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Bedford Ramblings
Steve Mills

How does an employer and employee find each other these days?

Posted Monday, December 21, 2015, at 12:39 PM
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  • The largest problem is, A lot of employers want the best employees but don't want to pay them high enough to find and keep them. Most feel that just above minimum wage is perfectly fine.

    -- Posted by Evil Monkey on Mon, Dec 21, 2015, at 11:52 PM
  • I checked on salary and all are between $40-65K which should be above many, but the folks are also saying they don't seem to want to work a 40 hour week.

    Is that something new?

    -- Posted by stevemills on Tue, Dec 22, 2015, at 11:26 AM
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    It doesn't matter how much or how little the pay is, if a person agrees to do a job they should show up on time and work while they are on the clock. As far as common sense goes, there doesn't seem to be much of that any more. Another problem is too many people growing up and being taught by osmosis that you can make a good enough living off the government and be on permanent vacation.

    -- Posted by fair share on Tue, Dec 22, 2015, at 12:41 PM
  • Steve,

    Does McDonald's pay a salary to cashiers? Does Tyson pay a salary to a majority of their workers? Do these workers make 40-65k?

    fair share,

    "Another problem is too many people growing up and being taught by osmosis that you can make a good enough living off the government and be on permanent vacation."

    I find that the contrary.

    -- Posted by Evil Monkey on Wed, Dec 23, 2015, at 1:47 PM
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    Of course not everyone on welfare is like that but I see it to the third and now fourth generation.

    Flipping burgers or cutting chickens should not be thought of as a career but as an entry point into the workforce.

    -- Posted by fair share on Wed, Dec 23, 2015, at 5:43 PM
  • EM, I am not sure where you are coming from with your comment.

    I do not believe the employers I was using as reference pay minimum wage. Their lowest hourly is $13 to 15 an hour. Is that minimum now?

    Salaried is what I mentioned above, so ..... what is your point about McDonald?

    -- Posted by stevemills on Wed, Dec 23, 2015, at 6:49 PM
  • Steve,

    You stated salary was 40-65k, and I don't see many people in this area making that kind of money. Am I missing your point? If so, please let me know.

    fair share,

    I am glad you see that not many people are like that, and the ones you see that are third and fourth generation don't know any better. But, I know many of those people are sick of living that way and are striving to find a better way.

    In regards to your flipping burgers and cutting chickens statement, You do realize that in this area, there isn't much else. I will say, it is getting better each year with the newer industries coming in, but we are not attracting much in the ways of technology. We, as a town, have to travel outside of the county to work at those jobs.

    I have to give the Shelbyville's Tennessee College of Applied Technology for continually doing the fantastic work of getting our local people up to the latest skill-sets needed to be competitive, but I will those jobs were here.

    -- Posted by Evil Monkey on Thu, Dec 24, 2015, at 2:22 AM
  • will should have said wish... 2:23am here.. a tad tired.

    -- Posted by Evil Monkey on Thu, Dec 24, 2015, at 2:24 AM
  • Well, I am not sure I was making a point as much asking if the employee market had changed since I was more involved in it. The companies ARE local and pay (or are willing to pay) $40-65k for management positions.

    The positions range from online sales, production management to hourly workers and they say they are having trouble finding conscientious employees at all levels. They say an hourly employee could easily move into a salaried position if they showed common sense and the willingness to get the job done.

    I am sure the job has challenges and drawbacks but according to the owner of the company, they can't seem to find good contenders. Maybe THEY are being unrealistic?

    None of the jobs require a college education but some do require computer knowledge (not programming), one is an office position and could evolve into an accounting type position from what I am told.

    BUT I am not the company, nor am I involved in any hiring, so no need to "pick my brains" (what ever is left).

    But the jobs are here EM. Not sure why you think everyone in the area works for minimum. I'll grant you that those positions are probably not advertised much.

    From what I experienced in years past, advertising brought in hourly people who thought they should be paid much more than they were worth, at least right from the start. That is not saying that these folks could not improve their lot, just that they were expecting too much for what they had to offer immediately.

    If you hired them for hourly, they did not last long and while there they did not show a reason to be worth more.

    It also brought in people who were just there to interview so their unemployment status could be maintained. I was told that, not just "assuming" it.

    They've used "agencies" before and they must have the same problem since the folks they sent never worked out.

    Now this COULD point out that the company is tough to work for, or has unrealistic expectations. Maybe, but there are employees who have been with them for 10+ years, so something clicked. Maybe a match made in 'heaven'? I don't know.

    -- Posted by stevemills on Thu, Dec 24, 2015, at 10:51 AM
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