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Steve Mills

Are we really rattling swords because emails were hacked?

Posted Monday, January 2, 2017, at 3:32 PM
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  • Steve, The E-mails are just the tip of the iceberg. Russia's hackers have been looking for weaknesses in everything from our power grid to our financial systems. I don't think you realize just how completely dependent we are on computer systems these days. They have been wreaking havoc on weaker countries around them (such as the Ukraine), but the only prize worth risking overt action in the US was to get a clown elected president. That one paid off big time.

    As far as naivete is concerned, are there seriously people who believe that telephone calls and couriers are inviolate? We live in a complex world. Unfortunately we are in 2017 with a president stuck in 1985.

    -- Posted by lazarus on Mon, Jan 2, 2017, at 8:44 PM
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    Steve, I don't think b o is rattling swords so much as rattling his wheeze. Just trying to talk tough his last few weeks while knowing he won't have to actually do anything about it. Of course the Russians have been poking and prodding our information grid, as has China and no doubt our friends. As we have been doing to them. If Russia really was involved in the DNC hack, what was their reason? To help Trump get elected? Maybe, if they would rather have to deal with him than shillary. But they have had 8 years of free reign with b o. And 4 of those were with shillary as SoS. And with shillary being b o 2, would they really risk the possibility Trump might actually have a pair when dealing with them? I don't think they are that stupid. I wonder if b o is going to get mad at China for stealing confidential info on millions of military and DoD personnel a few years ago? At least now in 2017 we (soon) will have a president not naive enough to put confidential info on an unsecured server in his bathroom.

    -- Posted by fair share on Mon, Jan 2, 2017, at 9:27 PM
  • So far, the accusation has been that the Russian hackers influenced the election in favor of Trump. That may be true, the question is, HOW? By revealing the truth about Hillary and the DNC??? Really, that is the only thing that has been brought out so far!!

    The narrative the media seems to be pushing is that Russian hackers actually changed the outcome of the election by directly hacking voting machines, or some other mechanism, that determines the winner of the election. If this is the case, then how do they know it was hacked? Usually, one doesn't know they have been hacked until there are things that happen to your computer/account that you did not do.

    If the only offense is revealing the truth about the DNC, then It would seem to me that the narrative and rhetoric doesn't match the offense. However, if the program was already set and the outcome was manipulated/re-programmed, keeping the actual hacking information under wraps is imperative.

    Just how much faith do you have in a system that returns voting results of an entire nation in one night?

    -- Posted by Liveforlight on Mon, Jan 2, 2017, at 9:52 PM
  • Trump is going to answer all these questions Tuesday or Wednesday.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Mon, Jan 2, 2017, at 10:48 PM
  • With so much at stake you'd think there would be set guidelines on how to handle sensitive emails by government officials.

    Maybe training classes and documentation that the trainee understands what is expected.

    -- Posted by quietmike on Tue, Jan 3, 2017, at 4:16 AM
  • Seems there will be no Trump announcement tomorrow on what he knew about the Russian hacking that no one else knew.America will not be able to trust Trump on anything. He is a habitual liar.He also lied about the breifing intelligence being delayed,which was always scheduled for Friday.

    Now he is delaying his news conference again about his conflicts of interest.Some Americans are now willing to accept what is illegal as normal when it comes to Trump.

    He can sell his products made overseas in America but slams other companies for it. He can rub shoulders with murderers thats no problem. He can tweet about national security with heads of other countries.He can say terrible things about women and its okay.He can keep business in several countries and it is okay if it has any affect on his policies and his family can run the country.Is this the new norm for America?

    -- Posted by lets be real on Tue, Jan 3, 2017, at 10:20 PM
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    Don't any of you intelligent people have any COMMON SENSE?

    First of all there is absolutely no evidence, what so ever, that Russia had anything to do with hacking any Government servers.

    The information that was revealed came from the DNC and Hillary's servers along with the Clinton's foundation server.

    Did anyone hear anything about any classified information being stolen? NO!

    No classified information was hacked, but Director Comey said Hillary did have classified information on her server, so where is this classified information that Russia is supposed to have found? Nothing has been said about that!

    ALL OF THE UNITED STATES INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES, so I have heard over and over again, has said Russia hacked email accounts, but refuse to admit any classified information was taken.

    So now! What does this tell us about ALL THOSE TOP SECRET CIA and NSA Agents and Agencies we have on the United States Government Payroll?

    Here is what it is telling us: They are Liars. They have been lying to the American people about all this hacking $h!t.

    First of all, all the NEWS Agencies have told us that all these email leaks came from WikiLeaks.

    Okay, I can buy that, but being smart as I am, I would have gone to WikiLeaks for some answers. WikiLeaks was never interviewed in any of their Highly investigated reports. The first place to look is at the source of the leaks and yet the Government never went there. WHY? Well, because they would have to bring Hillary down further with their investigation and they didn't want to do any more damage to their party.

    WikiLeaks stated they did not get any information from Russia, Putin or any Russian State.

    So the Democrats turned this around into a warlock hunt blaming Trump with being a Russian Spy, when it was Hillary who had classified information on her server and it got revealed some how.

    This was a Democratic INSIDE JOB! All the information that was given to WikiLeaks, seemed to be the truth, yet no classified documents were found that could bury Hillary according to their reports but the Director said Hillary did have classified documents on her server.

    To sum it all up, what can I say? Oh I know. They are brain dead. Here is why I say that. The WH Admin claims that all the intelligent agencies that we have in America, agreed that it was Russia that hacked the emails. Couldn't they have at least exempted one agency from their list, so we could assume at least one of them know what they are doing? NO! They want us to believe that all the Intelligent agencies don't know how to investigate or solve crimes or even minor problems.

    All those secret agencies have convinced Obama to retaliate against Putin by running all the Russian diplomats and their families out of America.

    Good thing Trump has it all under control. Obama just made another A$$ of himself by trying to make it harder on Trump to make America Great Again.

    This last month will be hell on wheels with Obama doing his best to destroy everything he can about America.

    Oh, good grief. I just explain what Trump is going to tell the people tomorrow or the next day. Sorry!

    And while I think about it, what classified information is Trump Tweeting? He uses his tweets to humiliate his enemies and reassure his friends.

    It looks to me like the democrats are going to make the next 8 years full of their RACIST Remarks and Racist Actions.

    -- Posted by sui on Wed, Jan 4, 2017, at 12:47 AM
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    Didn't he tweet classified nuclear launch times? Oh, never mind, that was something shillary said at the debate.

    -- Posted by fair share on Wed, Jan 4, 2017, at 3:54 AM
  • LBR,

    Specifically what is being accepted about Trump that is illegal?

    -- Posted by quietmike on Wed, Jan 4, 2017, at 6:11 AM
  • Lets start with letting your family sit in on a meeting with the head of state of Japan for one and sexual harassment of women for another.Then how about cheating Americans out of money at what he called a university.

    If Obama had been accused of just one of these he would have never been president.

    It seems millions of Trump supporters upset about loosing their health insurance LOL.After 8 years Republicans still have no plan for health care.The only plan they are concerned about is how to cut ACA and blame the Democrats.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Wed, Jan 4, 2017, at 9:50 AM
  • When repubs dismantle ACA seniors can kiss assistance with perscription drugs goodbye and rural hospitals will close.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Wed, Jan 4, 2017, at 10:17 AM
  • Can you cite a law against family members sitting in on a meeting?

    Since ACA passed without a single republican vote, it IS completely the fault of democrats.

    Sorry about reality.

    -- Posted by quietmike on Wed, Jan 4, 2017, at 10:29 AM
  • LBR (sorry for starting to shorten names. No disrespect but thumbs on cell phones are not my strong point). I personally have had discussion with physicians that planned to close offices and cut back services when the ACA took effect, and they did.

