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Steve Mills

Democratic Primary, what looked boring is livening up!

Posted Wednesday, August 12, 2015, at 11:41 AM
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  • The e-mail gate will turn out just like the White Water and Benghazi gate.No smoking guns found only more conspiracy theories in the minds of republicans.After seeing how little republican candidates care about women issues and immigration during the debate,none of them has a chance of getting elected president.The polls don't matter,what counts is election day.When women and minorities go into those private booths to vote that will determine who wins.So republicans keep talking about defunding planned parenthood and building their fences.Donald Trump is the only reason the republican party is fired up.He is making a laughing stock of the party and they are afraid to touch him.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Wed, Aug 12, 2015, at 4:19 PM
  • I think the "Donald" secretly entered the race as a diversion tactic to keep republicans talking about him and making a mockery of the Republicans even more then what they have done to themselves over the last couple years. Like allowing the shut-down of government and wasting time and taxpayer money trying to repeal Obama Care 52 times when they knew it would get vetoed.

    By-The-Way, I have never seen such disrespect by others in office as they have given Barack or the position of POTUS period!...When did this country earn the rights to make a mockery of those in charge? There goes the young aspiring to be President one day...Congress is the biggest farce in the country! The shenanigans of elected officials these days really makes us as a country in whole, really look bad to the rest of the "World".

    Mr. Trump is getting paid by Bill and Hillary,and the Democrats, just you watch...If he does run Independent and doesn't take the oath to run against Republicans it almost guarantees Hillary to be the next and first "Woman-dent" And then there's the Bernie Sanders fellow...It might all tank before its over! Those who have the most money are holding the aces in this game!

    -- Posted by chefgrape on Thu, Aug 13, 2015, at 9:11 AM
  • Is it beneficial for someone to "know the ropes" in Congress or better that "new blood" gets inject after a few terms? (Term limits)

    -- Posted by stevemills on Thu, Aug 13, 2015, at 3:23 PM
  • It is the same old tactics. Divide an conquer. Exploitation of divisions in our society by race, sex, sexual orientation, gender, status, etc..

    Here is a good common sense read that does a good job of explaining. http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/1984-02-03/news/os-ed-charley-reese-545-peop...

    -- Posted by Liveforlight on Thu, Aug 13, 2015, at 3:27 PM
  • Interesting points to consider regardless of party.

    -- Posted by stevemills on Thu, Aug 13, 2015, at 7:05 PM
  • Unfortunately Steve, people seem to have lost all common sense and believe the rhetoric of their party of choice without considering that they are both working together to set in place the people who will line their pockets with the most plunder. They charge us to create the problems, then charge us again to try and solve them, just as Mr. Reese's 1984 article describes.

    The allure with Trump is that he is not a career politician, like most others, and speaks some common sense points matter-of-factly. However, IMO he is, what his characterization on TV is, an overbearing mouthpiece.

    My choice for the GOP would be Ben Carson, Ted Cruz, or Carly Fiorina. None of these are likely to secure the nomination. Most likely, Trump's blabbering will keep the media and public busy so that none of these candidates can get their message out. Then, Trump will bow out, or go independent, leaving Bush in the lead for the nomination.

    For the Democrats it will be Hillary, even with all her corruption baggage. Thus the non-choice of 2 in-the-pocket career politicians to continue in the propitiation of public rhetoric (aka political correctness) to increase the plundering for the sake of plunder.

    -- Posted by Liveforlight on Thu, Aug 13, 2015, at 8:07 PM
  • How do we do away with parties and just elect individuals?

    -- Posted by stevemills on Thu, Aug 13, 2015, at 8:46 PM
  • Good question! It will take a grass roots movement of the people and there must be a uniting force/factor. For that, there would need to be unbiased truthful media and a genuine love for one another. Given the current situation, it would seem impossible.

    -- Posted by Liveforlight on Fri, Aug 14, 2015, at 5:48 AM
  • The Democrats will be heard and felt on election day,thanks to Trump.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Fri, Aug 14, 2015, at 10:49 AM
  • I am sorry but both parties and the candidates they offer is a joke this year. Neither party actually cares for the citizens of this nation . . . they just want to further their own political and monetary gains. Unfortunately this nation is so easily influenced by sound bites and political rhetoric that they cannot make an actual informed decision. So people like lets be real who will vote for Clinton and the idiots who are supporting Trump are just continuing the "dumbing down" effect of this once great nation.

    -- Posted by jaxspike on Sat, Aug 15, 2015, at 4:07 AM
  • Who would you think is a viable candidate jaxspike? Regardless of any party affiliation.

    -- Posted by stevemills on Sat, Aug 15, 2015, at 1:29 PM
  • Those "sound bites" to which you refer, quotes out of context, etc., are they creating the secretive, dishonest activities we all seem to expect yet hate with politicians.

    Do they keep honest potential candidates from running because they do not want to have their family and themselves run through the muck?

    One doe not seem to have to worry about slander or defamation lawsuits if you aim it at a political figure. Should we make people more responsible for what they throw out there?

    -- Posted by stevemills on Sat, Aug 15, 2015, at 1:36 PM
  • This nation is still great,we are much better off than we were 8 years ago.Jaxspike you don't know who I am voting for.Big money is influencing this election.That is what decided what 10 candidates Faux would put on the debate stage.Faux is number 1 when it comes to biased untruthful media.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Sat, Aug 15, 2015, at 7:30 PM
  • Lets be real, You obviously don't know what "real" is. Your bias is evident in all your post as being racist and sexiest such as this post from above. "When women and minorities go into those private booths to vote that will determine who wins." It is understandable, given your diet and obvious hunger for bias.

    The media is bought and paid for by 6 major corporations.

    http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/who-owns-the-media-the-6-monolithic-...

    Ever notice what commercials are running when you watch the news?

    Here is a direct quote from the above page.

    "Media corporations do not exist to objectively tell the truth to the American people. Rather, the primary purpose of their existence is to make money.

    These gigantic media corporations are not going to do anything to threaten their relationships with their biggest advertisers (such as the largest pharmaceutical companies that literally spend billions on advertising), and one way or another these gigantic media corporations are always going to express the ideological viewpoints of their owners."

    Genuine love for one another is needed. Instead we have genuine love of money.

    -- Posted by Liveforlight on Sat, Aug 15, 2015, at 9:51 PM
  • Genuine love for one another is needed. Instead we have genuine love of money.

    -- Posted by Liveforlight on Sat, Aug 15, 2015, at 9:51 PM

    Now that really is the truth of truths. Very well said.

    -- Posted by Blessed Assurance on Sun, Aug 16, 2015, at 9:17 AM
  • At the risk of being marginalized by those who are happy with the status quo, I will post some info that lends itself to some common sense here:

    There are many who think we are better off now than 8 yrs ago. But are we really? Measured by what? The economy?, Unemployment?, Healthcare?, Debt?, Inflation?, National Security?, Welfare, Immigration? Etc,,,,

    The one thing all of these have in common is MONEY. If you, or I, get into financial trouble we can get relief, temporarily, by borrowing money. But, that is only a temporary fix, the problem has not been addressed. It is the same with any entity, government included.

    The last 8 years have been no different than the 80 before. We are still being sold out! The debt has gone from $9Trillion to $19Trillion in those 8 yrs, and people think that is good!! Really? incredible! We are being herded into slavery while people applaud!

    Want to know how, who is behind it, what to do about it? It all boils down to money!

    Here are some links of interest;

    Long video, but worth the watch;

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lu_VqX6J...

    Make no mistake we are at war! This war is different from others, but has the same objective. The seizure of CONTROL!! The survival of our freedom and lives are at stake.

    This war is an ideological one. The battles are for hearts and minds. The most powerful weapon of influence is money.

    http://www.freedomforceinternational.org...

    There is, however, a force of influence more powerful than money. If you don't know what force that is, then you have a long way to go. :)

    -- Posted by Liveforlight on Sun, Aug 16, 2015, at 9:17 AM
  • Bernie Sanders!

    -- Posted by devan on Sun, Aug 16, 2015, at 12:54 PM
  • Gotta love how liberals howl about a non-existent republican war on women, and can, with a straight face I presume, advocate Hillary as a candidate when she covered for her husband's numerous sexual assaults against women.

    -- Posted by quietmike on Sun, Aug 16, 2015, at 9:01 PM
  • I was not aware of any sexual assaults Bill Clinton committed,show me the convictions.These were grown women who consented who knew what they were doing and that he was married.There was a number of great presidents that had affairs,so what.That has got nothing to do with running the country.People are more concerned with having a job when they wakeup in the morning than who the president slept with.Bill is not running for president Hillary is.Republicans are against equal pay for women and cutting healthcare for women.They say they want less government except when it comes to a womans body.Even Fiorina,a republican woman, is against extending pregnancy leave for women.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Sun, Aug 16, 2015, at 9:52 PM
  • Let's be real. Do you think man who is unfaithful to his wife will be faithful to his country?

    -- Posted by Liveforlight on Mon, Aug 17, 2015, at 7:57 AM
  • LBR, I am not Democrat and in many ways not Republican either so I am not asking from a defensive position, but what makes you say that the Republican Party is against equal pay for women?

    Cutting healthcare for women? Are you referring to not wanting to fund abortion clinics or is there something else?

    Women do not want to (nor should they) be discriminated against when it comes to hiring or pay, but the more the government forces me to pay for an employee who is not working, or make extended exceptions for them, the less employers would want to hire them.

    Just sayin', if you want to be treated equally, expect to be treated equally. If a company wants and can afford to give extra benefits, GREAT, but the government forcing them to do something they may not be able to afford is detrimental.

