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GoogleAs of 3 p.m. Tuesday, 1,123 voters had already voted by early vote or by paper absentee ballot. That figure already tops the 891 who voted early for the Aug. 27 party primaries -- and there's more than a week to go. Early voting continues through Oct. 8 in the basement of the county courthouse. Hours are 8 a.m. until 4 p.m. Monday, Wednesday and Friday; 8 a.m. until 5 p.m. Tuesday and Thursday; and 9 a.m. until noon on Saturday.
Democratic nominee Ty Cobb II, Republican nominee Pat Marsh and Chris Brown, endorsed by the Constitution Party but listed on the ballot as an independent, are seeking the seat, which was made vacant when Ty Cobb's brother Curt Cobb resigned in late June.
Meanwhile, proxies for Marsh and Cobb continue to make accusations.
A direct mailing from the Tennessee Democratic Party last week accused Marsh of failing to pay taxes, saying he has had five tax liens filed against his company in three different states. Marsh responded in a newspaper ad, published today.
"First of all," states Marsh, "we are a commercial trucking company that operates in 48 states. Each state has its own tax structure -- not to mention their own city, county and local taxes. With the multitude of taxes that exist, the complexity of the tax laws, and numerous regulations, it is not uncommon that some tax bills may be overlooked. Anytime that has occurred we resolve the issue to the best of our ability. We have always been committed to paying our tax bills and always will."
Then, this week, Republican state Senators Jim Tracy of Shelbyville and Bill Ketron of Murfreesboro issued a press release denouncing the Service Employees International Union's endorsement of Cobb, saying that SEIU has close ties with the controversial Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN) and has been one of ACORN's biggest financial backers.
Long a target of conservative critics, ACORN employees were caught on videotape recently giving advice to a woman posing as a prostitute and to a man posing as her pimp about cheating on taxes and operating a brothel with underage immigrant girls. This has caused several government agencies and financial institutions to sever their ties with ACORN.
"Once again ... they resort to name-calling and ridiculous assertions, when they realize they have no real solutions," said Tennessee Democratic Party spokesman Keith Talley, who dismissed the attempt to connect Cobb to ACORN. "I know Ty wants to be a legislator to work tirelessly to create good-paying jobs in the community."
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I just wish I could figure out who I am going to vote for . . . so many negatives for each candidate.
I was not at all impressed by SEIU's backing of Cobb. I have been bombarded by e-mails from SEIU since the presidential campaign last year. They were a HUGE backer for Obama and campaigned heavily for him. I have to say, when I heard about the alleged failure of Marsh to pay his taxes, I went straight to the source. The folks at his headquarters were respectful and professional. They answered all of my questions..even those that may seem irrelevant. They took the time to listen and genuinely seemed to care about what I had to say. I find it pathetic that Cobb's camp tried to sling mud when, to date, I have not even seen such an ad put out by Marsh. Seems rather childish. Mr. Marsh has proven that he knows how to run a business, and let's face it, in these hard economic times, we need a man that knows a bit about money...how to make it AND how to save it!
I made my mind up....I am sending all negative pieces of campaign material back to the sendor!!!!
when i got the "mud slinging" campaign material in my mail box from Ty Cobb, i took my family the next day and VOTED , but not for him. If you think you cant win a vote by your experience or values but by trying to make your opponent look bad,you dont need to be running for office. apparently you not the man for the job
Yeah, that same campaign material is what made me definitely decide not to vote for Cobb but I really dont have a great feeling toward Marsh or Brown either.
The first negative ad I received was from the Republican Party. If you will notice on every negative ad (both from the Democratic & Republican Party), in small writing it says "Not endorsed by any candidate". So neither Ty Cobb or Pat Marsh are personally sending the negative ads.
In a Marsh ad he says the taxes that the court made him pay were just (OVERLOOKED) if the man cant even run his own company how does he think he can make decisions for the 62 dist?
