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Steve Mills

Has every presidency been judged like Trump's, before it ever starts?

Posted Tuesday, January 10, 2017, at 10:04 PM
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    The peace loving, inclusive, tolerant liberals only hate those that don't agree with them. Trump isn't a typical conservative. He definitely has some liberal in him. But I think he is way more conservative than hillary. Most of all, he is a pragmatic problem solver. Her dream opponent turned out to be her worst nightmare. And the funny thing is, she would have won against any of the other GOP candidates. Steve, you are absolutely right. Trump could take hillary's agenda word for word and at least the dems would never see it. They have said "racist, homophobe, islamophobe, etc" so long and so loud that they can't stop. Which leads to the answer to your question title. No presidency has been pre-judged like Trump's.

    -- Posted by fair share on Wed, Jan 11, 2017, at 1:40 AM
  • To be fair, Steve; No President Elect has ever made so many inflammatory statements as Trump. As a matter of fact, remaining in the eye of the media is Trump's modus operandi. As a candidate, he reaped far greater media exposure than the best financed campaigns in history. It would seem from the outside that seeing his name in the news is his lifeblood.

    Look at his campaign. It was a tumultuous circus, filled with wild proclamations, which were subject hourly to being changed, denied, or doubled down if they were popular. They say that all publicity is good publicity, and for Trump it seemed that bad publicity was his best publicity. Besides firing up an auditorium full of supporters with hackneyed lines, what did he do well?

    The transition has been more of the same. Is that a surprise? What, exactly do you expect from his presidency? I found it interesting that the years the Trump supporters came up with as "great" were the years of World War 2 and the Korean war. So, it seems that the fears of his opponents and the hopes of his supporters are fairly close to the same thing.

    -- Posted by lazarus on Wed, Jan 11, 2017, at 8:19 AM
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    Laz, I think you are confusing this post with a previous one. The years I mentioned as ones that America was great was just a partial list. Probably one of your liberal heroes, Tom Brokaw of that bastion of truth and honesty, NBC, wrote a book once. Again the suggestion you might want to read a book. "The Greatest Generation". If you don't think America was great then, then you are a whole lot dumber than I give you credit for. Sadly, at this point in time, we wouldn't be able to accomplish anything close to what we did back then. Too many snowfakes and libtards. But give it 4-8 years and maybe we could. As for the years I listed in the 50s, they are the birth years of some of the people I admire most. As you (should) know, the Korean (War) Police Action is ongoing. Regarding the fears of Trump's opponents and the hopes of his supporters being close to the same thing, wrong again. The rank and file opponents have irrational fear of unrealistic potentialities fanned by people that know better but are just following the playbook outlined by their old buddy Chicago Saul. On the other hand, the hopes of his supporters is a real hope for real change for the betterment of the Country and All the people.

    -- Posted by fair share on Wed, Jan 11, 2017, at 1:27 PM
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    I, just like everyone else in this country, have over spoke what Trump is doing. It takes us a while for everything to soak in.

    What Trump said is "Make America Great Again". Everyone has put emphasis on "Again"! He meant "Great Again", but not like anything or any time in the past.

    Trump intends to move FORWARD into the Future and make America a "Lean, Green, Fighting Machine" that will not have to prove what it can do.

    We need to just shut up now and sit back and watch what he does and how he does it. Trump is the only one who needs to know what he is going to do and how he will do it. We just need to let him do what he said he would do, but we have to let him get in office first.

    -- Posted by sui on Wed, Jan 11, 2017, at 5:05 PM
  • Now that it's apparent Trump will be bringing jobs back from overseas, liberals have changed tactics.

    The NY Times printed an article lamenting the plight of mexicans now that Ford abandoned plans for a new manufacturing plant in mexico, so they could build in the US instead.

    -- Posted by quietmike on Wed, Jan 11, 2017, at 6:34 PM
  • Democrats hired a British spy to try to find dirt on Trump, then have the audacity to complain about foreign influence?

    http://abcnews.go.com/US/british-spy-gathered-unsubstantiated-intel-trump-offici...

    -- Posted by quietmike on Wed, Jan 11, 2017, at 6:55 PM
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    Next thing you know, they will be blaming Trump for the illegal immigration problem---luring them here with all the new jobs! But for now, b o is right about one thing. They are only doing the job Americans just won't do---vote democrat.

    -- Posted by fair share on Wed, Jan 11, 2017, at 8:55 PM
  • I am just tired of hearing Trump mention Fake News when he gets the award for creating more than any news media,for instance the birther issue.No Other pres-elect has stuped as low as Trump,not even Nixon brfore taking office.Sui when you say Trump is the only one who needs to know what he is going to do and how he will do it you talk like someone who has lost all their marbles.No other pres-elect has created a circus like atmosphere.No other pres-elect screamed at the media for holding him accountable for his actions and lies.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Wed, Jan 11, 2017, at 9:56 PM
  • Trump didn't create the birther issue, Hillary's campaign did.

    -- Posted by quietmike on Thu, Jan 12, 2017, at 3:22 AM
  • Prove it quitemike.We are still waiting for Trumps report on this after he claimed he had evidence from special investigators.We are still waiting on Melanias news conference about her immigration status.Over half of Americans want to see his taxes as he is telling us we don't want to see them.

    As you can see he cares more about his pocket than running the country.He wanted to be president but not follow the rules of any other president.What was his words "I could care less about my business".Anyone who believes he will not talk to his sons about business is delusional.Will americans agree with him when he wines and dines heads of foreign countries and lets them stay in his hotels while discussing our business with them.Are americans going to just take his word that profit from this will go to the treasury dept without being able to see his taxes?We have seen how good he is at keeping his word,ha ha.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Thu, Jan 12, 2017, at 10:50 AM
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    Don't worry too much about things lbr?. Eight years isn't really that long in the overall scheme of things.

    -- Posted by fair share on Thu, Jan 12, 2017, at 1:24 PM
  • Are you nuts did you forget what Trump ,himself did to Obama. And is still trying to ruin him.

    -- Posted by ruckers on Thu, Jan 12, 2017, at 2:20 PM
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    Obama ruined himself and took a lot of us with him.

    -- Posted by fair share on Thu, Jan 12, 2017, at 4:07 PM
  • -- Posted by quietmike on Thu, Jan 12, 2017, at 5:21 PM
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    Looks like Ms Doyle was pretty red faced about the whole ordeal.

    -- Posted by fair share on Thu, Jan 12, 2017, at 5:26 PM
  • C'mon Mike...the Washington Times is a tabloid paper that has a history of false stories and shoddy reporting.

    Your link proves that point, as that story has been thoroughly debunked. At some point I would think you'd begin to feel foolish for being so gullible.

    http://www.snopes.com/hillary-clinton-started-birther-movement/

    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/sep/16/donald-trump/fact...

    -- Posted by Rocket Valentine on Thu, Jan 12, 2017, at 6:02 PM
  • Maybe we should get the real news from where Trump gets his news,from the National Enquirer.LOL.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Thu, Jan 12, 2017, at 7:12 PM
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    Whatever works for you.

    -- Posted by fair share on Thu, Jan 12, 2017, at 7:55 PM
  • I am so glad the media is finally holding Trumps feet to the fire when he lies.Now he compares the CIA to Nazi Germany and lied about what James Clapper told him.He is the one who is weakening Americas reputation abroad.He is to stupid to realize why Putin wants him as president.It is because they know he has no experience and will not listen to anyone.Putin knows he can not manipulate Clinton.Trump knows nothing about running a country and he is surrounding himself with others who do not know either.He really trashed Goldman Sachs the last year,now he is appointing his 5th Goldman Sachs person to his cabinet.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Thu, Jan 12, 2017, at 10:34 PM
  • Using Snopes and Politifact to rebut "fake news"?

    Politifact is a liberal hack group formed from the Tampa Bay Times who has been caught red handed lying for Democrats.

    Snopes......

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/kalevleetaru/2016/12/22/the-daily-mail-snopes-story-...

    -- Posted by quietmike on Fri, Jan 13, 2017, at 3:30 AM
  • Mike, What I always do is also research the findings of snopes and politifact. I usually find them to be pretty reliable. Just as in the case of debunking your Washington Times story.

    Point by point, they prove your claim to be false.

    And if you disagree with the findings, then go ahead and present some facts that prove otherwise.

    If not, then be man enough to admit that you've been duped again by the right-wing propaganda.

    It's either that, or you know your claims are false but you present them as fact anyway.

    Whether it's ignorance or deception, neither will serve you well.

    -- Posted by Rocket Valentine on Fri, Jan 13, 2017, at 5:26 AM
  • Once again your mouth works faster than your brain. (should give credit to a democrat working at all)

    You said you research the findings of snopes and politifact (if you actually did this, you wouldn't need to use them as you could produce your own research, which you have been completely unable to do on several occasions).

    If you did any research, you'd see neither article mentions Ms. Doyle's claims, so it cannot be refuted by them.

    Try again.

    -- Posted by quietmike on Fri, Jan 13, 2017, at 11:08 AM
  • Also maybe you can explain how your independent research led you to the conclusion that the Snopes article refutes the Times article when the Times article was written 8 days after the Snopes piece?

    The politifact piece was written the same day. I guess their researchers are a crack commando unit, just waiting to pounce.

    -- Posted by quietmike on Fri, Jan 13, 2017, at 12:54 PM
  • The forwarded e-mails that Ms. Doyle said were sent by a volunteer staffer (from your link)are also referenced in the politifact article.

    You've proven many times that reading comprehension isn't your strongest suit. But that's ok, being you're one of the conservatives that frequents these blogs I'm going to give you extra bonus points for just graduating from the 6th grade, (you did, right?)

    Let's look at this whole argument. Trump was on this "birther" rampage for almost five years. He was the loudest and most outspoken voice declaring President Obama was not an American citizen, and even claiming that his birth certificate was a "fraud".

    Now, years later, after everything about Obama's citizenship has been proven once and for all, Trump has to find a way not to look like a total fool for leading everyone on his wild goose chase.

    So....hey, let's blame it on Clinton!

    And the evidence is......that supposedly a volunteer Clinton staffer somewhere forwarded a email that said Obama was a Muslim.

    So that sent Trump on his five year fishing expedition, going on every television show that would listen, and make his claims that Obama wasn't a U.S. citizen.

    Just like Trump won't admit to mocking the disabled reporter, or saying disparaging remarks about women, he also now wants to blame his "birther movement" on someone else.

    And you buy right into it.

    The word "gullible" in the dictionary must have your picture right beside it.

    -- Posted by Rocket Valentine on Fri, Jan 13, 2017, at 1:53 PM
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    OR..... maybe Trump was just playing politics better than the professionals. Either way, he won. Whether he was a great politician and beat them at their own game, or she was such a ****-poor one, or some combination, either/all ways, he won. End of story. Except for the part where we start down the road to becoming great again. Stay tuned. Start time in 7 days. Can't wait.

    -- Posted by fair share on Fri, Jan 13, 2017, at 3:00 PM
  • RV,

    So a volunteer working for the Clinton campaign doesn't count as the Clinton campaign?

    With the ability to split hairs like that, you should work in genetic engineering.