    -- Posted by stevemills on Mon, Aug 17, 2015, at 11:38 AM
  • John Kennedy was faithful to his country and had several affairs.Look at the faces America put on Mt Rushmore,Lincoln,Washington,Roosevelt and Jefferson.Roosevelt had numerous well known affairs.Washington and Jefferson owned the women they had sex with, and I am sure it was not consensual.Remember the story of Sally Hemming who had children by Jefferson.I read that ( the great) Reagan left his first wife for Nancy.Yet they were all faithful to America.Bill Clinton was one of the greatest presidents of America.Hillary is running not Bill and she is no more responsible for his affairs than any other woman whos husband does.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Mon, Aug 17, 2015, at 11:54 AM
  • I tried to find info on Roosevelts affairs and found none, except for FDR. Perhaps you are confusing him with Teddy? No matter you think they can be trusted. OK

    One distinction I would point out is that Bill committed at least one of his while in office, actually in the office, then lied under oath.

    If you trust those who have proven unfaithful, then, OK. That is your choice.

    You are right. It is Hillary running not Bill. She has already proven herself untrustworthy on many occasions with blatant lies and violation of laws dating all the way back to Nixon.

    Trust her if you want. SMH

    -- Posted by Liveforlight on Mon, Aug 17, 2015, at 12:25 PM
  • My head just a shakin to.

    -- Posted by Blessed Assurance on Mon, Aug 17, 2015, at 5:47 PM
  • The idea that Clinton was the only president that had an affair while in office or actually in the office is laughable.What other president was asked under oath about their numerous affairs?The majority of the country did not care,which still shows today in his high favorability rating.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Mon, Aug 17, 2015, at 7:16 PM
  • What other President has lied under oath is the better question. What is laughable, or sad actually, is that you support the Democratic party regardless of the content of the character of the person(s) they choose to represent them.

    As a Christian, I would think their removing God from their platform and then booing when they added him back at the convention would be enough to garner suspicions about their ideology.

    Bill IS also one of only two Presidents to be impeached. Of course, by Clintons own words that depends on what your definition of "is" is. He also paid a $90,000 fine for contempt of court and paid $850,000 as settlement for the Paula Jones case as well as other deals to have cases against them dropped. This, of course, is mere pennies to political millionaires like the Clintons. They don't call him "slick willy" for nothing.

    You are probably right about the majority of the country not caring. That is more of an indicator of the regression of morality than it is the favorable content of character of the Clintons. As long as they send public money to their supporters they can get away with virtually anything.

    Similarly, you choose to support Obama who ran on a platform of transparency while refusing to release his own records. This kind of allegiance is what is known as a "yellow dog Democrat". Yes, I am sure you have every intention of voting for Hillary. But, lets be real,do you think she would have not filed for divorce had it not been for her political aspirations?

    The Clinton's are slick, no doubt. But, with the number of out-right lies, scandals, foreign contributions, mysterious deaths, etc.. surrounding them it leaves little doubt as to the content of their character.

    -- Posted by Liveforlight on Mon, Aug 17, 2015, at 10:00 PM
  • The idea that planned parenthood mostly does abortions is another right wing lie. Only 3% of services at these clinics are abortions,the rest is cancer screening,contraception,treating sexually transmitted diseases,pap smears and mammograms.For some women this is the only healthcare they can afford,since our Governor and state of Tenn continue to refuse to expand Medicaid for poor working people.With out this care it will cost the state more for hospital bills.Planned parenthood does receive federal funding but it cant be used for abortion by law,which republicans fail to admit on the news.Obama has released every thing but his first grade report card.What else does he need to release?I am still waiting to see Ted Cruz birth certificate since he was not born in America or is that all of a sudden not relevant now.The republican party have a bigger problem than Hillary.It is Trump,he is and will destroy the party.If he wins the nomination the party will lose,if he loses the nomination they will lose when he goes independent.I say keep talking Mr Trump,you are a gift to the democratic party.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Tue, Aug 18, 2015, at 1:23 PM
  • Lets be real, your hatred of the right is again leading you to believe the MSM and leftist rhetoric.

    Planned Parenthood gets paid handsomely to kill, dismember and sell,,, babies. They not only get our tax dollars, but handsome payments from many other sources. It is all about the money, killing babies and selling parts is very profitable. how far would those same dollars go towards caring and providing for the those who truly need it?

    The 3% is a lie. Just by using PP's own numbers.

    http://www.lifenews.com/2012/09/05/media-hides-fact-planned-parenthood-does-40-o...

    You are obviously a black racist, but it still amazes me how you support those who do the most damage to your race.

    http://www.abort73.com/abortion/abortion_and_race/

    In collectivist terms this kind of thinking is referred to as "useful idiots".

    Democrats and collectivist seem to love government and hate America. This is a destructive ideology.

    The war of ideology we are ALL engaged in cannot be won without some common sense and genuine love for one another. That love includes those who have not yet been born.

    -- Posted by Liveforlight on Tue, Aug 18, 2015, at 5:41 PM
  • Live for life Bill Clinton PROVED that a man can be unfaithful to his wife and still be Faithful to his country, and G.W.Bush proved that just because a man IS faithful to his wife in no ways means he will be so to his country......so your comment is useless

    -- Posted by wonderwhy on Tue, Aug 18, 2015, at 6:56 PM
  • Well, so much for a thoughtful discussion.

    However, it does remind me why I rarely create posts on this type of subject.

    -- Posted by stevemills on Tue, Aug 18, 2015, at 7:20 PM
  • Clinton being faithful? He is one of the most corrupt people in politics! He gave military secrets to the Chinese in exchange for Campaign contributions, just to mention one. his administration brokered the deal with North Korea promising this would prevent them from obtaining nuclear weapons, which they now have, and thanks to his transfer of technology to China, they also have the means to deliver them to the U.S.

    The Clinton administration had reset long-standing policies relating to technology transfers. By March of 1994, the administration had abolished the COCOM system that had safeguarded technology transfers from Western countries to East Bloc or communist nations.

    He took the key decision-making powers over technology transfers from the State and Defense Departments and gave them to the Commerce Department.

    These changes greatly expedited sales of U.S. technology, including supercomputers once prohibited for sale to communist countries and useful in developing nuclear weapons.

    When the Justice Department began a grand jury probe of this apparent illegal transfer, President Clinton quickly reclassified the technology and approved its transfer, effectively undermining the Justice Department's case

    He has a long list of unfaithfulness to this country.

    http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualprofile.asp?indid=644

    Bush is also part of the problem. His administration great increased the size and scope of government, as has the current administration.

    That is the problem!! The Dem and GOP are working together to squash individual liberty and place themselves firmly in control of every aspect of our lives making themselves ultra rich in the process.

    There are no perfect people and people control government. That is why government power should be minimal in size and scope as it was intended. What we need is faithful people, who believe in individual liberty and less government.

    Steve, I apologize for my part in steering your post away from "thoughtful discussion".

    -- Posted by Liveforlight on Tue, Aug 18, 2015, at 8:44 PM
  • Liveforlight, I was not targeting anyone in particular but comments were getting too personal and it seemed that listening and responding was starting to slide.

    Some comments seemed "out of the blue" as if they were just being copied and pasted, regardless of what had just been said. I hated to back out of the discussion I just figured I might as well wrap up my side of it. :-)

    -- Posted by stevemills on Tue, Aug 18, 2015, at 9:23 PM
  • I am not black and not a racist liveforlight.It is none of your business what race I am and it does not matter.I am of the only race in God's eyes that matter,the human race.Do you remember what Reagan said when asked about him selling weapons to Iran.His answer to every question was "I don't recall".Now he is held on a pedestal by republicans and considered a great president,was he faithful..Republicans want less government except when it comes to a womans body.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Tue, Aug 18, 2015, at 9:41 PM
  • Lets be real, I don't want to know what race you are and I agree, it does not matter.

    I surmised you were a black racist based on your history of posts, not only here but on other blog strings, consistently excusing behavior of blacks, female, and leftist while consistently attacking whites, males, and "right wingers".

    Republicans are no different than Democrats when it comes to growing government, except maybe some of them may SAY they want less government. But, that is not what they do. They have been sent to Washington many times, as they are now, to reign in the size of government, the waste and corruption. But they lack the character to stand for what they say, and then take part in the plunder. We now have $19 trillion dollars of debt. We have that much debt, because both parties are willing to partners to it.

    It is the ideologies that are of concern to me, not race, gender, political affiliation, etc.. If you believe the government should have more control, and support it when it takes more, then I am opposed to you and those ideas. I believe in individual rights and liberty and that the only just role of government is to prevent plunder, not perpetrate it, regardless of what face they put on it.

    I will end my posts here. But, I think you owe Steve a response on his questions above directed at you.

    Be blessed :)

    -- Posted by Liveforlight on Tue, Aug 18, 2015, at 10:59 PM
  • How many consensual relationships end in an out of court settlement with $850,000 going to the woman in exchange for her dropping the charges?

    -- Posted by quietmike on Wed, Aug 19, 2015, at 5:23 AM
  • Steve asked..."what makes you say the Republican Party is against equal pay for women?"

    During Obama's presidency republicans have blocked and filibustered everything they could. If Obama was for it, they were against it. This included veterans bills and even bills that they originally sponsored. The Paycheck Fairness Act was a bill to strengthen equal pay protections for women. Republicans blocked it 4 times. Because, you know. They wouldn't want it look like Obama did something good.

    And the hypocrisy of republicans always amazes me. They love to talk about Bill Clinton's affair.

    But they won't talk about how when Speaker of the House, Newt Gingrich, was spearheading the call for Clintons investigation and impeachment, that he was cheating on his own wife at the same time.

    And they are against abortion, but then support and vote for Congressman Scott DesJarlais, who also had an affair with one of his patients, got her pregnant, then encouraged her to get an abortion. Ah yes...Republicans...the party of "family values".

    -- Posted by Rocket Valentine on Wed, Aug 19, 2015, at 7:28 AM
  • No doubt the parties (all) have hypocrites. That does not (or should not) paint the whole party. But I am not crazy about being a member of ANY party.

