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Firefighter accused of off-duty attack

Thursday, October 8, 2009

A Shelbyville fireman has been suspended from his job and was expected to be fired this morning following his arrest on Wednesday, city officials said.

John Randall Sullivan, 35, of Tyler Drive was charged with aggravated domestic assault and vandalism and was released under $30,000 bond following his arrest by Bedford County deputy Kevin Holton.

City recorder Betty Lamb said Wednesday that Sullivan has been suspended from his job without pay pending an investigation and faced a pre-termination hearing this morning.

According to a letter from city manager Ed Craig to Sullivan, "based on your most recent arrest for domestic violence and vandalism, I intend to terminate your employment with the City of Shelbyville ..."

The pre-termination meeting took place at 9 this morning in Craig's office.

According to arrest reports filed in Bedford County General Sessions court this morning, the victim had "visible bruising, blood and marks on her face."

During the alleged assault, Sullivan reportedly grabbed the victim by the throat, choked her and threw her against a door. The woman was transported to Heritage Medical Center due to her injuries.

Also, a home alarm system was destroyed, as well as the victim's home phone and her vehicle was also "keyed" on both sides and the hood, the arrest warrant for vandalism reads.

According to Sullivan's intake sheet from the Bedford County jail, he has had eight prior bookings. He will appear in Bedford County General Sessions Court Wednesday at 9 a.m.


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I went to high school with this guy and had no clue he was like this . . . sad situation to say the least. I hope the victim will be ok and that Sullivan is punished in a way that will make him learn from his mistakes and deal with his issues.

-- Posted by jaxspike on Thu, Oct 8, 2009, at 9:08 AM

Jaxspike just so you know I was not confusing two people. I knew exactly who committed the crime and I knew his father had worked for the fire department which probably helped him get a job and probably getting him rehired.

-- Posted by greeneyes on Thu, Oct 8, 2009, at 9:13 AM

Is now the time to ask why the man charged with cooking meth is still working everyday at the county highway garage? His arrest was front page news in the T-G a couple of months ago. No suspension, still working every day.

-- Posted by justwanaknow on Thu, Oct 8, 2009, at 9:19 AM

Just out of curiousity.........did John only lose his CDL or his license completely from the prior DUI(s?) I am just wondering since he operates a car detailing business that would involve picking up customer's cars.

-- Posted by titansfan on Thu, Oct 8, 2009, at 9:39 AM

I have a question and if anyone with true knowledge of the answer could reply, that would be great. Are police reports, arrest warrants, jail intake documents, etc. legally a matter of Public Record? I know officers and deputies freely share information with civilians on issues that they handle, but is that legal? Are there no privacy laws restricting what these officers can share with other individuals? If not, does that mean that I could call the police dept at any time and ask for information contained in any report? I was just wondering...

-- Posted by onenamil on Thu, Oct 8, 2009, at 9:39 AM

I know what he did was wrong, but there are 2 sides 2 every story. Why kick him when he's down? Why not try to help him with his obvious anger issues and make him go somewhere 2 get help with his problem? I've known him for years, both personally and businesswise, and I've never had any problems with him, he's actually been a great friend and confidante when I've needed one. He's a good man, that needs help. What if we all lost our careers for some of the things we've done? Nobody would b working! And yes, I'm a woman, and I've never feared him @ all. Just maybe, make it mandatory that he gets the help that he needs and maybe get revaluated every 6 months or so.

-- Posted by lips on Thu, Oct 8, 2009, at 9:46 AM

I agree with lips he needs help dealing with his anger issues. I don't understand how his personal life will terminate his employment. I could see if he is convicted of a felony but I am not reading that he has been charged with felony assault. I suggest he is placed on leave to receive therapy and maybe put on job probation.

Am I the only one who takes issue with the comment in the article, "I intend to terminate your employment with the City of Shelbyville ..."? Ed Craig wouldn't terminate a person who was alledgely using the city's computer to view unscrupulous Internet sites; but he is going to say "I" am going to terminate you? No Craig you are the one who deserves to be terminated not John. Oh that is right you ARE going to be terminated tonight at the City Council meeting.

Hang in there John and get the help you need.

-- Posted by what??? on Thu, Oct 8, 2009, at 10:22 AM

If this was you're daughter/sister/family member that he assualted what would you do?

-- Posted by mathman on Thu, Oct 8, 2009, at 10:26 AM

He doesn't need help...he needs a beating. This isn't his first time doing this, he doesn't deserve another chance.

-- Posted by mathman on Thu, Oct 8, 2009, at 10:28 AM

Ok mathman, if this was my daughter/sister/family member, I would take care of her and pray for John 2 get the help he needs in hopes that one day he can have a healthy relationship that doesn't involve violence. People can change, u know, with the right kind of help and support. Maybe if he'd received the right kind of help in the first place, history wouldn't have repeated itself.

John, just know u have some people in your corner, that believe n u.

-- Posted by lips on Thu, Oct 8, 2009, at 10:51 AM

Lips

The reason you feel safe around him may be because he isn't attracted to you. The women he dates or wants to date are the ones at risk. You can't be helped if you are not willing to change, after beating up at least 3 women I think he has shown his true nature. What about the women who work at the fire department with him? It is not fair to put them in an uncomfortable situation. If it were my son who did this I would want him punished just like anyone else. He BEAT a woman that is a crime and he should do jail time--not hold his hand and sweep all this under the carpet. Yes we can pray for him, but he still needs to be punished. Oh, by the way have you said a pray for the young women he terrorized? (just wondering) She may never feel safe in her home again.