    -- Posted by quietmike on Fri, Jan 13, 2017, at 5:02 PM
  • No a volunteer working for a campaign does not count,they could be a plant. It was Trump that kept this going.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Fri, Jan 13, 2017, at 7:14 PM
  • So Trump hired volunteers to help Hillary's campaign?

    Wonder how much worse she'd have lost without them?

    -- Posted by quietmike on Sat, Jan 14, 2017, at 6:36 AM
  • Yeah, who knows. Maybe she'd have gotten 5 million more votes than Trump, instead of only beating him by 3 million votes.

    -- Posted by Rocket Valentine on Sat, Jan 14, 2017, at 7:57 AM
  • Beating him?

    More liberal alternate reality?

    She lost, and lost huge.

    She spent over a billion dollars on her campaign and had the biggest political machine since the Kennedys, and she still couldn't pull it off.

    -- Posted by quietmike on Sat, Jan 14, 2017, at 9:15 AM
  • Oh ok, so now you're denying that Trump lost to Clinton in the popular vote count too?

    Donald Trump will enter the White House having the lowest percentage of popular votes since 1824. And also the lowest approval rating in recent history.

    But in your alternate reality bubble, "she lost huge."

    I guess you're buying that kool-aid by the keg now?

    -- Posted by Rocket Valentine on Sat, Jan 14, 2017, at 11:05 AM
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    I heard she got a big payday from NYC over New Years. They wanted her expertise in dropping the ball at the last second.

    -- Posted by fair share on Sat, Jan 14, 2017, at 11:06 AM
  • RV

    The popular vote is completely irrelevant, except as an avenue for liberal whining and crying.

    When I said Hillary lost, people with a fully functional brain know that means she won't get sworn in next Friday.

    Not surprisingly, you needed it explained further.

    -- Posted by quietmike on Sat, Jan 14, 2017, at 11:21 AM
  • Isn't it ironic that Trump is upset because someone thinks he is not a legitimate president when he has spent the last 5 years delegitimatizing Obama.

    Looks as though the republicans in DC are ready to threaten any groups that investigate Trump and his campaigns connection to Russia during the campaign.Seems Flynn contacted Russia several times Dec 29th,the day Obama removed Russian diplomats from America.

    I see performers are still dropping out or the inauguration,yesterday Paul Anka,today Jennifer Holiday.Maybe he can get Putin to ride his horse since it will be a circus.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Sat, Jan 14, 2017, at 11:44 AM
  • Obama delegitimized himself.

    He is a pathetic joke.

    Look at how many congressional and gubernatorial seats dems have lost since Obama took office.

    -- Posted by quietmike on Sat, Jan 14, 2017, at 12:16 PM
  • .....as President Obama leaves the White House with a 55% approval rating and Trump enters with 37%.

    I think it's obvious who the real joke is.

    -- Posted by Rocket Valentine on Sat, Jan 14, 2017, at 12:34 PM
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    Don't worry about the entertainment at the inauguration, lbr?. Even if the whiny snowflakes won't be there, you can count on the Talladega College Marching Band to show up. Should make you proud. I know it does me.

    -- Posted by fair share on Sat, Jan 14, 2017, at 1:03 PM
  • 55% aporoval rating.

    Amazing what spending 10 trillion on losers will buy you.

    -- Posted by quietmike on Sat, Jan 14, 2017, at 1:13 PM
  • BTW-Those are the same polls that said Hillary would win in a landslide.

    -- Posted by quietmike on Sat, Jan 14, 2017, at 1:19 PM
  • Well, she did get 3 million more votes than Trump.

    They weren't totally wrong.

    -- Posted by Rocket Valentine on Sat, Jan 14, 2017, at 1:30 PM
  • No other president has entered the office with such baggage and already under investigation.He does not like sanctions against Russia because it does not benefit his buddies financially.Mainly Tillerson who wants Exxon to profit from those 63 million acres of drilling land in Russia that sanctions stopped in its tracks.His rhetoric against CIA and pro Russian stance is anti-american.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Sat, Jan 14, 2017, at 2:18 PM
  • Yes, totally wrong.

    Once again for the painfully slow, the popular vote is meaningless.

    -- Posted by quietmike on Sat, Jan 14, 2017, at 2:54 PM
  • Why can't Trump just bomb people in 7 different countries instead of trying to be peaceful with Russia?

    -- Posted by quietmike on Sat, Jan 14, 2017, at 2:56 PM
  • Hard to believe a looney, left lib will actually insult all readers of this blog by stating, "Donald Trump will enter the White House having the lowest percentage of popular votes since 1824."

    On second thought it is not hard to believe. This arrogant looney lib thinks no one can possibly have his/her/it's intelligence.

    In 1993 one Slick Willy Clinton with his wonderful wife, who is nearly as intelligent as RV, "entered the White House" with 43% of the popular vote.

    Just another example of the ARROGANCE and DISHONESTY of the left. I'm sure we will get a pithy explanation of why the plain meaning of the simple words used really have an esoteric meaning above our understanding.

    As a another point, Slick Willy reentered the White House in 1997 with well less than a majority of of the popular vote.

    -- Posted by cmcclanahan on Sat, Jan 14, 2017, at 5:24 PM
  • It's not about his politics or his policy proposals. It is about his character and his outlandish ability to alienate everyone but his hardcore supporters.

    -- Posted by devan on Sat, Jan 14, 2017, at 7:11 PM
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    Good thing for shillary that she didn't have to worry about character. On second thought, if she had developed just a little, she would have won as bad as you libs think she did.

    Mike, if Trump started bombing people instead of trying to make peace with Russia, the left would ***** and moan instead of worship him like they did b o. Their schizophrenic switch has been flipped.

    -- Posted by fair share on Sat, Jan 14, 2017, at 8:17 PM
  • Carl, first off...I'd like to thank you for comparing my intelligence with former First Lady and Secretary of State Clinton. I'm truly honored, as she is a brilliant lady.

    But it shouldn't be hard for you to believe that I could make the claim about Trumps historically low popular vote numbers, as I posted the exact same thing in one of your own blogs.

    But you had one of your now famous hissy-fits and deleted it.

    So I don't really think I should waste my time explaining it to you again.

    Evidently the first time I did it just had a esoteric meaning that was beyond your understanding anyway. So why bother?

    -- Posted by Rocket Valentine on Sat, Jan 14, 2017, at 8:57 PM
  • What it say about a pres-elect when he can't even get a B rated band to play at his inauguration?Seems 3 Doors Down has backed out.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Mon, Jan 16, 2017, at 4:19 PM
  • Do you suppose they are getting pressure from any anti-Trump groups? Wouldn't that be depriving them of being able to re-kindle their careers?

    Sounds kind of mean-hearted.

    I can't believe how much hate is coming from a side that criticizes Trump for being hateful.

    -- Posted by stevemills on Mon, Jan 16, 2017, at 5:21 PM
  • Telling the truth about someone is not hateful but lying as he does is another story.

    Performers realize that they do not want to support Trumps hateful racist rhetoric even though some continue to make excuses for his behavior.

    when fans refuse to support them they will have no career.They do not think he is worth ruining their careers.

    As far a being judged like other presidents Trump and his crew is not being judged as bad as Obama was.Some seemed to forget the tea party protesting holding signs portraying Obama as a monkey with a banana,calling him unamerican,not a US citizen and a muslim terrorist.Mitch McConnell anounced on national TV that they will not work with him and making him a one term president would be their number one goal.This was all before he took office. How soon some forget.Trump better hope the republicans do not show him the same respect they showed Obama,which was none.Even as much as Trump lies,I will bet you will not hear "you lie" during his state of the union speech.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Mon, Jan 16, 2017, at 7:39 PM
  • Seems now even Israeli intelligence fears Trump's administration will funnel their secrets to Putin,since he is so cosy with him.Trump thought the world did not respect Obama,looks as if they are laughing at him.No country is going to take him serious.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Mon, Jan 16, 2017, at 10:46 PM
  • "Do you suppose they are getting pressure from any anti-Trump groups?....I can't believe how much hate is coming from a side that criticizes Trump for being hateful."

    Quite a rapid transition from "Do you suppose" to a conclusion based on that supposition being true. Do you suppose that these performers are reading the endless stream of crazy tweets coming from Trump, and deciding even playing at the inauguration is not worth being connected to him?

    -- Posted by lazarus on Mon, Jan 16, 2017, at 11:56 PM
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    Come on guys, don't worry so much about which entertainers don't have the patriotism to show up to celebrate the peaceful transfer of power. They need to stay home and sip their hot chocolate til they develop the fortitude to put on their big boy/girl panties and join the real world. But never fear, the Talladega College Marching Band will be there. As will MLK's niece. And b o and shillary and slick willy. They would be hard pressed to find 30 some extra seats for Lewis and his buddies.

    Laz, I have a rhetorical question for you : do you know what a rhetorical question is?

    -- Posted by fair share on Tue, Jan 17, 2017, at 1:11 AM
  • Trump cozy with Putin?

    Who was caught with an open microphone telling the Russians that he'd have more flexibility after the election?

    Is hypocrisy a prerequisite of being a democrat?

    -- Posted by quietmike on Tue, Jan 17, 2017, at 2:52 AM
  • A cache of guns and homemade silencers found hidden along the Potomac.

    http://www.fox5dc.com/news/local-news/227359746-story

    -- Posted by quietmike on Tue, Jan 17, 2017, at 3:00 AM
  • Sorry, typically rhetorical questions have obvious answers. I never really saw Steve as part of this whole victim mentality, where mysterious enemies and shadowy conspiracies are taken as a given. My question was not rhetorical. Do you suppose that these entertainers just do not want to go?

    -- Posted by lazarus on Tue, Jan 17, 2017, at 8:38 AM
  • The last I heard, their karaoke machine is even refusing to play.

    -- Posted by Rocket Valentine on Tue, Jan 17, 2017, at 8:53 AM
  • The whining and crying of liberals will be all the entertainment we'll need.

    -- Posted by quietmike on Tue, Jan 17, 2017, at 10:40 AM
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    The answers to Steve's questions are obvious to anyone whose mind lets their eyes see clearly. But those on the left who are clouded with the victim mentality (most of them) are doomed to a rough 8 years. It will be interesting to watch in a few days the rabble rousers trying to get thru the Bikers for Trump wall of meat.

    -- Posted by fair share on Tue, Jan 17, 2017, at 10:43 AM
  • Trump is dividing the country even more with his childish tweets.Trump has a right to defend himself against John Lewis but he can not let it go and stop tweeting.He said the same thing about Obama for the last 6 years.The division has come to more about what is right or wrong rather than about skin color.There will be people of all races protesting Saturday together.

    When a republican Rep got arrested for grabing a womans genitals a few days ago he said" I no longer have to be politically correct anymore".This is wrong and we have a pres-elect who upholds this and his supporters think it is okay.

    His supporters think it is okay that Cabinet pick Price bought shares in a company days before introducing a bill that would benefit the firm.This use to be called corruption.His suporters see nothing wrong with him filling his cabinet with wall street billionaries that caused the recession.

    Trump did not drain the swamp and he will drown in it.

