lines and explore the world, maybe their views would not be parochial or narrow in range.
Mr. Gray is 100% right in keeping that speech away from the children. That speech is full of bad messages. I know as a parent of 3 children I would never want my children to hear such trash!
I personally want my children to fail. To not give their best effort. Homework why should they do that???? (For those who don't get it that is sarcasm)
REALLY PEOPLE!!!!! That speech is what this is all about???
Why would you not want the Leader of the best country in the world telling your child to try harder??? I don't care what president was in office Bush, Clinton or Obama it would not matter to me. I would feel the same.
I don't know if anyone has taken a good hard look at our young people out there lately but they could use the pep talk. It can and should come from the home first but that is not always an option. Some kids don't have a decent home life. Some don't have someone to look to for guidance.
What harm would come of this speech?
Yes, because only Bedford county schools are refusing to show obama's speech.
For those reading the released speech, remember this is the rewritten, revised version after parts of the first one caused the controversy. Among other things, this one does not include asking kids how they can help the pres. achieve his goals, as even the white house admits was in the original version.
Actually, it wasn't the speech that was rewritten. It was the lesson plan given to the teachers. I just knew someone would say it had been rewritten.
What in this speech would segue into asking kids how they could help obama? He didn't say what his goals were.
You just need to be aware that you are a member of a small minority of radical sickos and the rest of us will never let your cancerous fear and hate spread unchecked. Small victories like this give you comfort and empower those that share your viewpoints. Next time you will try and perhaps not have the same outcome. But that won't stop you. Eventually we end with thousands of you marching in our cities carrying rifles and wearing matching arm bands. This is how it starts.
-- Posted by nathan.evans on Mon, Sep 7, 2009, at 7:18 AM
To be quite honest, I feel that you have virtually no idea what you are talking about. Cancerous fear? Hate? How can you read that into anything I have posted? The only thing I fear is being dumbed down by reading the unsubstantiated rantings you seem to come up with on a daily basis. I respect your opinion because I respect everyone's opinion, however, I don't have to agree with it. You act like everyone should agree with you no matter what and that's not the way the world works. Maybe when you realize this, YOU will be able to listen (read) other opinions with an open mind and not have to resort to immature name calling in a defensive manner.
Daddy Bush sat down in a classroom in 1991 and asked students about the same questions. One in particular was What can we do to make our country better.America has let past presidents visit classrooms. Some one please tell me what is the difference now.I am ashame of the way some people in America are acting nowand some even call themselves christians.
It's probably that obama is a socialist and most of us don't want our children exposed to that kind of faulty ideology.
Personally I don't think the federal government should be involved with education at all. The deeper the government is involved the lower the test scores.
To be quite honest, I feel that you have virtually no idea what you are talking about. Cancerous fear? Hate? How can you read that into anything I have posted? The only thing I fear is being dumbed down by reading the unsubstantiated rantings you seem to come up with on a daily basis. I respect your opinion because I respect everyone's opinion, however, I don't have to agree with it. You act like everyone should agree with you no matter what and that's not the way the world works. Maybe when you realize this, YOU will be able to listen (read) other opinions with an open mind and not have to resort to immature name calling in a defensive manner.
-- Posted by bcpwoman on Mon, Sep 7, 2009, at 5:40 PM
You are a little confused about me. I am sure that if you met me you would realize how wrong you are about me. Either way, I was speaking about all the comments made by many many people over the past several months in general. The trend is troubling and whether you realize it or not you are aligning yourself with them, even if it is just a speech delivered to students.
How exactly does respecting opinions that I don't agree with work? Is that allowing KKK rallies in my hometown, or maybe it involves listening to a man disrespect a woman and not saying that he is out of line. No that is not who I am, if I have a problem with something someone says, you can bet that I will say something.
Hey tamb, if the speech was just released today, how do you know it hasn't been changed since last Wednesday?
The fact that Mr. Gray feels he is worthy to decide weather our students should see a message from our President shows me he has way too much ego and is way too politically swayed to be allowed to represent "our" students. He is representing the republican agenda 1st and only , and his actions here shows us that those not for his political party are of no concern. The president has always been given the respect his position deserves and should this have been Bush it would never had even been questioned, but because it is a democrat and we all know the southern right wingers do tend to despises blacks It is all too clear that his decision was one to suppress the democratic party.
This man, Mr Gray needs to step down and allow a person who is able and willing to leave politics at the door and represent all of our students and even more importantly TEACH BY EXAMPLE THAT IN A NATION AS GREAT AS OURS WE KNOW HOW TO SHOW RESPECT TO OUR ELECTED PRESIDENT EVEN IF WE DID NOT VOTE FOR HIM ! ! ! !
eD GRAY NEEDS TO STEP DOWN HE HAS DISGRACED THIS COMMUNITY BY TAKING AWAY OUR CHOICE,PARENTS COULD HAVE OPTED OUT BUT HE CHOSE TO DENY THEM THE RIGHT TO CHOOSE. HE HAS DECIDED TO CENSOR OURS CHILDREN'S RIGHT TO HEAR FROM OUR PRESIDENT.... THIS IS THE LEADER OF OUR NATION ENCOURAGING OUR STUDENTS TO EXCEL IT'S NOT LIKE SHUTTING DOWN SCHOOL FOR A STUPID HORSE SHOW OF NO EDUCATIONAL VALUE OTHE THAN SHOW THEM EDUCATION IS 2ND PLACE.IF EDUCATION AND GETTING EVERY MINUTE OF IT WERE A CONCERN TO HIM AS HE SAID THEN HE WOULD IN NO WAY ALLOW SCHOOL TO SHUT DOWN FOR A WHOLE WEEK FOR A HORSE SHOW.
AS CITIZENS WE SHOULD STAND UP AND FIGHT THIS AND HIS ACTIONS, SINCE WHEN DOES HE HAVE THE AUTHORITY OR THE RIGHT TO DO SO??? hE DOES NOT REPRESENT ALL OF THE STUDENTS HE PUTS HIS POLITICS FIRST.