    -- Posted by stevemills on Wed, Jan 4, 2017, at 11:51 AM
  • ACA must not be to bad Trump supporters are afraid of losing it.It will be the fault of the repubs if 20 million lose insurance and rural hospitals close,they will own it.

    Seems Trump is taking Assanges word over CIA.Of course he would take the word of a rapist since he identifies with this type of behavior. I would like to see his face when he meets all the CIA directors on Friday that he has trashed and will have to work with.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Wed, Jan 4, 2017, at 11:59 AM
  • Rural hospitals closed in the past because Repub governers refused to expand medicaid.Most closed their offices out of greed and not wanting to insure their employees.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Wed, Jan 4, 2017, at 12:05 PM
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    I saw on TV that congress had children in the room as they voted for the Speaker. It looked like a family event. Go Figure!

    All of those Democrats who are against Trump repealing Obama Care or Affordable Health Care, exempted themselves from having to pay for it. I don't know why they did that, because everyone of them are getting Obamacare FREE at the Taxpayer's expense.

    The taxpayers are paying for my full coverage of Obamacare thru the VA, so all government employees are covered by Obamacare with no one paying for it.

    The news media is talking about 20 million people will suffer if Obamacare is repealed!

    Who are these 20 million people and why will they suffer? 20 million people out of 340 million people is a drop in the bucket. Hell, there are over 40 million people unemployed. Tell me that doesn't hurt!

    Boy when you talk about be racist against the white, lbr, you take it all the way and include the whole family. You are prejudice against the whole white race. But I guess if you have to be prejudice, it might as well be against the white Privileged class.

    When the deductible comes up to something like $5,000.00 before the insurance will kick in, what is a person to do. Most people in America can't come up with $5,000.00 cash. I can only assume the democrats can.

    Obama is the one who tried to force the people to get Obamacare. That means it is a voluntary insurance and the people have to volunteer to buy the insurance to be liable for the payments.

    Of course by forcing insurance companies out of business, he didn't give people any choice.

    However, it is like an executive order by the president and only applies to government agencies and their employees and federal citizens (14th amendment citizens).

    No one has a plan on replacing Obamacare because no one has had the authority to replace it yet. Trump is not the President yet, but has done more for America than Obama has in his full 8 years of dictatorship.

    Killing Bin Laden! That seems to be the only good thing Obama claims he did, yet he had nothing to do with it other than okaying the mission that was already planned.

    Look at what he did do at that time. He left the Top Secret Tail section of the helicopter for Pakistan to give to China. With all the drones Obama used, why didn't he destroy the tail section? He was watching the whole event realtime in the war room with Hillary Clinton. He could have sent a drone over there to blow it up, but didn't.

    As far as blaming the democrats for Obamacare failure, that is written in stone. It is going to fail no matter what anyone can do to help it. People can not afford it.

    Maybe Trump will ask James Comey to investigate his University and his businesses all over the world so he can tell the people that Trump cheated people and does own businesses, but like Hillary, he doesn't think there is any reason to prosecute Trump. Now wouldn't that be something.

    Now, if you believe everyone is created equally, and everyone has equal protection of the law, then shouldn't Trump get the same "get out of jail Free card" that Hillary did? That just proves my point that there is a privilege class of white people in this country that are not bound by the laws that all other persons are.

    I have to laugh at all you democrats who are upset because Trump isn't doing anything that he promised he would do. He isn't the president yet. And to top that off, if you have noticed, Obama is doing everything he can to make it hard on Trump when he does get in office. He has said he intends to stay in DC to police the politics, as if he could do anything right. He couldn't do anything good while he was the president, how does he think he can do anything after he leaves. He thinks people love him. Boy is he disillusioned. He has lost all of his followers and he help to destroy the Democratic party using Hillary Clinton.

    For a woman that all women were going to look up to as a guiding light for all women, she sure blew that for all the women around the world. I don't think any woman wants to follow in her footsteps. Personally, I don't see why the women shouldn't bring Hillary up on charges of Sexual Harassment for leading them on then dropping the boom on them by losing the election with all the lies and crooked dealings she was involved in. Hillary sure did pull the wool over their eyes!

    -- Posted by sui on Wed, Jan 4, 2017, at 12:40 PM
  • I was referring to physicians about closing for greed.

    Companies claim the price of their products would sky rocket because they had to insure employees.Papa John claimed their pizzas would double,they did not.thee Ceos were just afraid of not being able to get as big a raise.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Wed, Jan 4, 2017, at 12:44 PM
  • I like to think I will at least consider what someone else has to say, but there is so much hate and unsubstantiated claims coming out on this post that it is not worth ruining my day by reading anymore.

    I seem to be thinking that way more and more lately, so as suggested, maybe I should stop "enabling" this hate any further.

    Even when I try to create a post that will explore solutions, it turns hateful. Is it worth it?

    -- Posted by stevemills on Wed, Jan 4, 2017, at 1:19 PM
  • LBR,

    Three posts and you didn't cite any law?

    Hate to inject reality again, but repealing obamacare is one of the reasons Trump got elected.

    -- Posted by quietmike on Wed, Jan 4, 2017, at 2:23 PM
  • Steve,

    It is very telling when the vitriol cannot be substantiated with factual data.

    You have to wonder why they've formed those opinions.

    It could be just coincidence that several are just saying the same things, but lets be real.

    -- Posted by quietmike on Wed, Jan 4, 2017, at 2:26 PM
  • Quote from Trump supporters on tv"We didn't think he would really repeal Obamacare". They cheered at his rallies when he said it over and over.Were they cheering to what they thought was a lie.Now they are in for a rude awakening.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Wed, Jan 4, 2017, at 3:07 PM
  • There would be no auto industry if not for Obama.Obama created millions of jobs and trump helped keep 700 in America that was staying anyway.Trump thinks he is already president from what he is tweeting.What has Trump done for Americans beside cheat people out of their pay after working for him and using other peoples charity money for his personal use.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Wed, Jan 4, 2017, at 3:21 PM
  • Ford didn't take bailout money and survived beautifully. So did Nissan, Toyota, and Volkswagon.

    No president creates jobs, regardless of party affiliation.

    That reality is really tough for you, huh?

    -- Posted by quietmike on Wed, Jan 4, 2017, at 3:55 PM
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    Sui, you spoke a bit about white privilege. We need to be careful when we use certain words and terms because sometimes lbr and people like her have a different definition than normal people. As an example, "white privilege" . Some think that means anyone who has white skin automatically has it made in life. To me, that term means I have the privilege of knowing my father and talking to him each day; I have the privilege of working to support my family; and I even have the privilege of working to support those who choose not to do it themselves.

    -- Posted by fair share on Wed, Jan 4, 2017, at 6:16 PM
  • Fair share why do you assume I am not white.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Wed, Jan 4, 2017, at 7:19 PM
  • White privilege is when you kill 9 people and the police take you to Burger king before going to jail,other wise you would have been shot by police knowing you had a weapon.White privilege is when y ou start a fire that kills 14 people and burn hundreds of homes and your picture is not on tv or even mentioned anymore.White privilege is when you can curse and fight with the police and not be shot.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Wed, Jan 4, 2017, at 7:32 PM
  • What if you're a group of black Chicago thugs who kidnap and torture a mentally disabled white man, while shouting racial epithets and "breed" Donald Trump, and it's not on national news 24/7, and Obama doesn't give a speech in the rose garden?

    -- Posted by quietmike on Wed, Jan 4, 2017, at 8:35 PM
  • LBR,

    More reality for you (I hope you don't overdose), the Gatlinburg arsonists don't have their picture on tv because they are juveniles and that's the law, your incessant whining notwithstanding.