Gosh I bet from the story we can tell who they endorse ! ! ! ! Four whole paragraphs to defend Marsh, hummmm makes you wonder where is the non partisan fair coverage going to be seen???? They say where there's smoke there's fire they say and to send out the fire trucks like this story has is very suspect. Instead of excuses why not show the tax receipts?
All the more reason to question Marsh........ I would love to see how much he has his foot in this papers business???? But then again this is a red community isn't it. Somethings need to be fixed, get out and vote folks lets get out of this good ole boy red trap we've been trapped in for way too long. The people need to be heard over big business. The working average man needs to be seen and heard instead of constantly push to back ground.
"Four whole paragraphs to defend Marsh"
I keep looking, and I keep seeing only one paragraph and it's quoting Marsh defending himself.
Our community is not red enough. These liberal leaders that we have now have got our country in such a mess that our childrens children will have a hard time digging out of it. Mr. Marsh has proven that he is a leader and has worked hard to get where he is. He can win on his character not on mud slinging ... like the liberals are famous for.
Those lib leaders you refer to are just doing their job of cleaning up after Bush.......... And on a lighter side, isn't red the color of DANGER?????
and here are the Marsh favoring 4 paragraphs,
1
A direct mailing from the Tennessee Democratic Party last week accused Marsh of failing to pay taxes, saying he has had five tax liens filed against his company in three different states. Marsh responded in a newspaper ad, published today.
ARE THE ACCUSATIONS TRUE OR NOT???
2
"First of all," states Marsh, "we are a commercial trucking company that operates in 48 states. Each state has its own tax structure -- not to mention their own city, county and local taxes. With the multitude of taxes that exist, the complexity of the tax laws, and numerous regulations, it is not uncommon that some tax bills may be overlooked. Anytime that has occurred we resolve the issue to the best of our ability. We have always been committed to paying our tax bills and always will."
WELL WERE THE ACCUSATIONS TRUE???
wOULD YOU OR I BE ABLE TO SAY THERE
ARE TOO MANY DETAILS FOR US TO KEEP
UP WITH SO WE SHOULD NOT BE HELD
ACCOUNTABLE? WE JUST OVER LOOKED SOME
THINGS. IT WAS MORE THAN HE COULD HANDLE.
IT SAYS HE SETTLED IT TO THE BEST OF
HIS ABILITY, UMMMM HE HAD TO BE HAULED INTO
COURT TO PAY THESE TAXES, IF THAT IS THE
BEST OF HIS ABILITY , AND HE SEES FIT TO
BRAG ON THAT POINT DON'T YOU THINK THAT
SHOULD BE A BIG RED FLAG --- TROUBLE AT HAND
HE CAN NOT HANDLE ANYTHING COMPLEX AND PICKS
AND CHOOSES WHAT DETAILS ARE IMPORTANT DO
YOU THINK HE HAD TO BE HAULED INTO COURT TO
COLLECT PAYMENT ON THE JOBS HE DID? BET THEY
DIDN'T HAVE REMIND HIM THERE, DO YOU THINK
HE WOULD HAVE ACCEPTED HIS EXCUSE FROM
PEOPLE WHO OWED HIM MONEY ?????
WHAT MIGHT HE "OVER LOOK" IF ELECTED?
HE JUST ADMITTED HE CAN NOT KEEP UP
WITH DETAILS AND EXPECTS TO BE GIVEN
SPECIAL CONSIDERATION WHEN HE "OVER
LOOKS" THINGS. WOULD WE BE GIVEN THE
BREAKS AND EXCEPTIONS HE THINKS HE'S
ENTITLED TO?
CAN WE SAY WE HAVE A LOT OF DETAILS
TO TEND TO AND JUST "OVER LOOKED"
OUR TAXES????
3
Then, this week, Republican state Senators Jim Tracy of Shelbyville and Bill Ketron of Murfreesboro issued a press release denouncing the Service Employees International Union's endorsement of Cobb, saying that SEIU has close ties with the controversial Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN) and has been one of ACORN's biggest financial backers.