I don't know that it hasn't been changed, but I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, because he is not stupid enough to try to foist his political agenda off on the children of this country.
It's probably that obama is a socialist and most of us don't want our children exposed to that kind of faulty ideology.
-- Posted by quietmike on Mon, Sep 7, 2009, at 7:10 PM
MIKE, IS IT FAULTY IDEOLOGY TO TEACH KIDS TO DO THEIR BEST IN SCHOOL? TO WORK HARK TO MAKE THE BEST OUT OF THEIR LIVES? oR DO YOU FELL THAT IS FAULTY FOR THEM TO HOPE AND EVEN CONCIDER THAT EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE NOT BORN WITH A SILVER SPOON IN THEIR MOUTH, FROM THE ELITE SO CALLED ACCEPTABLE FAMILIES THAT THEY ARE WORTHY JUST THE SAME TO WITH HARD WORK BE ABLE TO SUCCEED? PERHAPS YOU AND YOUR FELLOW RIGHT WINGERS FEAR THAT YOUR CHILD MAY COME IN 2ND TO ONE OF THOSE LOW INCOME KIDS NEXT TO THEM IN CLASS IF THE CHILDREN ARE TAUGHT THAT THEY ARE ALL WORTHY OF SUCCESS IF THEY WORK FOR IT, EVEN IF MOMMY AND DADDY ARE NOT THE MR. GRAYS OR BIG SHOTS OF THE COMMUNITY....... THAT IS WHAT I THINK SCARES YOU THE MOST THAT YOU MAY LOSE THE SOCIAL STATUS THAT MAKES YOU FEEL SUPERIOR TO THOSE WHOM YOU CONCERN BELOW YOUR STANDARDS - YOU NEED SOMETHING TO STAND ON TO MAKE YOU FEEL HIGH AND MIGHTY......KEEP THEM IGNORANT SO YOUR COMPETITION ISN'T AS STEEP.
My children attend school in Moore County and they have the option to opt of of watching the speech. I have chosen to excersize that right. I have no problem with the President talking about education and trying to be uplifting to our students but he should do it in a manner so that parents are there watching with them to discuss with their child the things that he has to say. I do however not trust that this wont turn into a political speech. If God is not allowed in schools then I believe that the President should not be allowed in as well.
For those reading the released speech, remember this is the rewritten, revised version after parts of the first one caused the controversy
-- Posted by quietmike on Mon, Sep 7, 2009, at 4:31 PM
Why don't you post a copy of the original speech for us? Oh, that's right. You never saw it, and neither did anyone else. People complained about it before it was even released, and that tells me all I need to know. That this has nothing to do with school children at all. Its about a segment of our population who cannot accept the fact that Obama is the President, and feel the need to politicize everything the man does.
I can respect someone who has clear-headed, fair-minded opposition to Obama's policies, even if I disagree with their opinions. But if those people cannot separate themselves from this wide-eyed fury at everything he does, says, thinks, wears and eats, then don't expect be taken seriously by most people.
Why don't you post a copy of the original speech for us? Oh, that's right. You never saw it, and neither did anyone else. People complained about it before it was even released, and that tells me all I need to know.
-- Posted by Richard
Parts of the lesson plan for the original speech were released and that's what everyone was upset about.
If the first speech was acceptable, why did he change it? Why did it take almost a full week to release a copy, unless they were editing it?
Either way, I was speaking about all the comments made by many many people over the past several months in general. The trend is troubling and whether you realize it or not you are aligning yourself with them, even if it is just a speech delivered to students.
If you were addressing all of the comments made by many people, why did it appear to be addressed only to me? And for the record, if you knew me, you would realize that I try to align myself with no one but myself. I spent years in a marraige where my thoughts were not my own. Where my opinion was worthless. I got paroled from that prison and have vowed since to speak and act for myself and my children until they come of age. They do have their opinions now and we discuss them regularly. (even the ones I have trouble hearing!) I chose not to allow my child to hear this address based on my decisions about the President, not because I was following the crowd.
How exactly does respecting opinions that I don't agree with work? Is that allowing KKK rallies in my hometown, or maybe it involves listening to a man disrespect a woman and not saying that he is out of line. No that is not who I am, if I have a problem with something someone says, you can bet that I will say something.
-- Posted by nathan.evans on Mon, Sep 7, 2009, at 7:55 PM --
You can respect an opinion without agreeing with it. I respect the fact that you have an opinion. I don't agree with what you say but that's what makes this interesting. What I don't respect is the fact that you resort to name calling. Don't judge a group of people based on a couple of comments. Please.