    I am eager to see how they will feel when he cuts their health insurance.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Tue, Jan 17, 2017, at 11:03 AM
  • Hold tight America Trump wont last 8 years,he will tweet himself out of office with his little fingers.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Tue, Jan 17, 2017, at 11:10 AM
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    Lbr?, if you want to know about the cause of the recession, look into guvment over-regulation of various financial industries. The guvment required loans to be made to anyone who might have a pulse. Do you really think that the billionaires wanted a recession and the value of what they had to go down? But I see your point, how dare Trump want people that are successful to help him run the country. Speaking of Lewis ( and Waters and people like them) he/they have the right to say and act like they want. Even if it leaves a black mark on them and Congress. Feel free to follow your PC dreams but don't expect the rest of us to wallow with the shackles of political correctness.

    -- Posted by fair share on Tue, Jan 17, 2017, at 11:29 AM
  • Whenever I hear someone mention "bikers for Trump", I can't help but to think of the bikers from the "Any which way but loose" movies.

    https://youtu.be/V0LA1TKbWxo

    -- Posted by Rocket Valentine on Tue, Jan 17, 2017, at 11:47 AM
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    Don't worry RV, you are in good (at least a lot of) company. Too many people nowadays, if being honest, would have to say "I can't help but to think".

    -- Posted by fair share on Tue, Jan 17, 2017, at 12:28 PM
  • The billionaires did not suffer in the recession. They profited from it.

    -- Posted by lazarus on Tue, Jan 17, 2017, at 1:34 PM
  • One of his cabinet picks is known as Mr Foreclosure in California and made millions off hard working americans.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Tue, Jan 17, 2017, at 2:53 PM
  • LBR I am sure you quoted a reliable, non-fake news source about the man grabbing a woman so could you post it.

    Google and Safari are returning reports from sites with weird sounding names. The age seems to keep changing and the quote about being politically correct seems to be muddy too.

    Assault & battery is assault & battery and if a man (or woman) grabs someone anywhere, it is assault and should be prosecuted. That is not a politically correct issue, it is law in my opinion.

    -- Posted by stevemills on Tue, Jan 17, 2017, at 4:15 PM
  • Car companies are finally getting tired of Trump taking credit for them increasing jobs and plants in america some that have been in the making for years.Like GM said you don't decide to build a plant overnight.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Tue, Jan 17, 2017, at 5:50 PM
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    I'll bet Bradley Manning is doing his happy dance right about now. Thanks to b o, he gets to walk (sashay?) scott free in May. Unbelievable.

    -- Posted by fair share on Tue, Jan 17, 2017, at 5:50 PM
  • All you need to do is type in Chris von Keyserling in Greenwich Conn and see it all.I saw this on a TV news station,well known republican Rep Keyserling charged with fourth degree assault after grabbing womans genitals.This has been in Times,Washington Post and Greenwich Times local news.

    Assange said he would turn himself in if Obama did that for Manning,we will see.

    Looks like the same band will have to play for all 3 days of inauguration celebration since no one else will.LOL

    -- Posted by lets be real on Tue, Jan 17, 2017, at 6:23 PM
  • I saw the arrest info. What about the quote about not having to be politically correct? ? Did he really say that it was it added by someone to make a point?

    -- Posted by stevemills on Tue, Jan 17, 2017, at 6:59 PM
  • According to the Times and others this is in the warrant what he said to the woman "I just love this new world,I no longer have to be politically correct". He thought it was all a big joke.At least he was caught on camera.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Tue, Jan 17, 2017, at 9:10 PM
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    "Looks like the same band will have to play for all 3 days of inauguration celebration since no one else will.LOL

    I'll bet the Talladega College Marching Band Tornadoes would be more than willing and able to cover all 3 days. And if you care to be transparent about it, most of the "stars" claiming they won't play never really refused to because they weren't asked.

    -- Posted by fair share on Tue, Jan 17, 2017, at 9:49 PM
  • Everyone knows Trump likes to do everything YUGE.Kellyanne Conway made a plea on national TV a few weeks ago asking Justin Timberlake and Bruno Mars to call her to be part of the festivities.This is just some that was asked and refused Elton John,Timberlake,Bruno Mars,Katy Perry,Aretha Franklin,Paul Anka,Garth Brooks,Andrea Bocelli and Celine Dion.I bet Trump is foaming at the mouth banging his head against the wall because no one is suppose to say no to him.

    Seems as if Melania has had enough of him,she is leaving for New York right after the inauguration.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Tue, Jan 17, 2017, at 11:53 PM
  • Fair share you keep mentioning the Talladega band.They will only be used as a photo op for Trump.Seems none of the college bands that usually play at inaugurations from DC would perform.He could care less about these kids.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Wed, Jan 18, 2017, at 12:29 AM
  • The latest, and this is no joke. Trump had a Bruce Springsteen cover band booked to play the inauguration party, but they backed out too.

    Trump ran his campaign on being the "deal maker" businessman. And he can't even seal the deal on booking a Springsteen cover band?

    You have to admit...that is pathetic

    -- Posted by Rocket Valentine on Wed, Jan 18, 2017, at 11:00 AM
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    Lbr?, contrary to what you and your buddies think, the Talladega College Marching Band is not a bunch of Uncle Toms and Aunt Tomis. They are decent young adults willing to stand up to the hatred, bigotry, and racism spewed by you people on the radical alt left. I have a lot of respect for them. For you and people like you, what I have is pity. Because Michael Savage is right--- liberalism is a mental disorder. What would help this country greatly would be to have more people like the young adults from Talladega and fewer anti-American alt lefters. Enjoy your last 48 hours. Friday 11 AM local time is the end of an error.

    -- Posted by fair share on Wed, Jan 18, 2017, at 11:18 AM
  • Somewhere above it was mentioned that the musical acts that backed out were thinking of their careers. Assuming that they were really asked in the first place and committed, that would imply mean that the spiteful, hate-filled opposition to Trump are living the exact thing they accuse Trump of being.

    The PC crowd is still patrolling the halls and intimidating anyone who would dare think for themselves. The pot calling the kettle black?

    -- Posted by stevemills on Wed, Jan 18, 2017, at 11:36 AM
  • And here we have it folks....

    The headliners and A-list performers for the Donald Trump inauguration party.

    Please welcome the Podunk Alabama marching band!!!

    https://youtu.be/iPwUEt_PzKE

    -- Posted by Rocket Valentine on Wed, Jan 18, 2017, at 11:52 AM
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    Steve, more like all the pot-heads calling everyone that doesn't conform to their weird way of thinking, "black". It really is sad seeing them sink to this level. If nearly half the country really thinks that way then probably even Trump can't bring us back from the ledge they are trying to run us over. But I really think once they see how much better life is, they will at least tone it back a bit. Assuming their brains are still capable of at least minimum functionality.

    Enjoy the next 2 days RV. The Talladega College Marching Band is more of a man than you will ever be.

    -- Posted by fair share on Wed, Jan 18, 2017, at 1:20 PM
  • I know who the Talladega band is,they are a group of kids trying to get an education.No one here thinks of them as uncle Toms fair share those were on your mind.I have a lot of respect for them and this is a chance of a life time.It is a shame these same kids could be shot down on the street as thugs and some would not even care.You do not know what political party these kids belong too.If one of these kids stand up for hatred and racism they would also be called anti-american.I will just bet they are democrats just like their parents.

    Trump supporters will think Friday 11 AM will be the beginning of hell when they lose their insurance.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Wed, Jan 18, 2017, at 3:47 PM
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    Lbr?, it doesn't matter what party they or their parents might be in. So far, I have joined none.

    If you haven't figured it out yet, actions speak much louder than words, at least to me. I could (not)care less what nationality, religion, ethnicity, or party they come from. The only thing I see is what they are doing. And since I see them doing the right thing, I am happy to tell you and everyone else that they are. You may now be willing to agree that they are worthwhile and doing the right thing, but what about RV and some of the others on the fringe left? I have to admit Lbr?, occasionally I am surprised by someone on the left that says something reasonable. Kudos to you. Don't worry about the kids from Alabama----they will be protected by the wall of meat from your lib-tarted buddies on the alt left.

    -- Posted by fair share on Wed, Jan 18, 2017, at 4:38 PM
  • "He could care less about these kids."

    You have no basis to make that statement. That requires that you be able to see what is in someone else's mind.You can criticize his words and actions, but you have no way to judge what he thinks.

    -- Posted by lazarus on Wed, Jan 18, 2017, at 4:40 PM
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    Laz, don't you know by now Lbr? says stuff that sometimes just doesn't make any sense? Rarely she will say something reasonable, but most of the time it is nonsense.

    -- Posted by fair share on Wed, Jan 18, 2017, at 5:18 PM
  • This is about the most specious argument ya'll have ever had. This has nothing to do with whether the performers like or hate Trump. It has nothing to do with some mysterious "anti-Trump" gangs, or PC police which by some unspecified mechanism are able to order performers around. This is about selling products. Remember the Dixie Chicks? Performers take political stands at their own risk. Especially unpopular political stands. You need to remember, the majority of Americans do not like Trump. That majority is even larger among the young....Remember the young? Those are the people who *buy* music. Now, under ordinary circumstances a performer could appear at the inauguration based on the prestige of the event. I cannot remember when an inauguration was as politicized as this one. But, that is largely a byproduct of Trump's non-stop offensive statements. The marching band does not have any commercial interest on the line. So, they can go for the prestige of playing at an inauguration. They are not going for the benefit of Trump. They are going because it is a big deal to play at an inauguration. It would not matter if we had elected a 3-toed sloth (a much better alternative in my opinion).

    -- Posted by lazarus on Wed, Jan 18, 2017, at 5:22 PM
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    Whether anyone goes or doesn't go, it is not for the benefit of or detriment of Trump. It is for the benefit of or detriment of the country. Friday is not about Trump, it is about the USA and the peaceful transfer of power. I don't doubt Laz, that you think a 3 toed sloth would be a better alternative, for you, than Trump. I know change is hard, more so for some than others. I certainly understand you wanting to keep things the same as you have become accustomed to.

    -- Posted by fair share on Wed, Jan 18, 2017, at 6:37 PM
  • Clearly you have not been paying attention to your great leader. It is all about Trump. It will always be all about Trump for however long this lasts. He can tolerate nothing else. As far as change... things always change. Always have, always will. You adapt to change, or perish.

    -- Posted by lazarus on Wed, Jan 18, 2017, at 8:29 PM
  • We just saw probably the last press conference today in the white house since Trump is removing them from the white house.Trump thinks america only needs to know he tells them.

    Obama has just made history as the first black president.He is leaving the white house with an approval rating of 60 and no scandals.He was a calm president and thought before he spoke,unlike the pres-elect who tweets and never thinks.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Wed, Jan 18, 2017, at 9:38 PM
  • Now we have a man coming into office under investigation for ties to Russia,just paid out a 25 million dollar lawsuit for Trump U fraud and pending lawsuits from numerous women for sexual groping.

    Where is Melania?She was a no show at the dinner last night.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Wed, Jan 18, 2017, at 10:25 PM
  • No scandals.

    The stupidity is too much.

    -- Posted by quietmike on Thu, Jan 19, 2017, at 8:20 AM
  • I can not believe how the republicans screamed and called Hillary corrupt and now will to over look cabinet pick Mnuchin's lie about hiding money in off shore business ventures to avoid paying taxes.Get ready to be evicted all you seniors with reverse mortgages.Just one example he had an 80 year old evicted that had a reverse mortgage because he claimed she was not living there anymore which was not true.

