Some who matter -- and some who don't

Sunday, September 22, 2013

Three groups. Three outlooks.

People gathered Friday to honor prisoners of war and soldiers missing in action. All there -- whether present in everyone's minds or present in person -- represented what's best about America: A nation's people, of all backgrounds, coming together to honor those who cared enough to go through extreme conditions -- including willingness to give their lives -- to keep our nation free.

They sacrificed for everyone -- not just a chosen few.

On Sunday, Sept. 29, people will gather at Bedford County Agriculture Center at 3 p.m. to remember several missing people from Bedford County.

The crowd will be made up of people who care enough to search, pray and just be there for others who are hoping against steep odds to find their loved ones, or at least find some closure.

In October a group of totally misguided people plan to march through Bedford County.

The "League of the South" claims to be "defending" the people of Tennessee.

The group falsely claims the "government" is "imposing an alien (Islamic) culture" and "replacing the people and culture of Tennessee."

We don't need to bring back a former Southern "tradition" of prejudice.

The only valid point the group may have is the alleged tendency of some employers to hire foreigners because they accept extremely low pay, keeping Americans from jobs.

But that's an issue to fight by targeting the employers -- not those who accept the jobs.

The best and worst of America -- and the South -- are on display over the next few weeks. Honor those who truly care. Discredit the prejudiced.

And remember our real "defenders" are those who were honored Friday, along with all who ever wore the uniform of any branch of the United States military.

Those gatherings of people supporting families and friends of the missing, and there have been several gatherings with more likely to come, include representatives of multiple ethnic backgrounds.

About that other group: Let them exercise their freedom of speech, a freedom fought for by Americans of all backgrounds and colors.

But just ignore them. They may get the message.

-- Times-Gazette copy editor David Melson can be contacted at

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  • That's exactly what is happening. The US State Department's Office of Refugee Resettlement is paying NGOs to resettle Muslim "refugees" from its endless foreign wars in Middle Tennessee.

    The US federal government refuses to enforce its own immigration laws. It has handcuffed the Border Patrol. It sues states like Alabama and South Carolina in federal court to block their immigration laws.

    Tyson Foods is the magnet drawing illegal aliens to the Shelbyville area. Then you have the liberal media demonizing people who are upset that their way of life is being changed without their consent.

    The League of the South is standing up for the people and traditional culture of Middle Tennessee. The liberal media, the Obama administration, corrupt NGOs, and evil corporations that want to exploit cheap labor are on the other side.

    -- Posted by bradgriffin1980 on Sun, Sep 22, 2013, at 12:39 PM
  • It's interesting how you defend the practice of the US Government of replacing the local people of your area with Islamic 'refugees'. Why do you oppose the people of Tennessee? Why do you want them replaced with Muslims and other Third World immigrants? TN is a unique place with a unique culture but if your policy is pursued it will be just a motley assortment of people from all over the planet - it will have no unique culture. The people of TN deserve better than this sort of 'journalism' that advocates their replacement.

    -- Posted by PalmettoPatriot on Sun, Sep 22, 2013, at 2:03 PM
  • As a small business owner I can say frist hand that i feel disrespect that the federal goverment does not enforce our border laws. And also the media cant even show respect for the southern folks that love there culture so much thay will drive out of state to help fellow southerns. Dont let the diversity nazi fool you any, they are in fact making southerns a minorty in there own land and were being replaced!

    -- Posted by miloozma on Sun, Sep 22, 2013, at 3:37 PM
  • Their goal is turn Middle Tennessee into another Los Angeles where the social fabric has been eviscerated, where the natives - culturally, politically, and economically - have been displaced by foreigners without their consent, and where there is less social capital than almost anywhere else on the face of the earth.

    -- Posted by bradgriffin1980 on Sun, Sep 22, 2013, at 8:28 PM
  • Mr Melson, much to your future chagrin, we're not going to be ignored. The leftists, who's side you're really on, are going to make sure that's the case. The people of your area, who're sick and tired of these aliens being dumped on them, are going to notice our signs and flags, and start hardening their resolve against the state and federal governments, the NGO's, and corrupt businessmen who are ruining their lives. Your paper is a part of that corruption that's destroying us. Thankfully, we have the internet now and we can do a end run around your perfidious fish wrap. Nope, we're not going to be ignored, nor will we go away. We'll be in the faces of you and your fellow leftists for a long time.

    -- Posted by ScotIrishSaami52 on Sun, Sep 22, 2013, at 11:40 PM
  • David Melson writes:

    "The only valid point the group may have is the alleged tendency of some employers to hire foreigners because they accept extremely low pay, keeping Americans from jobs.

    But that's an issue to fight by targeting the employers -- not those who accept the jobs."

    Jack responds :

    And that is what LOS and other individuals are doing - calling public attention to Tyson Foods terrible, low wage labor practices, also Tyson Foods abuse of animals - these are legitimate issues usually associated with "progressives", Liberals. But, in this case TN locals seem to be siding with Tyson Foods' $7.8 million a year CEO. Why? Because it is packaged with bashing working class White Southerners trying to earn a living wage.