    Regarding the passage and killing of bills, I have found it is always important to look at the "and" attachments. What else, was attached to the bill?

    It is rare that any bill does not have leaches attached, or wording that can be used for other purposes. If it was a clean, straightforward bill, then they were wrong to oppose it.

    -- Posted by stevemills on Wed, Aug 19, 2015, at 9:30 AM
  • The Equal Pay Act has outlawed sex discrimination in pay since 1963.

    But never to be satisfied with one set of laws liberals look to say hey look what obama did by passing a duplicate law, even if it accomplishes nothing.

    The "pay gap" is nothing but dog whistle politics, as the majority of the difference is based on the fact that moms are much more likely to leave work for children than are dads.

    But never one's to lose the opportunity to claim aggrieved status, liberals ignore facts and once again play the victim.

    -- Posted by quietmike on Wed, Aug 19, 2015, at 3:37 PM
  • Oh wow. I stand corrected. According to quietmike, The Equal Pay act back in 1963 ended all pay discrimination against women. Women have been earning the same as men for the last fifty years. You know those women...always whining about something. It was all just another hoax. Kinda like global warming and racism. Nothing to see here...move along.

    -- Posted by Rocket Valentine on Wed, Aug 19, 2015, at 6:48 PM
  • Possibly there are things that can't be legislated.

    If I compete with a woman and she is offered more money although we have the same basic background but she has the personality or charisma that is needed for the job, do I get to file a lawsuit?

    Would that employer really want me after I did that? Just wondering how that would be handled.

    -- Posted by stevemills on Wed, Aug 19, 2015, at 7:05 PM
  • In 1964 I had my second " Real Job " full-time serious. I made

    $ 1.00 an hour creating books with linotype. A few months into my job an efficiency expert spent some time measuring EVERYTHING and EVERYONE to decide the best way forward you know for efficiency..........I won...Hands Down....NO ONE could touch my score with regards to usable product in time frame. In my next review I asked how much the fellow who was hired AFTER me and scored BELOW me was making and I was told $1.10 an hour. I asked why? And was told....Because he has to pay for dates.......

    Excuse me......I was married and was putting my husband through college.........NOTHING has changed since.......

    Nothing has changed.......

    -- Posted by Palindrome on Wed, Aug 19, 2015, at 7:54 PM
  • Good job RV, you get bonus liberal points for completely missing the obvious.

    If it is already a federal law for men and women to get equal pay, and it isn't happening, that is an enforcement issue. Passing a duplicate law for this is analogous to the liberal stupidity of thinking a gun law will stop murders, when murder is already illegal.

    FWIW-do you know who the chief law enforcement officer was when obama was trying to pass Lily Ledbetter?

    -- Posted by quietmike on Thu, Aug 20, 2015, at 2:14 AM
  • Thanks for the bonus points Mike, but I'm afraid you still win the conservative trophy for being completely ignorant to the issue you're spouting off about.

    The Paycheck Fairness Act was not a duplicate law, but an amendment to the Equal Pay Act of 1963 that just updated it and made some critical changes that it needed.

    You see, sometimes we find that after 50 or 100 years, some laws or parts of our constitution may need updated with the current times we live in.

    It's the same with gun laws. When the second amendment was written we were only armed with single-shot muskets, not AK-47's.

    -- Posted by Rocket Valentine on Thu, Aug 20, 2015, at 7:30 AM
  • Good point RV about updating. Can you give us a quick overview of what "tweaks" we're proposed in the new bill?

    I admit that I am uninformed of those details.

    -- Posted by stevemills on Thu, Aug 20, 2015, at 8:05 AM
  • Sure Steve, here's a couple quick things I got from another website.

    Essentially, the Paycheck Fairness Act adds to the Equal Pay Act. While the Equal Pay Act prohibits gender-based wage discrimination, the Paycheck Fairness Act enforces that prohibition by requiring employers to be transparent about wage discrepancies, protecting employees who question wage gaps from workplace retaliation and helping to resolve wage disputes effectively and efficiently.

    -Requiring employers to demonstrate that wage differentials are based on factors other than sex;

    -Prohibiting retaliation against workers who inquire about their employers' wage practices or disclose their own wages;

    -Permitting reasonable comparisons between employees within clearly defined geographical areas to determine fair wages;

    -Strengthenig penalties for equal pay violations;

    directing the Department of Labor to assist employers and collect wage-related data; and

    -Authorizing additional training for Equal Employment Opportunity Commission staff to better identify and handle wage disputes.

    -- Posted by Rocket Valentine on Thu, Aug 20, 2015, at 8:49 AM
  • The Equal Pay Act of 1963 was a giant step forward for women and minorities in the workplace. But 50 years later, and women were still only making .75 cents to the dollar that men made for the same work. The Paycheck Fairness Act was brought forth to help out more

    -- Posted by Rocket Valentine on Thu, Aug 20, 2015, at 8:59 AM
  • Yes on no, wage discrimination was already illegal since 1963?

    Yes it was. If there was a legitimate wage gap, why can't liberals admit obummer and holder weren't doing their jobs in prosecuting these cases?

    As for AK-47s (love how liberals always use the default gun they've been indoctrinated to say) vs. single shot muskets, once again liberals demonstrate their complete ignorance.

    Rifles (as opposed to muskets) date to the 15th century, and repeating rifles were already in use at the time the constitution was ratified.

    As for the constitution not applying due to changing technology, it's quite hypocritical for you to make that claim with a computer on a news website protected by the 1st amendment, when the founders couldn't have possibly envisioned either, as they only could have meant typeset presses when they wrote that amendment.

    In the future submit your objections on parchment penned with a turkey quill.

    -- Posted by quietmike on Thu, Aug 20, 2015, at 12:52 PM
  • As usual, your arguments hold no water. It's not as if the wage gap between men and women suddenly appeared under the Obama Presidency. It's just being talked about more now because he's actually trying to do something about it.

    And are you really trying to say that weapons in the 1700's aren't much different than what we have today?

    These are your arguements?

    Weak.

    -- Posted by Rocket Valentine on Thu, Aug 20, 2015, at 4:57 PM
  • Well if women are making less than men then obviously it due to discrimination. That is the liberal mindset! More specifically, it is how politicians, from both parties, typically grab more power by creating a problem and then proposing a solution to the problem they create, which in reality, is a non-solution.

    The whole premise of this bill is that there is discrimination based on census info that men make more money than women. This, of course, plays right into our humanity in that we are all a little jealous of others who are making more than us, especially if we are doing the same job. This, in turn makes great political talking points to garner support from the target group(s).

    RV is most likely right that the GOP opposed it because the DEMs proposed it. The GOP will probably continue to oppose it until they can figure out a way to gain the political power from it instead of the DEMS. The reality of whether the income gap is caused by discrimination is irrelevant to them. Most likely the difference is based on the choices that men and women make, not their gender.

    The ideas being presented however is that employers must PROVE they are not discriminating. Because, well if the wages are unequal, then they must be guilty of discriminating, right?

    What then of unequal pay among two men, or two women, or any plethora of scenarios? Do we want the government to regulate all wages to make sure they are being "fair" to their employee(s)? Why not just make one labor rate that everyone must be paid regardless? That would fix it!!

    As a small business owner I can tell you that the amount of time already spent to meet government regulation and taxation requirements makes it hardly worth the effort. Adding the burden of proving I am not doing anything wrong, while not doing anything wrong, is just.. wrong.

    Read the debate here from women on this subject.

    http://www.usnews.com/debate-club/should-the-senate-pass-the-paycheck-fairness-a...

    -- Posted by Liveforlight on Thu, Aug 20, 2015, at 5:16 PM
  • Nice dodge as usual RV.

    If it is known with certainty that wage discrimination is happening, then the law to address it has been in place since 63.

    Instead of pushing new laws, enforce the one already on the books.

    Perhaps you can show where they tried holding an employer accountable under the old law, but it was ineffective, necessitating a reform?

    As for the guns, I said quite clearly that you were speaking from ignorance as single shot muskets were not the zenith of technology in weapons at the time the Constitution was written.

    But, in reality, that is irrelevant as the founders allowed citizens to own the equivalent, or superior weapons as used by the military.

    But truth usually doesn't jive with liberal talking points.

    -- Posted by quietmike on Thu, Aug 20, 2015, at 5:30 PM
  • If Trump becomes president will he deport Rubio and Cruz? Rubio benefited from birthright citizenship and now he is against it.Rubio's parents came here illegally and Cruz was not born in the US.Without the Hispanic vote republicans wont win.They now own the term "anchor babies".

    -- Posted by lets be real on Thu, Aug 20, 2015, at 6:04 PM
  • Ok, you got me. Anchor babies?

    -- Posted by stevemills on Thu, Aug 20, 2015, at 7:16 PM
  • If Bernie Sanders becomes President will the Democrats finally admit they are Socialists?

    -- Posted by Liveforlight on Thu, Aug 20, 2015, at 8:05 PM
  • If Donald Trump becomes President will the Republicans finally admit they are insane?

    -- Posted by Rocket Valentine on Thu, Aug 20, 2015, at 9:12 PM
  • Bernie Sanders defines HIMSELF as a Socialist.

    Apparently, GOP hating Democrats define THEM as insane.

    -- Posted by Liveforlight on Thu, Aug 20, 2015, at 9:25 PM
  • My personal pick for the GOP at this time would be Ben Carson.

    However, this blog is about the Democratic primary and it looks like Sanders is gaining ground. Of course, Gore and Biden could still throw their hats in the ring, but at this point it looks to be between Hillary and Bernie.

    Trump may be the ace-in-hold for the democrats as he dominates the media circus right now and diminishes Carson's chance of securing the nomination. Trump would also be a good choice for the PE to use to drive the final nail in Capitalism.

    I stand by my statement above and will let it go at that. It will end up being Hillary or Bush in the end.