-- Posted by greeneyes on Thu, Oct 8, 2009, at 11:03 AM

NOTE to the t-g: How about reporting on the results of the "eight prior bookings." Isn't that what is called investigative reporting or responsible journalism? Why don't you admit that you read the blogs to come up with stories to write? And then why delete that blog?

-- Posted by what??? on Thu, Oct 8, 2009, at 11:30 AM
Response by John Carney:
Brian's source for this story was not a blog or story comment. He is, in fact, working on a followup story. You say you want "investigative reporting." By definition, that takes time. Any news reporter wants to get his or her story out in a timely fashion -- but it's more important to be right than to be first.

The comments I deleted were deleted because, at that time, we hadn't documented what was going on, which made those comments potentially defammatory.

I think Lips should just babysit this 35 year-old drunken, abusive, controlling sorry excuse of a man 24 hours a day 7 days a week. It seems like she is advertising for the job! Maybe during this time she will get a reality check and decide for herself it's time that HE deserves more than a slap on the hand by serving time and paying for some of these despicable crimes. On the subject of your behavior effecting job status, most employment applications ask the question "have you ever been convicted of a crime?". With eight documented bookings, has he ever actually been convicted or pled guilty to any of the crimes? That is the really sad part. People like this keep getting arrested,sleep it off in jail for a few hours, they pay a little fine and go on their merry way back to their jobs, their sympathetic friends and doting families to hit again. No punishment, no consequences, no lesson learned. Maybe it's time to start teaching him a lesson through punishment and consequences he sure doesn't mind dishing out the punishment to others! I dare anyone to mention "two sides" to every story, No matter what led up to this no woman deserves to be beaten by a man twice her size for any reason let alone have her personal property destroyed in a drunken rage!

-- Posted by writeattitude on Thu, Oct 8, 2009, at 11:42 AM

I can not believe you people are defending this guy!!! He BEAT her!!! I don't need to hear the "other side of the story". It means nothing!!! What could the other side be that would warrant a beating???

-- Posted by soma on Thu, Oct 8, 2009, at 11:45 AM

This guy has had anger management issues since he was a child. I'm certainly not surprised at this. This is a case of a guy getting everything he wanted all his life and when he doesn't he throws a temper tantrum like a child. Maybe a little prison time would make him grow up. John, meet Big Bubba. He's your girlfriend, now. Beat HIM up!

-- Posted by Jack Bauer on Thu, Oct 8, 2009, at 12:01 PM

He needs to go directly to jail, she needs counseling and there needs to be a divorce. If she allows him to return, she's just granting him permission to give her another beating.

How could this individual have all these prior convictions and still be employed by our fire department? Now that's a story worthy of further investigation.

-- Posted by Tattoos & Scars on Thu, Oct 8, 2009, at 12:18 PM

Tattoos & Scars,

"How could this individual have all these prior convictions and still be employed by our fire department? Now that's a story worthy of further investigation."

What convictions? The T-G only mentioned eight prior bookings. And there is no detail of what crime may have been associated with these BOOKINGS.

Get it tattoos....bookings not convictions.

-- Posted by what??? on Thu, Oct 8, 2009, at 12:25 PM

Whatever the other side of this story may be, it would not make it okay for this man to beat up on this woman. Period. He lost control, plain and simple. He could have walked away, but HE made the choice to physically attack her.

For that, he should incur the punishment. Whether it be jail time or the loss of his job(s). I also feel that he should be required to seek professional help for his issues.

People can change, but THEY have to WANT TO.

-- Posted by onenamil on Thu, Oct 8, 2009, at 12:26 PM

How in the hell can anyone address the issue of there are two sides to every story. There is no reason in the world for a supposedly MAN to put his hands on a woman.

With 8 pryor arrests, that should tell you the story, period. I can see if it was only one pryor arrest, but not 8 for someone to say get him help. But this is an domestic violence arrest and yes that will follow him the rest of his life, as it should. I agree with you Tattoos and Scars, if she lets him back in she likes the treatmet he gives her.

I hear you Jack Bauer, let him meet BIG JOHN, he will be speaking out of the other side of his mouth when he is done with him.

And Moral Monkey, sounds like you two have something in common if you condon this type of behavior from him!!!!

-- Posted by g-money on Thu, Oct 8, 2009, at 12:37 PM

Ok, greeneyes and write attitude, I didn't say what kind of relationship we had, so u really don't know what u r talking about. And he's been in a place, where he could've hurt me, but controlled himself. He does need help, and I AGREE, maybe if it hadn't been swept under the carpet b4, he may have received the help he needs. All, I'm saying is we r all broken n one way or another, some worse than others, but y should this town eat him alive? He DOES have a heart 2, and ALSO, I was in a very abusive relationship myself, and he helped me thru it and helped me heal, I'm just saying let's help him and not stand here, like hypocrites casting stones. I AM surprised that this happened again, but I'm sure I'm not the only one that knows him that will stand by him, and YES I have prayed 4 all involved. Nuf said. Move on!

-- Posted by lips on Thu, Oct 8, 2009, at 1:10 PM

she should pick up something and laid him out with it. she wouldve went to jail too... but atleast he would know she isnt going to let a man beat her up. i dont understand why men act that way, he may be sick... but he needs a good beat down from a woman. that help his sickness.

-- Posted by mrs.v.raney on Thu, Oct 8, 2009, at 1:11 PM

I agree with Moral Monkey.There's more space dedicated to attacking other posters than to the issues at hand. OOPS....I left MYSELF open to more rock throwing!

-- Posted by frankimstein on Thu, Oct 8, 2009, at 1:14 PM

They were not married and from what was told to me she was not/had not been dating him. I am wondering why the charge for "domestic assault". If all she had done was turn him down- how is that a domestic case?