    -- Posted by quietmike on Wed, Jan 4, 2017, at 8:37 PM
  • I have seen juveniles pictures on news many times.Remember Lionel Tate the 13 year old who killed his 6 year old friend in a wrestling move,he was filmed in court crying.The teenager who moved from Tenn and killed a teacher last year photo was on news several times.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Wed, Jan 4, 2017, at 9:47 PM
  • Lionel Tate was tried as an adult.

    If that decision is made in the Gatlinburg trial, you'll see those pictures as well.

    Honestly, is research forbidden for liberals?

    -- Posted by quietmike on Wed, Jan 4, 2017, at 10:30 PM
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    Lbr?, I don't assume anything about you. Despite my better judgment, I take you at your word. You have said more than once on these boards that you are a retired black female who worked all your life, I think most recently in a medical practice. If I am misremembering what you have said (or if you were just flat out lying about it) then by all means, please let me know.

    -- Posted by fair share on Thu, Jan 5, 2017, at 12:55 AM
  • 18 USC 1924 (a)

    Violation Of Laws Regarding The Handling of Classified Documents

    According to the law, there are five elements that must be met for a violation of the statute, and they can all be found in section (a) of the statute: "(1) Whoever, being an officer, employee, contractor, or consultant of the United States, and, (2) by virtue of his office, employment, position, or contract, becomes possessed of documents or materials containing classified information of the United States, (3) knowingly removes such documents or materials (4) without authority and (5) with the intent to retain such documents or materials at an unauthorized location [shall be guilty of this offense]."

    I suspect that after January 20, the Clinton's will discover that they are not above the law.

    -- Posted by Tim Lokey on Thu, Jan 5, 2017, at 7:32 AM
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    Well thank you Tim! I still say when Obama gets out of office Hillary will get her dues, and it wouldn't surprise me any if Obama is added to the list of defendants under the same law you sited as an accessory to or helping to accomplish and cover up the crime.

    -- Posted by sui on Thu, Jan 5, 2017, at 1:17 PM
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    lbr,

    White Privilege isn't even a correct term.

    A Privilege is something someone or something gives you. It is just a privilege but not a right.

    "White Privilege" would be a white man who does not know he has Unalienable Rights and accepts Civil Rights. Civil Rights is just a politically correct name Privileges. The Civil Rights Act was enacted to limit the rights of the black race and added as limited constitutional rights for immigrants.

    When I use the words "White Privilege" I am speaking of the Sovereign Rights of the White people who recognize their Unalienable Rights AND EXERCISE their God given Rights.

    Now don't get mad at me! As far as I am concerned I believe a Black Man or Black Woman could reclaim their God given rights and become sovereign just like a White man must do. Yes, you heard me right! I White Man has to reclaim his/her Unalienable Rights to be included as a part of the Sovereignty of this country. Our leaders over the years has removed your sovereignty from you without your knowledge. You must reclaim it or you are just a "person" with privileges and very few rights.

    Also, if you remember, Obama not only bailed the Auto Industry out, but promised to buy so many of their first vehicles for Government use. Bailing out an Industry that should have been set for life, then Promising to buy their product is a double bail out in itself.

    He also had to bail out the Banks too. Remember?

    Then he had to bail out a couple of them again. That was uncalled for. The banks should have been shut down for stealing the peoples money, not rewarded with more money from the taxpayers.

    Can't you see how Obama used our money to raise the debt of the United State to almost twice what all president before him added together spent. That falls under treason as far as I am concerned.

    What happened to the word "IMPEACHMENT". The left made the word "impeach" a racist word, yet I have seen it being used already by the left. "Impeach before he gets in office."

    -- Posted by sui on Thu, Jan 5, 2017, at 1:44 PM
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    Getting back to the blog,

    I watch some of the Intelligence reporting to congress. I still did not hear any facts that Russia is the one who hacked the emails.

    There was word that Russia was hacking computer early in the year, yet Pres Obama top priority was to give the Internet control over to other countries and out of our governments' control.

    Since the dawn of the Internet, the world wide web has been controlled by the U.S. government's Commerce Department. As of Saturday, October 1, 2016 President Obama gave the control of the internet over to ICANN. It is run by several countries now, including Russia, Iran and China, by the request of several major technology companies (e.g. Google, Facebook, Twitter, Amazon, Cloudflare and Yahoo).

    American government is no longer in charge despite the efforts of conservative lawmakers, like Ted Cruz.

    Where was our 17 Intelligent Officers when Obama was giving the control of the internet to the rest of the world.

    My computer, that is typing this comment, has been hacked several times by spyware and malware, yet I continue to use it. Am I suppose to believe that Russia hacked my computer too? I don't think so. I firmly believe our US Government is snooping in my computer files. They don't find much but supreme court decisions, which do not get replaced all the time, like some people think. No law supercedes an Article III law.

    17 Intelligence Agencies! Why would we need 17 Intelligence Agencies if they are so good. Sounds to me like the Government doesn't trust them and has to decide with the majority. Why couldn't they come up with something solid if all 17 Agencies investigated the hackings? They were only interested in saying Russia Hacked the emails to save them embarrassment for losing the election.

    -- Posted by sui on Thu, Jan 5, 2017, at 2:29 PM
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    As we move on, my Intelligence Agency tells me that President-Eject Obama has called ALL Aircraft Carriers back from all over the world.

    Just how stupid is that (IF) you are an American!

    Pres-Eject Obama has just accused Russia of being a spy and hacking information from Hillary's and the DNC's email servers. Pres-Eject Obama has also spent no time in demanding all the Russian Diplomats and their families out of their own buildings and the United States and gave them only 72 hours to leave.

    I wounder how long it will take Pres-Eject Obama to remove his stuff from the white house?

    Iran is an enemy to the US and causing trouble and wants Israel wiped off the face of the earth and all Americans killed.

    China is unhappy with the US because of Trump's decision to take Taiwanese President Tsai Ing-wen's call. They also are upset with pres-Eject Obama's presence in the China Sea.

    Syria and Turkey don't have any use for Pres-Eject Obama or the United States, and North Korea is pushing to get weapons to destroy the United States. Then we have the remarks Pres-Eject Obama made about Israel. That has made them unhappy with the Pres-Eject Obama.

    Is Pres-Eject Obama afraid that all these countries are going to come after him? Why call all our Aircraft Carriers home unless he thinks he will need them to protect him?

    By calling all the ships back to America, Pres-Eject Obama is setting up another Pearl Harbor Attack with all our ships in one or two places.

    Sounds like the beginning of a Terrorist Attack about to happen as pres-Eject Obama leaves office.

    What are we going to do with hundreds of Carriers just off our shores?

    What are all the 17 Intelligence Agencies saying about that?

    NOTHING!

    Not one out of 17 Agencies have said one word about it that I am aware of.

    Who you gonna believe? Everything pres-Eject Obama has said and done has just been one Lie after another, just like Hillary.

    I sure am glad we are getting a Real MAN to do the jobs pres-Eject Obama failed at.

    Good bye and Good Riddance Pres-Eject Barrack Obama!

    -- Posted by sui on Thu, Jan 5, 2017, at 3:05 PM
  • We are not getting a real man as president,we are getting a 2 year old fool.First Trump doubts there was a hack,now he wants congress to investigate a news station for reporting about it.Maybe he would know more if he attended his briefings.He is more interested in tweeting about ratings for The Apprentice.As soon as he gets out of this intelligence meeting today look for his childish tweets.Trump wants news to only report what he wants to hear.He will try to create a CIA who will only report what he wants to hear,that is why his intellligence man quit.Flynn will do just that,he was thrown out of the CIA and now he wants revenge.