    Quitemike name the scandals Obama had and I don't mean the many conspiracy theories the republicans made up.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Thu, Jan 19, 2017, at 2:58 PM
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    Sounds like the poor old woman fell for the reverse mortgage option. Rarely, if ever, a good idea regardless of who is offering it.

    Benghazi and the laughable, keystone-cop-esque attempt to cover it up. Not that, at this point, it makes any difference. You people have less than 24 hours left to take your best shot. Noon EST tomorrow the USA begins its rise from the ash heap. It will be entertaining to see the protesters (if they have the will to show) get a beat down by the wall of meat. (Metaphorically.)

    -- Posted by fair share on Thu, Jan 19, 2017, at 3:56 PM
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    They just had some great entertainment followed by marvelous fireworks at the Lincoln Memorial. Wonder if they got a deal on the fireworks? Maybe got them cheap from hillary?

    -- Posted by fair share on Thu, Jan 19, 2017, at 5:28 PM
  • Just saw a glimpse of the YUGE concert on news and it is pathetic.

    I see Trump is going to swear in on the same bible as Obama so according to the Obama haters that will be the Quran right.

    Like I said Benghazi hearings lasted for hours and republicans admit they found no wrong doing,in other words a repub conspiracy.Is that all you got fair share.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Thu, Jan 19, 2017, at 5:33 PM
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    The list is too long and my fingers are too tired. Wouldn't matter anyway. You have proven time and again that you are too dense to understand it.

    -- Posted by fair share on Thu, Jan 19, 2017, at 5:52 PM
  • Fast and Furious

    Shovel ready stimulus

    If you like your Healthcare plan

    Holder's contempt of congress

    Irs targeting conservatives

    Spying on journalists

    Solyndra

    VA death lists

    Iran ransom payment

    Droning American citizens

    Trading taliban terrorists for a deserter

    Now let the spin begin.

    -- Posted by quietmike on Thu, Jan 19, 2017, at 7:32 PM
  • If all these were true why was he not impeached.These are not scandals just policies you did not agree with.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Thu, Jan 19, 2017, at 8:21 PM
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    I know, I know. When b o farts, out comes a rainbow. And his poo smells like raspberry ice cream.

    -- Posted by fair share on Thu, Jan 19, 2017, at 8:43 PM
  • Scandals aside we have a president going in office already under an investigation for Russian ties.

    America don't forget to set your clocks back 300 years tonight.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Thu, Jan 19, 2017, at 10:15 PM
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    Are all the banks and post offices going to be closed tomorrow?

    -- Posted by sui on Thu, Jan 19, 2017, at 11:38 PM
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    Tick tock. Tick tock.

    Don't worry too much lbr?. Eight years isn't really that long. Maybe during that time hellary could take a few lessons from Monica Lewinsky and learn how not to choke. Bet some of the libs right now are wishing the party elites hadn't interfered with the US election. Too bad for you guys burny isn't going to be sworn in in a few hours. But good for the country.

    -- Posted by fair share on Fri, Jan 20, 2017, at 12:00 AM
  • If all these were true why was he not impeached.These are not scandals just policies you did not agree with.

    -- Posted by lets be real

    _________

    As I said earlier the stupidity is too much.

    First you claim they're not true, then say they're just policies I don't agree with, not scandals.

    VA death lists and Holder's contempt of congress is a policy?

    As for why he wasn't impeached.... Dems and most of the media have done a bang up job of painting any criticism of obummer as racism.

    Ten hours and counting.

    Deadbeat losers are already rioting and getting pepper sprayed for their trouble.

    -- Posted by quietmike on Fri, Jan 20, 2017, at 2:53 AM
  • Whomever had been elected, I can imagine taking this job on at our age. It will be grueling.

    -- Posted by stevemills on Fri, Jan 20, 2017, at 7:15 AM
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    YAY!!!!!

    -- Posted by fair share on Fri, Jan 20, 2017, at 11:00 AM
  • First time in 8 years I've heard a president speak without repeatedly mentioning himself.

    Props to Hillary for attending with grace.

    -- Posted by quietmike on Fri, Jan 20, 2017, at 5:44 PM
  • So, you're saying his speech writer did a good job?

    -- Posted by Rocket Valentine on Fri, Jan 20, 2017, at 6:39 PM
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    I would say Trump did a great job writing his speech. Made it clear there is a new sheriff in town and America is first again. It was nice of Hillary to act appropriately, unlike the crybaby clowns that make up 1/3 of the House Democrats.

    -- Posted by fair share on Fri, Jan 20, 2017, at 7:03 PM
  • Agree, Hillary did good.

    That speech did not have a "professional" ring to it, but I do not have firsthand knowledge.

    -- Posted by stevemills on Fri, Jan 20, 2017, at 7:06 PM
  • This was probably the first time in a lot of years Trump spoke without mentioning himself.Did not watch today,but just saw a shot of the crowd on news.Where was Trump supporters today?I know they were not at work ,most come from red states who are the biggest recipients of welfare.I was shocked at empty bleachers along the street and how small the crowd was compared to other inaugurations. The mall was not even half full.Trump even put up a new twitter page with a picture of a crowd in a mall on Jan 20th,but it was a picture of Obama'2009 inauguration.They did not think anyone would notice.

    As far as his speech he was suppose to be writing sitting at a desk, which was the concierge's desk at Mar-a-lago,close up showed he had a sharpie in his little hands and a new pad. Another staged photo-op.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Fri, Jan 20, 2017, at 7:50 PM
  • Is staging a photo shoot is a new thing to some?

    -- Posted by stevemills on Fri, Jan 20, 2017, at 9:28 PM
  • Trump did not write that speech. It was his message, but not his words. Not that it is a big deal. Speech writers are not uncommon, and this one is very good. He wrote a powerful speech without using any big words.

    Now we get to see how the Trump supporters reconcile the promises with the reality. I am sure there will be someone to blame when the time comes. But, for the moment, they get to enjoy the heady elixir of the illusion of victory.

    -- Posted by lazarus on Sat, Jan 21, 2017, at 1:06 AM
  • First executive order is putting the brakes on obamacare.

    Not bad for the first day.

    -- Posted by quietmike on Sat, Jan 21, 2017, at 3:05 AM
  • I heard Trumps' speech, at least most of it. He basically said he was returning the power to the people and taking it away from the government. Personally, I think that is the right direction because government has gotten way to big.

    However, talk is cheap. I recognize the level of fear that is experienced by some. Fear and hatred are the motivators behind the demonstrations and destruction we are seeing from the protestors. I think FDRs words still apply. "We have nothing to fear but fear itself."

    Just as it was the Bush administration failures that led to the conditions in Jan 2009, It is the Obama administration failures that have led to the conditions in Jan 2017.

    A vast number of people have become dependent upon the government. The idea that they may have to stand on their own is frightening, even terrifying. Just as animals cannot feed themselves after being consistently fed by humans, people don't know how to feed themselves after being fed by the government. They are basically suffering from Stockholm Syndrome.

    That being said, here are a couple of sayings that seem to be applicable. 1.)"Where there is no vision, the people perish." 2.)"Blind as a bat."

    Trump seems to be "Blind as a bat" because he really hasn't laid out a "vision". Bats actually do have vision with which they are able to feed themselves. Their vision basically involves radar. If you watch them flying around at dusk feeding they appear to basically be flying erratically around the sky, seemingly blind. They are actually feeding on bugs and mosquitos which we can't see. Trump is the same way, at least that is my hope. Hopefully, his erratic behavior (speech/tweets etc.) is his way of using a type of "Radar vision" to navigate the political darkness.

    All I can do at this point is hope and pray. Because change is here. :)

    -- Posted by Liveforlight on Sat, Jan 21, 2017, at 7:28 AM
  • History made today,the largest inaugural protest in history in America and 56 countries around the world.Three times the crowd of yesterday.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Sat, Jan 21, 2017, at 11:03 AM
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    As far as who to blame when things go wrong, I don't see why George Bush wouldn't still work. He has been the go-to excuse the past 8 years; why change now.

    Maybe with the changes in health care, lbr? may be able to get some new glasses and then be able to see the world as it really is.

    As far as Trump not using big words in his speech, I'm sure he had his audience in mind. Not only was he talking to me and his other supporters. He was also talking to you, Laz, and you,lbr?, and you RV. Tho he kept the words small, the ideas were big. And I fear he may have gone beyond what a lot of you can comprehend.

    -- Posted by fair share on Sat, Jan 21, 2017, at 11:05 AM
  • There was only one group represented at the inauguration yesterday just look at the crowd.Just like his top cabinet picks,all white males.Fair you are probably right about having his audience in mind yesterday maybe a lot of them can not understand big words.

    Hillary will be the excuse for everything that goes wrong in the white house now.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Sat, Jan 21, 2017, at 12:01 PM
  • Sometimes I think this blog is more for poking each other than debating the issues.

    I do not understand why people are so sure Trump dos not have a vision simply because he has not laid it out for everyone to pick apart. He no doubt, has a different management style, but that is what many of us felt was needed, a different approach to today's challenges.

    In business, I have found it better to plan, dream, envision, but not discuss my ideas past a very tight, trusted group. If he said he was going to give the "entitled" crowd just what they wanted, they would riot anyway and call him a liar, so why feed the "monster"?

    He would be called that right on this blog, so.....

    -- Posted by stevemills on Sat, Jan 21, 2017, at 12:16 PM
  • This is about Americas business not Trumps,he is suppose to be transparent.

    He did not drain the swamp he filled it with more wall street alligators.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Sat, Jan 21, 2017, at 2:16 PM
  • Do you really think other Presidents were transparent? ANY of them? Clinton? Obama?

    Why be upset about the possibility of Russia hacking. According to this philosophy they should have just copied them.

    Amazing.

    -- Posted by stevemills on Sat, Jan 21, 2017, at 3:12 PM
  • Suppose(d) to be transparent?

    Like we have to pass it to see what's in it?

    What is a swamp exactly? Stagnant standing water.

    This could easily describe lifetime politicians who've never worked in the real world.

    By that metric, Trump cabinet picks are definitely draining the swamp.

    -- Posted by quietmike on Sat, Jan 21, 2017, at 5:31 PM
  • WOW,the president of the US just stood in front of a wall dedicated to fallen CIAs and complained about the size of a crowd.This is embarrassing.He stood there and said he was behind them 1000%,while his staff clapped. This is the same man that has been trashing the CIA for months.He called them the nazi and leakers.

    He saw today how the majority of America and the world feel about his hate.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Sat, Jan 21, 2017, at 5:57 PM
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    Lbr?, isn't it time for you to come up and out of the rabbit hole? The only thing Trump hates is the need to make America great again. It is going to be a fun 8 years watching you and yours have your fits.

    -- Posted by fair share on Sat, Jan 21, 2017, at 6:33 PM
  • I have never seen rallies in this massive amounts in all 50 states before.I will bet Melania is going through h*** to keep Trump off twitter while he is crying and saying ,all those people don't want to play with me.LOL Did anyone notice how sad Melania looks?

    I forgot to add the media along with Hillary as an excuse for what ever goes wrong in the white house.Now it is the medias fault he trashed the CIA the last few months.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Sat, Jan 21, 2017, at 7:28 PM
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    Amber Alert: Has anyone seen the MLK bust that used to be in the White House? Apparently Trump has done away with it............Oh, never mind. Another lame stream fake news story.