You know there were so many issues that I wanted to touch on when I started reading everyone's comments that I had to stop and actually wait a few minutes before deciding where to start, that being said I decided to let our honors student son read the speech as well as our daughter who was born with a couple of disabilities (no we do not draw a check or any other type of assistance and in no way am I saying that she is not as intelligent as our son because she is very highly intelligent, motivated and driven to do well, she just isn't at the age to be considered for honors classes yet, I am just simply showing the diversity between our 2 children). They read quietly along with me as I read it aloud and after doing so we had a discussion on what the speech meant to them and the things that stood out the most to them, both of them commented on the fact that President Obama stated when he was young, his family lived in Indonesia for a few years, and his mother didn't have the money to send him where all the American kids went to school and that his father left them when he was 2 and they felt that could have been a factor in why he is so misguided in his beliefs that all kids do is sit around and watch tv and play Xbox, then our daughter asked a very enlightening question that made me think,-you know, she has a brilliant point, she asked "Does he get paid for advertising for Xbox every time he says it?" and then she said,"you know it will be Christmas soon so alot of kids will remember the President said that Xbox is the game of choice for American kids." And then our son said "You know she basically just summed it all up, different people will remember different things that the President says just like we all always have, no matter who the President was, but what anyone does with anything they hear or see is up to that individual person, so mom I am asking you now that if we keep our grades up and do our chores do you think that maybe if you and dad can afford it we might get an Xbox this year for Christmas?" Then he laughed and said, "but seriously if it means you or dad have to get a third job then forget the xbox we prefer game night together as a family over video games alone anyway", then he kissed me on the check, ruffled his sisters hair, walked past his father saying love ya dad and went back to his room to finish reading his book where he left off.Then our daughter said, "you know what mom, I think all the people the President seemed to be proud of were close to or have the same color skin he has, I wish he would say how white kids have it hard too and that maybe he could be proud of us too, just because I'm white doesn't mean everything is easy, you know I have had ALOT(she emphasized alot when she said it) of bad days and things happen to me too." So I pulled her onto my lap and hugged her tightly and said "I'm so sorry you feel that way baby girl, I wish I could make the President understand how his speech made you feel and I'm sorry that I asked you to read it, if I had known in advance that it would have made you feel unimportant to him then I never would have even thought of having this discussion with you and your brother." She looked at me with tears in her big blue eyes and said, "I just hope no other kids ever feel this way." Now here it is several hours later, the kids have long gone to bed and I am on my break telling you the avid reader and the even more avid debaters of the events that occurred today as my family discussed the speech in question here, and all I can really think about and even really comment on is the fact that it doesn't matter what color your skin is,where you have been in your life, where you are in your life, or even how easy or difficult your journey has been, what matters is how you make the children in your life (and I mean all children that you come in contact with, not just the immediate children around you) feel and that is especially true of the President of the United States, simply because We The People have given him the power of influence, whether it be good or bad, which is why the old sayings "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you", "If you can't say anything good, then don't say anything at all" and "Share and Share alike" should always be considered before anyone makes a public speech to motivate anyone else,especially our children, simply because you never know who will be listening, what they have been through, or how you are going to make them feel and after all is said and done, you have no control on how those feelings materialize, it is left up to the parents and confidants of those receiving the speech and possible hurt feelings, to help them perceive the true meaning behind what should have been said in the first place. So NO I personally do not think the schools should broadcast anything that ANYONE (especially the President-no matter who he or she may be at the given time) has to say without analyzing it thoroughly first, just so no child what so ever has to ever feel in any way as though they aren't as important as someone else is, just because of the speech givers and lets not forget those behind the scenes writers, misguided views and judgments of We the American People. We are all of very diverse backgrounds and we each have a story that is just as captivating and as important as the next. Which is after all what makes us "One Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all"
Please show me one part of that speech that says or even implies to the slightest degree that only minorities have hardships and all white people are privileged? If your little story is true and this speech made your daughter cry, it's because you told her that Obama doesn't care about white people. There's nothing there that would suggest that to anyone, especially a young child.
Kanye West said "George Bush doesn't care about black people." Corywh says "Obama doesn't care about white people." Can't we all drop our silly prejudices, take the time to look past skin color, and just all get along?
Has it not occurred to anyone that the only people "politicizing the classroom" are the parents who admittedly disagree with his politics (not the fact that he is speaking about hard work, and persistence in obtaining a good education) and the school board for not allowing the speech? Obama is not politicizing the classroom, take a gander in the mirror folks.
its okay to be out of school for a week to cater to rich white folks, but we cant take 20 min for OUR PRESIDENT, like i said, make any excuse you want, but actions speak very loudly!
When President George H.W. Bush delivered a similar speech on October 1, 1991, from Alice Deal Junior High School in Washington DC, the controversy was just beginning. Democrats, then the majority party in Congress, not only denounced Bush's speech -- they also ordered the General Accounting Office to investigate its production and later summoned top Bush administration officials to Capitol Hill for an extensive hearing on the issue.
So you see folks, Republicans are not the only ones who complain when a president decides to speak to schools. How easily some of us forget things like this.
"We stress bell-to-bell instruction, and we don't want to waste a single minute of instructional time," stated Gray.
Just snorted my coffee out my nose laughing at that one. I couldn't begin to count the number of keep-em-quiet, non-educational movies that my kids have watched at school. Give me a break.
"you know what mom, I think all the people the President seemed to be proud of were close to or have the same color skin he has, I wish he would say how white kids have it hard too and that maybe he could be proud of us too, just because I'm white doesn't mean everything is easy, you know I have had ALOT(she emphasized alot when she said it) of bad days and things happen to me too."
Posted by corywh on Tue, Sep 8, 2009, at 2:55 AM
Outside of Jazmin Perez I don't read where the speech state the ethnicity of these kids. Am I missing something? How did/do you know the color of their skin?
I hear ya cascade mama....due to this bell to bell instructional time statement..I don't want to hear about anymore movies, strong man shows, or any other frivilous waste of tax dollars...this will include STUDY HALL used for BasketBall Practice. He set the whole system up for some serious scrutiny...LOL.
Not anywhere did I say that the speech stated or implied anything about Obama caring for or not caring for white people. Nor did I say what exactly the ethnicity of those the president mentioned happens to be. What I simply said is what my children happened to think were points of interest to them, and no we do not make it a habit of speaking about anyone's skin color in our home, so No that was not implied or said to either of my children, I did however state that "We are all of very diverse backgrounds and we each have a story that is just as captivating and as important as the next." I did not say that I agree or disagree with his politics. My point was exactly this, no matter who you are but especially if you are the President, you really need to think about what you say and how it may be taken by others, which was very well proven by what several thought and others posted about my comment. And that rings even truer when it comes to children of all ages. Did you ever think that just because my daughter made a statement about being white that doesn't necessarily mean everyone in our household is white, truth be told the reason she perceived the names in the speech as being of what you said are minorities is because many of the people in her life are people of color and at one time or another she and I have heard several of them make a HUGE deal out of Obama's color and how "finally we have a BLACK MAN in office that will take care of our folks". As a matter of fact she and I looked for pictures of the individuals that Obama mentioned and I showed her that Mr. Shultz looks rather white with red hair. Which just goes to further prove the fact that what a child perceives is being said and what an adult may actually be saying can be two very different things and that as I stated before "the fact that it doesn't matter what color your skin is,where you have been in your life, where you are in your life, or even how easy or difficult your journey has been, what matters is how you make the children in your life (and I mean all children that you come in contact with, not just the immediate children around you) feel and that is especially true of the President of the United States, simply because We The People have given him the power of influence, whether it be good or bad, which is why the old sayings "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you", "If you can't say anything good, then don't say anything at all" and "Share and Share alike" should always be considered before anyone makes a public speech to motivate anyone else,especially our children, simply because you never know who will be listening, what they have been through, or how you are going to make them feel and after all is said and done, you have no control on how those feelings materialize, it is left up to the parents and confidants of those receiving the speech and possible hurt feelings, to help them perceive the true meaning behind what should have been said in the first place." I guess maybe I should have stated that the people around children, especially those of authority need to realize what they are doing to children when they make such an issue out of skin color, because it isn't fair to blame or claim good or bad due to "skin color" no matter who you are simply because we all have good times and bad.