    -- Posted by Jackryan on Mon, Sep 23, 2013, at 10:43 AM
  • ScotIrishSaami wites:

    "Mr Melson, much to your future chagrin, we're not going to be ignored. The leftists, who's side you're really on, are going to make sure"

    Jack disagrees.

    I think this reporter is not siding with Libral/Lftists, he's siding with selfish, filthy rich Tyson CEO DonnieSmith who is abusing local workers, abusing animals and flooding Middle Tennssee with 7th century Islamic extremists who practice polygammy and female circumcision. How is that Liberal?

    -- Posted by Jackryan on Mon, Sep 23, 2013, at 1:04 PM
  • Mr. Melson, your words above amply demonstrate why we in the League of the South need to appear in Murfreesboro and Shelbyville. That being that in the eyes of many - including yourself - we do not matter. That is what the self chosen elites have decided. That we and every Southerner does not count and ought to be replaced. You and people like you are why we are coming to Tennessee. It is mighty big of you to respect our rights to assemble and voice our grievances but if we do not matter I do not believe I can count on your magnanimity if the people there are receptive to our message. For if we do not count then why ought we be able to speak. You speak of prejudice as if you were free from it. But what you have written above is marked by anti-Southern prejudice.

    -- Posted by haroldcrews on Mon, Sep 23, 2013, at 4:17 PM
    Response by John Carney:
    You and your organization keep using the term "replaced" or "displaced." Who is replacing you? Who is forcing you to go anywhere else or do anything other than what you're doing now? Check a dictionary; the arrival of immigrants doesn't "displace" you unless you're somehow being forced to leave. Speaking a native Tennessean who has lived in Bedford County since 1972, I don't feel displaced at all. I live in an apartment building in which most of my neighbors are Latino. They do their thing, and I do mine, and we respect each other. That's the American way. I'm not threatened by neighbors just because they're different.

    Are there legitimate issues such as border security or economic impact that can be discussed? Sure there are. But the League of the South, listed as a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center, has long since demonstrated that it's driven more by prejudice than policy. You sling mud at entire groups of people in a way that lumps together criminals and hard-working citizens, that makes someone a suspect, not because of their individual actions, but because they happen to have a funny-sounding last name or unfamiliar religious beliefs.

    The very premise of your rally is based on the idea that "immigrants" are bad. Well, there are good and bad immigrants, and have been, in every era of American history -- just as there are good and bad natives, and have been, in every era of American history. America is a nation of individuals, a nation where each person is judged according to his or her own merits or punished for his or her own individual offenses.

    Your group, and the event you are planning, are driven, not by policy, but by hatred. I think most people I've spoken to recognize that.

  • I'm glad you raised that issue.

    We're strongly in favor of the traditional SOUTHERN and EUROPEAN, as opposed to American (read: Northern) idea, that group affiliations - far from being irrelevant - are and should be extremely relevant to public policy.

    We believe in preserving the people of Middle Tennessee and their traditional way of life for future generations whereas liberals believe in transforming the area into yet another failed experiment in multiculturalism and breeding ground for jihadists like Boston or the Minneapolis-St. Paul metro area.

    In Tennessee, as opposed to the Northeast, we have traditionally judged people in law and custom not only as individuals, but also in terms of their culture, religion, and ethnic background. It was considered radical here not to do so until a few generations ago.

    It's a liberal fantasy that "individuals" only have personal identities when in reality they also have group identities, loyalties, and affiliations. When you flood an area like Middle Tennessee with thousands of people from a radically different culture (a "Stone Age" level of civilization according to your own T-G reporter, Brian Mosely), you start to change everything about that area.

    You change everything from the political composition of the region, the school system, the quality of public services, the availability of employment, property values, the crime rate, the poverty rate, the tax base, the types of businesses in the area, and so on.

    You destroy the social fabric and make an area start to feel alien and inhospitable - a place like modern Birmingham, AL or Detroit, MI - to the people who were born there and whose ancestors have lived there for generations. That's what we mean by "displacement" and it is happening in Middle Tennessee and all over the South.

    If you consider it "hateful" to keep Shelbyville the way it was, a quiet Southern small town like Mayberry, then so be it. Let's be "hateful" to liberals then and avoid the mistake of transforming Middle Tennessee into a breeding ground for jihadists like Boston, Minneapolis, or Portland, Maine.

    -- Posted by bradgriffin1980 on Tue, Sep 24, 2013, at 1:04 AM
  • John Carney writes:

    "The very premise of your rally is based on the idea that "immigrants" are bad. Well, there are good and bad immigrants"

    Jack responds:

    League of the South is protesting bad immigration - low skilled, low wage workers, with extremely different, hostile culture from Southern people living in Middle Tennessee. The hostile culture includes practices such as:


    Forced female circumcision


    Islamic terrorism

    Heroin trafficking

    Failure to practice modern hygiene

    Drive by shootings


    Sexual grooming, rape

    Suicide bombings in Christian churches

    Exploding hand grenades, slaughtering non Muslims in shopping malls.

    Acid attacks on women who show their faces in public

    OK, so are we clear that we're not "tolerant" of extremely "intolerant" hateful, murderous cultural practices targeting our people?

    -- Posted by Jackryan on Wed, Sep 25, 2013, at 9:39 AM
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