    If SNL is going to say Barron will be the first home school shooter, then why didn't they have the stones to comment on Chelsea's face? I have a great comparison for her face, but can't use it here since I don't want this thread pulled. Just think of a couple of countries in the EU.

    -- Posted by fair share on Sat, Jan 21, 2017, at 8:01 PM
  • I'm just proud all those people can publicly protest their president without being called a racist.

    -- Posted by quietmike on Sun, Jan 22, 2017, at 4:09 AM
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    Madonna said yesterday she wanted to blow up the WH. Why isn't she in jail? Seems like all she does anymore is talk about blowing things.

    Where were all the women marching in Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Iran, etc. Is the lame stream now putting out a false narrative about the left by not showing them?

    -- Posted by fair share on Sun, Jan 22, 2017, at 9:43 AM
  • Blowing up the white house, along with her "campaign promise"....

    Quite the little fixation she has.

    -- Posted by quietmike on Sun, Jan 22, 2017, at 10:23 AM
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    Has anyone noticed besides me, that when Uncle Trump says something, it usually comes true or turns out to be true in a day or two?

    It is said, "A man who makes excuses doesn't make money and a man who makes money doesn't make excuses."

    Looks like we have elected a man just like that. I don't look to hear many excuses from Uncle trump.

    -- Posted by sui on Sun, Jan 22, 2017, at 8:00 PM
  • Yes just like he said he saw one and a half million people on inauguration day,he said he never trashed the CIA, no one else saw tv coverage he saw of american muslims celebrating on 9/11,he said he never mocked a disable man,he said he had proof from investigators that Obama was not born in America and I could go on and on.His administration calls these "Alternative facts" now as a new name for lies.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Sun, Jan 22, 2017, at 8:48 PM
  • Well, Steve; pre-judgement is not a question any more. The day has arrived, and we are all in the same boat (like it or not.) Anyone with sense has to at least hope for the best. The start did not answer many questions. Trump did not, of course, do all those things he promised to do on "Day One." But then, that was too long a list to be accomplished in one day, anyway. Getting distracted, instead, by falling back on his standby feud with the "lying media" did not bode well. He is no longer running for anything, and actually will be expected to do something. Eventually even his most ardent followers will expect some results. On the bright side; the term "alternate facts" will surely join the American lexicon as a euphemism for lying... especially when done by a politician.

    Looking at his supposed agenda, not all of it is bad. In particular, the promise to make a significant investment in infrastructure is a plus. I believe that the biggest bipartisan failure of Bush and Obama was handing out large cash gifts to corporations as an economic stimulus when the Bush Depression hit. That was the time to attack our infrastructure needs. Better late than never,though. We still benefit from the infrastructure projects of the Great Depression, and the potential is there to make a significant contribution to the future today. The boost in employment opportunities will have an equally salutary effect on the economy. The biggest downside is that it will have a major impact on the "National Debt." However, the political blowback might be minimal, as we will surely require some transitional period, while the Democrats rediscover that the Debt is the harbinger of doom, and Republicans rediscover that it is not a problem at all... I might be over-optimistic in imagining that a 180 degree turn in thinking requires more than being told that East is now West, and West is now East by whichever media tells us what to think.

    Our loss of stature in the world is almost a foregone conclusion. It is sort of a shame, as the US has been the dominant power in the world my entire life. But, all things change. Russia and China have wasted no time in vying to replace us. I don't see much reason to hold out hope that Trump will conduct himself as an adult now that he is in office. When the biggest concern of Day 1 is to somehow alter the public perception of the low turnout for his inauguration, it is pretty easy to assume he is just as small of a person as he seemed to be on the campaign trail.

    His cabinet selections were not exactly inspiring (Rick Perry for the Department of Energy-"what is it they do, anyway?"). However, it was encouraging to see that he left the dregs of the lot by the wayside (Gingrich, Christie, and Giuliani). Selecting a White Supremacist as an adviser raises a lot of questions. And picking his son in law just make me think of Bud Adams and Tommy Smith. Those who are football fans can tell you that marrying a billionaire's daughter does not make you a genius at football (Tommy Smith turned the Titans into a laughingstock before he was removed.) I have my doubts that it makes you a genius at world affairs, either. That might not matter much. The announcement of Jerusalem as the new location of our Embassy to Israel was even questioned by most Israelis. It pretty much puts paid to any hope of peace between Israel and the Palestinians, and pushes Russia to the forefront as the major player among the Arab countries.

    Domestically, how long will his Rust Belt followers keep the faith, when they realize that those high paying union jobs for unskilled or semi-skilled workers are not coming back? How long will all his supporters stay on board, when they realize their entitlement of an easy path to prosperity is not coming? No one can turn back time, and neither America, nor any other country can be something "again."

    As far as us being the most united we have ever been.... We have over half the population outraged at the new president, while his supporters continue to gloat and taunt, more than 2 months after the election.

    It ought to be interesting.

    -- Posted by lazarus on Mon, Jan 23, 2017, at 11:22 AM
  • Trump signed executive orders withdrawing from the TPP, freezing government hiring, and halting overseas funding of abortions.

    Not a bad start.

    -- Posted by quietmike on Mon, Jan 23, 2017, at 12:17 PM
  • I thought Trump supporters did not like executive orders.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Mon, Jan 23, 2017, at 1:04 PM
  • Trump supporters are done playing the liberal's game.

    They preach bipartisanship, but never practice it. Same for tolerance and many other things.

    Time to reap what you've sown.

    Get ready for some scorched earth.

    -- Posted by quietmike on Mon, Jan 23, 2017, at 3:22 PM
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    Yeah, Laz, it ought to be interesting. Anyone with sense ought to know it can't get any worse. Sounds like the main thing you have to complain about is "he didn't make it all better today". Hey, Bud, just wait til tomorrow. Or a couple of days. You wouldn't even expect Jesus (even if you believed in him) to fix all of b o's screw-ups in just 1 day, would you? Even tho Trump won't put up with the usual crap from the MSM, looks like we normal folk will still have to put up with it from those on the Left.

    -- Posted by fair share on Mon, Jan 23, 2017, at 5:04 PM
  • Trump is still sore about losing the popular vote. Today he told senators he lost the popular vote because 3-5 million illegals voted for Hillary with no proof.He can't get over this.then he sends his press secretary out to lie about crowd size at the inauguration.

    Someone said on TV today,George Washington said I cannot tell a lie,Richard Nixon said I can not tell the truth and Donald Trump said I can not tell the difference.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Mon, Jan 23, 2017, at 11:03 PM
  • Clearly, Fare, you did not read the post... I don't blame you. It was far too long for this venue. However, I stated that the list of "day one" items was beyond the scope of one day. Trump was clearly only speaking figuratively, and no reasonable person would hold him to accomplishing all those things in one day.

    I do have my doubts about his continuing obsession with his inauguration turnout. Such a trivial matter to be the focus of so much angst. It says something about the sort of man who finds that the central issue of the day.

    -- Posted by lazarus on Tue, Jan 24, 2017, at 1:07 AM
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    Believe it or not, Laz, I did read your whole post. As I was initially scrolling through, imagine my surprise when I got to the bottom and saw your name, when I was already wondering "what did Sui write this time?". You did start out saying it couldn't all be done in one day. Then spent most of the rest of the time complaining about Trump. Tho you were able to throw in a dig at Bush. So many points I would like to clear up, but it is late (or early) so I will only mention his apparent fixation on the crowd size. I suspect you, unlike some, actually watched the inauguration. If, not, you have probably looked into it enough to know the truth. When seen in real time, the mall was full. After the fact, some of the lying media outlets showed footage from earlier, before it was filled up, claiming that was the crowd size at the time of the event. I do not see a problem with spending a few minutes out of a busy day to point out the media corruption. It has some edification value. If they will mislead (or outright lie) about trivial stuff like that, what will they do about important matters?

    Lbr?, if Trump wanted to win the popular vote, he would have campaigned much differently. He did what needed to be done to win the presidency. It just adds to our entertainment that people like you seem even more distraught because shillary won the popular vote but is now having to cool her heels. 🍿

    -- Posted by fair share on Tue, Jan 24, 2017, at 5:03 AM
  • "Anyone with sense ought to know it can't get any worse."

    You really do live in an alternate reality. Trust me, things could be a lot worse.

    -- Posted by lazarus on Tue, Jan 24, 2017, at 7:59 AM
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    Of course it could, but it won't for the next 4-8 years. This new hyperbolic keyboard I got sometimes goes a little overboard.

    -- Posted by fair share on Tue, Jan 24, 2017, at 8:08 AM
  • I have to keep an eye on that pesky keyboard of mine, too. If I am not careful, the hyperbole lock can get turned on without my noticing. (smiley face)

    -- Posted by lazarus on Tue, Jan 24, 2017, at 9:17 AM
  • Then there is backing out of the TPP entirely. It is a shame that this is not the simple issue it is made out to be. The TPP was unquestionably a negative for the "working class." While it would have been a net plus for the US economy, there would have been winners and losers. Corporations would have reaped the benefits, while the working class suffered the losses. Here is where the entertainment value comes in. The Democrats, Obama (and, up until it became too unpopular, Clinton)were promoting the idea on the basis that the extra money gained by Corporate America would "trickle down" to the working class in the form of new jobs. The Republican, Trump, quite correctly assessed that Corporate America was not going to create new jobs, just because they had more money. In the strictest sense of the word; the Democrats were espousing the conservative side, while the Republicans, under Trump, have now taken the liberal side. And guys like you, Fare, who delight in calling liberals names, are now applauding a liberal action.

    From a more pragmatic point of view; by opting entirely out of the budding Pacific Trading Block, we have opened the door for China to position itself as the leading economic power in the Pacific. While the old "deal," as written, was deleterious to the interests of the working class to the benefit of the wealthy; having no part in this "deal" at all is deleterious to the interests of all of us. If Trump wanted to display his self professed talent at making good deals, this would have been an excellent place to start. Because, in the end, the quick fix solution of simply removing ourselves, will not benefit the working class. Therein lies the problem with seeking easy answers to complex questions.

    -- Posted by lazarus on Tue, Jan 24, 2017, at 10:36 AM
  • Anyone can see even on the photo Trump showed of the crowd did NOT go all the way to the Washington monument.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Tue, Jan 24, 2017, at 10:43 AM
  • I do not understand why this continues to be a topic. But then find myself pitching in. The photo of the Trump crowd was taken as he began the oath of office. The photo of the Obama crowd during the inaugural address. While not the identical time, they were only a few minutes apart. The reasons for the difference are subject to interpretation. The reality of the difference is not.

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/crowd-controversy-the-making-of-an-inaugu...

    -- Posted by lazarus on Tue, Jan 24, 2017, at 12:44 PM
  • CNNs gigapixel photo, showing Trump standing, shows a crowd size far larger than the one reported above.

    http://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2017/01/22/inauguration-photo-comparison-nyt-vs-cn...

    -- Posted by quietmike on Tue, Jan 24, 2017, at 1:31 PM
  • *

    I think Trump is more pragmatic than liberal/conservative. He tends to think a little outside the box that has been DC for quite some time. He will likely soon be negotiating some new trade agreements. I don't care if he uses some liberal leanings here and there as long as the end result is a benefit for America. And I don't always call liberals names, but when I do it is just for fun.

