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Steve Mills

When does "progress" trump leaving things well enough alone? Rezoning good or bad.

Posted Tuesday, March 10, 2015, at 2:49 PM
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  • Well, I don't live in that area, and I think those residents of that area should have a say in it. BUT, the owner should have a right to sell their property as well. It is a very delicate situation.

    The situation arises though, would the owner sell the property if it were deemed residential as well? Or is the rezoning the only reason he is going to sell it? It is hard to make a decision without the information.

    -- Posted by Evil Monkey on Wed, Mar 11, 2015, at 7:08 AM
  • Are there notes from the meetings that are posted on line? At one time I thought you were looking at that EM.

    -- Posted by stevemills on Wed, Mar 11, 2015, at 7:55 AM
  • As I understand it, the home in the picture is going to be demolished but the owner says yes. It seems to be well kept and in good condition so why do the preservationists look at buying the structure and moving it.

    This way the owner still gets their money, maybe more, the preservationists get their historical building and the developed does not have to pay for it to be removed.

    -- Posted by stevemills on Wed, Mar 11, 2015, at 7:59 AM
  • I would go back and correct my typos, but I've seen much worse and yet we still understand, so....

    -- Posted by stevemills on Wed, Mar 11, 2015, at 8:01 AM
  • That is the thing Steve, these people love to go around and protest about a certain building being demolished and trying to dictate to a property owner what they can or can not do with their own property but those same people never want to invest the money in buying the property or keeping it up themselves. I am not a huge fan of the possibility of another Wal-Mart opening up there no matter what size it is but I get so tired of seeing so many old buildings being left around and start falling apart just to satisfy a few people who want to resist change and progress.

    -- Posted by jaxspike on Wed, Mar 11, 2015, at 9:56 AM
  • I was kind of curious who "they" are and only saw group names on the article in the T-G so I went to change.org (referenced in the T-G article) to see if I could read the whole petition.

    So far, I cannot find it. Does anyone know how to research it there, or have a link?

    I am not necessarily against preservation. In fact, there are times when I really get grumpy about change. I just wanted to find out more and hear others' opinions.

    -- Posted by stevemills on Wed, Mar 11, 2015, at 11:00 AM
  • This maybe the "they" you are speaking of Steve

    http://www.savehistoricshelbyville.org/

    But from the way I understand this piece of property is not listed as a Historical Site so I do not understand what their connection would be

    -- Posted by Dianatn on Wed, Mar 11, 2015, at 12:13 PM
  • I think it's just another way for the few to fight progress again in Shelbyville by protesting an old house. They should buy it if they care so much about it and build a glass frame around it! I think its old and only the slat boards are good for old picture frames, but that's me! Seems like they would be more interested in this town finally growing a little more, thank goodness that's already set in stone!

    Wal-mart is just the rumor! I can't see a smaller Walmart test convenience store when there are none elsewhere and we already have a super Walmart that covers our population. The rumor that we don't have the population for a Publix I also think is a myth. They tried once before and the secret got out and caused them to back out so I think it's logical for them to try again while the want is still there.

    Smith's Foodtown was an IGA at one time, so I would not doubt Jr's Foodtown in Murfreesboro looking for a Shelbyville location. But WalMart building a test convenience store, I might be all wrong but I found that hard to believe the first time I heard it! Maybe it will be a WholeFoods I'd believe that before I'd believe it's another WallyWorld!

    -- Posted by chefgrape on Wed, Mar 11, 2015, at 12:45 PM
  • I would love it to be a WholeFoods :)

    -- Posted by Dianatn on Wed, Mar 11, 2015, at 1:04 PM
  • Thanks for the link Dianatn. I followed it and found some information but never could get to the link that showed "signatures".

    I did find a link to the "petition" but most of the points they mentioned had little to do with preservation. Point #9 did say this "While we do recognize the rights of the property owners of the Historic Rappleye Home to sell the home, as they wish, to whom they wish, we request that this rezoning not include another historic structure which will lead to its demolition."

    With all respect due, does anyone know any history about this home? The only reference I can find is recent comments because of this rezoning.

    Just wonderin'......

    -- Posted by stevemills on Wed, Mar 11, 2015, at 3:50 PM
  • I found this when I googled the Alton Ave location, just wanted to share.

    https://www.facebook.com/HistoricBelmont

    -- Posted by volsfamily on Thu, Mar 12, 2015, at 10:23 AM
  • I found that one too volsfamily but I still did not see what was historic about the home except its age.

    I am not asking you volsfamily but anyone who knows, what makes this "historic". I know a lot of old buildings in the area, but I doubt that we can or want to preserve all of them.

    Is this one open to the public, or a tourist draw for some reason?

    Just being curious.

    -- Posted by stevemills on Thu, Mar 12, 2015, at 12:58 PM
  • Historic Preservation as a whole is a huge draw for tourism and economic development according to numerous groups and organizations, as well as numerous published reports.