-- Posted by champ08 on Thu, Oct 8, 2009, at 1:19 PM

Moral Monkey

I think the real cowards are grown men who beat up on frail women and also anyone who defends it to have the audacity to attach the word moral anywhere on their name. Oh, by the way, I didn't catch your real name either! TG printed the story, straight from the public records at the Sheriff's office, so where is the defamation of character? This jerk defamed his own character, not the eighth time but the FIRST time he ever laid a hand on a woman. I think he should be locked up in a women's prison with some of the hardened criminals there, bet he could get reformed there in a hurry!

-- Posted by writeattitude on Thu, Oct 8, 2009, at 1:29 PM

I thank John is a sorry excuse for a man. Always has been, always will be!! This is not his first rodeo but i'm sure someone will try to get him out of this just like all the other times. He should have been fired from his job along time ago. I thank he needs to be put under the jail and I hope BIG BUBBA finds him and gives him what he deserves!

-- Posted by blondieblue on Thu, Oct 8, 2009, at 1:34 PM

He is NOT married to this lady. This was HER house. He got mad and came to HER home uninvited to beat the tar out of her because he got mad and went crazy! And it doesn't matter what the "other" side of the story is, NO MAN SHOULD EVER PUT THEIR HANDS ON A WOMAN IN A FIT OF RAGE!!!! This lady is very small and petite and dang lucky he didn't kill her! Has anyone thought about how scared she is to go home now?!?!? Yes he definatley needs help, but you have to want to be helped and admit you have a problem before help can be given, and he apparently doesn't think he has a problem! So how can he be helped? To my knowledge he was court ordered to take anger management in the past, but I guess he must have ditched the class or slept through the part about hitting women! And no this is not the 1st or 2nd time this has happened. He has done this to many different woman that he has had relationships with. And yes he treats lady friends very different than people that he is involved with, so that is why you haven't seen "that" side of him. And he sure isn't going to act that way while he is at his place of business. People are different behind closed doors!!!

And yes, the jail intake is public record, anyone who reads the paper can see who got arrested and for what they got arrested for! And I'm sure the officers are not suppose to discuss this with the public, however if you act foolish and do something worth getting arrested for, that's your own fault. If you behave yourself, then you won't have to worry about people talking about what you got arrested for!

-- Posted by lilredfireball on Thu, Oct 8, 2009, at 1:41 PM

Lips

Just curious does your blog name stand for lacking intelligence and possibly stupid. You stated he could have hurt you, but controlled himself. Where was that self control when he broke in the house of someone he knew, destroyed her property, choked her and blacked her eyes. You seem to have a history of having a fatal attraction to men who abuse women.

-- Posted by greeneyes on Thu, Oct 8, 2009, at 1:41 PM

So who alledgely was using the city's computer to view unscrupulous Internet sites? And what kind of sites were they? AAnd do they still work there and if so why?

-- Posted by Onemore on Thu, Oct 8, 2009, at 2:23 PM

Haha good one, greeneyed monster. And no I dont have a fatal attraction to abusers, I just believe in helping others when they r down, when u and the rest of this bunch on here are ready 2 go all cowboy on him and string him up on the square. He will pay 4 what he did, and I am SO not condoning what he did, just would like 2 see someone get the help they need.

-- Posted by lips on Thu, Oct 8, 2009, at 2:28 PM

And oh yeah, what about the pervert on the city's computer. Guess that's ok, huh?

-- Posted by lips on Thu, Oct 8, 2009, at 2:29 PM

And yes, the jail intake is public record, anyone who reads the paper can see who got arrested and for what they got arrested for! And I'm sure the officers are not suppose to discuss this with the public, however if you act foolish and do something worth getting arrested for, that's your own fault. If you behave yourself, then you won't have to worry about people talking about what you got arrested for!

-- Posted by lilredfireball

I understand that info is public, but I am referring to "victims" and info pertaining to them. Like details of accident reports and such.

-- Posted by onenamil on Thu, Oct 8, 2009, at 2:32 PM

Lips

I don't think the women he were looking at ended up black and blue. But, no I don't think what he did is right and he was fired for his offense. Sullivan could have got help long ago--guess what abusers don't change. It's all about control for them, I say let Big Bubba make him his girl in the pen and then he will really see the damage he has done.

-- Posted by greeneyes on Thu, Oct 8, 2009, at 3:00 PM

I went to school with John and would have never thought he would have been this type of person. If it had of been my daughter he had done this to, he would have been glad to be in jail by the time I got through with him. There is No excuse to be made! When you lay your hand on someone "whether it be man or woman" in a fit of rage, be prepared to pay for it. I do hope he gets help. I also hope the people who have helped him to get out of all the other times realize they are not doing him any good!

-- Posted by For the kids on Thu, Oct 8, 2009, at 3:05 PM

Greeneyes,

I'm thru 4 the day, I have a life. Mayb the rest of u can c if u can have one and quit bein the judge and jury.

-- Posted by lips on Thu, Oct 8, 2009, at 3:07 PM

I know they lady John did this to, she in no way deserved this. It does not matter what she may or may not have done to him he should not have put his hands on her!!!! And yes he does deserve to loose his job. Did he not learn when he was a child to keep his hands to himself? Maybe Bubba can throw him around like a rag doll a few times and see how he likes that. Sorry John, I always thought better of you than this but have lost all respect for you.