The speech was taken out of a lot of schools for the protection of our children and the only thing the Obama backers can do is complain. Everybody has the right to watch it at home, so do it if you want to watch is so badly. Quit your complaining and moaning and go about your daily lives. People referred to the parents complaining as "few but loud", if they are so few then why was this a National problem? Parents were most likely not concerned about the stupid horse show and their kids being let out of school for it because it wasn't the school forcing them to watch something, it was time alone with their kids. I personally don't agree with letting kids out of school for a horse show. I REALLY disagree with the president whoever he may be addressing my kids with an unknown at the time speech and the lesson plan accompanying the speech was asking how children in grade school can help the president? How is this not indoctrination? I know he changed the speech and it's now released to the public, but if you can't understand parents fears of what this man is capable of from past actions and what was in the lesson plan less than a week ago then you are seriously delusional. It doesn't matter what I post, the ignorant people supporting Obama will still back him no matter what he does at this point. Most of the people with any intelligence have already left his side just in case you haven't seen his approval ratings as of yet. It just amazes me how blind some people can be when the truth is hitting you in the face so blatantly. Have a blessed day :)
When the school board can make the decision, or dictate, What our schools can or can't watch.....Who's the communist? I think it should be for the older students for sure but it should also be up to the individual schools.
corywh,,, you say your child had comments stating he/she was concerned about Obama only caring about children the same color as him, or the silly conclusion that he is selling xboxs. This is all a wonderful example of why it was suggested that the speech be discussed afterwords so that the students could go through these assumptions and given the chance to have the wrong conclusions corrected allowing them to get the real message of get an education.
You dropped the ball compleatly by allowing them once they talked about their conclusions by not explaining to them where they were wrong in their assumptions. Did you explaine to your son that NO Obama does not get paid to indorse a product but instead is explianing to kids they need to put the game down and study? id you explain to your daughter that even though she feels Obama wasn't speeking to her because she is not of color that that is not what he was saying or that he WAS talking to all children of color? From the sound of your y our post you cuddled her and confirmed her fears thus enforcing them, which is not helping her but instead filling her false assumptions that are hurting her. You took what stared as a great effort to parent your children and totally blew it by not using to teach them the message that was intended by the message. You used it to allow false assumptions become ingrained in your children that will only in the end reinforce wrong mind sets that are being used to divide this country. By doing that you have done a disservice to your children when you could have in fact given them a wonderful chance to learn a good message on the importance of education from the president, you instead reinforced false conclusions that will only serve to add to the division of this country. You used the speech to reinforce right wing lies about racism rather than to explain and reassure your child that OUR PRESIDENTS are there for all of us.
It is a terrible thing when the head of a school system puts HIS politics ahead of his job. ! ! ! Ed Gray has done just that. It is not for him to chose, parent had an option to opt out and chose if their children could or could not watch this message. ED GRAY WHO HAS NO PROBLEM WITH KIDS MISSING OVER A WEEK OF EDUCATION FOR THE RICH FOLKS TO PLAY HORSE SHOW, ALL OF A SUDDEN IS CONCERNED OVER 20 MINUTES OF TIME SPENT ENCOURAGING THE IMPORTANCE OF EDUCATION IS A JOKE !!!! THE SHOW CAN STILL GO ON WITH THE STUDENTS IN SCHOOL
WE AS A COMMUNITY NEED TO INSIST THAT THIS MAN STEP DOWN, HIS POLITICS ARE MORE IMPORTANT TO HIM THAN REPRESENTING ALL STUDENTS IN THIS COMMUNITY, ANY TIME WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REINFORCE THE IMPORTANCE OF EDUCATION WE NEED TO USE IT. MANY CHILDREN COME FROM FAMILIES WHO DO NOT STRESS THAT IMPORTANCE AT HOME AND NOW BECAUSE GRAY CONSIDERED HIS POLITICAL AGENDA MORE IMPORTANT THESE CHILDREN HAVE LOST A GREAT OPPORTUNITY. AGAIN PARENTS HAD THE CHOICE TO OPT OUT. ED GRAY TOOK AWAY ALL OPTION HERE BY FORCING HIS REPUBLICAN AGENDA AND CHOOSING FOR US IF OUR CHILDREN COULD OR COULD NOT SEE THIS MESSAGE IN SCHOOL.
HE NEEDS TO STEP DOWN OR BE REMOVED FROM THIS POSITION SINCE HE HAS JUST PROVEN HE DOES NOT REPRESENT ALL STUDENTS BUT RATHER HIS POLITICAL PARTIES AGENDA INSTEAD.
TO BE ABLE TO AS A GROUP DISCUSS AND SHARE THIS MESSAGE AMONG THEMSELVES THE KIDS COULD HAVE LEARNED A LOT OF VALUABLE INFORMATION, THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH KIDS LEARNING THAT THEY ALL HAVE THE CHANCE AND RESPONSIBILITY TO GET AN EDUCATION IF THEY WORK HARD AND WANT IT. ED GRAY DECIDED IT WAS BETTER FOR HIM TO BACK A POLITICAL AGENDA AGAINST OUR PRESIDENT THAT WISHES AT ALL COST TO UNDERMINE EVERYTHING HE DOES NO MATTER WHO IT HURTS. GRAY HAS HURT OUR CHILDREN INTENTIONALLY AND PUSHED HIS POLITICS ON EVERYONE. HE NEEDS TO GO.