    -- Posted by fair share on Tue, Jan 24, 2017, at 1:38 PM
  • Trump has, and is, fully exploiting the inability of the average democrat, and the MSM, to process information.

    Throughout the campaign, and currently, he waves a shiny trinket with one hand, and the left jumps on it like ravenous wolves, while he does what he needs to with the other hand.

    While the lefties have been hemorrhaging over tax returns and crowd sizes, he has already done a tremendous amount of work in two days toward reversing obummers damage.

    -- Posted by quietmike on Tue, Jan 24, 2017, at 2:20 PM
  • Trump is the one hemorrhaging over crowd size,he can't let it go. Thanks quitemike for the clip ,the PBS video clearly tells the story that the mall was never filled.The other photo was took from another angle.Trump shut down the parks dept to stop tweeting the crowd size and since that is their job,they do this for every event and is nonpolitical.The stationary camera at the mall is nonpolitical.LOL. What about the DC transit stating that weak demand during Trump inauguration as compared to both Obamas inauguration and the womens march.Is the Dept of Parks and Recreation and the Dept of interior lying also?

    -- Posted by lets be real on Tue, Jan 24, 2017, at 3:00 PM
  • It is not just the left that wants to see Trumps tax returns,it is 84% of Americans.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Tue, Jan 24, 2017, at 3:03 PM
  • LBR,

    Thanks for the confirmation about processing information.

    Trump's tax returns are irrelevant. No doubt he uses every available avenue to reduce his burden as much as possible, just like the rest of us.

    -- Posted by quietmike on Tue, Jan 24, 2017, at 3:50 PM
  • *

    And the oil will be more freely flowing soon.

    -- Posted by fair share on Tue, Jan 24, 2017, at 5:03 PM
  • If Trump is comfortable with his win why does he keep bringing up losing the popular vote.He has only been in office 5 days and has sent his press secretary out to lie to the american people every other day.There is no proof that millions of illegals voted,there is proof they did not.Republicans know this and his press secretary knows this.Is there no one who can say no to him and tell him he is making a bigger fool of himself?

    -- Posted by lets be real on Tue, Jan 24, 2017, at 6:19 PM
  • *

    Like watching a dog chase it's tail.

    -- Posted by fair share on Tue, Jan 24, 2017, at 7:07 PM
  • LBR,

    I tried to explain it earlier, but I guess I'll have to make it simpler for you.

    Trump says these outlandish things to keep the dullards busy and distracted from his real agenda.

    While libs are talking about nonsense, Trump has reversed much of the damage of Obama in just two days. He's also reportedly going after immigration tomorrow.

    So please keep on repeating the liberal talking points Maddow told you about, and by next month Trump will have made America great again.

    -- Posted by quietmike on Tue, Jan 24, 2017, at 7:19 PM
  • I just have one question, Quite Mike.... Why? He doesn't have to distract anyone. Everything he is doing, no one could stop anyway.

    -- Posted by lazarus on Tue, Jan 24, 2017, at 10:30 PM
  • "And the oil will be more freely flowing soon."

    Again, the question is why? We are already producing more oil than ever, and the oil companies are actually suffering because it is driving the prices so low. They are trying to hammer out agreements to *reduce* the amount of oil being produced. The only thing that will change is that they will be allowed to pollute the crap out of our land. Who is that good for?

    -- Posted by lazarus on Tue, Jan 24, 2017, at 10:34 PM
  • Since Trump believes there was massive voter fraud what does that say about his win and others? He is losing what little credibility he had even among republicans.

    By removing regulations we might all be drinking oil while Trump and his oil buddies get richer.He could not wait to sign the bill for Keystone and Dakota pipeline since he has financial interest in them.He signs all these bills surrounded by only white males,sure does represent all America.LOL It's like Grover Norquist said "we don't want anyone who thinks,we just want someone to sign bills".

    -- Posted by lets be real on Tue, Jan 24, 2017, at 11:48 PM
  • Lazarus,

    You'd have to ask him for the real reason, but it is classic Sun Tzu, which is still highly regarded in business.

    -- Posted by quietmike on Wed, Jan 25, 2017, at 2:36 AM
  • *

    Didn't Trump write a classic business book a while back? (For the dullards out there, that is a rhetorical question with a very obvious answer.)

    I'm starting to feel like I'm watching a fast paced game of ping pong. Price of oil is too low and it is hurting the oil companies. No, the oil buddies are getting too rich. One or both of you guys must have read the Party memo incorrectly.

    Lbr, the only thing Trump is losing is a bunch of b o's past crazy shenanigans. You, however, are in danger of losing your mind. And according to that old saying, "a mind is a terrible thing to lose". The Dow just broke 20k and is up over 10% just since the election. Sounds like he has massive credibility with the financial world.

    -- Posted by fair share on Wed, Jan 25, 2017, at 9:11 AM
  • Not only will taxpayers have to pay for a useless wall but also another investigation for massive voter fraud that exist only in the mind of a lunatic.We can't pay for healthcare for all americans but can spend billions on this.Some one needs to tell Trump we are not his employees,he works for us.Is he going to investigate all states or does he think it only occured in the states he lost.He trashed Jill Stein for doing the exact same thing.Congress and all america will see that this man is not rational.

    What is worse is having a spineless congress that is going along with whatever he says and does whether it is right or wrong.This will be the most corrupt administration in history.He will make Nixon look like an angel.Putin will be proud seeing Trump block departments from informing the public about disagreeing with him.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Wed, Jan 25, 2017, at 10:24 AM
  • LBR,

    You have to be the slowest liberal I've ever seen.

    Thanks for your help in ensuring Trump's re-election.

    -- Posted by quietmike on Wed, Jan 25, 2017, at 11:55 AM
  • *

    "What is worse is having a spineless congress that is going along with whatever he says and does whether it is right or wrong." by LBR?

    So at least it sounds like you have accepted that he has, or at least could, do something right. Baby steps.

    -- Posted by fair share on Wed, Jan 25, 2017, at 1:21 PM
  • Trump said he wants an investigation into voter fraud,one aspect will be being registered in more than one state.Well he needs to start with Steve Mnuchin his pick for treasury sec and Steve Bannon,since both are registered in 2 states.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Wed, Jan 25, 2017, at 7:53 PM
  • It is not illegal voter fraud to be registered in more than 1 state,but Trump does not know this.His own daughter Tiffany is registered in more than one state.And as for dead people being registered,I don't know anyone who rushes to the registeration office to tell them grandma just died.They automatically come off the roll after so long when not voting.

    The president of Mexico just made breaking news"we will not pay for any wall".

    -- Posted by lets be real on Wed, Jan 25, 2017, at 9:47 PM
  • *

    "They automatically come off the roll after so long when not voting."

    Tell that to Richard Daley and all the dead Chicagoans that got Kennedy into office.🍿

    -- Posted by fair share on Wed, Jan 25, 2017, at 11:07 PM
  • *

    For a President who isn't going to do anything, he sure has gotten the ball rolling.

    He has signed executive orders to stop many of Obama's EOs. He has signed EO to Homeland Security to start building the Wall. Hiring 5,000 more Border agents, and 10,000 new ICE Agents plus other immigration Executive Orders dealing with immigrants and undocumented aliens. He has the Union Leaders happy to work with him. He stopped the TTIP agreement. Trump stopped Obama's $221 Million aid money to Palestine. (Another aiding the enemy package). Has his Intelligent Agents working on intelligent projects and okayed the Pipe Line continuation, and offshore oil drilling and threatening to step in and deal with Chicago's murder problems. And other Executive Orders, plus tweeting in his spare time to people who want to speak out against him, Plus has Putin looking forward to dealing with President who has some intelligence. Plus he will find out one way or the other if there are any Voter violations.

    And the democrats keep saying, "what is Trump going to do and when is he going to do what he said he was going to do?" Looks like he is a head of schedule.

    When Trump gets that wall up, Mexico won't have much choice in the matter of paying for the wall.

    That south wall not only blocks illegals, but imports as well. Everything will have to go through the door. Mexico will be outside with Central and South America and I don't think the Mexican President is going to like that.

    If the Mexican President gets tough, Trump may shut down tourism to Mexico.

    You have to think about this: The super Highway from Canada to Mexico also includes a Pipe Line double lane trucker Highway both north and south and same with two Railroads in both directions, north and south PLUS an 8 lane passenger car highway in the middle of it.

    This Super Highway is for Importing and Exporting to and from China, Japan, Taiwan and other countries with Mexico, The United States and Canada, with Mexico being the major port. The Super Highway then brings the Imports up into the USA and Canada from Mexico, but it also carries the exports from Canada and The USA down to Mexico to be deported from Mexico.

    Now, here is where I once read a Treaty between the USA, Mexico and Canada that prohibits a wall between Canada and the USA nor can there be one between the USA and Mexico, signed by George Bush, senior. So can this wall be legally constructed without violating an International treaty?

    However, the Highway isn't built yet and neither is the Wall!

    -- Posted by sui on Thu, Jan 26, 2017, at 12:42 AM
  • The president of Mexico just made breaking news"we will not pay for any wall".

    -- Posted by lets be real on Wed, Jan 25, 2017, at 9:47 PM

    ---------

    The Mexican president doesn't really control that, does he?

    Trump could tax wire transfers going to Mexico at 10% and Mexico would be paying for the wall, and there's nothing the Mexican president could do about it.

    -- Posted by quietmike on Thu, Jan 26, 2017, at 4:25 AM
  • You forget something, Quite Mike. Mexico is our second largest trading partner in the world. If we tax wire transfers between countries, they can also tax wire transfers. Besides the fact that Mexico itself would not be paying the tax, most of the money collected would not be coming from Mexicans, it would be coming from US corporations.... and we are not going to do that.

    You do understand that the boom on Wall Street is not about them thinking Trump is going to "make America great." It is because they believe that the corporate insiders (that you clever people voted for Trump to spite)will now get anything they want. You did not drain the swamp. You turned it over to the alligators.

    -- Posted by lazarus on Thu, Jan 26, 2017, at 7:57 AM
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    How many Americans go to live and work in Mexico so they can send pesos back to their relatives here in the states? 3 or 4? I can't speak for the others, but I didn't vote for Trump to spite the corporate insiders (or as I call them, business leaders). Speaking poorly of successful leaders raises the possibility of that green-eyed slut called jealousy. I voted for Trump to make America great again. The fact that it spites the liberal snowflakes is just like icing on the cake.

    -- Posted by fair share on Thu, Jan 26, 2017, at 8:31 AM
  • You did not understand what I was saying, Fare. 2015 remittances to Mexico were $24 billion. Purchases of goods from Mexico were $316 billion. So your 10% tax on money sent to Mexico would be 93% paid by US Corporations.... Mexico could respond by taxing money transferred to the US. Again using 2015 figures, that would be $267 billion for our exports. So, in your scenario, US corporations would pay $58 billion in taxes and those evil Mexican citizens would pay $2 billion. The Mexican government would collect $27 billion. US consumers would, logically, end up footing the bill for the $58 billion. Math is not your friend.