-- Posted by steelerfan743 on Thu, Oct 8, 2009, at 3:11 PM

I understand one employee that admitted to having porn on the city computer was fired after a complaint was made to several members of the city council,and I say again ONLY AFTER the city council was notified.Several other complaints have been brought to the city councils attention that involve dirty email being sent to and from a city owned comp by a dept head,however the council did not know of this at the time and as of yet the invistigation goes on as to why Mr Craig did not fire the other city empolyee.As for the fireman Mr Craig should have fired him along time ago but this is the good old boy system at work,now Me Craig will have to answer for all these "overlooked" issues. and I understand the council has been aware of several more complaints by both citizens and employees (currant and former)that wre swept under the rug..this is going to get real interisting.

-- Posted by tinytoes on Thu, Oct 8, 2009, at 3:15 PM

John, yes i will call him by his first name, because by now everybody knows who he is. he makes it real hard for true gentlemen to meet good honest women like this lady, because i do know her and her family. because of this she might have a hard time letting someone get close and treat her right. i believe that john is a burden to our society, just as much as a theif, rapist, or murder. In baseball a player has 3 strikes and he is out, guess what your out. My only hope is that she doesn't look at ever guy for now on and see him. You are not much of a man if you ask me.

-- Posted by shelbyvillecitizen221 on Thu, Oct 8, 2009, at 3:21 PM

Moral Monkey,

I don't know what more we need to know. He beat the crap out of this girl. End of discussion.

-- Posted by mathman on Thu, Oct 8, 2009, at 4:04 PM

It seems to me moral monkey and lips should get together. He wants to shut his eyes to what goes on behind closed doors and she wants to defend it.

A true match made in heaven.

-- Posted by greeneyes on Thu, Oct 8, 2009, at 4:19 PM

If the Times Gazette would just start selling the rocks they let cowards throw at people on here from the bushes they would not have to worry about generating these "click ons" here to stay in business.

-- Posted by Moral Monkey on Thu, Oct 8, 2009, at 11:47 AM

...the untimely seating of the jury and judge on here and the allowance of hearsay at his trial here in the Circuit Clown Court of Times Gazette.

-- Posted by Moral Monkey on Thu, Oct 8, 2009, at 4:17 PM

Moral Monkey - sounds to me like you have the "if you can't beat 'em, join 'em" attitude!

If you don't like the comment feature of this website, then why are you still posting comments???

-- Posted by onenamil on Thu, Oct 8, 2009, at 4:40 PM

You just stood there and let him do all this to her?

Why didn't you try to help her?

-- Posted by Moral Monkey on Thu, Oct 8, 2009, at 4:35 PM

I didn't have to be there, I know the person it happened to. Why would they lie about something like this?!?!!? I also know him well and know other incidents like this that have happened to other women!!

As far as morals, you apparently have yours confused! Maybe he should come beat you black and blue and then we could see how you feel!

-- Posted by lilredfireball on Thu, Oct 8, 2009, at 4:42 PM

Regarding the gifted blogger who claimed that the T-G permits irresponsible blogs or news because of advertising, the blogger has hit rock bottom and is starting to dig. Blogs give all of us an opportunity to present different viewpoints. Advertising is a necessary revenue stream that supports an informative community newspaper. It is hypocritical to criticize a newspaper and then use one of its benefits (blogs).

-- Posted by bellbucklebob on Thu, Oct 8, 2009, at 4:42 PM

Right Moral Monkey, this was all made up by the public/police dept./bloggers and this horrible woman to make poor 'ole John look bad. Get a grip.

-- Posted by mathman on Thu, Oct 8, 2009, at 4:48 PM

I have tried to not comment on this story; however it seems as though a couple of you are very ignorant. Does it matter who witnessed this act of violence? No. Are there two sides of every story? Yes, but that it no way justifies John Sullivan's actions. There are not however two sides to the FACTS of what has happened. Clearly, yet again he has beaten another woman. It does not matter why he did this; the fact is that he did. I don't care how many of you say 'innocent until proven guilty'. It was not questioned whether or not he was the culprit, he was arrested for the crime. There is clearly no innocence here for she was hospitalized from the incident. I myself have seen this side of him on numerous occasions in the past (I was not the victim, just happened to be present) and know that it is a very scary sight.

Granted John would not be getting this much publicity had the city of Shelbyville taken care of this the first or maybe even second time it happened, but that was not the case. Thanks to small town politics he has had 8 prior bookings to this one that have slipped through the cracks, whether it were numerous DUI's or assaults. I know for a fact of several times his court dates were continued until eventually dropped. I pray that the family of this lady and previous families that have had to deal with his crazy acts of violence, that for once, small town politics fail in his favor.

-- Posted by xenophobic on Thu, Oct 8, 2009, at 4:58 PM

Evil Monkey

I hope this never happens to anyone you love! But, if it does I hope people do not defend the person who beat them up like you are defending John. No I didn't see it but I have heard from her mom that she is beat pretty bad. She did't make up the bruises and black eyes. She did accuse him, but he DID hit her. Is that somehow defendable to you?

-- Posted by greeneyes on Thu, Oct 8, 2009, at 5:03 PM

John Sullivan should be PROSECUTED and FIRED! You people condoning 8 yes that's right 8,8,8,8 TIMES ARRESTED and still is a PUBLIC servant are a laughing joke and should have your own a** whipped by someone for even feeling that way! Why wasn't he already fired? I guess it points at the Fire CHIEF! What does he say about BIG BAD JOHN aka: woman beater! I shouldn't have said that cause now he will be looking for my wife!

-- Posted by gettin-by on Thu, Oct 8, 2009, at 5:11 PM

for justwannaknow What does one have to do with the other and just what is you problem

Have you never messed up and made a mistake and you are innocent til proved guilted

-- Posted by JUSTWONDERING001 on Thu, Oct 8, 2009, at 5:14 PM

Oh, the drama.