WHAT DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH
VOTER TURN OUT IN OUR AREA??
THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE
STORY IT IS JUST HERE TO SWAY
VOTES TOWARDS MARSH IN CASE PEOPLE
DID NOT BUY HIS TAX EXCUSE
4
Long a target of conservative critics, ACORN employees were caught on videotape recently giving advice to a woman posing as a prostitute and to a man posing as her pimp about cheating on taxes and operating a brothel with underage immigrant girls. This has caused several government agencies and financial institutions to sever their ties with ACORN.
AGAIN JUST ANOTHER ATTEMPT TO SWAY
VOTES FOR MARSH, NO THING TO DO WITH
THIS DISTRICT JUST MANIPULATION TO
GET MARSH VOTES. NOT ON ANY MERIT HE
HAS TO OFFER BUT FEAR MONGERING.
TOTALLY UNRELATED TO STORY.
maybe I should have said 4 paragraphs kissing republican fanny, what does the 3RD & 4th oneS even have to do with this district? It's just fear mongering to manipulate people to vote republican, .......
WHAT I DID NOT SEE IN THIS STORY ABOUT MARSH,
(THIS WAS NOT SO MUCH ABOUT VOTEING AS IT WAS ABOUT COVERING MARSH'S BUTT,) IS ANY REASON TO VOTE FOR MARSH, WHAT DOES HE HAVE TO OFFER? WHAT CAN HE DO FOR US ( OTHER THAN BE TOO BUSY FOR DETAILS), I SEE NO POSITIVE FACTS ON HIS ABILITIES OR QUALIFICATIONS.
IT WAS JUST ANOTHER AD FOR MARSH .... A BACK HANDED ATTEMPT TO MANIPULATE THE PUBLIC,
He could have presented proof that Ty lied, showed receipts and court records perhaps, perhaps not. Instead just excuses......
"Four whole paragraphs to defend Marsh"
I keep looking, and I keep seeing only one paragraph and it's quoting Marsh defending himself.
-- Posted by MotherMayhem on Wed, Sep 30, 2009, at 3:36 PM
you mean making excuses.................oh to many different details to keep track of, bla bla bla
I'm sorry, I just feel that we need to get out of the rut of Republicans and Democrats. We need to start thinking about what is in our future and right now, that is not much. We owe so much money and all they keep doing is digging it deeper. I want to be able to say that I made a stand and did what I felt God was leading me to do and that is voting for the one who puts God first and foremost, not just the man but the whole system of the matter. I'm going against the ones that have been put in my face all my life and going Constitution. God is what this nation is based on and I feel we are slowing putting Him in a corner somewhere hoping He will forgive us. Well, guess what people, we can't do as Judas did and not expect Him to rise again, just as He did then. God sent His son for us and all we do to repay Him is turn our backs and let our nation be overtaken by people who care nothing about us, just the control and that is what the Democrats and Republicans are doing. I plan to vote and I feel I am voting for whom God intends for me to. My God is an awesome God and He will Reign FOREVER!!!
OVERLOOKED taxes doesn't begin to mean "the man can't even run his own company." as was claimed by tinytoes.
Pat's company has existed for quite a few years, so it has obviously been "run." There is of course a management team in place, but much of the running has been done by Pat himself. A multi-state operation presents some challenges, and keeping track of the myriad of taxes is one of them. "Running" a successful trucking operation is more challenging than constructing petty criticism.. The list of small and big trucking companies that have closed or been absorbed is lengthy. I don't have to tell you what this tells you!
There may have been some instances of OVERLOOKED taxes; however, Marsh's organization has certainly not OVERLOOKED paying employees regularly with good checks. He has not OVERLOOKED involvement in civic and charitable affairs. He has not OVERLOOKED injecting considerable money into the Bedford County economy.
Please don't be disappointed when the 62nd District benefits from his representation.
bellbucklebobb,
I honestly doubt Marsh intentionally forgot to pay taxes, but it just makes me wonder if you were part of the same crowd calling Obama a crook because some of his appointees had the exact same issue?