If you want to watch the address later, go to www.whitehouse.gov
Of course they could have decided to air it and allow any student who didn't want to watch to opt out. I'll bet that they all watch it on the internet later since it has been banned at the school.
-- Posted by Jacks4me on Sun, Sep 6, 2009, at 9:47 AM
jACK THAT WOULD IN A PERFECT WORLD BE GREAT, BUT WHAT ABOUT ALL THE POORER FAMILIES WHO HAVE NO INTERNET OF CABLE? THEY DON'T HAVE A WAY TO GET THIS INFORMATION, WHAT ABOUT STUDENTS WHO HAVE PARENTS WHO COULD CARE LESS ABOUT THEIR EDUCATION THOSE KIDS HAVE NO WAY TO CHOOSE TO SEE THIS NOW DO THEY? AND THESE CHILDREN ARE THE ONES WHO NEED THIS BOOST AND ENCOURAGEMENT THE MOST BUT SINCE OUR MR. GRAY CHOSE POLITICS OVER STUDENTS THESE CHILDREN WILL NOT HAVE A CHOICE OR CHANCE TO GET THIS LESSON FROM OUR PRESIDENT.
Tom Jones I don't what to alarm you but the one hour speech lasted only about twenty two minutes. It was nowhere near an indoctrination. It was simply a person telling kids how they need to shoulder some of the responsibility in order to achieve something in their life. Unlike you I did not have the chance to know what was in the original speech. I do know however, that many of the fears of Obama Cult, Hitler style youth, and pushing a political agenda simply did not arise from this speech. None of them were founded excepting in the minds of the fear spreaders and those who follow these untruths BLINDLY. I hope everyone can take this and see just how ridiculous some people are in taking a goodwill gesture and turning it into such a freak show with nothing accomplished other than to spread resentment and diminish hopes that this country might just be on the right track even if it isn't your track.
All schools have internet access where the kids can get educational information. The public library has internet access available. Most poor families still have tv's. Your argument of the poor not having access is not valid. You have a problem with a man that is doing what he feels is in the best interest of the children that he is paid to watch over and are calling for him to step down because he is doing his job? I am pretty sure Obama feels like he is doing his job and I'm not calling for him to resign even though that would be wonderful. The only problem with his resignation would be that we would be stuck with Biden at that point. I think we should get real here folks and if you don't like the way things are run in Bedford, you are more than welcome to move to San Fransisco, Ca. Have a great day!
Poppa, you have such insight. How can I be more like you? I mentioned so many times that this was an hour speech, how could I have missed that it was only 20 minutes. That is one thing that just shows how blind you really are because I never said this was an hour speech. You truly are one of the BLIND followers of Obama, so you know all about being blind don't you. Every complaint I read against this speech was based on facts. I also never said I read what the speech contained, only what the curriculum contained. If you are going to attempt to even sound semi-intelligent please go about it a different way, because this way isn't working. I'm proud of the school systems that didn't show this speech. I'll reiterate that Obama has no business addressing our children when the parents and educators don't know what he's going to say until the day before. The actions taken by superintendents to not show it were well founded. Why aren't you guys complaining about this at work any way and if you are at work why are you on a blog instead of working?
Once again, Free Speech 0, Obamaphobics 1
This would actually be free speech 1 since the parents and educators are exercising their right to protest. Obamanomics is destructive, no one bothered to answer my question from an earlier post about where you see this Capitalistic Country at the end of Obama's term, will America be a better place to live or not? Most of us know the answer and that is why common sense Americans protest a Socialist agenda.
LetsGetRealFolks- if you didn't have such an opinionated outlook on absolutely everyone and everything AND if you would give others a chance instead of ALWAYS ASSuming that you and only you are correct and no one matters except you, UNLESS they at all times agree with you and concede to your all knowing God-like persona you believe yourself to be (said while bowing down and proclaiming I'm not worthy O' Mighty LetsGetRealFolks)(sarcasm for those of you who need to be told when it's used) then maybe you would have realized that you are not the only person on here who knows how and does take every opportunity to teach their child about the diversity in our world, nowhere in either of my posts did I insult yours or anyone else's parenting abilities nor did I give you any warrant on accusing me of not taking the opportunity to talk to both of my children on what they felt and said, EXCUSE ME for not giving you the whole rundown of our entire time spent on the subject throughout the day maybe you might like to come for dinner sometime so that you may witness my abilities as a parent and the intelligence levels of my children and how we actually do discuss important issues without name calling and arrogant I'm right, You're wrong attitudes like you have so blatantly exhibited on more than one occasion. And not only do we discuss issues and let everyone express their thoughts in my home but we also give them the right to feel the way they feel while loving and embracing them when needed as well as making sure that they have all the facts needed to help them understand why they feel what they feel when they feel it and how to make the right decisions for themselves on how they can change or embrace what they feel. And as for the Xbox comments, both of my children, in there own ways were teasing about a long standing joke if you will that has been going on in our home about children and there xboxes and why our children don't have one to call there own but instead we have a family game night where a pack of cards or one of many other games that my husband and I both played as children,or if we play a video game it is the Nintendo Wii, are enjoyed not only with our children but when one or more of their friends (and let me just say we usually have quite a crowd) ask if they can come over to join in on the fun instead of wanting to run the streets or sit at home with their video games, they are greeted with open arms, hearts, and minds and they leave here with a feeling of unity and the sense of belonging without being judged for their appearances or opinions. And I might add that on more than one occasion we have had parents of these children come over and join in on the fun because their children have expressed how much they enjoy being here for those times. With all that being said, it doesn't matter what you have to say after I post this, all that matters is that you and anyone else who reads this may actually take the time to look at what you're time spent with you're children consists of and if you're child feels as though they can express themselves without being made feel as though their opinions don't hold any merit unless it goes along with yours. So please stop assuming you know everything about everyone's parenting abilities and don't accuse me or anyone else of "dropping the ball" on the opportunity to teach and love a child. And why is it that you are so sure that he doesn't receive compensation for mentioning certain products? Have you been there during any possible meetings he has had with any ad execs or media personnel, I dare to say I doubt you have. Am I saying that I have or that this is what is happening, No I am not but I am also not saying that the possibility of it happening is how did you put it? a silly conclusion? In all actuality she may have been correct in her conclusion after all economics and mass communications and advertising all teach us that if someone of importance mentions a specific name of a specific type of product then the sales for that product usually increase, it will be interesting to see how long it takes for the xbox ads for the sale of their product and what their "sale price" may be to actually begin appearing in our mailboxes and across the tv screens where Obama himself has so graciously on more than one occasion proclaimed the name of the xbox and that children all across the nation spend alot of time playing, which to a child could be interpreted as I need an Xbox because the President says I'm supposed to have one. Now then I hope you think before you speak or post as it may be and actually consider that maybe you could read twice what someone else has stated and actually consider what they are saying before you condemn them to what you have concluded as being unable to have any opinion or any merit worth considering unless you can pick it apart and make it what you want it to be to make yourself feel better about why it is that you are who you are and you are where you are on your own doings. If you don't like Mr. Gray then confront him about it in person and let him have the opportunity to right or at least explain what his doings to you are and please do so with the respect that we all deserve as human beings.