-- Posted by tatersue on Thu, Oct 8, 2009, at 5:55 PM

Green Eyes-

You are after Moral Monkey, not Evil Monkey. Poor Evil Monkey hasn't posted on this blog.

Just clearing Evil Monkey's name, not meaning to be ugly or rude.

Thanks-

-- Posted by Tammy S. Wilson on Thu, Oct 8, 2009, at 6:00 PM

There is nothing Moral about you. I know John. I also know the victim. What I can say is we live in a small town and we do not have to see the incident to know it happened. A young girl goes to the hospital with blood and bruises. Did she do it to herself? NO! I dont care if she called his mother a $2 hooker! He is a Man! excuse me boy! She is a woman that may weigh 120 soaking wet. Moral do you condone that? Do you not think that in this small town that people arent going to know the truth? Moral....better question you idiot. What if it was your mother that had been beaten that badly? Would you take up for him then? Maybe you are a woman beater? Maybe you have never had a woman in your pathetic life! Nobody knows. But the facts are a grown man beat a woman. If you continue to take up for him then God help you!

-- Posted by cascadebornandbred on Thu, Oct 8, 2009, at 7:01 PM

Um, I wasn't even home, I had witnesses at the City Council meeting so it wasn't me!

-- Posted by Evil Monkey on Thu, Oct 8, 2009, at 7:46 PM

" You can not go around hitting people because you want to!" This is what Judge Rich said to me around 1995 or 96, when I was arrested for assault. But before you jump, let me tell you what happened that got me arrested. Oh by the way...I am a woman....so read carefully, before you attack me.

My husband and I were keeping our great niece and nephew one night when their father showed up. My niece and he were divorced and she had custody of the children. He got them every other weekend and on Wednesday nights. First of all, he walked in my house without being invited. It was not his night to have them or week-end. The children were small. Maybe 3 and 5 at the time. HE went into one of his little rages because I would not let him have the kids. {per their mothers request} At this time the little boy flew to my husband and grapped him around the neck and the little girl was clinging to me. He tried to take her out of my arms, but of course I held on.

I asked him to leave several times. He in return told me he didn't have to do a (curse word) if he didn't want to. At this time I dialed 911 and ask them to remove him from our home. He had his children crying and screaming because they were scared of him. Well long story short... I managed to get him to my front door, at which time he grapped for the little girl again and then shoved me backwards. I placed the child in my husbands lap, and told him that if he didn't leave he would be sorry. He laughed at me and went to push past me again to reach for his children. At which time, I made good on my promise to him, if he didn't leave. I hauled off and slugged him upside the head and knoked him halfway out my front door.....

He at this time grabs his ear and said, "you made my ear bleed." Of course our boys in blue got ther right after it happened. Not their fault, they got there fast. They made him leave. Next morning I am awaken by a deputy sheriff. Seems he had taken a warrent out on ME for assault. Funny really. By the time I got to the door the deputy was leaving. So being the person I am, I called the sheriff's department and asked what they had been here for. The lady told me and I laughed and said, really? She asked did I want her to send him back to get me. I told her no that I needed to take a quick shower and call my husband at work to meet me there and I would be up there within the next hour. So I was finger printed, had my picture taken, but not locked up. Even they couldn't believe he had me arrested. Thus the comment at the beginning.

Judge Rich asked me if there was anything I had to say on the day we went to court. Bad mistake!! I told him, "yes sir, I regret that I hit him. But if I had known the wussy was going to have me arrested....I'd have made it worth my time and of really hurt him." That's when he told me I couldn't go around hitting people because I wanted to.

Now here's my point. My niece and this man had gotten a divorce, because of his bad temper, and because he beat her in front of the children. I had pulled him off her many times. But imagine how I felt when I walked into church on Wednesday night and everyone wanted to know what I had done. I thought it was okay for me to defend myself and my property. But, no one and I do mean no one....messes with this mama hens little chicks. I had never been arrested before, let alone finger printed and have a mug shot taken. Even the deputies at the jail house couldn't believe it. My lawyer did tell me I could turn around and sure him, but I'm a bigger person than that. The point I am trying to make is this.

No one does have a right to hit anyone else. I have never had a man lay a hand on me till that night. And I still haven't. Why?? Because I'm a country girl that knows how to take care of herself. I don't know this John from peanuts. But I can assure you, if he had touched me, he would have been sorry, because I guarantee you, I would have taken a ball bat to him. Lips & Moral Monkey, you people need to look and see this man for what he obviously truly is. Yes he does need prayer. But when you start throwing your stones at others you are just as guilty as anyone else. I have no idea who this woman was that he put in the hospital. But my heart and my prayers go out to her. I know she will never feel safe again in her own home. I was mugged one night going to a visitation at a funeral home for my friends daughter. I went to give her comfort, and she ended up having to comfort me. I had worked night shift nearly all my adult life. And I assure you that after that happened, it was a long time before I felt safe by myself at night.

Mr. Carney and I have had a lot of differences over the years on different stories, but this time I fully agree with him. Mr. Mosely could not have written his story without first checking out all his facts. These kind of stories are always going to split hairs. But everyone needs to keep an open perspective when mothing off. Most certainly in this case. I'm with some of the rest of the people on here. HE can only get help if He really wants the help. The prisons are full of men now who beat thier wives and nothing was done about it till they ended up killing them. A lot of times it is the policeman or fireman, who is stressed from their jobs, that go home and beat their wife or children. And in those cases it will not be reported because of the bond between policemen. Or so people seem to think.