Let me get this straight. The choice is between an actual working man and a corporate big wig? Isn't that a no-brainer? It's about time we had some people who knows what it's like to work for a living representing us. GO TY COBB!!!
Yeah, a real working man. Hummmm, yeah, he works, but he's also Union. Can you say, easy hard working job, that's job is protected? I believe they all work, not a doubt in my mind. You have a Union working UPS driver, a corporate owner, who has worked his way up. Then you have the truck driver, who has owned his own truck, that loads and unloads, has to run a log book, stays away from home for weeks at a time and has missed his kids growing up, because he has had to work hard for a living. Which is the one that doen't know what it's like to work for a living? The question is not the working, it's the way they believe and how hard they are going to work to do what is good for the people. I believe we need a person who is going to stick to his guns and not back down to the BIG Parties. It's time there is something different in this place. It's time to vote third party.
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what office did this person run for in Bedford,or any other co.in Tenn.
bellbucklebob: The courts ORDERED Mr Marsh to pay his taxes,WHY did it go to court? because it has not been paid after several attempts to collect.Mr Marsh was given plenty of notice that these taxes were due,overdue,late,and then it goes to court where a judge said PAY YOUR TAXES.this was not just something that was overlooked that statement is pure Bull$hit! He has got caught and is trying to make an excuse for NOT PAYING HIS TAXES!
Democratic Operative Mark Brown explains why the Republican candidate in a special state house election is not very eager to debate the Constitution Party candidate in the race one-on-one:
Marsh's actions tell us his campaign has internal polling that shows him losing the election. That polling also shows he has a weak spot on his right, which is why he didn't want Brown participating in a debate. He wanted to be the only "right-wing" candidate on the stage. Debating Brown one-on-one would be a total loss for Marsh because taking part in a one-on-one debate with him would be an admission of the severity of Marsh's weakness on the right.
what is this about
bellbuckelbob, here you go making excuses for Marsh, if they were simple over sights he would have just paid them, instead he had to be hauled into court and forced to do so. That is not a good thing. And of course he did all the necessary things to run for office, like ""involvement in civic and charitable affairs. He has not OVERLOOKED injecting considerable money into the Bedford County economy."" You must grease the right wheels if you want to get any where. He had to do that kind of stuff for his political gain. Seems he knew just what he could and could not get away with over looking. Those out of state choices of over looking details (taxes) bit him in the butt..... He needed the employees to get the work done, he wasn't getting anything out of paying taxes in states, he did not think would catch up to him.then mind you when they did catch up he still had to be taken to court and forced to pay them. I still haven't heard if did as of yet get them all paid, have you???? He has not offered any proof of that has he ? The point is he admits to being derelict ( oops over looking)of his responsibilities, there are court cases to prove it, he thinks he should not be held accountable because he did the best he could considering all the details involved ---- ahhh what if he gets elected and there are to many details, who is he going to neglect???
and still no one offers good legitimate reason why he should be considered qualified for the position.....just excuses why he should not be accountable for his actions.
And sawyer, just because someone is union does not mean they do not work hard, you listen to too much right wing big business manipulators that want unions out so they can go back to the days when they had the iron hand and workers had no rights and even less pay.Do what your told, as long as your told for who ever tells you , no matter what is and like it or your fired. Which is exactly what will happen if unions are run out, there will be no one for workers rights and protection, only lobbyist for big corps who will spend big money to eliminate all worker protection. But that's a whole other issue I doubt you would care to try and comprehend.
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6 Comments
Donating To Democrats : Post Politics: Political News and Views in Tennessee
09/18/2009 at 9:56 am
[...] CHASER » Marsh Pays to Play?Posted 55 minutes [...]
Bill Hobbs
09/18/2009 at 12:59 pm
So, what you're saying here, is two DEMOCRATS on the PSC were influenced by cash gifts? You are accusing Frank Cochran and Steve Hewlett of trading their vote for campaign cash?