    -- Posted by Liveforlight on Thu, Aug 20, 2015, at 9:40 PM
  • Sanders is promising the most freebies so i predict he will get the democrat nomination, no matter that he is a loon who said women fantsize about being raped or that cervical cancer is caused by a lack of orgasms.

    I can only hope their aren't enough whiny losers afraid to run their own lives that he wins the presidency.

    -- Posted by quietmike on Thu, Aug 20, 2015, at 10:19 PM
  • Ben Carson was a good surgeon,but now he acts like his brain is in slow motion.He also used tissue from aborted fetuses for medical research while critizing Planned Parenthood.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Fri, Aug 21, 2015, at 11:57 AM
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    First let me explain Women's rights to you! I am getting tired of hearing remarks about women don't have the same rights as men!

    The Declaration of Independence states that all men are created equal and are endowed with Inalienable Rights by their Creator.

    That means both men and women have the same rights (which are) We have the Inalienable Right to do anything we want to do without any interference from the government or anyone as long as we do not injure anyone, do property damage and keep our contracts.

    So all women have the right to do anything they want to without anyone telling them they can't or they have to. The only way you lose your rights is by voluntarily giving them up. It has been said many times before, "if you don't know what your rights are - you don't have any rights!

    To protect your rights you must act like the Sovereign you are and know how to protect your rights.

    -- Posted by sui on Mon, Aug 24, 2015, at 12:32 AM
  • What is the benefit to employers for hiring men if women can be had at .75 cents to the dollar for the same work?

    -- Posted by cortnerkin on Mon, Aug 31, 2015, at 8:30 PM
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    cortnerkin;

    It's called "Contracting"!

    If you agree to a salary when you are hired, that is your salary and you are probably very glad you got the job at that rate. If you need more or not happy with that wage - you have the right to refuse the offer and you can make a different offer that is more to your liking. The company owner or manager, etc. can accept your new offer or refuse your higher demand and no contract is reached. You are free to go and hunt somewhere else for your dream job.

    The way you have worded your question would appear to be discriminating against the men not the women! The employee would hire the women for less, telling the men to hit the road.

    But then the owner could hire the black who would work for less, taking the jobs away from both the white men and women. When you resign yourself to this, the Latinos come in at an even lower wage taking the jobs away from the blacks too.

    So now if you want to work at all, you have to settle for much less than the originally wage offer you turned down.

    The last straw is when the owners move their plants to Mexico or China where the labor is at its lowest, leaving all Americans out in the cold without any hope of getting a job.

    But it gets better! Let's force the businesses to raise the minimum wage to $10 or $15 an hour so we can really make some money.

    Here's what happens: Business owners have to pay much more for the person coming in off the street with no experience. Is that business owner going to hire a Latino or Black when he has to pay the top dollar? No! He or she is going the hire the most experienced and smartest person available for the job, man or woman.

    President Trump will put a stop to most of this by controlling the undocumented aliens and bringing jobs back to America. Trump has the knowledge, contacts, experience and Leadership to follow thru with what he proposes if elected.

    I understand what Trump is saying, what he will be doing and how he will get it done. No other candidate has the energy or knowledge to accomplish this.

    -- Posted by sui on Mon, Aug 31, 2015, at 10:05 PM
  • Sui do I understand it correctly that you are saying that blacks or latinos are not as smart or experienced as whites?Donald Trump would be a disaster for America if elected.He will insult all our allies with his racist language.After the latinos who will be his next target?Poor people in America are fools if they think Trump cares about them.Maybe when he becomes president he can place his third wife ,who is foreign born,nude pictures on the wall in the whitehouse.I wonder if he will deport the rich older as he calls anchor babies like Rubio and Jindal.Is he going to deport his anchor wife.He will not win without the latino or black vote and that is not happening.He is a hypocrite who had illegals working for him and has treated people badly in several bussines deals.He stated the Bible was his favorite book but could not quote 1 scripture.Is this the picture of a conservative Christian?

    -- Posted by lets be real on Tue, Sep 1, 2015, at 1:07 PM
  • I hope Trump keeps talking,he is a gift to the Democratic party.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Tue, Sep 1, 2015, at 1:11 PM
  • How would that be different than the nude pictures of obama's mom?

    -- Posted by quietmike on Tue, Sep 1, 2015, at 4:04 PM
  • Folks, this conversation is slipping. I don't have the ability to remove a statement. I can only remove the whole conversation. If it has degraded to pin-up barbs, the conversation will go away.

    -- Posted by stevemills on Tue, Sep 1, 2015, at 7:37 PM
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    No, lets be real, I am not saying the blacks and Latinos are not as smart and experienced as white people. We know they are smart. At least most of them are but you have several that I would question their stupidity. I am all for protesting, but robbing and looting and destroying and burning your very own town down because they are angry at the whites, doesn't sound smart to me at all. Neither does blacks driving by shooting their own black people and children. Protesting by shouting out kill the cops isn't very smart when it isn't protected under their civil rights.

    The Latinos are smart too. They work in bunches so they can get the job done quicker so contractors will hire them and not someone who has worked for years building his reputation and prices up to the cost of living. They all move in together in a small 2 bedroom house to save money on rent, utilities, water and transportation. Then they wire most of the money back to Mexico where it will buy more.

    I was referring to jobs.The blacks and Latinos who aren't working and need jobs aren't as smart as those who do have a job. Search you sources and you will find the unemployment is greater for blacks and Latinos. Latinos are limited to less jobs because they don't speak English which doesn't make them less intelligent just more handicapped.

    Donald Trump could never be as much of a disaster to America as Obama has been. And Hillary Clinton is just another Obama. Trump is the only candidate that knows what this country needs to recover and how to do it.

    You are worried about Trump insulting our Allies? What Allies? Obama and Hillary have already insulted all our allies to the point that our allies don't trust us nor want our help.

    There is a difference in racist and telling it like it is. The only white people making racist remarks are the white democrats. The rest of the racist remarks and actions come out of the mouths and souls of the black race.

    Anchor babies! Now that is a very appropriate name for them! I can get into another discussion about anchor babies if you want. It is assumed that any baby born in our country is a US Citizen. That is Sooooo far from the truth.

    (Any person born in the United States, [AND subject to its exclusive jurisdiction] is a US Citizen.) If you are born in the United States (Washington, DC or one of its territories) you would be subject to its exclusive jurisdiction, there by making you a US citizens subject to the laws of a corporation. You would not be able to claim your rights as the sovereignty. If you are born in one of the 50 states, you are a sovereign man or woman endowed with inalienable rights at birth. So, you see, not all anchor babies can be subject to its exclusive jurisdiction! That means the baby's father & mother may not be able to be citizens unless they come here legally.

    No one has ever challenged the Supreme court with this information, so they have never ruled on it absolutely. I feel Trump knows this and could challenge the Supreme Court as he has the money and lawyers to do it.

    Most of the Latinos in this country (before Obama invited all Mexicans, Central and South Americans into our country) are mainly legal Latinos who are losing jobs to these illegal aliens who will work for much less because they have to eat too.

    Because the majority of blacks and Latinos are legal law abiding citizens Trump won't have any trouble with black and Latino votes. You forgot to mention the Obama Care victims in your list of people who won't vote for him.

    My favorite book is the bible too, but I can only quote 1 verse, John 3:16.

    I believe I heard a lot of people arguing about a Mormon running for president in the last election and didn't think a Mormon would be a good president! The people jumped up and down on this very blog stating that violated church and state for a Christian to run for office.

    -- Posted by sui on Wed, Sep 2, 2015, at 1:31 AM
  • Trump made a ststement that he liked rich Mexicans,meaning he only cares about the rich.He is only concerned about getting richer.No he wont have any trouble with blacks and latinos,he just wont get their vote.No one can win the presidency without it.He is hurting the republican party.We will see how much he cares about the party if he is not nominated by the party.Trump only cares about Trump and he will split the republican vote.HE wants to put boots on the ground in Iran,lets start with his son. To sui there is stupidity in all races.It seems that some white americans have racial amnesia when it comes to riots in America.Burnings and rioting started long before 1960s and it was not black americans.Research the history of riots in America.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Wed, Sep 2, 2015, at 11:20 AM
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    All I can say, lets be real, is ask any Rich person if he/she likes poor people or rich people! They will tell you they only like rich people because poor people are complainers and not the same caliber as a rich person. How many rich people have you seen walking around with poor people by their side? NONE! They only associate with people who are rich because a poor person will not be able to improve the person.

    As far as any candidate getting votes from anyone is moot! Read the United States Constitution Article II Section 1, paragraph 3, and you can read how the President and Vice President are elected. It isn't by the votes of the people!

    Trump hasn't hurt the Republican party at all. He has woke them up as to what the people want from a president. Haven't you noticed the Republications have stood up and started speaking out about the same things Trump has spoken of? That's what I call, "Following the Leader"! It takes a leader to lead.

    Trump won't split the Republication vote, he will bring the republicans together for a better America.

    We don't need boots in Iran. We need boots in Iraq to extinguish the Isis. We can not put boots on the ground in any country until Obama is out of office because Obama would not back and support our Military on the ground.

    Yes, You are telling the truth about Sui believes there are stupid "Leaders" in every race. Look what they did in the last two elections. They put a man in office who can't lead anything but his democratic administration. He spent millions of dollars on investments in solar company that went bankrupt after they got the money, He sends Billions to Pakistan who was housing Osoma Bin and other known terrorists and couldn't even get the release of the doctor who helped Obama get Osoma Bin Laden, He's still in prison as far as I know. He gave Billions of dollars to the foreigner who created the Obama care website, then paid him another billion to rework it so it will work. It still doesn't work and Obama has hired the same man to build the website for the IRS who will be collecting your Obama Care Taxes.