You all have computers. Go online and check out the stats on men beating women, or for that matter women beating me. And how about the children who go to school everyday all of the nation, who have to hide the bruises? People need to stop and think that John may eventually end up being someone who kills someone in a moment of drunken anger. The courts need to stop giving people like him a slap on the hand and start enforcing their own laws. I promise this, if it had of been me, my brothers wouldn't have waited on the police. They would have taken care of him themselves.

Yeah we're a small town. And yes there is a lot of the good ole boy and girl crap that goes on here. You scartch my back and I'll scratch yours..... But almost all of the judges are elected. The sheriff is elected. If you don't like the way the laws around here are, then get out and register and vote the people out that you don't like. And while you're at it, let me remind everyone, THAT WE ALL HAVE THE RIGHT OF FREEDOM OF SPEECH. So if Lips & Moral Monkey can say what you want to. So can all the other people on here. And as for the screen names. I notice you have them too. And since both of you are defending this man by saying he needs prayer, then pick up YOUR Bibles and read some of God's laws about things like this. Or do you want to challenge Him too?

-- Posted by Mama52 on Thu, Oct 8, 2009, at 8:13 PM

I dont care if he is wrong or right. I have been mad too. He can walk right? Turn around and leave John. Do not beat a women. I am no judge, and i don't know what happened but I have been put in corners before but I knew to walk away. I have a daughter and if someone ever lays a hand on her, they need not worry about the law, they better worry about me.

-- Posted by jreddman on Thu, Oct 8, 2009, at 10:00 PM

Idon't know how anyone could ever defend this man beater he has numerous dui,driving on revoked,22 counts of child support violations,and all he ever hurts are Women not men because he's such a coward,you know all the publicity this has brought being on ch.2 and ch.5 news as well as loosing his job,that he should have lost a long time ago but because of the prev.mayor and city manager this was swept under the mat,well this time he's went to far torturing this woman the way he has if you have seen the damge to her face and body I no her very well she comes from a great family but to go to the extreme like he's done on the charges he has is a class c felony and I hope he gets the max which is 10 yrs.for what he's done to her,and what she will have to deal with for a very long time,to have to be in fear such as this young woman is and will be for a long time.I hope everyone who has blogs pulls the buisness from the deatil shop they own,to support her my motto is you hit em where it hurts the job,the buisness,and as we all know the old saying"What Comes Around Goes Around Twice As Hard".Please keep this family in your prayers for the many months to come and hope Mr.Sullivan gets what's been coming to him for 35 years that's long overdue and maybe when he hits the pen someone will do the beatings to him he has done to all these women.

-- Posted by rolltideroll on Thu, Oct 8, 2009, at 10:59 PM

I do hope this abusive neanderthal gets some anger management therapy, plus jail time if convicted. Even with no convictions, 8 prior arrests should have at least warranted his being dismissed from the fire department.

It's blatantly obvious that his behavior has at best been ignored, or worse, been swept under the "good ole boy" rug for quite some time. That, in itself is worthy of further investigation.

After all, two people were recently arrested and are currently under going prosecution for nothing more than throwing Cheetoes at one another. Then again, they probably aren't connected to any "good ole boys".

-- Posted by Tattoos & Scars on Thu, Oct 8, 2009, at 11:01 PM

no matter where your from, all government sucks.all the way from the president to small town cities. Vote out the trouble makers?your just going to vote in a different trouble maker.they always make up whatever they want to as time goes by just to cover themselves.government really dont care about you at all.the news reports state that john was accused and charged.he has not been tried or found guilty of anything in a court.all i see is pre-concieved thoughts on this subject.the woman and john were alone so nobody really knows what happened but them.for all you know she may have attacked him and he defended himself. please go set in court during the trial and get your facts before you convict a person. i will say there are 2 sides of this story and they have not been heard unless you know the parties involved.and both paties can lie all they want to.by the time court is in session for this matter, all kinds of lies will be made up and gossip will be spread.i went to school with john and have known him as a friend and done buisness with him too. i have known him for 30 years and he has always been a good person.sorry i dont know the woman though and cannot speak on her behalf.hang in ther john and everthing will be allright.

-- Posted by kyhhfan1 on Fri, Oct 9, 2009, at 2:36 AM

BGPJ,

PLEASE tell me YOU are kidding... Search the archives on T-G.. Top of the page put in his name and search... Starting in 2005 DUI, Violation.. List goes on and on.. You must know know him to well....

-- Posted by soma on Fri, Oct 9, 2009, at 6:57 AM

Do any of you recall a song that Charlie Rich sang back in the "70's" entitled, "No One Knows What Goes On Behind Closed Doors." If you do or you don't doesn't really matter. Like I said last night, since you have computers, learn how to use them. Look up anything on abuse and check out the facts. Have we all forgotten the preachers wife who killed her husband in another county? According to everyone that knew them, he was a good husband and father. Who would do anything for anyone. Oh lest I forget, he was a preacher too. So naturally she was the liar, because we all know preachers make good husbands and fathers right? Well frankly I have no idea. NO ONE & I MEAN NO ONE KNOWS WHAT GOES ON BEHIND CLOSED DOORS!!! I don't care if you have known John all your life or not.

Anyone can go online and get access to public records and do their own background searches, as long as you have a charge or debit card. The police can not release all the information to press until all the evidence is in. Mr. Mosley did a good job in his report, or so I think, and I don't know him from Adam. I am copying and pasting what I found when I looked up domestic violence.

National:Statistics on DomesticViolence

* A woman is battered every 9 seconds in the United States.

The Commonwealth Fund, First Comprehensive National Health Survey of American Women, July 1993.

* 1 out of every 4 U.S. women has been assaulted by an intimate partner.

U.S. Department of Justice, Full Report of the Prevalence, Incidence and Consequences of Violence Against Women, November 2000.