Gilgamark
09/18/2009 at 1:19 pm
Read it however you like.
B-Ho is a Douche
09/18/2009 at 6:41 pm
Go draw a cartoon about Muslims, B-Ho, you
Truth : Post Politics: Political News and Views in Tennessee
09/18/2009 at 7:17 pm
[...] CHASER » Marsh Pays to Play?Posted 10 hours [...]
» Amen, Brutha, Amen NO CHASER
09/18/2009 at 7:41 pm
[...] Amen, Brutha, Amen Jump to Comments Tom Humphrey, dean of the Capitol Hill press corps, notes it is "interesting to remember the time when newspapers could run such a long and relatively detailed article" in reference to his piece about Pat Marsh, political contributions, and a statewide trucking license. [...]
lets get real...I thing the point was ....cobb is not the only working man ..cobb is not the god of working men ...he comes from money ...its ok tobe in the union if you don't have the gonads to speak for your self .The union tells cobb what to do,and if he gets elected the party will tell him what to do ..so that shows me he can't speak for himself.OH he's already proved that ..
I think Brown,Cobb,Marsh are qualified for the position .They are the ones we are voteing for .No one else .....
SAVE AMERICAS FREEDOM VOTE REPUBLICAN. VOTE MARSH..' YOU LOVE OBAMA AND CONTROL' THEN VOTE COBB..TAX ON EVERYTHING..VOTE COBB..VOTE FOR MARXISM THEN VOTE COBB..THIS WILL BE THE MOST POWERFUL VOTE IN THE TN. HOUSE(SWING VOTE)..WAKE UP THIS IS A NO BRAINER..VOTE REPUBLICAN AND SAVE YOUR RIGHTS.
backatya, 1st off with out a union if you speak up for yourself against big business your butt gets fired, your hours get cut, yours pay gets reduced, management is free to harass you all they want - your work against theirs, if you get hurt on the job your get stuck in litigation while you lose everything you have worked for because they block any workman's comp you have coming. They will silence you. Now yes there are laws, but it take time to have them enforced they have the money to drag it out till you can not afford to fight it any longer. Once the unions are gone - the big business lobbyist will do their magic and as soon as they can they will have those laws repealed. One person against a corporation, no matter how loud they speak up for themselves is rarely heard, they as just shuffled and silenced. It is in the power of numbers and unity that the average man with out the money to fight the well funded lobbyist can be heard.
And that was only one paragraph, still no answer for the tax evasion and Marsh's silly excuse of there being too many detail to keep up with, so he should not be held accountable.. And not one good reason why Marsh should be considered as qualified.
good gracious............ your choices are a man that owns a trucking company , a man that drove a UPS truck and a man no one knows much about.... sounds perfect. Why do people feel like they have to dig up your past ? its a bunch of political garbage & that no matter who wins , EVERYBODY will forget about all the above
It is funny that the Democratic mailing about March's supposed tax evasion failed to mention that this occurred about sixteen years ago which is about around the same time his business opened up if I am not right. Anyone with any business knowledge would know that the first few years of opening and maintaining a business can be rough and making ends meet can be hard. Has anyone looked this up to see if there is a correlation between the two and if so, then I would be more impressed with him being able to take a struggling business and build it into a successful one. Does anyone know if he has had any tax liens placed against him the past few years?
All I can say at this point is that unlike Ty Cobb, Pat Marsh has stood in front of constituents to answer questions several times about his record and on important issues facing the district and state. I can not say the same for Cobb and his campaign . . . seems he is too busy getting buckets of money at fundraisers with Bredesen.
There are just too many unanswered questions about all the candidates at this time . . .
READ MY LIPS PAY YOUR TAXES LIKE EVERYONE ELSE DOES!!!!!
Dont Vote Yet folks I think alot more news is about to come out that may change your vote...I think some people (AS RICKY SAYS TO LUCY)will have SOME EXPLAINING TO DO!