    -- Posted by lazarus on Thu, Jan 26, 2017, at 9:45 AM
  • *

    Yes Laz, I understand we are talking about two different things. First priority is to get the wall built to keep the illegals out. And I know you people like to chant that people can't be illegal. But you are dead wrong in that regard. The second priority is to figure out how Mexico will pay for it. I bet Trump already has. He will let us and them know soon enough. Just wait until he gets the trade deals renegotiated.

    The psychology of the market is fairly interesting. Of course a lot of the performance of the market is driven by the performance of the companies that make up the market. But a significant portion of it's performance is driven by what investors are thinking. Now I'm starting to hear Ba Ba Streisand in my head singing "Feelings". Anyway, the "corporate insiders" are feeling better about the business climate (it is changing, for the better) so they are doing more and better business. I'm sure they invest more in the market. But the little guy (you and me) also see this happening and we do the same. Even if you don't go down to the stock store and buy some, you are still participating if you have any type of retirement plan. Except, of course, if you only have Social Insecurity.

    -- Posted by fair share on Thu, Jan 26, 2017, at 10:22 AM
  • Busniess transactions would be exempt from that tax.

    "the swamp" is career politicians, like Bernie the bum, who've never worked outside of government.

    -- Posted by quietmike on Thu, Jan 26, 2017, at 10:29 AM
  • "Busniess transactions would be exempt from that tax."

    And how do they pull that off? Do you think people will volunteer that their transaction is not "business?"

    -- Posted by lazarus on Thu, Jan 26, 2017, at 1:25 PM
  • Trump claims water boarding works,remember he knows more than the generals.He even knows more than people that have been water boarded like MCcain.But I keep forgetting he was not a hero because he was captured.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Thu, Jan 26, 2017, at 1:28 PM
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    Wow! Showing a little respect for a Republican! There must be a God because this is a miracle.

    -- Posted by fair share on Thu, Jan 26, 2017, at 1:40 PM
  • And how do they pull that off? Do you think people will volunteer that their transaction is not "business?"

    The same way individuals don't get tax exemptions when buying supplies when businesses do.

    Tax ID number.

    -- Posted by quietmike on Thu, Jan 26, 2017, at 3:26 PM
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    What will Trump do about -

    "The North American Union" or

    The Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) calls it a "North American Community," as if the corrupt culture and government of Mexico can be made to mesh with democratic systems in the U.S. and Canada. It means open borders and more criminal aliens in the U.S.

    Simply put, the plan is to submerge the sovereignty of the United States of America and politically integrate the U.S., Canada, and Mexico into a trilateral entity called the North American Union.

    It started with George Bush. This true story has leading characters in it that you will be familiar with:

    Pres. George Bush, Pres. Barack Obama, Pres. Donald Trump,

    Republican Senator; Ted Cruz and his wife Heidi Cruz, who was an investment banker and was a member of a Council on Foreign Relations Task Force, which developed a plan for a "North American Community."

    Ted Cruz had called the CFR "a pernicious nest of snakes" that is "working to undermine our sovereignty."

    I am still looking for the Treaty Bush signed preventing walls on the borders between the US.. Due to the terrorist attacks around the world, this treaty may be discarded by now.

    If the powers to be are pushing this, Trump is out!

    Don't take my word for it. You owe it to yourselves to read it here:

    http://www.aim.org/aim-column/trump-threatens-north-american-union-scheme/

    if link doesn't work add this after "org"

    /aim-column/trump-threatens-north-american-union-scheme/

    -- Posted by sui on Thu, Jan 26, 2017, at 10:13 PM
  • -- Posted by quietmike on Fri, Jan 27, 2017, at 11:09 AM
  • What puzzles me about all the people in the pro-life march today are the same people who are willing to let refugee children die before giving them shelter. They want to defund PPH that offers birth control to prevent having kids,but when these kids are born they complain about having to help feed them.

    The only thing Trump will be concerned about in all this is the size of the crowd,I bet it will be bigly and yuge.

    Trump lied again today,after the president of Mexico canceled next weeks meeting he claimed it was mutual.Now he is pressuring the DC park administration to lie about his crowd size.Why can't people see something is wrong with this man?He is a pathological liar.He is obscessed with losing the popular vote having the smallest crowd of any president inauguration lately.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Fri, Jan 27, 2017, at 11:46 AM
  • They want to defund PPH that offers birth control to prevent having kids,but when these kids are born they complain about having to help feed them.

    -------

    Birth control is $15/month. Get a job and buy your own, and welcome to adulthood.

    -- Posted by quietmike on Fri, Jan 27, 2017, at 1:12 PM
  • I thought there were no jobs,and $15 a month means a lot if you are making $7 an hour.PPH does a lot for low income women such as mammagrams,cancer screening and other life saving treatments.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Fri, Jan 27, 2017, at 4:18 PM
  • NO PP clinic does mammograms, not a single one.

    The great idiot obama claimed that once, and was quickly called out on that lie.

    I guess you didn't read about the latest sting on PP?

    Several pregnant women were sent to PP asking about prenatal care, almost all the clinics said they don't offer it.

    At best they offered to refer them to a prenatal care provider.

    If you're not looking to kill your kid, google or the yellow pages will serve you just as well as PP.

    -- Posted by quietmike on Fri, Jan 27, 2017, at 5:13 PM
  • In fact, if you look at PPs website you'll see all they offer is referrals for those "life saving treatments". https://www.plannedparenthood.org/health-center/massachusetts/boston/02215/great...

    -- Posted by quietmike on Fri, Jan 27, 2017, at 5:43 PM
  • That site does not tell you everything PPH offers.Abortions are only 3% of what they do.None of the funding can legally be spent on abortion.I know people that have used these services.Some are preventive healthcare,birth control,pregnancy test,sex education,sexually transmitted diseases and pap smears.No they do not do mammagrams I meant breast exams.They also do counceling for vasectomies.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Fri, Jan 27, 2017, at 10:54 PM
  • *

    Anyone that can't afford 15 dollars a month to keep from getting pregnant is no doubt getting free medical care thanks to the taxpayers. And if someone isn't, just get 1 aspirin (reusable) and hold it between your knees. And if that is too offensive, why not just go back to PP's progressive Margaret Sanger's roots and just do forced sterilization? It would be cheaper than paying for bcp's and abortions and then feed/clothe/educate the ones that slip through the cracks. Wash, rinse, repeat.

    -- Posted by fair share on Fri, Jan 27, 2017, at 11:06 PM
  • Abortions are only 3% of what they do.

    --------

    A completely meaningless stat considering they "unbundle" all their procedures.

    This means when they kill a baby, any action they take toward that end is listed as a separate procedure.

    http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2013/05/07/_3_percent_of_planned_parenthood...

    -- Posted by quietmike on Sat, Jan 28, 2017, at 7:55 AM
  • Only under a Trump administration can law makers think they can make demonstrating a crime.About 10 states are trying to pass these laws.This is because the leader of the free world has gone off the rail.North Dakota wants to legalize accidental auto collisions that kill or injure protesters.Indiana wants to criminalize protests and allow police to use any means necessary to stop it.

    The seven countries Trump is banning from entering America are predominately muslim.None of these countries have had terrorist related problems in the US.Countries that will be allowed have produced the shoe bomber,the underwear bomber,9/11 attackers,the Boston bombers and others.This is nothing but a ban on muslims and not about banning terrorists.Trump is elevating fear and hate in America.Other countries think he is mad.America will be alone with no one to back us.For all the ones who complained about America being weak in the eyes of the world and no respect under Obama,you ain't seen nothing yet.He did not ban countries he does business with.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Sat, Jan 28, 2017, at 10:35 AM
  • *

    Lbr?, you better watch what you say. You wouldn't want to be sued by BTO.

    🍿🍿🍿

    -- Posted by fair share on Sat, Jan 28, 2017, at 10:46 AM
  • The 9/11 attackers were from Saudi Arabia,Egypt,UAE and Lebanon why not ban these countries.The whole world can see this why can't the republicans?

    I will bet that the spineless republicans will cave with Trump on Russian sanctions and torture.

    They will also use taxpayers money to pay for a wall.

    They will also go along with 20% tax imports with Mexico and cost Americans higher prices because they do not care about working americans.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Sat, Jan 28, 2017, at 1:45 PM
  • LBR

    Running over someone on the sidewalk, where they are supposed to be and cars aren't is the fault of the driver. Running over someone on the highway where cars are supposed to be but pedestrians aren't is the fault of the fool protester.

    All lives splatter.

    As for the countries not being responsible for terror against the US, you might want to do a bit of research before believing liberal talking heads

    -- Posted by quietmike on Sat, Jan 28, 2017, at 1:49 PM
  • LBR

    9/11 wasnt the only terrorist attack in the US.

    -- Posted by quietmike on Sat, Jan 28, 2017, at 1:50 PM
  • Does no one see the humor in the very people who were promising to riot in the streets if they lost the election, having instead won, now want to outlaw any dissent at all. OK. Maybe it is not that funny, Their leader has expressed great admiration for how Putin runs his country. Putin kills his political opponents. The real shame about Trump is that it is not only his followers who are going to pay the price.

    -- Posted by lazarus on Sat, Jan 28, 2017, at 3:06 PM
  • *

    We were promising to riot in the streets if we didn't win? You, Laz, are better than that. Or were.

    -- Posted by fair share on Sat, Jan 28, 2017, at 3:38 PM
  • My memory works just fine.

    -- Posted by lazarus on Sat, Jan 28, 2017, at 4:04 PM
  • Was it you, personally, I could not say. But starting with Trump, who was not going to accept the results of the "rigged" election, I saw plenty of Trump supporters promising trouble... even hinting at a revolution.

    -- Posted by lazarus on Sat, Jan 28, 2017, at 4:07 PM
  • I heard Trump himself say that if he lost the rigged election the movement will cause rioting in the street.

    No quitemike 9/11 was not the only terrorist attack in America.The Boston bombers were from Russia,time square attacker was Pakistani,the underwear bomber was from Nigeria and the San Bernadino attackers were Pakistan descent just to name a few.None of the 7 countries banned have had fatal attacks on american soil.And this is a fact violence by muslim americans represent an incredibly small fraction of overall violence in this country.Biggest majority of attacks are done by americans.

    Trump did not ban some countries that have caused terrorist attacks in America because he has financial dealings in those countries.

    Real Christians who claim to be pro-life would not think it is okay to let Syrian children die.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Sat, Jan 28, 2017, at 7:40 PM
  • And the solution is....?

    -- Posted by stevemills on Sat, Jan 28, 2017, at 9:13 PM
  • *

    "Real Christians who claim to be pro-life would not think it is okay to let Syrian children die."

    Just out of curiosity, I wonder how many Christians really think Christ is okay with killing unborn babies? I also wonder why some think Syrian babies can't be kept alive in their own country in safe zones? Why don't we just invite everyone in the world to come on over so we can feed them, shelter them, and protect them? And then when the pro choice ones of them choose to get pregnant while also choosing to not be responsible for their choices, we can give them free abortions. I didn't realize until now how great the libs really think Trump is going to make this nation. I sure never thought even he could make us great enough to wet nurse the whole world.

    So Steve, the solution is, set up a safe zone in Syria and try to get as many Americans that have the requisite gumption to take care of their own self. And let the ones that don't, learn.