it is not now or ever the responsibility of the school board to impose their political agenda on our students! It is not Ed grays right to censor, he took away a choice, where if he had the best interest of the students and community he would have respected the parents and allowed them to have a choice.
THIS IS NOT A COMMUNITY OF DICTATORSHIP AND MR. GRAY HAS NO RIGHT TO CENSOR MESSAGES FROM THE PRESIDENT OF OUR UNITED STATES THAT ENCOURAGE EDUCATION. HE NEEDS TO GO , HE WAS PUT IN THAT POSITION FOR EDUCATIONAL REASONS NOT POLITICAL AND SINCE HE IS UNWILLING TO SEPARATE THE TWO HE NEEDS TO BE AN HONORABLE MAN AND STEP DOWN.
No I will not be forced out of my home because of the backward right wingers are afraid of change and improvement. Because the right wing are toO narrow minded to allow a speech on responsiblity and the value of education to be heard in the schools. I am going to stand tall and proud of my country and respect my president even when he may not be the one I voted for, I am going to pray for the future of the children here, that they will not be doomed to there narrow minded backwards politics that think it's better to censor our students and keep them blind than to teach them to grow into well informed, educated responsible adults.
No I will not leave my home so the likes of you can continue to condemn it's youth to ignorance and intolerance to keep the ones they feel are not worthy down. I will stay and fight for their right to grow learn and achieve.
Did you support W. like you support Obama letsgetrealfolks? If you didn't vote for Obama, which you insinuate in your post then surely you supported Bush with the same fervor. Why don't you go and sit down in front of Mr. Gray and discuss your complaints with him as corywh suggested? I think the readers with any intelligence know who the ignorant and intolerant ones are lgrf. Not letting kids see Obama's speech didn't hinder their education as you suggested.
Ya'll are getting too personal. LetsGetRealFolks, save your breathe and fingers, there's no rhyme or reason to ignorance. If they really cared about a students education, their children wouldn't be in a failing system, they'd make their system accountable and Demand better educators and technology. The School Board hallways are litered with literature on Awesome tech. stuff they could be using. Instead of their children being pushed to the side, they could stand up and ask where's the education for Every student, not just the chosen few. They'd know what goes on in their schools, not just what they have to wear!! It's never wrong until it happens to their child...and it's happened to every child that is not encouraged to get an education, rather told...this is what you should expect. Take a good look when you go by a school when the bell rings...about 1 out of 5 will walk out w/ their head down...doesn't anyone ever wonder why?? The heat's off the school board about the dress code, and they are all breathing a sigh of relief, they may Make Mr. Gray take that raise, since he made the call that made everything right in this system!!!
as a conservative, i am appalled. admittedly, i am not a republican. but, as a realistic libertarian (meaning i know we are not about to carry many elections), i realize we need republicans to espouse at least some conservative beliefs. events that serve to weaken the republican party's influence do tilt the balance the other way, and (as i have been saying for some time) crazy talk is not swinging things your way. from the birther nonsense all the way thru one ridiculous assertion after another to this latest bit of idiocy (what do you think, obama has the "evil eye" and can hex our children thru the tv?) you guys are making a laughingstock out of conservatism. i'm not worried about the people who get on here and argue with you. it is all the people at home or around water coolers who are snickering and laughing at you that worry me. if you want some historical perspective, go back and look at the "know nothings". actually i think they called themselves the american party. with a similar sort of leadership, playing on xenophobia, racism, and religious prejudice, they collapsed the whig party. at the seeming height of their power, they were already in decline. by 1855 they had amassed an impressive number of elected offices, yet ultimately accounted for no significant legislation (sound familiar?). by 1859 they were nothing more than a footnote, holding sway in a few backwaters. i think we all know the admonition about the result of not understanding history. the bottom line is, the fate of america is not at stake. america is much stronger than to be undone by any single administration. the future of the republican party is much more at risk. you do have responsible leaders, if you can tear yourself away from the siren song of the charlatans. great americans, such as john mccain, are almost begging for the crazy talk to end. it is the influence of your own underlying political philosophy that is most endangered if this keeps going. as a libertarian i can tell you what your electoral future holds if mainstream america comes to believe you are all kooks.