    This home is "Shelbyville Historic", just because George Washington did not sleep here, does not make it any less historic. This home was featured in the 1969 Bedford County Historical Society's book "Doors to the Past", the page can be found here: http://bit.ly/1EaMI4H

    As to the rezoning issue, the opponents are mainly concerned with their already depressed property values being hit even more (A Prominent Nashville Realtor have already stated that if this Commercial Grocery with Gas Station is built in this location, the surrounding property values will plummet), the noise and increased traffic to an already congested area, as well as no one mentioning that an active 35 year old Daycare will be sitting directly behind the property, with all of the above, the neighbors and residents are concerned for the safety of their children above all else. The Group is having its first organizational meeting tonight, to route the path that they have to take, by law.

    As to a previous comment to not being able to see the signatures on Change.org, no petition on Change.org has visible signatures. Only the Administrators for those specific petitions have access to this information, which at the Public Forum will be presented to the City Council, along with the Paper Petitions which will begin to circulate this weekend.

    With an already confirmed $1 million dollar offer on one of the lots alone, this projects leaders have spent more than the appraised value for the entire Former Krogers location. That amount is being spent on 1 of the 11 total lots involved. Other property owners, who have refused offers, were offered between $100,000 to $140,000 on an appraised value home of $60,000-$80,000.

    -- Posted by rthompson on Fri, Mar 13, 2015, at 9:40 AM
  • Thanks for the info rthompson. I presume it will be ok to divulge the time and location of that meeting of you so wish.

    Would the name of this prominent Nashville Realtor be available? What do our prominent local realtors say? At offer of 1.5 times current appraisal, it does not sound like property value is going down.

    Now it may go down as residential but would commercial vale not be better?

    I also wonder if the folks working at the new location might have need of a daycare center close by?

    What is the definition of historical that brings tourism? I apologize that I do not know this family name nor its place in Shelbyville history. Is there a place to learn this?

    -- Posted by stevemills on Fri, Mar 13, 2015, at 1:41 PM
  • Sorry about the typos. I keep saying I am not going to use my phone but..... the temptation to write is too much.

    -- Posted by stevemills on Fri, Mar 13, 2015, at 1:58 PM
  • Just because some people owned a house and lived in it does not make it historical . . . none of the names mentioned in that article that rthompson linked sound familiar to me.

    And considering how businesses have left Madison Street for North Main, I would think having a grocery retailer on Madison would bring up the value of the land in that area and the increased traffic might also lure other business back to the Madison Street area.

    Sounds like to me somoene is generating a lot of misinformation to promote their own agenda and cause . . . aka prevent growth and progress from occurring in Shelbyville.

    -- Posted by jaxspike on Sat, Mar 14, 2015, at 11:55 AM
  • Alas....if only we could have our cake and eat it too. I've lived here all my life and I do love our historical homes and buildings. I rather appreciate the architecture and the labor of love that went into these structures. However, I also like progress and look forward to most things new. It's been interesting to watch how our community has grown and even become more culturally diverse. It's sad to see the old homes and other structures give way to progress. (such as the old harness company and Patterson's hardware)But with careful planning there should be a way to continue to blend new and old so as not to take away from what makes people proud to call Shelbyville their home.

    Now if only the idea of new industry could generate as much interest as the thought of a new convenience store?

    -- Posted by Tim Lokey on Sat, Mar 14, 2015, at 11:19 PM
  • In a time of weak economic growth it would seem that finding good employees would not be a challenge but that really is an issue. If you are an employer you know what I mean.

    Certainly you want qualified folks but just finding trainable employees who care about doing a conscientious job can be a huge task. I use conscientious instead of "hard working" because I am not talking about someone to work 12 hours for 8 hour pay, or work in unreasonable conditions,

    Just give a solid 8 hours, with personal pride to do your best. "Well what can you expect for $ per hour?" Well, they kind of expect for the worker to do their best for whatever they've accepted as a salary.

    Some jobs just cannot afford to pay big bucks. It doesn't matter what the government dictates. If it does not generate more than what is being paid, it will not be sustainable and the job will be eliminated.

    I know, there are employers who could do better or are downright cheap, but there are many more employees who do not work a fair shift as well.

    Just a small rant. :-)

    -- Posted by stevemills on Sun, Mar 15, 2015, at 7:47 AM
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    Seems to me the people protesting just need something to occupy their time. If they really cared about preserving the house, they could buy it, move it, and preserve it. If you look at the letter they want people to sign, you will see they are in favor of " progressive economic development". Progressive. Maybe they could get to community organizer in cheif to come run the town in a few years.

    -- Posted by fair share on Wed, Mar 18, 2015, at 3:28 PM
  • Good employees are indeed hard to find and once you have an employee with good work ethics, it can sometimes be even harder to keep them. Hard working, dedicated and loyal employees seem to be a rare commodity these days.

    -- Posted by Tim Lokey on Sat, Mar 21, 2015, at 5:00 PM
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