    Trump stated he will ask congress to pay for the wall,it will be american taxpayers who will pay for it. He is foolish enough to think Mexico will pay us back.LOL

    m

    -- Posted by lets be real on Fri, Jan 6, 2017, at 12:28 PM
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    Now the truth starts to seep out.

    The DNC denied the FBI Access to their computers during the Hillary investigation.

    So, how did 17 Intelligent Agencies get their absolutely truthful documented proof Russia Hacked their computers?

    Trump is going to have to revamp the Intelligence Agencies in Washington or drain them also, when he drains the swamp.

    Good news thou for Hillary supporters, She is thinking about running for Mayor of NYC. If she does, she will have pretty much authority over Trump Towers.

    We will have to wait and see what happens there. I am sure it will just be another Failure for Hillary Clinton.

    If she wasn't honest enough to run her presidential campaign how is she going to win the race for the position of Mayor?

    -- Posted by sui on Fri, Jan 6, 2017, at 12:30 PM
  • Sui Obama can take as long as he wants to move out because PRES-OBJECTED by the american people Trump does not think the white house is good enough. It has no gold toilets to hold all the crap he will create.That is why his wife will not be going and to because he is taking Ivanka as first lady.I hear she will have Michelle's office to run her business and the country.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Fri, Jan 6, 2017, at 12:42 PM
  • Trump is trying to drain the swamp and fill it with wall street,the ones who got us into a recession.I am still waiting for his racist ex-sheriff pal Joe from Arizona to come out of Trump Tower.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Fri, Jan 6, 2017, at 12:49 PM
  • I don't understand the obsession with Hillary Clinton. I thought she was going to die any day from the myriad health issues?

    -- Posted by lazarus on Fri, Jan 6, 2017, at 1:01 PM
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    Until she does, she is just sucking air that could be better used for other purposes. I'm a little surprised the tree-huggers haven't called for a commission to investigate that. Sounds like some people may need to double up their nerve pills or risk a stroke. Or decide to accept reality and get on with their lives.

    -- Posted by fair share on Fri, Jan 6, 2017, at 6:15 PM
  • Did anyone hear Trump tell what only he knew about the Russian hacking this week or did I miss something? LOL That was just another bigly lie he told on national TV that no one is calling him on. That is why the Liar in Chief can't get anyone famous to perform at his inauguration.He is even trying to take credit for the 16 year old girl that will sing from Americas got Talent record sales.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Fri, Jan 6, 2017, at 6:24 PM
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    laz;

    Hillary can't go and die on us. I want to see her go to prison.

    as it was once said by this once famous person: "What difference does it make at this point and time, we need to find out what happened and make sure it never happens again!" Then she wouldn't answer any of the questions congress asked her so they could find out what happened.

    She did everything she could to prevent congress from finding out what happened.

    Now the tables have turned and she has 17 of Obama's intelligent agencies coming to her aid to protect her from her criminal actions with all those careless and incriminating classified emails.

    Where is the proof? Oh, it's Classified. All of a sudden they are going to bring up the word Classified! If it is classified, wouldn't it be to our advantage to reveal how Russia did it to help other countries protect their emails from Russia?

    It's okay to say Russia has spied on Hillary's emails and call all of the Russian Diplomats Spies spying on the American Voting process, but would be classified to reveal how Russia did it.

    Obama doesn't have enough wool to pull that lie over on all the people. Some of us are just a little smarter than that.

    FBI Director Comey spent a lot of time investigating Hillary's emails, the DNC's emails and Anthony Weiner's emails. Not once did I hear him say he had proof that Russia hacked Hillary's email server. He was only interested in finding out if Hillary committed any crimes, which he confessed she did.

    Now we are suppose to believe Comey knew Russia was doing the hacking?

    Stop and use your head for a minute!

    Russia did not tells us anything! Julian Assange is the person who released all this information about Hillary's emails and the DNC emails. Julian Assange does not reveal the names of the whistleblowers who give him his information.

    lbr;

    I have to say Trump has already started making America Great again by making you Angry, Miserable, Hateful and insane with envy. This is gonna be a fun 8 years if Steve doesn't collapse from a break down.

    Maybe YOU should apply for the entertainer for Trumps inauguration. I'm sure the people would get a big laugh out of listening to you.

    -- Posted by sui on Fri, Jan 6, 2017, at 8:13 PM
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    You know something LBR, It doesn't take much to change a toilet. When Trump leaves the whitehouse, if the people will let him, he may have gold toilets in all the bathrooms.

    -- Posted by sui on Fri, Jan 6, 2017, at 8:17 PM
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    Sui,

    Give credit where credit is due, but don't give undue credit where it isn't due. Trump can't take credit for making lbr? Angry, Miserable, Hateful, and insane, can he? Seems like it was going on before Trump got into the race.

    -- Posted by fair share on Fri, Jan 6, 2017, at 8:43 PM
  • Trump can build a wall for 25 billion and 750 million a year to maintain,but america can't afford healthcare because it cost to much.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Sat, Jan 7, 2017, at 10:17 AM
  • So it is okay for Trump and his mafia buddies to have business and hotels in other countries and employ those people,but he threatens other companies that do the same.Will he do the same to Ivanka's products that are sold in America?

    -- Posted by lets be real on Sat, Jan 7, 2017, at 10:43 AM
  • The Democrats are ALWAYS looking at just about any business and labeling them monsters, yet Trump puts a little pressure on companies taking jobs off-shore and now HE is the bad one. And he is not even president yet!

    How does that compute? Also, how do you place hotels in the United States for French tourist sites? That does not compute either.

    The most puzzling thing to me, is why am I even responding? It will make absolutely NO impression on those who will not open their minds.

    -- Posted by stevemills on Sat, Jan 7, 2017, at 1:35 PM
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    That only computes in the minds of the dems/libs. But they are very open minded. If you agree with them. They might even be so open minded their brains fell out. At least that is as plausible an explanation as any.

    -- Posted by fair share on Sat, Jan 7, 2017, at 2:52 PM
  • Well stevemills does this compute.Trump's history of outsourcing is as long as his history of bankruptcies.Here is a headline he wrote for a course at his fake Trump U,"Outsourcing creates jobs in the long run".Hotels is not the only thing he produces overseas,here is a list of just some of them.His companies make ties,suits,dresses,shirts,eyeglasses,vodka and furniture. China makes furniture for his hotels all over the world.These could be made in America and put Americans to work.His company makes products in China,Bangladesh,Honduras,Vietnam Turkey and Israel,just to name a few.

    His motto is "don't do as I do,do as I say do.I saw old clips of him on talk shows in the past bragging about outsourcing and how much money he made.He uses cheap labor for more profit. He even uses steel made in China for his hotels built in America.

    The same people who believed anything about Obama even if proven false are willing to close their ears to anything Trump does even if it is wrong or

    immoral.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Sat, Jan 7, 2017, at 5:37 PM
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    LBR;

    You forgot about the Bank that Trump owns in China!

    We don't know anything about Obama! He paid millions of dollars to keep his past hid from the world.

    Let me answer all those questions with one that came from the democrats, so you might understand it.

    Trump wasn't the one running for President!

    Now it's a new page in History and it's time to put Obama out to pasture and let Trump Make America Great Again.

    "Making America Great Again" does not mean going all the way back to the time of Slavery. It means going back before the time Obama divided the country and turned the American people against themselves. It means going back 10 or 15 years ago and pick up again on working together to have a great country again with jobs, new roads and bridges and security walls to keep the aliens and terrorists out.

    We have to Take America back before the time of the Sanctuary Cities, Everyday Terrorists, Black Lives Matter, Everyday Police Brutality and killing Cops. It's too late to go back before the 20 Trillion Dollar Deficit, but Trump is the only man I know of today who could do something to reduce it.