MY TOWN When I first came to Shelbyville Central High School people were up in arms about the amount of black football and basketball players that were starters. I had a parent come up to me and say that his white son should play and not me. I was 15 years old, I didn't really think about it. Now that I'm older I see he is one of the leading republicans in Shelbyville. His son once called me a "n****r" on the football field and we had it out. Now we are the best of friends.He told me that his father was just an old redneck and he will never change. I see now Shelbyville will never change. Until we stop letting the republican party or the rich folks that look down on all that's not white in this world. We are all doomed to be closed minded people stuck in the backwoods of time. A student from Southside told me today that his teacher said to another teacher in his class that she was glad that they did not have to watch Obama today because she just don't like him. She can go to her home and say whatever she wants to say about anything, but when a kid has to hear all this, it's just wrong. I just want to know one thing, when are we going to start burning books and burning crosses in people's yards because they're not republican, because people that's what's next. The republican party will breed a whole new generation of young men and women that hate them. In my lifetime I have never seen people try to influence young kids in this way. Good luck republican party, your going to need it.
There's so much passion with these postings, I almost want a cigarette after reading them.
Sorry that happened to you when you were 15, that was uncalled for. But no matter how many people on this blog want to say this is about race it isn't. The only people pulling the race card are on the Obama side of the camp. No one in opposition to the president speaking to our children in school has said one thing about race. Every argument put forth was based on facts, not racial bias. I still have not seen one factual argument on Obama's behalf why this should have been shown to children especially in grade school. He could have an announcement on NBC (free I'm sure) to address children while at their homes with parental supervision. When Bush (the elder) addressed the kids in '91 the democrats held investigations into it and tried to bring out something negative of the cost to put it out to the kids. This is completely bias if you think Obama can do it and Bush couldn't. By the way, the democratic party is the one that needs all the luck because of people in charge who won't be there anymore after 2010. I would like to truly say good luck to Ty and go vote on Sept. 23 (early voting) or Oct 13.
Get your head out of the sand sir, it's all about race. If you don't see that your blind.It has been from the start.
Ok, head's out of the sand now. WOW, it is all about race, I see it, I really do.
Nah, just kidding, head was never in the sand. Still don't see anyone pulling the race card except Obama followers. Good night to all, left and right
I get so sick of being alluded to as a racist because I do not want America to become a Socialist (or worse) nation. I have problems with a President who has spent more than all other Presidents combined, who has more non-vetted Czars than Russia ever did, who has friends like Bill Ayers, Father Flager, Tony Rezco (all white)...for being the only one to speak against providing medical care botched-abortion babies who survive...for frequently voting "present" while in the Senate so as not to have a voting record that could be damaging...these JamesRP have nothing to do with race. When watching a football game, do you think I just cheer for the white players? Or am I racist because I think that a black offensive lineman was holding? Concern about the speech was not race. People right now are not trusting the President's policies, policies shared and moved through congress by Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi, neither of whom are black. I distrust anyone who teaches Saul Alinsky's Rules for Radicals. I question an administration where the V.P. says that spending more money is the way to prevent bankruptcy. None of this has to do with race. None of it. I also believe that God created people...all people, and disrespecting the creation disrespects the creator. It's not about race, it's about content of character.
I am sorry folks but this has nothing to do with race . . . it is all about politics. If it was about race then those individuals would also be complaining about black teachers educating their children in the school system but I haven't heard any complaints of that nature.
Unlike the Obama speech, in 1991 most of the controversy came after, not before, the president's school appearance. The day after Bush spoke, the Washington Post published a front-page story suggesting the speech was carefully staged for the president's political benefit. "The White House turned a Northwest Washington junior high classroom into a television studio and its students into props," the Post reported.
With the Post article in hand, Democrats pounced. "The Department of Education should not be producing paid political advertising for the president, it should be helping us to produce smarter students," said Richard Gephardt, then the House Majority Leader. "And the president should be doing more about education than saying, 'Lights, camera, action.'"
Democrats did not stop with words. Rep. William Ford, then chairman of the House Education and Labor Committee, ordered the General Accounting Office to investigate the cost and legality of Bush's appearance. On October 17, 1991, Ford summoned then-Education Secretary Lamar Alexander and other top Bush administration officials to testify at a hearing devoted to the speech. "The hearing this morning is to really examine the expenditure of $26,750 of the Department of Education funds to produce and televise an appearance by President Bush at Alice Deal Junior High School in Washington, DC," Ford began. "As the chairman of the committee charged with the authorization and implementation of education programs, I am very much interested in the justification, rationale for giving the White House scarce education funds to produce a media event."
Unfortunately for Ford, the General Accounting Office concluded that the Bush administration had not acted improperly. "The speech itself and the use of the department's funds to support it, including the cost of the production contract, appear to be legal," the GAO wrote in a letter to Chairman Ford. "The speech also does not appear to have violated the restrictions on the use of appropriations for publicity and propaganda."
That didn't stop Democratic allies from taking their own shots at Bush. The National Education Association denounced the speech, saying it "cannot endorse a president who spends $26,000 of taxpayers' money on a staged media event at Alice Deal Junior High School in Washington, D.C. -- while cutting school lunch funds for our neediest youngsters."
Lost in all the denouncing and investigating was the fact that Bush's speech itself, like Obama's yesterday, was entirely unremarkable. "Block out the kids who think it's not cool to be smart," the president told students. "If someone goofs off today, are they cool? Are they still cool years from now, when they're stuck in a dead end job. Don't let peer pressure stand between you and your dreams.
BUSH OR OBAMA-WHO CARES. HE'S THE PRESIDENT AND THESE ARE PUBLIC SCHOOLS. DON'T LIKE IT? USE YOUR HEAD DURING THE NEXT ELECTION! TOO EASY.
Jax, I knew you weren't that smart. I like the copy and paste of jake d's blog entry from
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/thefix/...
This is a blog entry from a person on a left wing paper web site. There are a few things that didn't get mentioned in the blog entry. One being that Bush didn't send out a lesson plan less than a week before that included how grade school children could help the president. Funny how some of the facts get left out for left wingers benefits. Just like when the left tries to quote the bible by leaving out most of a verse to further their cause where as if they read the whole verse it would mean something else. If your going to believe everything you read, be weary of blog entries on a left wing newspaper web site. D.A.