* Approximately one in five female high school students reports being physically and/or sexually abused by a dating

partner.

"Dating Violence Against Adolescent Girls and Associated Substance Use, Unhealthy Weight Control, Sexual Risk Behavior, Pregnancy, and Suicidality," Journal of the

American Medical Association, Vol. 286, No. 5, 2001.

* Women of all races are about equally vulnerable to violence by an intimate.

Bureau of Justice Statistics, Violence Against Women: Estimates from Redesigned Survey, August, 1995.

* The U.S. Department of Justice reported that 37% of all women who sought care in hospital emergency rooms for

violence-related injuries were injured by a current of former spouse, boyfriend or girlfriend.

Bureau of Justice Statistics, August 1997. Violence Related Injuries Treated in Hospital Emergency Departments.

* Women experience more intimate partner violence than do men. Approximately 1.3 million women and 835,000

men are physically assaulted by an intimate partner annually in the U.S.

U.S. Department of Justice, Full Report of the Prevalence, Incidence, and Consequences of Violence Against Women, 2000.

* 64.0 percent of the women who reported being raped, physically assaulted, and/or stalked since the age of 18 were

victimized by a current or former spouse, cohabitating partner, boyfriend or date.

U.S. Department of Justice, Full Report of the Prevalence, Incidence and Consequences of Violence Against Women, 2000.

* According to a report presented to the Senate Judiciary Committee, 50% of all homeless women and children in this

country are fleeing domestic violence.

Elizabeth Schneider, "Legal Reform Efforts for Battered Women: Past, Present and Future", prepared for the Ford Foundation.

* 30% of Americans say they know a woman who has been physically abused by her husband or boyfriend in the

past year.

Lieberman Research Inc., Tracking Survey conducted for The Advertising Council and the Family Violence Prevention Fund, July-- Oct., 1996.

* A child's exposure to the father abusing the mother is the strongest risk factor for transmitting violent behavior from

one generation to the next.

Report of the American Psychological Association Presidential Task Force on Violence and the Family, APA, 1996.

I've run all the links to find just these few. I don't care if the Pope walks in and beats a person, they need to be held accountable. Get off your John is a good person bandwagons and open your eyes. You people who are defending him are as pathetic as he is. Maybe if he does go to prision he will meet Big Bubba as someone else said. While you take up for him because you have know him all his life you are being just as guilty as he apparently seems to be.

-- Posted by Mama52 on Fri, Oct 9, 2009, at 7:19 AM

Just want to say that if you do not know JOHN and his past then please don't defend him. You can check his past records. That will show you a lot or better yet just go straight to his past and present victims-i feel confident they would share the abuse they experienced AT THE HANDS OF JOHN. So for all of you who are defending him just go around town and mention JOHN SULLIVAN i am confident you will get all your answers and more! He luvs being the center of attention. I truly believe this time he will get what he has deserved for many years for the abuse of his past and present victims-MORE ATTENTION THAN THE LAW WILL ALLOW....................

-- Posted by codeblue on Fri, Oct 9, 2009, at 8:41 AM

I dated John for a long time and knew him longer then that. John does have a BIG problem and YES he does need to get help and his poor momma is having to deal with how her son has turned out when by no means did she raise either one of her boys to be that away. They are good people John just has a major anger issue and drinking problem and the anger issue's don't come out until he starts drinking. His on brother can not stand to be around him when he is drinking or they fight. Get the drinking problem cleared up (which in some cases never happens) and he will be a better person. I dated John before the drinking got bad so yeah I know that loving caring side of John and I know it is still there. By no means I am taking up for him as yes he did beat up on that poor girl and I don't care who you are you never deserve that! John knows better!

-- Posted by MominDooLittle on Fri, Oct 9, 2009, at 8:53 AM

LIPS.....for your comments. I would guess that you didnt hang around long enough to get what the others got. He doesn't stay anywhere very long. When you said he helped you thru hard times well thats who he preys on with his pity party. So just consider yourself lucky or you may not be defending JOHN had it been you as you are now!

-- Posted by codeblue on Fri, Oct 9, 2009, at 8:55 AM

Moral Monkey.....maybe you need to ask around town also before you defend. Just how many chances do you think one person deserves???????????

-- Posted by codeblue on Fri, Oct 9, 2009, at 8:59 AM

Moral Monkey,

There is a law that supercedes the laws of man and that is the law of God. You being such a moral person, I'm sure you are familiar with that law because from therein are found all the requirements and standards to determine if one is truly moral. Jesus cautioned us to be aware of people around us, he used the analogy of a fruit tree. He tells us we can "judge a tree by the fruit it bears" Judgment is a practice of comparing something to a standard or set of requirments and deciding if something meets, exceeds or is lacking when compared to the standard that is set. God set standards which we call the Ten Commandments. Society sets standards and we call them the Laws of the Land. Based on any comparison set either by God's law or Man's Law a person, thing or an idea can be accepted or rejected by anyone. Based on both of these laws, I personally have discerned that the "fruit" John has exhibited is not up to standards set by either law. He is seriously deficient. I did not witness first hand the crime, so no, I cannot help "condemn" him in a court of law. I do know there is a victim, she can identify her assailant, there is physical evidence of the damage done both to her person and her personal property as recorded and documented by law officers so based on the evidence and the reputations of both parties involved I personally have rejected his actions and chosen to believe her. I am entitled and even admonished by Christ to make personal discernments based on truth, so that I have done and I have expressed my "opinion". I have not "tried, and convicted" John as you assume, I await that decision by a court of law. My opinion and those of others on this blog can only serve to reinforce the assumed standards that we accept or reject as a society. It seems that the majority of the people have determined that his actions do not meet society's standard as noted in their comments. I, for one, am encouraged to know there are still those who would stand up and defend a victim over a criminal and that this city's moral standards are being upheld through the voices of these bloggers.