    You want to go back to the past where it all started? The Africans sold their family members to the slave trader for money to make their life easier. The Americans didn't go over there and capture the slave or take them out of their homes. The Americans only purchased the slaves they could afford as workers for their plantations (kind of like what Businesses are doing today with illegal Mexicans that showed up here all over the states).

    Had the Black Slaves not been bought by American Businessmen, there is no telling what Country they would be Today or what kind of life they would be living there. It's for sure they would not be as free as they are here in America! The blacks should be glad that the Americans bought their ancestors because now they are a free people and living in the Best Country in the world. Or at least it was until Obama started destroying it.

    I have to admit that the slaves were mistreated by some Slave Owners and many young black women were raped by the whites.

    That is still going on today as sex slave trading and it is happening right here in America.

    I didn't have anything to do with slavery and neither did my parents nor did I ever burn any crosses in anyone's front yard. Front yard? What chu talkin about? You mean the Slaves had Front yards here in America when they got freed?

    What about the Peurto Ricans? I can remember they were living with the blacks and were discriminated against also but they survived it and today you don't hear anything about them. They just creates a little Havana and a Little Cuba and kept on keeping on.

    The blacks can't let it go. But the biggest racists is the US Government and they keep it going, so they can do their sneaky crap under our noses.

    Soon we will not be able to research the history! They are doing their best to eliminate any history of the black ever existing and the civil war never happened. There will be no Rebel Flags or confederate souvenirs or statues of civil war heroes.

    If you go back far enough you will find out that this country belonged to the Indians when we started coming over here in ships.

    There is nothing that I have ever read that explains how the Indians came over here in their canoes, but one day they just appeared here and guess what? The Federal Government drove them out west and in the mountains and put them on reservations.

    Then it became a white man's country, even though we all came from overseas somewhere. Our forefathers fought the British and won and ran the English out of our country and declared all white men are free and endowed with rights that no man can tell you what you can and can not do.

    Then the Slaves came and where bought and sold for the almighty dollar. Then the government freed the slaves so they could create a class of citizens that would be under its exclusive jurisdiction. The north freed the Slaves from the Southern states but not the Northern states. That came later with the Civil Rights.

    -- Posted by sui on Thu, Sep 3, 2015, at 12:06 AM
  • Without the slave buyers there would have no trade.Some was captured and took out of their homes.Some of them were kings and queens.Blacks should never let their history go.I am sure that those slaves would have rather stayed in their homeland than come to America to be killed,raped,beaten and separated from families.Their life in Africa could not have been any worse.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Thu, Sep 3, 2015, at 12:16 PM
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    Don't you even watch the news?

    Africans are being kidnapped and or murdered by the masses in Africa today by terrorists. More so, than in the Good Ol USA. That tells me there is still Slave trading going on in the third world countries today.

    If the Americans had not bought the slaves that they did, there would be no need for the 13th and 14th Amendments nor the Civil Rights Act.

    Those came about because of the Slaves. The north fought against slavery but kept them in slavery until the Civil rights Act Freed them from the North.

    The 13th Amendment reads;

    "Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction."

    Now... "Within the United States" means Washington, DC and its Territories and not the 48 states at that time. However there were Southern States that had rebelled against the US Government by fighting the civil war. They were considered the enemy to the US and so they were under its exclusive jurisdiction also. Therefore the US Government could free the slaves in those southern states. But it did not free them in the North.

    The Black Race today have never been slaves that I know of by American people. They are only descendants of the slaves but never were slaves themselves. In the past they got paid for their work. They had their own rest rooms water fountains and back doors to enter and leave buildings and they sat in the back of the buses. It took a long time to get where we are today, but there are a handful of black and white racists who want to keep the racists thing going.

    The Blacks are the people who must decide if they are happy living here or not. If they can't accept life as it is in America with the laws we have then they must determine if they want to continue in a Free America or go to jail for doing crimes, just like the whites do. Now if we can just get some kind control of the illegal aliens? Oh wait, Trump is going to take care of that!

    -- Posted by sui on Thu, Sep 3, 2015, at 1:31 PM
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    Can any Democrat explain to me why we even need a Planned Parenthood organization now that the "Obama Care Health Insurance Plan" is in full swing?

    Doesn't the "Obama Care Health Insurance Plan" cover women's Breast Cancer detection and treatment and their contraceptive devices to keep them sexually active?

    I thought the "Obama Care Health Insurance Plan" was the miracle Health Insurance Plan for Everyone, including even the poor woman who can't afford condoms and contraceptives and cancer screening tests along with miscarriages, pregnancies, dental, eye surgery, etc., etc..

    If it doesn't, why are all you Democrats fighting so hard to keep it? It's only costing you more money than you can come up with. It's costing everyone more money except me.

    I am against it because it was created by the government which is Federal legislation and only applies to Government Agencies and their employees, officers, officials and federal citizens. "All Federal legislation applies only to Federal Territories" unless you volunteer to get and use it.

    It was said to be "The Law of The Land", but actually it is "The Law of The Territory" and only applies within the Federal Territories.

    The supreme Court said it was legal because it was a Tax, so it isn't even a health insurance if it is a tax! If it is a Tax, then it is again a Federal Tax and is only applicable withing the Federal Territories unless you volunteer for it.

    It was also stated that it was an Executive Order! An Executive Order is an order by the executive president, just like the owner of McDonalds sending an (executive order) to his executive Officers. It doesn't apply to the customers only the business executives.

    -- Posted by sui on Thu, Sep 3, 2015, at 3:35 PM
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    Hey! When you guys researched your favorite past Presidents did you discover some of the things they did besides their sexual appetites and misconduct?

    You should go back and do some more research. Some of them done some pretty bad things that have helped to destroy what our forefathers created for us. Starting with President FDR and LBJ.

    -- Posted by sui on Thu, Sep 3, 2015, at 4:02 PM
  • We need planned parenthood because Tenn will not expand Medicaid.This will help poor working people of Tenn be able to afford insurance.Tennesseans has fewer options for health coverage than people in states where Medicaid is growing.The money Tenn is refusing is going to other states to insure people.When you make $7.00 an hour you cant afford insurance.Tennesseans are hard hearted enough to stop Medicaid expansion now they want to take away the only other option some people have.They would rather have these people die.And by the way blacks do go to jail for crimes they commited and many they did not.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Fri, Sep 4, 2015, at 12:29 PM
  • And another thing Trump wont take care of immigrants because he is not ever going to be president,not without the Hispanic or black vote.He will get less of their vote than Romney.Even the republicans are hoping he wont be nominated.And if he isn't he will go independent no matter what he says now.He reminds me of a kid in kindergarten who has a tantrum when he can not get his way.Sui how do you feel about Trump using Eminent Domain to take private property at big discounts for his own use?

    -- Posted by lets be real on Fri, Sep 4, 2015, at 12:52 PM
  • Lets be real once again you have an obviously racist bias. The black and Hispanic vote does not determine the winner. If you insist on accrediting race, then it is the white vote that determines the winner. Simply because the U.S. is overwhelmingly white. The 2013 census reports the U.S. is 77.7% white. This does include many Hispanics who consider themselves white. Without including this group of Hispanics, the rate is 62.6%, an overwhelming majority even if all other races vote one way. So, despite your obviously bias opinion, the fact is that no one can be elected without the white vote. This includes the current president.

    -- Posted by Liveforlight on Fri, Sep 4, 2015, at 8:08 PM
  • You are right Liveforlight,but the white vote will be split between both candidates when the president is elected.What party usually get about all the minority vote?I don't think it will be Trump.I hope he keeps talking and making a fool of himself.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Sat, Sep 5, 2015, at 10:51 AM
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    The more Trump talks, the more I like him and what he stands for. You wouldn't know this because you think the way Obama and Hillary think. They are liars and violate the laws of the United States as well as the US Constitution.

    Hillary will continue to do Obama's destruction of America if she is elected by the Powers To Be.

    She can not help the women because the women already have Unalienable Rights. They just don't know how to protect them and use them.

    I served in the Army Airborne thinking I was protecting my Country and the people's Rights. Boy was I wrong! When I saw the people vote Obama in for a second term I knew I had wasted my time in the Military Protecting people's rights that don't know anything about rights or their Constitution. I hate it when someone thanks me for serving in the Military. It's a slap in my face.

    No one can tell anyone what they must do or can not do. That is your unalienable right. If you make the wrong choice and violate someone else's right then you can be held liable, like Kim Davis, the court clerk in Kentucky.

    Obama has done much worse than Kim Davis, yet not one congressman can impeach him. President Clinton got impeached for just getting caught in a sex act in the Oval Office. Clinton must have thought it was the Oral Office!

    LBR, you need to realize that the blacks and Latinos are not stupid-> The majority of them have not seen Obama do anything for them and will vote for someone who isn't going to run the Country like Obama, "In the ground'.

    Obama didn't free any Mexicans or South, Central Americans. He is only making them Slaves to the Central Government and under its exclusive jurisdiction. They will be the new Taxpayers and court cases because with them come the drugs and crimes too.

    Tell me what president has ever done anything about American Companies moving out of the country to save on paying taxes. The only companies they talk about bringing into America are Mexican Trucking companies coming into America without having to have Licenses and Inspections. Like that is going to bring money into America? It's More like smuggling Mexicans, Central and South Americans and Drugs into America undetected.

    The biggest Fools I see are the Democrats who can't think for themselves, then Hillary who doesn't know anything about her job as the Secretary of the State, or how to delete emails with out a trace then lies about it. Then the Number One Fool is Obama. It's like the old saying, "You can fool all the Democrats all the time, and some of the Republication some of the time, but you can never fool all the Republication all the time!

    -- Posted by sui on Sat, Sep 5, 2015, at 1:39 PM
  • Lets be real you seem to imply that there is little or no split in minority votes which also is not true. Minorities do show more support for the Democrat party as big government is seen as benefactors. The GOP is not seen as the big government party, even though they are also. But, that is hardly the real factor in elections.