    Today it is up to Trump to lead the way as our Leader - BECAUSE -

    Hillary isn't running for President!

    Shortly, she may be running FROM the President, but for now she is not running for President!

    -- Posted by sui on Sun, Jan 8, 2017, at 12:28 AM
  • I would like to know more about this halcyon time to which you would have us return, sui. It couldn't be 10 years ago, because we were bitterly divided, had just completed the noble task of destabilizing the entire middle east, were terrified of another 9-11, and flying headfirst into the biggest economic crisis since the great depression. And I don't think it was 15 years ago, because that was when the 9-11 attacks happened. Admittedly, we were probably as united as we have been in my lifetime. However, we squandered the moment, using it to pass the very Un-American "Patriot Act", and launch a pointless war that made the world a more dangerous place to live.... Maybe you could point out some other year for us to return to, when everything was perfect.

    -- Posted by lazarus on Sun, Jan 8, 2017, at 1:55 PM
  • It's odd that a self described libertarian would need to have explained to him what would make America better, as libertarian platforms are rather straightforward.

    https://www.lp.org/platform/

    -- Posted by quietmike on Mon, Jan 9, 2017, at 5:48 AM
  • That is not what I asked, Quite Mike. I was wanting sui to reveal just when it was that America was "great." the two years he listed were no better than today.

    -- Posted by lazarus on Mon, Jan 9, 2017, at 11:11 AM
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    Lazyrus, if you are looking for a comprehensive history lesson, you can find several good books at your local bookstore. If you want to learn about specific years try poking around Wikipedia. Just remember to view it with a skeptical grain of salt in your eye. And if you just want a list of the years, here is a partial one: 1942, 1943, 1944,1945, 1956, 1957, 1958, and1981-1988.

    -- Posted by fair share on Mon, Jan 9, 2017, at 11:49 AM
  • Laz,

    To a real libertarian, most laws and regulations are anathema to the platform (and the constitution).

    The Obama years saw record levels of regulations, so simply eliminating them is a huge step in making the country better.

    Whiny liberals will always say the country wasn't great when government wasn't powdering their behind. But for freedom loving people, America was greatest when government interfered less.

    -- Posted by quietmike on Mon, Jan 9, 2017, at 2:13 PM
  • The Tweeter in Chief to be is tweeting about Meryl Streep and being out of gowns in Dc instead of getting his cabinet picks vetted.Which is another lie as the shops in DC states they have plenty of gowns.

    Yes the good ole boys want to go back to high unemployment and a recession.This does not even make sense.Just like the coal miners thinking Trump will bring back coal jobs.He will not bring back coal jobs but he will take their black lung insurance benefits.

    Picking people like Jeff Sessions is a sign of wanting to go back to the pre-civil rights days.This man was deemed to racist to bea federal judge and fought against voting rights.Anyone who thinks we were better off 10 years ago either has dementia or is wants to believe a lie.

    You say you want government to interfer less,then why do you think the government has the right to tell a woman what she can do with her own body?

    -- Posted by lets be real on Mon, Jan 9, 2017, at 2:57 PM
  • It isn't her body or she'd die from an abortion.

    If it's her body, her choice, why is heroin and prostitution illegal?

    Real unemployment is still around 10% with more people on welfare now than when obama took office. The fed is still keeping interest rates artificially low. If the obama economy is so good, why did Bernie the bum campaign on fixing the economy?

    As usual, idiot democrats try to play the race card, while conveniently ignoring the FACT that democrats were the ones lynching blacks to keep them away from the voting booth.

    -- Posted by quietmike on Mon, Jan 9, 2017, at 3:22 PM
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    Besides being libertarian, don't forget Laz is also conservative.

    -- Posted by fair share on Mon, Jan 9, 2017, at 4:13 PM
  • I think we can safely add either confused or dishonest to that list.

    -- Posted by quietmike on Mon, Jan 9, 2017, at 5:26 PM
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    Both?

    -- Posted by fair share on Mon, Jan 9, 2017, at 6:05 PM
  • Now in America it is called whining to demand common decency from a soon to be president for mocking the way God made someone. Conservatives think Streep is the bad one for calling Trump out on this.Meghan McCain even said "Speeches like this helped him win". What happened to christian conservative values?So now he is still tweeting about what Streep said and about everybody buying all the gowns in DC for his inauguration.

    Obama was called a racist,a monkey by politicians and americans,a muslim terrorist and unamerican and how many times did he get into a twitter war with anyone? No because he did not use his power as president to bully regular americans.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Mon, Jan 9, 2017, at 7:52 PM
  • Didn't use his power to bully americans....

    IRS targeting conservative groups.

    Fast and furious and operation choke point to undermine gun rights.

    I've got a pen and phone

    -- Posted by quietmike on Mon, Jan 9, 2017, at 8:04 PM
  • Obama needed a pen because he had no congress to work with him.Remember This "We will make as our top priorty for Obama to be a one term president".

    Now all of a sudden the vetting process is not important to become a cabinet member.In the past you had to have all you and your family's business ties,tax records,FBI background checks in place before the hearings.It took the Obama administration months to do this.Republicans want to rush them through now without even being vetted.All americans should be concerned no matter what party.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Mon, Jan 9, 2017, at 11:31 PM
  • Everybody will be properly vetted as they have been in the past," said U.S. Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell, speaking in New York after meeting with Trump on Monday. He said he hoped to confirm six or seven national security appointees by the time Trump takes office on Jan 20.

    http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN14T13K

    -- Posted by quietmike on Tue, Jan 10, 2017, at 7:50 AM
  • In the past they had to be vetted before hearings.Congress would not even start to confirm any of Obamas picks unless fully vetted.The ethics committe is concerned because some having hearings this week have NOT filed proper papers.You can not rubber stamp these people before knowing what is in their background.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Tue, Jan 10, 2017, at 2:38 PM
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    Sounds exactly like the way they passed b o care. How many did b o get approved in the 1st day of hearings? Now, of course, we have to sloooow it down.By the way, last night the refs said Clemson won the National Championship. Of course, the rules were different for Clemson than for all the other teams. It was okay for Clemson to make their last second game winning TD by running a pick play that Alabama would have been flagged for. I can't speak for anyone else, but just because the refs said it was ok doesn't make it right. Clemson can be your National Champion if you want, but they sure as heck ain't mine. They are illegitimate and I do not accept them. Now I'm going to go look for someone else's car I can turn over.

    -- Posted by fair share on Tue, Jan 10, 2017, at 2:54 PM
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    Actually Laz, Any time period before 2009 was a time America was Great. We pulled together during 9-11. Bush went after the terrorists, but got side tracked with the 17 Intelligent agencies who told him there were weapons of mass destruction. I felt proud of our country and service men who went to the aid of the Iraqi people who were being tortured, raped and mudered by Saddam Hussein and his sons.

    We have had recessions and depressions, stock market ups and downs, but for the last 8 years this country has been taken down by one man and his Admin with their RACIST Claims that only came from the left.