-- Posted by writeattitude on Fri, Oct 9, 2009, at 9:13 AM

I remember a story from about 17-18 years ago about an individual with a known history of beating women. As the story goes, he called her (while intoxicated of course) at her place of employment and told her that he was going to come down there and beat her a** again. Well she waited, and sure enough, here the woman beater comes, big ole fists ready to deliver this poor woman yet another beating. Well, this time was the last time. She pulled a pistol and drilled him straight through the heart. He was dead before he hit the porch. Now he got exactly what he had been asking for for years. The woman in question never served a day in jail and she hasn't been beaten by any man since then. This is a true story and most people that were around back then know exactly who I'm referring to. He had a prolific history as a woman beater. This time he beat the wrong one.

-- Posted by Tattoos & Scars on Fri, Oct 9, 2009, at 9:22 AM

Plain and simple. Any man that would hit a woman is a sick coward. He may need help but the first obligation of society is to remove the threat and concentrate of help for the victim.

-- Posted by Black Swan on Fri, Oct 9, 2009, at 9:31 AM

Amen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thank you Tatoo and Scars for you have put on here!Yes He did beat the wrong one this time and theres a big price to pay!

-- Posted by rolltideroll on Fri, Oct 9, 2009, at 9:49 AM

I hope John gets the help he obviously needs.

I pray for this young lady and her family.

-- Posted by sunshine4 on Fri, Oct 9, 2009, at 9:52 AM

I personally know the victim and the accused (John Sullivan)in this situation. I have read all of these comments made. I have seen the results John's temper first hand, and yes it is bad. I feel everyone deserves a 2nd chance but not 5,6,7,or 8 chances! Are you people serious? When is enough, enough? When he finally does finish what he starts, killing a woman? Come on guys. I'm personally thrilled that he lost his job over all this. It's about time. If that had been any of the other fireman there, would they have kept their job? I think not! I really feel sorry for all the other fireman that are being ridiculed because of the actions of a coward that beats women and the system. I pray for the victim and her family. I don't believe John's "buddies" are going to be able to help much this time. REMEBER THERE ARE OTHER DETAIL SHOPS IN SHELBYVILLE, PLEASE FEEL FREE 2 CHECK THEM OUT B4 U GO TO J&J!

-- Posted by BAMABALL'09 on Fri, Oct 9, 2009, at 3:34 PM

Moral Monkey you need to understand that these are not blogs. They are responses to a storie written by a reporter, who only wrote the facts. And no these were not available when I was falsly arrested. Tho some would have said I deserved it, I'm sure. There is no sense in splitting hairs on here. No one on here has convicted John. They have only voiced their opinions. You do remember that thing they taught in school about Freedom Of Speech, don't you?

John will have his day in court. It will then be his lawyers place to prove his (as you say) innocence. While the DA will be there to prove his guilt. I don't know John's family. But I am sure that his mother is hurting for the woman that John beat. Unfortunatley so many times parents are the ones who suffer for their childrens actions. Because they are the ones who have to go out in public and have fingers pointed and know people are talking about them behind their backs. And yes even blaming them for that childs actions.

Sometimes, parents are to blame. In this day and age our young people have things to easy. They have had everything handed to them on a silver platter. But there are those parents who have tried their best to raise their children the right way. Tried to teach them that you must work for what you get. And how to stand up and be a man or woman and except the consequences for whatever they may have done wrong. But in cases like this, there is no winner or loser. The coourts will decide his innocence or his guilt. Not we on here. We only voice our views on stories. And we all have different views. And thank God, we live in a country that allows us that right. Don't put the blame on the newspaper and reporters. They report the facts as they have researched. And they are also the first to admit when they have made a mistake.

When the Gazette posts the arrests in the paper, they do post at the top of the list, that they are only been charged with whatever crime, not that they are guilty of the crime. So Moral Monkey, you are the one who needs to cool their heals for awhile and go back to yesterdays story and reread it. I did and some of the things that Mr Mosely was accused of saying, were'nt there. Everyones minds percieve things different and some just plain old see what they want to see. Oh and Boss Hog, I assure you, I have never been anyones one night stand. Because you see, I do have Morals!!!

-- Posted by Mama52 on Fri, Oct 9, 2009, at 6:24 PM

Lips, honestly...if this happened to your daughter your first step is prayer? God helps those who help themselves. First things first, Mr. Sulliven thinks he's able to live as he pleases and in complete disregard to social standards.

Secondly, any man who puts hands to a women ONE TIME deserves no mercy, no second chances and no opportunity to do it again. Bury him under the jail for all I care.

Finally, we can now enter into prayer for the saving of his soul because his conscious is lost.

-- Posted by big daddy rabbit on Fri, Oct 9, 2009, at 7:07 PM

It seems Moral Monkey and Carl McClanahan both have an obsession with bushes. Could it be that they both crawled out from under the same one?

-- Posted by writeattitude on Fri, Oct 9, 2009, at 10:30 PM

i agree with big daddy rabbit also and wow boss...i think you got her point!

-- Posted by cascadebornandbred on Fri, Oct 9, 2009, at 10:43 PM

Trying to get everyone to stop using the detail shop is hurting not just John that hurts their employees and his brother. And for Rolltideroll you need to get your facts straight before you go posting info. Aaron never has touched Wanda. Good lord people we are not to judge anyone! His day will come when the all mighty maker will judge him as he is the only one that can judge anyone!

-- Posted by MominDooLittle on Mon, Oct 12, 2009, at 1:07 PM