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Bedford Ramblings
Steve Mills

How do they do it, is it legal and if so WHY?

Posted Wednesday, October 7, 2015, at 8:10 PM
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  • A good number if these don't even have anyone on the other end. What is the purpose of that, to see if the number is live?

    -- Posted by stevemills on Wed, Oct 7, 2015, at 8:11 PM
  • For most of the calls that we have been receiving, mostly 4-5 a day, they are illegal. Debt Relief, Card Member services, and so on. We just let the answering machine deal with it. But lately, it's been so annoying with the Ben Carson calls 3 times a day, which are legal because it is political, we've decided to entertain them with music. We answer the phone and leave it by the radio. They normally hang up pretty quick. Since we've been entertaining them, the calls have started to slack off. I do try and add them to my call block feature through Charter. But they can spoof the numbers. I've even had the caller ID to show my name and number.

    -- Posted by NikkiD on Thu, Oct 8, 2015, at 9:31 AM
  • Luckily, I don't think I have been getting political yet. but, I am not sure since I too hang up pretty quickly.

    So how do they spoof the number? Surely that cannot be legal?

    -- Posted by stevemills on Thu, Oct 8, 2015, at 9:35 AM
  • I don't know how the spoof works. I'm not tech savvy. But, yes it is illegal and they companies have been fined and shut down several times by our government. Most of the companies are located in Canada. They just bounce back with a new name and different location.

    -- Posted by NikkiD on Thu, Oct 8, 2015, at 6:20 PM
  • Just like a fax sound, wouldn't it be nice to feed something back that scrambles their computer? If a human is already on the line, or it is someone you want to talk to, all they would get is a gurgled sound,(not one to hurt their ears).

    But oh, the satisfaction of knowing you just ruined their day like they ruined yours. :-)

    -- Posted by stevemills on Fri, Oct 9, 2015, at 8:20 AM
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    I have had 3 answering machines ruined by these computer calls. I believe they use computers to call your number then have the nerve to ask you to wait until someone can come to the phone. I hang up on them.

    The first ones in the past have overpowered my answering machines and made them useless. The answering machines won't answer calls nor record messages.

    I usually just don't answer my phone anymore. When I do and they tell me I have won something, I make them think I am jumping up and down and so excited that I am about to have a heart attack because I won , I mean I actually won a Trip to the Bahamas or a 3 night 4 day Holiday to?

    Boy do they hang up immediately. Another trick I use is I tell them I am only renting and that ends the call. They don't even tell me what they are calling me for.

    Another of my favorites is, "I am unemployed and don't have a job, any money or time! Whatever they are looking for? They don't even thank me for my time.

    It doesn't do any good to report them to any one because there is nothing they can or will do about it.

    -- Posted by sui on Sun, Oct 11, 2015, at 11:33 AM
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    They are all illegal but the law only arrests innocent people because the courts can win over innocent people. To go after illegals is almost impossible to catch and convict unless it is just One Large Ring do it.

    -- Posted by sui on Sun, Oct 11, 2015, at 11:36 AM
  • My phone rang the other day and showed up my own name and number.When I asked how they did this I never got a straight answer.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Mon, Oct 12, 2015, at 7:42 PM
  • I guess it is just as well that some techie does not tell us how it is done but I sure would like to turn the tables.

    I just realized that I get a call from a persistent sales person who i have developed a casual friendship with and he comes in on a local number.

    He said his network is doing it. Next time I have to push more but surely these folks do not have servers in some of the small towns from which I get calls. Chritsiana? Come on.

    -- Posted by stevemills on Mon, Oct 12, 2015, at 9:19 PM
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    Everything is a game and we don't have the playing instructions. Watch "The Wizard of Oz".

    -- Posted by sui on Wed, Oct 14, 2015, at 5:32 PM
  • I am glad to say that our annoying calls have disappeared since I started entertaining them. I haven't had a call since Wednesday. And that was the "computer virus" scammer. So, I sat the phone down on speaker and clicked a song on my music player which happened to be an Nsync song. And he listened to the whole song. Every now and again I would hear him saying something non-English either Indian or Arabic and then shout "Enough with the music." When Nysnc went off, Phil Collins came on since the music player is on shuffle. He stayed on the line for almost 4 minutes until I hung up on him. And since then ..... nothing. It doesn't cost me any money for answering, but it cost his company. So why not have fun with it.

    -- Posted by NikkiD on Sun, Oct 18, 2015, at 7:03 AM
  • Now that is interesting. Can the individual person not hang up the line? Oooh, that would be nice.

    -- Posted by stevemills on Sun, Oct 18, 2015, at 8:19 AM
  • I'm pretty sure they can hang up. But their job is to scam as many people as they can.

    -- Posted by NikkiD on Mon, Oct 19, 2015, at 11:54 AM
  • I've had some new ones hitting my cell phone in the past week. They call from a restricted number (six times in ten minutes the other day) and swear there is an important legal matter that requires my attention. They have left a couple of messages and when I google the number, there are reports of them claiming to be various companies and they've even said they are the FBI before. They are supposedly collecting on an old debt and threatening to take away cars, homes, etc. In fact, the last voice mail left on my phone actually said "If you are the owner or driver of the 2012 Nissan Frontier, plate number [redacted], please contact our office immediately." Now, here's my big problem with this call - they did not use my legal first name. NONE of my financial or otherwise legal business is carried out under my middle name, Leah, although that is the name I use on a daily basis. Second, the information they did provide is easily accessible through public records, internet searches, etc. Nice try, sleezeballs. Move on.

    -- Posted by LeahTN79 on Tue, Oct 20, 2015, at 11:28 AM
  • I got one of the calls like that before, it's been about a year or two. But when I got fed up with it, I answered the phone stating "Thank you for calling the Church of Satan. How may I direct your call today?" They've never called back, lol.

    -- Posted by NikkiD on Tue, Oct 20, 2015, at 12:03 PM
  • HAHA NikkiD, I love that idea. I could always try answering with "Westboro Baptist Church" too :)

    -- Posted by LeahTN79 on Tue, Oct 20, 2015, at 1:47 PM
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