    This one dictator took America down! He ruined the good credit rating of The United States. He spent more money, that we didn't have, than all the presidents together before him, raising the deficit to $20 Trillion before he leaves office;

    He has destroyed Syria with his bombing that he condemns Trump from doing; He destroyed Egypt by allowing the Muslim Brother hood to take over then sent them American Tanks and Aircraft fighters at no cost to them; He took out Muammar Gaddafi with Hillary's persuasion then left the country to the people wiyh no looking back or help in setting up a government in Lybia. It is soon being taken over by Isis; He Removed all the troops out of Iraq so he could say the war is over, just to have to keep bringing in our troops hundreds at a time, (Boots on the Ground); He keeps shipping troops into Afgan when he said he was bringing them out. (Boots on the ground);

    He allowed 4 men to be killed at Hillary's Benghazi because they were doing a weapons smuggling from North Africa into Syria for the Rebels that very same night;

    He sent CIA (Boots on the ground) just to train the Rebels and supply them with weapons, so Putin and Syria could kill them in their bombings: Where are all those CIA trainers he sent to Syria? We never hear anything about them. We only hear that he has sent more training (Boots on the ground);

    His coalition has bombed "Doctors Without Borders" 3 or 4 times and Aleppo for days even during the cease fire. Just to have Assad and Putin go after the Rebels and anyone training them. He has painted Red Lines for Iran that Obama dares not to cross. He allows our men to be captured without any retaliation, yet wants to retaliate against Russia our biggest enemy? Or is it Israel? Obama tried to help the voters defeat Benjamin Netanyahu without any respect to him or our country or secrecy about it, yet retaliates against Putin for something he doesn't have any proof of.

    Syria has taken Aleppo and allowed the rebels to leave... so where are they going? All over the world with Isis included in their migration. Now Obama won't stand up with Israel in the Building of Homes in Israel. He has invited the Center and South Americans to come to America so they can vote for the Demos, creating another chaos in America. With just a few days left, he is releasing criminals from prisons, detainees from Gitmo and thousands of unvetted and undocumented Syrians and Isis into our country.

    Even the Racial conflicts we had in the 50's and 60's didn't hurt America as much as Obama has hurt America in the past 8 years. America was strong and worked through the problems with the Civil Rights Act.

    Today, Obama sides with the Black Lives Matter along with Joe Biden and Hillary Clinton. They are the people who are using Racism to muddle through the last days. Even the news Media keeps racism stirred up between the races. We have to stop our lying corrupt leaders and the news media show people now before it gets really out of hand.

    We were always the Policemen of the world, before Obama took office. He always seems to pick the wrong side of the battle to make America look bad and weak.

    Soon, Obama will be gone and living off the Taxpayers money in Washington DC.

    Then we will see America become Great again. Sorry I confused you with dates Laz!

    -- Posted by sui on Tue, Jan 10, 2017, at 5:01 PM
  • The 4 killed in Benghazi was because the republicans cut funding for American embassies.

    Anyone who thinks we were better off under Bush either has dementia or continues to want to believe a lie.Anyone who thinks racial conflicts are worse today than in the 50's and 60's need to read a history book.The only thing that has divided this country is hidden racist that in their cold hearts still can not get over a black president.There is no way in h*** that that people of color were better off back then.I do not know of any one lynched or killed for trying to vote under Obama.I do not know of any churches bombed that killed children under Obama.

    Trump wants America to distrust the media and believe what ever crap comes out of his mouth.He wants to control the media just like Putin.

    And as far as living off the taxpayers money,that is laughable. What about all the other ex-presidents,why is it just Obama you bring up?Obama and Michelle are laywers and have their own money.They were both making 6 figure incomes before he took office.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Tue, Jan 10, 2017, at 7:24 PM
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    LBR;

    "The Tweeter in Chief to be is tweeting about Meryl Streep":

    Meryl Streep just won the highest award she could win and it only happens once in your lifetime, and she destroyed it all with her damming speech against Trump who will be the POTUS in days. Now they should give her the award she is really worthy of!

    "and being out of gowns in DC instead of getting his cabinet picks vetted": I may be wrong, but I do not think Trump can vet his choices. That is up to Congress to do!

    "Which is another lie as the shops in DC states they have plenty of gowns":

    Who cares unless you are going to DC to his inauguration. Probably the shop owners do have gowns, but if you ordered one for Trump's inauguration, they will tell you they are out of gowns.

    "Picking people like Jeff Sessions is a sign of wanting to go back to the pre-civil rights days.This man was deemed to racist to be a federal judge and fought against voting rights.Anyone who thinks we were better off 10 years ago either has dementia or is wants to believe a lie."

    If you eliminate all the people who were Racist back then, you nor I, would be here today! There wouldn't be very many people black or white today who never said anything Racist back then. It's time to move on!!!

    "You say you want government to interfer less,then why do you think the government has the right to tell a woman what she can do with her own body?"

    The Government is a liar and the law tells us that the government will lie to us. The law okays their lying. That is how it tricks you into doing things that are against your rights.

    If a woman doesn't know how to claim her rights, she just doesn't have any when it comes to the courts. Now there is no way that President Trump nor Obama can make it a law to kill babies or not kill babies. That is up to congress and state legislators under the constitution. The final word comes from the Supreme Court in interpreting the law, state or federal. So curse the courts - they tell you what you can and can not do with your body because they own it. You are a commodity on the stock market. Just what right do you have to kill another life? It may be your body, but it is someone else's life. That is just plain Murder and like I said, that isn't the Presidents decision to make either!

    What if the court chose to kill the mother and let the baby live? How would that effect your decision to kill? It would be the baby's body, but only the mother's life! I don't think there would be much talk about abortions anymore.

    "High unemployment and a recession" that is what is happening TODAY! So the economy is good uh? Well if it is so good, why did I only get a $2.00 raise per month on my SOS Sec check? That wouldn't even buy a loaf of bread or a half gallon of milk. I can almost get 1 gallon of cheap gas, but that won't go very far into the month. I almost mailed it back to them.

    No the economy isn't anything like what Obama is telling you. Nor is the unemployment rate. Part time jobs are not my idea of a good job.

    -- Posted by sui on Tue, Jan 10, 2017, at 7:30 PM
  • Under Trump and the republicans you will be lucky to even get a social security check let alone a $2.00 raise.They are going to cut medicare and social security.Sui tell me you are joking,do you really think we are in a recession today?Anybody in Shelbyville can get a job if they really want one.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Tue, Jan 10, 2017, at 9:32 PM
  • Well it seems the Russians have compromising material on Trump.Republicans and Trump supporters surely will believe what ever they have just as they did about Clinton.America is getting ready to find out what Russia is holding over his head.I will bet you money Trump's news conference tomorrow will never happen.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Tue, Jan 10, 2017, at 9:41 PM
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    LBR;

    "The 4 killed in Benghazi was because the republicans cut funding for American embassies."

    Funny how the congress cut funding for American Embassies because Obama has spent too dam much money that they had to cut something. Obama didn't have the money to fly a plane in and bring them out with the others,

    YET OBAMA could scrape up 1.5 Billion Dollars in cash to give to IRAN and provide an unmarked plane to deliver it! Oh wait, that was so he could help the terrorist countries fight against America. That sure is something YOU must be Proud to claim for Obama's accomplishments!

    "Anyone who thinks we were better off under Bush either has dementia or continues to want to believe a lie."

    Under Bush I think there was more pride in American people when he launched the Shock and Awe! We Americans got to see the latest technology that America had stored up over the silent years. I was very impressed with what America had in weapons and could do. I feared no country after that. That put a lot of people to work making ammunition and new uniforms. We saved more lives than we lost in 911.

    "Anyone who thinks racial conflicts are worse today than in the 50's and 60's need to read a history book." I don't need to read a History Book. I was there. The blacks had sit ins and rebelled against having their own restrooms, water fountains, schools and using the back doors. Back then it was something they didn't like. They wanted to be called "negro", then they wanted to be called "Colored" then it went to "Black" to "people of color". What is next?

    Today after they have won their civil rights - They have to use the same water fountains as the white. The same restrooms as the white. The same schools as the white. They still get to use the back door to establishments as employees. They get to go to any white college they are qualified to go to plus have their own black colleges, then complain their schools aren't as good as the white schools, that are no more, because they have the right to go to any of them.