    The real factor is voter turn out. The voter turn out in the U.S is somewhere around 60%. This leaves around 40% who do not vote. The silent majority, as they are called, is the real key.

    This is the 40% who do not vote, and many who vote out of a sense of duty, but have only the choice of the lesser of 2 evils. There is serious distrust of all politicians and government in general.

    A candidate outside of a political career has a better chance of being able to motivate the silent majority into action. This is why Trump and Ben Carson are doing well in the polls. Democrats are predictable, they are going to vote for the one who they see as the most benevolent.

    -- Posted by Liveforlight on Sat, Sep 5, 2015, at 9:39 PM
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    Our forefathers knew the people were not informed enough to make an intelligent vote for a president and vice president so it devised a method of voting a president into office. There's a method for voting the vice president as well.

    Article II, Section 1, Clause 3, US Constitution.

    The President of the Senate shall, in the Presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the Certificates, and the Votes shall then be counted. The Person having the greatest Number of Votes shall be the President, if such Number be a Majority of the whole Number of Electors appointed; and if there be more than one who have such Majority, and have an equal Number of Votes, then the House of Representatives shall immediately chuse by Ballot one of them for President; and if no Person have a Majority, then from the five highest on the List the said House shall in like Manner chuse the President. But in chusing the President, the Votes shall be taken by States, the Representation from each State having one Vote; A quorum for this Purpose shall consist of a Member or Members from two thirds of the States, and a Majority of all the States shall be necessary to a Choice. In every Case, after the Choice of the President, the Person having the greatest Number of Votes of the Electors shall be the Vice President.

    NOTICE How the Government can't even follow these Laws either for voting in a Vice President?

    SO you see, Blacks and Latinos and other immigrants doesn't make any difference at all in who gets voted for President.

    Do any of you remember how President Bush was Elected President? Florida had to vote again by Electrorial Votes, because the State of Florida weren't smart enough to count the Electorial Votes correctly the first time and blamed it on the Florida population and the voting ballots. They made such an embarrassing deal out of it that they had to use electorial votes.

    I think it was only 21 votes that had to be counted, but the House couldn't count 21 votes accurately the first time.

    Jeb Bush who is running for President told his brother George, before the votes were counted, that he (George Bush) had won Florida. When the votes came out it was AL Gore with the most votes.

    That made George Bush mad so he demanded a recount. Then it got embarrassing for the whole State of Florida, who tried to get the supreme court to decide. The supreme court wouldn't rule on it because they were not going to get into this big embarrassing Fraud case.

    Florida came up with all kinds of lies as to why there was a miscount.

    Now how did Governor Jeb Bush know his brother won before the votes were counted? No one has ever questioned that except me! Florida couldn't trust the people to vote again and couldn't trust the people who were counting the votes to re-count the vote accurately. The Constitution doesn't have a clause that says the people are suppose to count the popular votes.

    All those stories you heard back then was to cover up their incompetence of making the people think their vote is counted.

    Do you really think only one State out of 50 states and only one time in the history of voting, a State could have machines that couldn't count the votes correctly without bend the cards etc., etc, and etc.?

    Well, guess what? The people all over the United States fell for it. One of the biggest lies ever told and the people fell for it. The people fell for it line hook and sinker so it didn't have to be covered up like all their other lies.

    Now do you see why our forefathers came up with the electorial Vote system. The people just aren't with the program!

    -- Posted by sui on Sun, Sep 6, 2015, at 11:25 AM
  • IMHO, it would be the saddest outcome for the politics of our nation to require voters electing a new President to choose between members of a family dynasty, whether named Bush or Clinton. Bush Jr was a disaster as a President in part because he sought to compete with his father, that is: to rectify the perceived mistake of Bush Sr in not toppling Saddam. Clinton proclaimed loudly when he was first elected that voters were getting 2-for-1, that is: that Hillary would be a sort of co-President. She was. Her behavior derailed all heath care plans in Congress in 1993 and 1994 and lead to downfall of the Democratic Party in Tennessee at least. IMHO, both Bush and Clinton are pandering bought and paid for egotists who do not care for the public interest or the common good. They are out for themselves. This is why Sanders and Trump succeed. This is why Biden should enter the race if he has any of the respect he says he has for the good of our nation.

    -- Posted by zzoop on Tue, Sep 8, 2015, at 9:56 AM
  • Thanks for bringing us back to the original intent of the post zzoop. I hope more will discuss VP Biden as a candidate.

    Not because I am for the man, but because I really know very little about him recently. The VP often becomes obscured by the President. (I am not talking specifically about Obama and Biden, but in general)

    -- Posted by stevemills on Tue, Sep 8, 2015, at 10:57 AM
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    The democratic party is stuck with Bernie Sanders.

    Hilliary is a liar, criminal and knows absolutely nothing about every job she has ever had. When questioned by congress she knew absolutely nothing about her job as the Secretary of State.

    She accepted her pay check for doing her job, which was doing nothing and knowing nothing. Isn't that FRAUD when you get paid but don't do anything in return for the money? But then she didn't know what to do, or so she told congress she didn't know anything about what was going on in her office. That must be the new Democratic Presidential Qualification. It seems like all the Government agencies are pulling that excuse.

    She stood with Your Pres. Obama and lied about Benghazi and didn't know it was a terrorist attack while they watched it happen in real time.

    Just so you know... Hilliary confessed everything on Greta Van Susteren show in an interview. She explained perfectly to me as I watched the show that night.

    Hilliary and Greta are close friends so they both opened up more than they should have. Hilliary explained that that was a very dangerous Time and place because they were smuggling weapons in North Africa. She slipped and said the CIA was there to make sure the weapons didn't go to Syria, when actually that is were the US was sending them.

    If Obama had intervened with the attack on Benghazi it would have blown their cover operation on weapon smuggling in North Africa that night. They chose to sacrifice Benghazi than tell the world what they were really doing. They blamed it on a video of all things! Case closed on Benghazi.

    Of course the Democrats love Obama so they will love Hilliary too because she is just like him.

    Pres Obama's favorite saying is "I didn't know about it until I saw it on the News". What kind of Leader is that? The president has to get his information from Fox News? I say Fox news because the other news media doesn't cover news stories of interest and when they do it is a Fox make over. They only twist what Fox says and reports nothing on their own. They just steal Fox's stories and change them to say what they want to without any proof.

    Hilliary on the other hand would be better than Obama because she has learned how to run the Country on just two cell phones and a home email server. She could run the country much easier from her home email account and save all that taxpayer money of turning the lights on in the White House. She wouldn't even have to leave her home to run the country and could just email diplomats instead of flying in those expensive Air Force One planes that cost Taxpayers millions of Dollars.

    Obama always phoned the foreign leaders, but he still managed to take 4 planes to Hawaii, because his wife couldn't fly on the same plane with him.

    As for Vice Pres Biden, where was he during all the Benghazi Attack? Where was his voice in the matter. Just another Democrat following another democrat. They can't even follow a winner. They just follow each other. The Blind leading the blind. What a life that must be to follow the crowd and not even know why!

    Why didn't soft speaking, Joe Biden say anything about the lies or the cover up?

    If you elect him as the President, Who in Hell is he going to follow as the President who is suppose to lead?

    Okay, now the Republications! They only want to tell you they will do a better job than the others, but don't know what the others would really do if elected.

    Now you take Trump. There's a man who knows what needs to be done and how to do it and has the resources and contacts to do it. Trump has opened the eyes of the Republican runners and got them opening up about some of the things this country needs.

    I figure Trump can not hurt America any more than Obama. Anything Trump could do in 8 years would better the Country. It will take someone like Trump who has the energy and back bone to undo the things Obama has screwed up for us. Just any ol candidate will NOT be able to undo the damage done to America. It will take Trump 4 years just to straighten out the mess the Country is in. I just don't see any other candidate having the smarts and energy to do what will be required to clean up America and put it back in shape.

    All poking aside - I don't know if Trump will last 8 years! Trump is a rich man and will try to make America Rich again.

    The Powers To Be who had Pres. Lincoln and Pres. Kennedy assassinated for trying to create money and cutting the bankers out of their control over the money market will not let Trump mess up their money monopoly if he gets too powerful with his money making feats.

    I would still put my money and vote on Trump!

    There just isn't anyone else in the race to vote for if you want America Back the way it was.

    I don't think any of the republicans except Carly Fiorina and Trump could even beat Hilliary, not that she won't be in prison by then

    -- Posted by sui on Tue, Sep 8, 2015, at 12:57 PM
  • Are we going to have as many hearings on emails as we did on Benghazi? We wasted time and tax money on Benghazi and found no smoking gun.The email story will turn out just like the other republican conspiracy theories and go nowhere.When you say America back the way it was what does that mean?Women will not vote for Fiorina,who is against the paid maternity law.Some on here seem to think Fiorina and Trump can win without the blacks,hispanics and women.If Romney had got 44% of the Hispanic vote he would be president.Fiorina and Trump will get even less than Romney.Trump or Fiorina will never be president.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Tue, Sep 8, 2015, at 6:48 PM
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    Lets be real,

    Just what the hell has Hilliary Clinton promised to do the get this country going again? What is she going to do to help the woman? What is she going to do the help the economy? What is she planning to do to help the unemployed? What is her plans for undocumented immigrants? Now we will have even more undocumented refugees to deal with. What has Hilliary said she would do to help these refugees and what will she do with them? How is Hilliary going to deal with Iran if the idiots elect her? Will she keep Obama's plan that only helps Iran become a stronger terrorist Country or does she have something up her sleeve that she can make up a another lie about? She told congress she didn't know anything about Benghazi except some poor American citizen made a video that made the terrorist mad enough to "RIOT". She as well as Obama didn't even know it was a Terrorist Attack until the people told them.