Tomjones . . . evidently you aren't that sharp yourself considering anyone in here will tell you that I am not liberal nor do I support Obama. I posted that article because it points out that people opposed Bush when he did an address to school children and that the uproar about Obama doing it isn't a one time deal and that the Democrats are just as guilty of doing the same thing. People want to say this is racial motivated but it is not because if that is the case then that means people disagreed with Bush doing the speech just because he was white. See how silly that sounds!
Makes me wonder if you actually read the comment at all . . .
I am so tired, of race being the crutch for everything. It's almost like rats that go back and forth to the bottles holding liquid cocaine. They go there before they go to the food. It's ridiculous! Can we please move on?
It was the whites who propagated slavery. It was the whites who instituted the Jim Crowe laws. It was the whites. But seriously, all of the comments that pinpoint racism are- reverse racism to the truest definition.
Clearly there is a historical basis for blaming America's racist history on white folks, but achieving a truly post-racial society requires that we resist the temptation to think the way most of you think.
Take a look around any College campus and you are bound to see posters for the Asian Students Association, the Latin American Students Organization, and the African-American society. Absent from this collection of race-based assemblies is a White American Students Organization. Even the thought of such a group seems laughable, and even racist. But why?
This idea is ridiculous because any group which is predicated on racial divisions is itself racist.
I understand the old argument that the pendulum must swing both ways, but racism is one instance where society cannot fight fire with fire.
Where will it stop?? I am so sick of this crutch.
I suspect if the attitude distilled in the minds of this current generation of "Life owes me something" instead of "Life has no guarantees, and you make your way" continues to the next generation (god forbid gets worse) this will never stop. It calls to mind the question, is an equal society truly what everyone wants? Seems to me the pendulum is swinging a little heavier to one side.
I am just going to say it- the ideas you are planting in your childrens heads that the white people are against all of us and we are oppressed is actually opressing you further- and I know several GOOD African American friends that agree with me. I don't judge you on your skin color,and neither does 90% of this country. Not anymore. The other 10%? The hell with em.
Jax, I did read your post and some of your other posts on other things and you do seem to be a left supporter. Once again, you may not realize it because some of you lefties don't have a clue.
WOW . . . I really don't know what to say. For so long I have been labeled a right winger or a conservative or a Bush supporter on here and now you come along and call me a "leftie". I guess that must mean I am truly in the middle when both sides accuse me of being on the opposing side. LOL!
To be honest, I think I have a better clue than you or anyone that exists on the far right or left wing of any party. While I do not support Obama (my many posts on that will prove that and many posters such as darrick_04 will same the same), I also have the common sense to see that the issue with President Obama talking to school children about staying in school and achieving their dreams is not what some make it out to be. It is just silliness run amuck! I would agree that if he was promoting some political agenda then he shouldn't be allowed to communicate it in schools but the speech turned out to be nothing of the sorts.
I suspect if the attitude distilled in the minds of this current generation of "Life owes me something" instead of "Life has no guarantees, and you make your way" continues to the next generation (god forbid gets worse) this will never stop. It calls to mind the question, is an equal society truly what everyone wants? Seems to me the pendulum is swinging a little heavier to one side.
I am just going to say it- the ideas you are planting in your childrens heads that the white people are against all of us and we are oppressed is actually opressing you further- and I know several GOOD African American friends that agree with me. I don't judge you on your skin color,and neither does 90% of this country. Not anymore. The other 10%? The hell with em.
-- Posted by corywh
Exactly right. The promotion of a "victimhood mentality" is the new racism.
Bill Cosby's "poundcake speech" is the best address on this subject I've ever heard.
http://www.eightcitiesmap.com/transcript...
Jax, you just showed how clueless you really are despite your self indulgent classification as the one being less clueless than others. Really I could just leave it at that statement but I'll give further examples of your idiocy.
"I also have the common sense to see that the issue with President Obama talking to school children about staying in school and achieving their dreams is not what some make it out to be. It is just silliness run amuck! I would agree that if he was promoting some political agenda then he shouldn't be allowed to communicate it in schools but the speech turned out to be nothing of the sorts."
1.Even though you have the mentality of a child you don't know how a child will interpret his speech.
2.If you don't think this is all part of his political agenda then think again.
3.What the speech turned out to be is not what it originated as, even the lesson plan illustrated that.
4.The speech was not even disclosed to the public until the day before it was scheduled to be delivered, although it was planned much earlier. Why wait until the last day to show the public?
5.Could it be that this admin wanted some controversy over allegedly nothing to try and push another agenda? (Obamacare)
Jax, you may think you have a clue, and that's fine please keep thinking that,but that is one of the things that makes everybody smarter than you and always will (left,middle, or right).
Jax, you may think you have a clue, and that's fine please keep thinking that,but that is one of the things that makes everybody smarter than you and always will (left,middle, or right).
-- Posted by tomjones on Wed, Sep 9, 2009, at 2:10 PM
How tall are you tomjones?
An R. Lee Ermey quote!!!
Is that a jelly doughnut in your foot locker quietmike?
I'm not 5'9" if that's what your suggesting? I believe you to be from Texas though, and I don't think your a steer nathan. Have a nice day
In all actuality she may have been correct in her conclusion after all economics and mass communications and advertising all teach us that if someone of importance mentions a specific name of a specific type of product then the sales for that product usually increase, it will be interesting to see how long it takes for the xbox ads for the sale of their product and what their "sale price" may be to actually begin appearing in our mailboxes and across the tv screens where Obama himself has so graciously on more than one occasion proclaimed the name of the xbox and that children all across the nation spend alot of time playing, which to a child could be interpreted as I need an Xbox because the President says I'm supposed to have one.
-- Posted by corywh on Tue, Sep 8, 2009, at 12:35 PM
Hey guess what. PS3 and Xbox are now on SALE for 299.99 Looks to me as though the child who mentioned the possibility of the advertising done by Obama with his name dropping of the xbox system needs to be in honors classes too!!
Personally, I believe President Obama has bigger things to do than take vacations and talk to children.The economy is at a breaking point and his stimulus packages and bailouts are making things even worse by increasing debt: GET TO WORK OBAMA.