    I never witnessed any blacks being hung for trying to vote. I never saw any crosses burning in anyone's front yard, but that doesn't mean it didn't happen. The KKK was very active back then in the past and so everyone today should be very happy they are only protesting today and not killing.

    "The only thing that has divided this country is hidden racist that in their cold hearts still can not get over a black president." It has nothing to do with a black or half black president. It is about a president who has not done anything to help or improve this country, but has done more destruction all over the world with Hillary's help.

    The Democrats do not hide their Racist remarks. Every thing out of their mouths is Racist. They have terrorized congress into not impeaching Obama.

    The Democrats and the Blacks are on the verge of creating a very hateful democratic party against President Trump that will Fuel the flames of hatred and Racism among the black race and the new "Brown People" Obama referred to in his farewell speech.

    "why is it just Obama you bring up?" Obama has spent enough of the money that has been charged to the United States.

    Obama took more vacations than any other President and Michelle had to fly on a separate Air Force One than with her Husband. Doubling the travel cost paid by the taxpayers and doubling the Climate Change pollution.

    He averaged almost 1 Trillion Dollars for each year in office and flushed the money down the toilet on Terrorist Countries, and fraudulent scams. He isn't entitled to get a retirement pay for his golf games and spending sprees.

    -- Posted by sui on Tue, Jan 10, 2017, at 9:57 PM
  • I have to admit that I cannot imagine what the Russians could have on Trump worse than what we already know.

    -- Posted by lazarus on Tue, Jan 10, 2017, at 10:38 PM
  • So Sui are you saying that blacks had the (privilege) of being segregated and did not appreciate it in the past?LOL.When you say blacks have to use the same facilities as whites,what do you mean?Most of the places in the south did not even have anywhere for blacks to use facilities,they had to use the woods.No one wants to walk 2 blocks to use a bathroom because of what is over the door of the closest one whether white or black.I see you thought segregation was fine. Bless you.

    As far as vacations Obama took less vacations than any other president,other than Carter who took 79 days.Obama took less than 200 days,George Bush took 879 and Reagan took 335.You would have to read to know this.

    No one has incited more hatred than Trump.

    The KKK created Dylan Roof.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Wed, Jan 11, 2017, at 12:06 AM
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    I didn't waste my time listening to b o give his farewell speech. But I'll bet he patted himself on the back and talked about all the great things he did. And his legacy. Wonder what he claimed as his legacy? I'll bet he didn't tell the truth about his legacy. His one and only legacy is The Trump Presidency.

    -- Posted by fair share on Wed, Jan 11, 2017, at 2:08 AM
  • Anybody in Shelbyville can get a job if they really want one.

    -- Posted by lets be real

    So there should be no one in the projects or on welfare in Shelbyville without a legitimate disability?

    More people are on welfare now than when obama took office.

    Our credit rating is still downgraded.

    95 million Americans not in the workforce.

    Home ownership rate the lowest since the 50s.

    43 million living in poverty

    Fed still not confident enough to raise rates.

    OTOH-

    Small business optimism is the highest since the 80s

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-01-10/u-s-small-business-optimism-i...

    -- Posted by quietmike on Wed, Jan 11, 2017, at 3:44 AM
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    Lbr?, did you happen to catch Trump's news conference today? BTW, did you pay off your bet yet? Just want to let you know that I am proud of you. Sounds like you are starting to get those synapses firing at the right time and in the right order, at least to some degree. At least you finally see that most of the people suckling at the government teat are doing so by choice, otherwise they would choose to get a job, which as you say, they can. I can't tell you how glad I am that you are finally coming around to the side of reason. Deep down, I somehow knew you had it in you. Great job!

    -- Posted by fair share on Wed, Jan 11, 2017, at 1:42 PM
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    LBR;

    You have to ask the blacks WHY? They were freed by the 14th Amendment, then put back in slavery under the same amendment without their even knowing it.

    Let's see, when was the 14th amendment ratified? Allegedly, Ratified July 9, 1868. So we see back in 1868 the Blacks were freed, given housing, and some were given land to build on, and pay for all the work they did.

    So why are they racist against the white today?

    Look at the women's right to Vote. The 19th amendment was ratified in 1920 but it wasn't until 1984 before all the states ratified their right to vote.

    We don't see women burning down their towns and looting stores as they burn. They don't go out killing law enforcement officers just because they weren't recognized as being equal to men. That was long after the 14th amendment that freed the black.

    I watched some of the Appointees being vetted. You could cut the racist from some of the blacks in the black caucus with a knife. That is where your Racist is coming from, The hatred in the minds and hearts of the blacks who were freed, not the White people.

    I also seen where the lawyer for Trump says the Law does not require the President of the United States to give up his businesses. Trump can keep all his businesses while being the POTUS. That should be the end of that argument.

    -- Posted by sui on Wed, Jan 11, 2017, at 4:28 PM
  • That is not the end of the argument because his lawyer was side stepping ths truth.He is not even smart enough to have a news conference by himself,today was a circus.Some questions he did not answer.He stated he has no dealings with Russia,that is not what his son said a few months back.His son Donald said they have plenty of money coming into their business from Russia,do they think no one is going to remember this.If he showed his taxes it could solve all this,but he continues to lie about an audit.Today he first said he learned about the info Russia had on him AFTER leaving the intelligence meeting and it did not come from them.A few minutes later he is accusing them of leaking it.Every thing he has done and said about others is coming back to bite him in the a**.All his skeletons are falling out of the closet and sooner than you think,golden showers and all.Trump and his folks want us to believe what Russia said about Hillary but not about him.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Wed, Jan 11, 2017, at 4:49 PM
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    Come on lbr?, you don't need to get pornographic about it. Please stop talking about golden showers.

    -- Posted by fair share on Wed, Jan 11, 2017, at 6:03 PM
  • Do you the difference between a chickpea and a garbanzo bean?

    Trump doesn't like to have a garbanzo bean on his face.

    -- Posted by Rocket Valentine on Thu, Jan 12, 2017, at 6:31 AM
  • The best "urine story" is still Hillary ******* away a billion dollar campaign.

    -- Posted by quietmike on Thu, Jan 12, 2017, at 7:14 AM
  • Still, it's better to be ****** off than ****** on...I always say.

    Unless you're Donald Trump and you enjoy that sort of thing.

    To each his own, I guess.

    -- Posted by Rocket Valentine on Thu, Jan 12, 2017, at 8:24 AM
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    It probably depends on the chick, don't you think?

    -- Posted by fair share on Thu, Jan 12, 2017, at 9:04 AM
  • I believe we have gone too far. If you wish this post to stay up, we need to get back on track please, or at least OFF the current track.

    -- Posted by stevemills on Thu, Jan 12, 2017, at 9:15 AM
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    Lbr?, what did Russia say about Trump? Are you talking about what shillary and her crew paid some has-been to make up? And what did Russia say about sick hilly? Wasn't it Podesta and her other hacks that said those things?

    -- Posted by fair share on Thu, Jan 12, 2017, at 9:44 AM
  • The answer from the Trump administration now when things go wrong is Hillary or the media. She is not in the picture. He can not use her to deflect from his lies anymore.It's not Hillarys feet that has to be held to the fire now,it's Trumps.He can not even wipe his nose without his 3 grown kids up his behind.Are they coming to every press conference and sitting in on classified meetings while running the business? Sure is a goodway to profit the business.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Thu, Jan 12, 2017, at 11:12 AM
  • Some one tell me what was the purpose of all the folders at Trumps press conference yesterday.He refused to let anyone touch them so why bring them.I am sure they were just as fake and empty as the ones he paid to cheer for him.Who cheers at a news conference?

    -- Posted by lets be real on Thu, Jan 12, 2017, at 1:03 PM
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    Lbr?, I think what is empty is your head. You should be excited and happy about the next eight years. After all, THAT is your buddy o'bummer's legacy.