    Has she told you who she is going to Follow if she is elected, because she can not do anything right on her own. Even Bill Clinton won't come out in her defense.

    Now that Hilliary said she is sorry, the Democrats can pull the wool back over their eyes.

    Oh she doesn't know just how correct she is when she said she was sorry. The republications have been telling her that for years!

    Bringing America back where it was is bringing Republicans and democrats together without all the hatefulness. Removing all the idiots from office. Taking away the differences between the people so we can stand together again as a winning Country with people who have their pride back and can be proud of their leaders.

    It's not even Safe anywhere in this Country with Obama as the President, for a Policeman to walk the streets today. The Black Lives Matter Organization has put verbal contracts out on every law enforcement officer in the United States with nothing said about it by President Obama or any of our leaders or Presidential Candidates except Donald Trump.

    Republican Candidates? I don't have much faith in most of them either.

    Look at what Kim Davis did, the Kentucky clerk who Violated the Rights of the Gay Couple as a government employee or officer! She can be sued and criminal charges brought against her. If she is so religious that she must obey God's law over Government Codes, rules and regulations then she should NOT sit down at the Devils table.

    And look who ran to her aid? A Presidential Candidate, Governor Huckabee, a preacher, who doesn't understand how the Constitution works! And neither does Rand Paul who spoke out against her arrest. I thought Rand Paul understood the constitution. Guess not. But then neither does anyone in Congress who are suppose to protect the Constitution.

    The constitution does NOT give anyone or any women any rights. It is a contract with the Federal government and the States that they can not Violate any rights that you are able to claim you have AND Not interfere with your Life, Liberty and Pursuit of Happiness.

    Anyone who does not know what the constitution is and means doesn't have any business being the President.

    As for Hilliary's emails, I think that is coming to an end.The FBI is looking into the emails, so that tells me there IS SOMETHING about the emails that require looking into. The FBI doesn't get involved in most cases concerning high up people unless there is a reasonable suspicion.

    I believe the Blacks have had enough of Obama's lies. He hasn't done anything for them except stir up racism between blacks and whites and now the Latinos to the point some blacks want to kill any and all law enforcement officers.

    BIG MISTAKE

    Don't they know President Obama can declare Martial Law and then there is no law except Martial Law which you can not protect yourself from. You are a Slave to the Military with no constitutional rights. Also if that happened Obama could remain in office as a dictator until he rescinded Martial Law, which he would never do because he has fired military Officers who won't do what he wants done.

    Not only would the blacks go back into slavery working for free for the government but so would the whites, Unless Trump or someone with his intelligence, energy, self assurance, patriotism and leadership gets in office first.

    When you VOTE think about the Tennessee Lottery! You get a ticket but the Winning Ticket has already been printed and held for the right moment to be announced.

    Oh and remember this when you VOTE: The President of the United States IS a PUBLIC SERVANT, not the most powerful man in the world like some Fox News Hosts claim!

    He may be a God in Washington, District of Columbia over Federal Citizens, but he's just a Public Servant to the Sovereign People!

    -- Posted by sui on Wed, Sep 9, 2015, at 4:09 PM
  • I thought I heard Unique Lies speaking???

    -- Posted by Blessed Assurance on Wed, Sep 9, 2015, at 6:24 PM
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    I heard he got band from the blogs

    -- Posted by sui on Wed, Sep 9, 2015, at 11:04 PM
  • Hence the new name.

    -- Posted by Blessed Assurance on Thu, Sep 10, 2015, at 7:41 AM
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    I don't know you and don't care to question your thoughts on your own personal matters! If you have any questions on the topic being discussed I will gladly engage any thoughts you have.

    -- Posted by sui on Thu, Sep 10, 2015, at 12:08 PM
  • Hey don't tense up on me.

    I am just glad to see you are living and able to communicate with the world.

    Joy and great blessings to you my friend.

    -- Posted by Blessed Assurance on Thu, Sep 10, 2015, at 6:43 PM
  • Our country has been safer under Obama than Bush.Remember 9/11 under Bush or was that Obamas fault?If it happened under Obama republicans would have thrown him out of office.Many terrorist plots have been thwarted and many terrorist leaders killed in last 7 years.Hillary knows more about foreign policy than all the republican candidates combined.Americans still remember the great economic growth under Bill Clinton.Trump has no clue about foreign affairs,he stated he gets his information from TV.He is like a school kid who pouts and say mean things when no one will play with him.He even lies about who is supporting him.If he wins the nomination or lose he will destroy the republican party.He is a narcissist.Trump will not be a public servant to anyone.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Sat, Sep 12, 2015, at 12:36 PM
  • Our country safer under Obama than Bush? Tell that to the more than twice dead soldiers families under Obama than Bush. After 9/11 there were zero attacks in the U.S. under Bush. Since Obama there have been numerous attacks inside the U.S., not to mention the attacks in Benghazi that lead to the murder of our ambassador. Then there is the attacks on police officers by Black Lives Matter people, and,, Farrakhan inciting crowds to kill white people and "burn this MF down". Yet, none of these groups are labeled hate groups by the South Poverty Law Center and Obama says nothing????

    There has been an explosion of gun sales under Obama. Evidently, people are so in fear for their safety that they have taken upon themselves to carry arms in order to provide for their own safety.

    Then, lets not forget the thousands of illegal aliens from God only knows where. Then, there is the fast and furious debacle that led directly to the killing of our border control agents.

    Maybe it is the swell deals Obama has made that makes you feel safer. Like the Bergdahl deal, where 5 terrorist were released in exchange for one soldier who is now charged with desertion and misbehavior before the enemy.

    Now, he is ready to let Iran who calls us "the great Satan" and says that "Israel will not exist in 25 years" have nukes and 100 Billion dollars!! We didn't even get our prisoners returned on that deal!

    Now, he wants to bring another 10,000 Syrian refugees here, with no way to screen them.

    Yeah, people were feeling real safe too when Clinton let Osama Bin Laden go before 9/11. If you think the U.S., or the world for that matter, is safer now than before Obama you must be living in the fantasy world of the liberal media because the evidence is quite to the contrary.

    -- Posted by Liveforlight on Sat, Sep 12, 2015, at 6:31 PM
  • Bush stated that Osama Bin Laden was not a priority for him.The dead soldiers came from the war Bush started.What attack have we had inside the US to equal to 9/11?Black lives matter is not a hate group.There would be no need for The Black Lives Matter people if black lives HAD MATTERED.It means black lives matter also.White people have never been oppressed.The reason America has more murders is because of bad gun laws.Compare us to the rest of the world as far as gun deaths.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Sun, Sep 13, 2015, at 2:37 PM
  • The war may have started under Bush but More soldiers died under Obamas leadership. That is his fault, not Bushes. Thank God we have not had another attack like 911 since then, But to the ones who have died since, and their families, it is just as devastating. Perhaps you can convince the victims of the Boston Marathon bombing, or the Chattanooga shootings that they are safer under Obama.

    Black lives matter needed?? Targeting police and chants of "Pigs in a blanket, fry them like bacon" is hate speech! You think we need that?

    White people NEVER oppressed? Sure they have, and still are in many places! I assume you mean as an entire race. If so, then no, except in certain parts of the world. But then, neither have blacks, as even during slave times in this country blacks in other parts of the world were not oppressed. So, you must mean specifically in this country, which whites have been also, maybe not to the extent as blacks, but they have also been oppressed by governments and rich people. It would seem you think Black Lives Matter is needed to oppress white people in some sort of twisted logic to bring about equality. Return evil for evil. Is that it?

    The murder rates in the U.S. are going up in major U.S. cities for a number of reasons all within the last year, even though gun sales in prior years were higher. St.Louis has seen a 60% increase. I suppose Ferguson had nothing to do with that?

    But, you said we are safer under Obama. Gun sales have spiked, police are reluctant to patrol because of being targeted, families are broken, laws are ignored broken, all under Obamas leadership. You can't say we are safer and then just say the reason we are not, is gun laws. We are either safer, or we are not, you can't have it both ways!

    Black lives do matter, as does every life. If racism is to be eliminated, then the division of race must stop being exploited to justify evil actions regardless of who the perpetrators are.

    This doesn't even begin to address the in-flux of immigrants with unknown allegiances.

    Saying we are safer does not make it so. The overwhelming evidence is that we are not!

    -- Posted by Liveforlight on Sun, Sep 13, 2015, at 9:31 PM
  • Sorry Steve, I know this is way off topic. But I found a bit of info on gun murders that might be of interest.

    There is often media reports of the U.S. having the highest gun murder rates in the world. That is not true. The "Americas" has the highest murder rate in the world.

    This Wikipedia has a decent map that shows the rates here:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

    The US does not have the worst firearm murder rate - that prize belongs to Honduras, El Salvador and Jamaica. In fact, the US is number 28, with a rate of 2.97 per 100,000 people.

    With the increase of immigrants from Latin and south America, it would be logical to expect the murder rate to climb to be more in line with the countries they are migrating from.

    -- Posted by Liveforlight on Sun, Sep 13, 2015, at 10:01 PM
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    I will only say this for now!

    Obama said he was going to accept another 10,000 Syrian refugees in the coming year!

    Do you see how the lies begin?

    Germany has over 800,000 Refugees coming to Germany and America is only accepting 10,000?

    What's wrong with that remark?

    The United Nations is the one who determines where these refugees go and what country they go into and how many.

    The United Nations has already sent several HUNDRED THOUSANDS of Syrians and others from the Middle East into the United States. Most of which went into the North Eastern States where you heard of terrorist going back to Syria to fight with Isis. The same refugees we brought in have many who went back to fight with Isis.

    These are ALL Muslims! They are not bringing any Christians who are being murdered in the Middle East to America, only Obama's Muslims.

    It would appear to me that Black Lives DON'T Matter after all! Neither do white lives! Only Muslim lives matter in this Country. The Muslim Acceptance Prayer is being Taught to seventh graders in Maury County Public Schools here in Tennessee! A Mandatory teaching.

    -- Posted by sui on Mon, Sep 14, 2015, at 1:25 PM
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    lets be real, I watch a lot of News on TV and I see Civilians walking around in those foreign Countries with "Surface-to-air" Missile Launchers and Shoulder mounted Rocket Launchers, Grenade Launchers and the likes with automatic Rifles and they just shoot them in the air or around corners without even looking, and you say America has a gun control problem?

    Before Obama takes our arms from us, I think all the foreign countries should remove all the weapons of mass destruction from the hands of the people over seas.

    America has all the gun control laws that the constitution allows. These gun control laws apply to federal citizens and not the sovereign people who have a right to bear arms.

    If Black Lives Matter then congress should past a gun control law that would remove the guns from the hands of the Black people who get shot when they wave them around and shoot at people.

    As far as the idiots go, well you are just always going to have idiots. There is just no cure for Stupid! Look at our leaders and you can see that!

    -- Posted by sui on Mon, Sep 14, 2015, at 1:42 PM
  • Anyone who waves a gun and shoots at people should get shot regardless of color.Congress should pass a law that makes it illegal for policemen to shoot unarmed people for MINOR offenses.I forgot that is already a law, its called murder.People call Obama a muslim,so what if he was, some of our presidents were not even Christian.Where is the proof that Obama is taking our guns?Sui you must get your news from Faux about teaching muslim prayer in schools.All cultures need to be taught in school and not just about one race,which was the case when I went to school.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Tue, Sep 15, 2015, at 12:45 PM
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    Being a Muslim isn't so bad. We don't get to choose who we are when we are born. However, selling our country out to Muslim Countries isn't a very nice thing to do.

    Anyone who wants to Learn the Muslim Jihad Religion

    should go to one of the Muslim mosques, not to an American School where no religion is suppose to be taught.

    If it is a separation of church and state to teach religion in school then why is Jihad religion taught in American schools?

    Oh I know why, to create Home Grown Terrorist who are Atheist turned Jihad.

    The State, County, City, School Superintendent, School Board and Teachers should all be arrested and charged with violation of Church and State and for teaching 7th graders that it is okay to kill anyone who is not a jihadist or a Muslim.

    That doesn't come under free speech, but under conspiracy to teach innocent children to plan and commit crimes against American People, which the last time I looked that was treason against America and Americans.

    This isn't just a religion they are teaching. It is the Prayer to denounce Christ and accept the Jihad Allah as their God.

    That is Blasphemy against our God and Religions.

    Cultures should be taught in school so the Children can make a reasonable decision about what the culture stands for.

    I also agree with you that Cops should be charged with Murder if they shoot an unarmed man, woman or child.

    I have several sources for getting my News.

    Who is Faux? I watch Fox not Faux!

    People who call Obama a Muslim are correct. Obama had a Muslim Dad. His Step father was a Muslim also. That means his mother was a Muslim also because women are forced to join the Muslim Religion or they are killed just like a white person.

    Obama was taught the Muslim Religion and knows the Muslim Language and went to Muslim Mosques.

    Obama said when he got elected that the United States has never fought the Muslims and it never will AND if it comes down to it, Obama confessed he would side with the Muslims.

    He has proved that over and over again every year he has been in office.

    Obama supports them and send them Billions of U.S Dollars each year to help them with their terrorist strikes.

    As for Obama killing Terrorist leaders, look at the cost to kill each one. He uses a Million dollar drone to kill one person. Pretty expensive when he could just allow the pilots to bomb them in their air raids instead of sending them back without dropping any bombs.

    -- Posted by sui on Tue, Sep 15, 2015, at 2:30 PM
  • Fox is referred to as Faux news because that's what it is ,fake news. They are not even real reporters,just talk show host.First you complain that he is not killing enough terrorist, now it was to expensive,and you want bombs dropped on innocent people to do it.If history is told correct Obamas legacy will be a great president.If they are teaching 7th graders to kill anyone in Tenn that is not a muslim, it would be on every local news station and newspaper.Obamas term is almost up lets talk about Trumps faith.Why are Christians ready to accept him with his track record.He cheated on his WIVES and made a lewd remark about his own daughter, not your typical family values person.They were willing to impeach Clinton for less.Trump even stated he has never asked God for forgiveness because he hasn't made any mistakes.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Tue, Sep 15, 2015, at 9:39 PM
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    It amazes me just how Brain Dead the IDIOTS are in America! I said I watch Fox not Fake news! There is a differences. I also never said anything about believing what Talk Show Hosts have to say. I said I watch the news. I am smart enough to know what is the truth and what isn't without paying any attention to Talk Show Hosts, especially the Hosts on MSNBC!!

    These MSNBC Hosts can't even come up with their own News Reports. They have to wait until Fox gives the News then tell their listeners that Fox is lying about what is happening. I don't think MSNBC has any reporters in the field trying to find out what is going on in the world. They watch what CNN tells them and runs with their stories. That is so LAME!

    And they are not reporting on any stories that MSNBC came up with because they don't come up with any news reports of their own.

    It's true, most Talk Show Hosts on Fox News are not real reporters to the best of my Knowledge. They only talk about what the reporters have sent in to the Station.

    Also I have noticed that a lot of the hosts and guests on Fox News are Lawyers, Prosecutors, Defenders, Judges and retired Federal Judges. I catch all of them in their version of the law that they are speaking of that makes no sense at all.

    You see - - Lawyers and Judges go to Law Schools that only teach "The Color of Law" which is unjust, unlawful and unconstitutional unless applied to Brain Dead Americans, Government Employees and Federal Citizens. The Supreme Law of the Land is Common Law - law made in pursuance to the U.S. Constitution. The Color of Law is constitutional only by Article I, Section 8, Clause 17 where it gives congress the right to make any needful laws governing the 14th amendment citizens, But NOT the People.

    I have caught all of them telling the wrong Defacto Law. But then they were never taught the Supreme Law of the Land. The Supreme Law of the Land tells the Governments they can not violate the rights of the people to Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness.

    Why on earth do you want to talk about anyone's faith? I understood that there is a separation of Church and State. Every time a Christian wants to do anything, the courts rule in favor of the Atheist or the Muslim's Shariah Law. Look at how things are today. Don't you see these things happening on your MSNBC News media.

    This Presidential race isn't about Religious values or Family Values. It's all about getting someone in office who can make our country safe from Terrorists and invading undocumented immigrants, Better Economy, New Jobs and Pride in being an American.

    If our leaders were not afraid of losing the easy cushioned jobs, they would have impeached Obama in his first term when he started violating the U.S. Constitution and doing things without the consent of congress.

    And if you were smart, you would see that Africa will be the next country trying to come to America for the benefits. Africans have been leaving Africa for years seeking refuge from the Muslim Terrorists. Most have migrated to Europe but it is just a matter of time before they come here.

    WAIT A MINUTE! Didn't the Africans come over here before in boats and become Slaves? What do you think would happen to thousands of Black Africans who are dropped off in America without any help, jobs, or homes. They would do anything for money, food or benefits. Isn't that what slavery is? Will Slavery start all over again if they come to America? What do you think the Muslims from Syria are going to do here? Who is going to take care of them? How will they feed themselves without any jobs available to them. And then more immigrants from Africa coming to America???

    Not to worry about the Presidential Election. We have 538 people who will elect our President in 2016 and it has nothing to do with your vote, so we have no idea who will be the real President of The United States. The Electoral Voters don't have to vote according to the popular vote if hey don't want to. So.....?

    You have to do more research than what you have ever done before to know what is going on in America.

    Your life on this planet is just a GAME! You are a Game piece and you don't even know it. You don't know what the rules of the GAME is, so how can you play it? You are in the GAME and don't know it because you don't know what is going on around you. You are only interested in what the Government throws up in your face to argue about which is usually RACIST!

    Ok, Obama sends several planes out to bomb the Isis in Iraq. He only has them bomb our own equipment that Isis took from the Iraqis. After each bombing mission it was told that the bombing mission was a success and 3 people were killed. WHAT? Several planes bombed Isis and less than 100 Isis were killed? Then we find out that the pilots were not allowed to drop bombs on the targets they were told to bomb. They fly back with all their bombs.

    For all you Brain Dead Americans let me explain Isis to you!

    They force everyone to convert to Jihad Religion or they are killed or they are told to leave their homes and towns or pay a Tax they can not afford to pay, so they leave. Many are shot down as they try to leave. The people who do not leave are NOW--- ISIS also. They do whatever Isis tells them to do like strap bombs to their bodies and walk into the enemies camps or towns and explode their bombs they are carrying.

    So, how do you come up with innocent people??????? Those innocent people will kill you in a heart beat if you approach them.

    Several women have escaped to tell of the horror they went thru and what other women went thru when they were captured by Isis, They all said it would have been better to be killed by USA Bombs than live under Isis rulership.

    So you SEE - - Your innocent People are Isis also. You bomb Isis and their followers or members of Isis because they are Isis terrorist also. The women gladly become wives to the Fighters to save their lives and are passed on to the next fighter if one is killed or they are sold as sex slaves to ????. And I am talking about women and young girls not old women.

    If history is told correctly, Obama will go down in History as being a traitor to the USA. He has not done anything for this country worth bragging about. He has destroyed everything that America Stands For. Hilliary Clinton has not done anything good for the country either.

    If a seventh grader accepts Allah as his/her Lord and Savior, (s)he has just become a Jihadist Muslim because that is a religion. They may not be Islam or Middle Eastern but they are a Muslim by faith. If they believe they way they are taught - we know very well what the Jihadist Muslims believe. Anyone who is not a Jihadist Muslim must convert or die. Do any of you Brain Dead Americans not know this?

    -- Posted by sui on Wed, Sep 16, 2015, at 8:20 PM
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