    -- Posted by fair share on Thu, Jan 12, 2017, at 1:52 PM
  • Obama has to say this to Trump when he transfers the presidency....."I'm out, Urine."

    -- Posted by Rocket Valentine on Thu, Jan 12, 2017, at 2:18 PM
  • That was funny RV.Obama will have a better legacy than Chump will ever have because it will be so short.Trump has the lowest approval rating any incoming president has had.Obama is leaving with an approval rating of 57.No other president had over 20,000 people attend their farewell speech.Trump can not even get real performers for his inauguration.Trump will really get a kick out of SNL this Saturday,I hear they have all the information they need for the next Trump skits.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Thu, Jan 12, 2017, at 3:08 PM
  • However long the Trump presidency lasts, he no doubt will supply the late nights comics and SNL skits with an endless supply of material.

    It's sad that Trump and his supporters have made us the laughingstock of the world.

    But at this point, it's all we can do to just laugh along and hope we survive.

    -- Posted by Rocket Valentine on Thu, Jan 12, 2017, at 3:40 PM
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    We did survive the past 8 years despite being the laughingstock of the whole world. Now, finally, it is time to thrive. And who cares if the "stars" continue their little hissy fit? Most of them are too full of themselves anyway. If they had any worthwhileness to their name, they would do what they said and leave the country. Of course none of them (except maybe George Lopez) even threatened to go to Mexico---those racist pigs!

    -- Posted by fair share on Thu, Jan 12, 2017, at 4:05 PM
  • "We did survive the past 8 years despite being the laughingstock of the whole world."

    There is one place you are wrong. We just became the laughingstock of the world about two months ago. A lot of my business is international, and I just got back from a month in Europe. There was a lot of hemming and hawing as they tried to feel out how I would take the question, but every single person I had any significant dealings with eventually got around to asking me why the Americans elected a "clown." Of course, they are not laughing. Having lived their entire lives in the shadow of the Russian threat, it scares the h**ll out of them to have an incompetent as the President of the US. I have to admit, I did not hear the opinions of a fair distribution of Europeans. I was mostly in the company of business leaders and such. You know the sort; educated people. They may not have considered Obama the greatest President ever, but he was at least an adult. Whatever you might read on your websites, in real life we just became a laughingstock a couple of months ago.

    -- Posted by lazarus on Fri, Jan 13, 2017, at 12:40 AM
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    Next time you are in Europe you might want to track down some Limeys and ask them why they voted for Brexit. And yes, I know the people of whom you speak. Not particularly impressed by ivory tower education that isn't accompanied by some common sense and real world smarts.

    -- Posted by fair share on Fri, Jan 13, 2017, at 9:17 AM
  • Brexit is actually a completely different topic, with what connection to Trump? I am familiar with the issues involved, and have heard British opinions on both sides.

    As far as a disdain for education; I think that speaks for itself. Somehow my friends have managed to overcome that handicap to found and run successful businesses.

    -- Posted by lazarus on Fri, Jan 13, 2017, at 9:55 AM
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    The Brexit/Trump connection is the new direction at least our part of the world is headed in. My disdain is not for education per se, but the indoctrination associated with it that seems to be more pervasive the higher up the chain you go.

    -- Posted by fair share on Fri, Jan 13, 2017, at 10:18 AM
  • What new direction is that; backwards? The final outcome of the Brexit vote is years down the road, and the UK will be trying to retain as many of the advantages of the EU as possible, assuming they ever actually leave the EU, which is not a certainty. http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-32810887

    As far as the "indoctrination," indoctrinated with what? Math, science, problem solving skills, useless stuff like that?

    -- Posted by lazarus on Fri, Jan 13, 2017, at 11:16 AM
  • Seems to me it is only a matter of time before the dots are linked between Micheal Flynn ,the Trump campaign and the Russian hacking.Seems Flynn called and sent text messages to Russian ambassador of a communist leader on Dec 28th.Now he stated he called and wished him a Merry Christmas.Why would you wish a communist Merry Christmas when they are atheists.This should concern all Americans.

    Trump was happy to tweet today about repealing insurance for 20 million americans.The ones voting to repeal this should lose their government insurance also.They have no replacement after 8 years of complaining about this.So all you red state Trump supporters should be jumping for joy when you get your insurance cancelations in the mail.Some of these people were foolish enough to believe that the ACA was not the same as Obamacare.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Fri, Jan 13, 2017, at 12:29 PM
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    Math and science is great. But they indoctrinate them with libtardness. I really am surprised you didn't know that. But then, that is how indoctrination works. Still, surprising in an enlightened one such as you.

    -- Posted by fair share on Fri, Jan 13, 2017, at 12:29 PM
  • Your world must be a very scary place.

    -- Posted by lazarus on Fri, Jan 13, 2017, at 1:26 PM
  • It's the republican alternate reality bubble.

    -- Posted by Rocket Valentine on Fri, Jan 13, 2017, at 2:41 PM
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    As I have said before, I am not registered with any political party. I have voted both ways over the years. Granted, it is usually republican, but that is only because they usually come closer to talking/acting the way I think. Which, if you didn't know, is the right way. Not that I think you and yours should not be able to use your right to think wrongly. That is one of the things that is still great about America. And I am reminded of that every day, more so lately than ever before. My world is a happy, safe space. Not because I drink hot chocolate and color in books, but because I make it that way. If you are counting on government (even the best, most appropriate) to make your world happy and safe, then you will continue to experience sore disappointment. And I really do feel sorry for you. Because their is a better way.

    -- Posted by fair share on Fri, Jan 13, 2017, at 3:22 PM
  • It's always hilarious that dems believe more intelligent and educated people can't run their lives without government programs.

    -- Posted by quietmike on Fri, Jan 13, 2017, at 5:05 PM
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    Quite right, quietmike. Altho I care for you and everyone else, I'm not arrogant enough to think I care more for you than you do. Tho I don't doubt there are some that I do care for more than they do. Which is sad. But it really blows my mind that a lot of people seem to think anonymous burrocrats (ie jackasses) in a cubicle far, far away are more interested in their well being than they are. Sure doesn't seem like there should be nearly that many mentally ill people out there.

    -- Posted by fair share on Fri, Jan 13, 2017, at 6:23 PM
  • Democrat "logic"

    People are incapable of running their own lives and making intelligent decisions for themselves.

    Someone who wins a popularity contest is suddenly qualified to run the lives of millions.

    -- Posted by quietmike on Sat, Jan 14, 2017, at 6:39 AM
  • And someone who lost the vote of the people by 3 million is qualified to run the lives of the majority who voted against him.That is why he is entering the white house with the lowest approval rating of any president.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Sat, Jan 14, 2017, at 10:23 AM
  • LBR,

    Let me break it down so you might understand.

    I've constantly said the feds have too much power and the majority of things the feds do need to be returned to the states or local governments.

    Democrats have spent all their political capital trying to give the feds more power over everything, from their retirement to condoms.

    Now that a non democrat is in office they are rightly terrified at the power that he wields.

    If democrats had any sense at all, they'd try to retain their rights and have less government intrusion, but the last 100 years has shown that not to be the case.

    FWIW-I don't like the idea of Trump (or any president) having so much power, and that is the reason I absolutely despise democrats as they are the ones always whining "There ought to be a law".

    -- Posted by quietmike on Sat, Jan 14, 2017, at 11:09 AM
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    I can't remember when I have had so much fun. At least over 8 years ago, if ever. I would caution the whiners and criers just a bit. Don't forget to drink a lot of Gatorade. You wouldn't want to get dehydrated.

    -- Posted by fair share on Sat, Jan 14, 2017, at 11:11 AM
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