    -- Posted by fair share on Sat, Jan 28, 2017, at 9:55 PM
  • One of the solutions would be for americans to stand up to this bully like the Federal Judge in New York who just issued a stay that temporarily blocks US government from sending people out of the country after landing at Airports with valid visas.Someone will need to sedate Trump and take his unsecured phone he continues to use.

    Does anyone remember Trump telling his supporters at his rallies that he had a plan for ISIS and he would keep it a secret? Well turns out he never had one,another lie.He is calling for joint chiefs of staff to submit a plan in 30 days for defeating Islamic state.

    He wants to increase the number of soldiers in the armed forces.Get ready you 18-27 year olds to be drafted. People who dodged the draft are always ready to send others to war,unless your last name is Trump.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Sat, Jan 28, 2017, at 9:59 PM
  • There is no absolute solution. You cannot defend every possible target against random attacks from individuals ready to die in the process.

    To be honest, we have been remarkably successful over the past 15 years, as highly organized attacks have almost been brought to a standstill. 9-11, the railway attacks in the UK, and that sort of thing have been replaced by pretty much random individual attacks. And, when those do occur, the perpetrators are tracked down rapidly. The life expectancy of the leadership of terrorist organizations can be counted in days and weeks... months at best.

    I am not crediting Obama with this. It would seem to be the result of the combined Intelligence communities of the West. The total elimination of terrorist attacks would be great, but we seem to have achieved about as good of results as is possible. Trump's heavy handed, showboating actions, which really seem more geared towards arousing the passions of his followers are unlikely to improve the results.

    -- Posted by lazarus on Sat, Jan 28, 2017, at 10:39 PM
  • Gotta love how goofy liberals selectively invoke Jesus for their arguments.

    As fair share said Jesus would oppose abortion.

    Nowhere in the bible does it say steal from your neighbor who has too much to feed your laziness.

    God wouldn't approve of men running around in a bra and using the girls bathroom.

    Nor would he want women to run around with boobs out wearing a ****** hat.

    Pretty sure he'd oppose all those wars democrats have started.

    -- Posted by quietmike on Sun, Jan 29, 2017, at 7:22 AM
  • I agree with Laz thst there is no absolute soution.

    But there are sensible things we can do to lower the risk.

    The new jail being designed will have high fences and walls and controlled access for the security of the community. There's no reason the country shouldn't have the same.

    Also an armed population and elimination of gun free zones would do much to mitigate the damage in some attacks. We've seen brutal, massive carnage in Europe and Orlando when one of these folks finds sitting ducks.

    -- Posted by quietmike on Sun, Jan 29, 2017, at 7:37 AM
  • We already have an armed population, Quite Mike. The only places I know of with more heavily armed populations are places like Iraq. But that is another discussion, for another time.

    That said, Europe has a very overt firearms presence. There are uniformed soldiers with weapons at the ready everywhere, in response to the shootings that occurred earlier. Stores, restaurants, tourist attractions, anywhere that people gather in any numbers have black uniformed security people at every entrance. i went all over the place on foot, and never felt at risk. If the terrorists accomplished anything, they have provided thousands (maybe hundreds of thousands) of employment opportunities. The result of all the firearms is that now the attacks have been driving vehicles into crowds of people.

    What really impressed me about Europe was that the response of the people has been a quiet resolve not to allow those few lunatics to change their way of life. The Christmas markets were still full of people, as were the restaurants and stores and tourist attractions. There was nowhere a sense of people cowering in fear like I see here, even though they have endured far more attacks than we have.

    I was rather surprised at the extent of the minority population (especially in France), but I had never considered the connections that would still exist between European countries and their former (sometimes current) colonies. And the Moslems are there in much greater numbers than you see here. Again, I had not really thought about the close physical proximity between Europe and the Moslem countries.

    Just a side note; I found all the security people to be very pleasant as they went about their jobs. Even at the airports. It was quite a contrast to the generally surly and commanding attitude that I have experienced at the US airports. The military guys, with their weapons out, did not interact with people. The nature of their assignment precluded any socializing. But, neither were they staring down the crowd. the soldiers went about their business, and everyone else went about theirs. If I had felt any concerns (and since I understand math, I was not terribly worried) their presence would have been comforting.

    -- Posted by lazarus on Sun, Jan 29, 2017, at 10:46 AM
  • As far as the ban on travelers from any Moslem country where Trump does not have a business interest.... That is just a publicity stunt. Or maybe he is trying to strong arm those countries into doing business with him.

    Since 9-11 (in which almost all the terrorists would have been exempt from the ban, since they were from Trump-friendly countries) there has been exactly one terrorist attack by a person traveling here on a visa. That was the Nigerian who tried to ignite explosives hidden in his underwear in 2009. He failed.

    -- Posted by lazarus on Sun, Jan 29, 2017, at 11:02 AM
  • That said, Europe has a very overt firearms presence. There are uniformed soldiers with weapons at the ready everywhere, in response to the shootings that occurred earlier.

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    A visible, known level of security is fine, but intelligent entities will also have other layers, not known to the masses. The secret service does this protecting the president. For every "men in black" agent you see, several more are in the crowd in plain clothes. The x factor of the unexpected is a massive deterrent, especially when you can mitigate that risk by going down the road to a gun free zone (which they overwhelmingly do).

    -- Posted by quietmike on Sun, Jan 29, 2017, at 12:19 PM
  • Actually the list of 7 countries was created by the obama administration?

    https://www.congress.gov/114/bills/hr158/BILLS-114hr158rds.xml

    -- Posted by quietmike on Sun, Jan 29, 2017, at 12:24 PM
  • I only see Iraq and Syria?

    -- Posted by lazarus on Sun, Jan 29, 2017, at 12:39 PM
  • If they had "other layers, not known to the masses" I did not see them.... Massarus (smiley face)

    -- Posted by lazarus on Sun, Jan 29, 2017, at 12:49 PM
  • From the link....

    NOT PRESENT IN IRAQ, SYRIA, OR ANY OTHER COUNTRY OR AREA OF CONCERN.--

    "(A) IN GENERAL.--Except as provided in subparagraphs (B) and (C)--

    "(i) the alien has not been present, at any time on or after March 1, 2011--

    "(I) in Iraq or Syria;

    "(II) in a country that is designated by the Secretary of State under section 6(j) of the Export Administration Act of 1979 (50 U.S.C. 2405) (as continued in effect under the International Emergency Economic Powers Act (50 U.S.C. 1701 et seq.)), section 40 of the Arms Export Control Act (22 U.S.C. 2780), section 620A of the Foreign Assistance Act of 1961 (22 U.S.C. 2371), or any other provision of law, as a country, the government of which has repeatedly provided support of acts of international terrorism; or

    "(III) in any other country or area of concern designated by the Secretary of Homeland Security under subparagraph (D)

    -- Posted by quietmike on Sun, Jan 29, 2017, at 1:45 PM
  • Yes. The list produced by the Obama administration appears to only contain specifically named; Iraq and Syria.

    -- Posted by lazarus on Sun, Jan 29, 2017, at 2:11 PM
  • Trump is really uniting the country LOL.He is dividing the world.ISIS is happy,they once said elect Trump and he will destroy America ,they wont have to.

    Putting a white supremacist like Bannon in charge things will not sit well with majority of americans.

    Since Trump does not read he does not know what is in the constitution.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Sun, Jan 29, 2017, at 2:33 PM
  • Laz,

    You do know how to read law a little bit, don't you?

    That law says Iraq, Syria, or other countries designated...

    You know which other countries have been designated?

    -- Posted by quietmike on Sun, Jan 29, 2017, at 3:10 PM
  • The ones where Trump does not have business interests. Do you really expect me to believe that list came from anyone except Trump?

    -- Posted by lazarus on Sun, Jan 29, 2017, at 4:22 PM
  • *

    "I was rather surprised at the extent of the minority population (especially in France), but I had never considered the connections that would still exist between European countries and their former (sometimes current) colonies. And the Moslems are there in much greater numbers than you see here."

    Laz, it is headed this way. I the civilized world doesn't stop it, within 50 years or so we will have a One World Government. Aka Shari'ah. If I'm still alive at that time and can still get up out of bed, I think I would enjoy making some ham samiches for them.

    -- Posted by fair share on Sun, Jan 29, 2017, at 4:40 PM
  • I don't expect you to believe anything except the liberal talking points, even when it's laid out for you like I have.

    The SecState designates terror nations and three nations, Iran, Sudan, Syria were designated as such before obama signed the law that includes them. That law added Iraq and Syria specifically.

    Then in Feb. 2016, obama expanded it to include Libya, Yemen, and Somalia (that would be all 7 countries).

    Oh look a source you might believe. http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_56c5fc45e4b0c3c550540558

    Every part of this was obama's, yet liberals (your claims of libertarianism notwithstanding) are blinded by their adoration.

    -- Posted by quietmike on Sun, Jan 29, 2017, at 4:47 PM
  • *

    Btw quietmike, kudos for your "all lives splatter" comment. Everyone that I have told that to has nearly burst their gut.

    -- Posted by fair share on Sun, Jan 29, 2017, at 5:01 PM
  • Glad you liked it, but I was just repeating it from a military site where snipers using Barrrett's 50 were using it.

    -- Posted by quietmike on Sun, Jan 29, 2017, at 5:38 PM
  • I ask you again, Quite Mike; "What significance does any list, whether from Obama or the State Department have?" Do you expect me to believe that Trump consulted someone else' list of countries? He either fired the entire State Department leadership, or they all resigned. But you want me to believe he consulted a list put together by them?

    -- Posted by lazarus on Sun, Jan 29, 2017, at 8:22 PM
  • Trump will listen to no one but Trump.He will destroy America while he sits in his office at the white house eating Lays potato chips and tweeting.

    His wife wont even stay in the white house with him.She left after the inauguration for Barron's school that was closed till the following Wednesday.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Sun, Jan 29, 2017, at 11:08 PM
  • Laz,

    The list is established law and provides a legal precedence (and also another excellent chance for liberals to put their hypocrisy on display).

    That legal precedence means it would be much harder to have his executive order (which is just the carrying out of established law) successfully challenged.

    Did you ever stop to think Trump doesn't have business dealings with these countries because they are state sponsors of terror and have untrustworthy governments, or did you just blindly gobble up what the liberal talking heads told you to believe, as usual?

    -- Posted by quietmike on Mon, Jan 30, 2017, at 3:05 AM
  • Oh look, Saudi agreed to help the US create and maintain safe zones in Syria and Yemen.

    More accomplished in a week than obama did in 8 years (even with his bowing to the Saudi king)

    http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN15D14L

    -- Posted by quietmike on Mon, Jan 30, 2017, at 3:23 AM
  • Good morning, Mike; I am impressed by Trump's newfound concern with legal precedence. Or maybe Giuliani's version is closer to the truth.

    -- Posted by lazarus on Mon, Jan 30, 2017, at 9:19 AM
  • You over-reached a little on what the Saudis agreed. I did not see anything about helping to create and maintain safe zones... only to "support" the idea. They also "invited" Trump to lead the effort to fight terrorism (of which the Saudi government is also a target) and combat the influence of Iran (Iran's shiites vs the Saudi's Sunnis) in the Middle East. It seems they are agreeable to the US spending its money and effort to aid in achieving Saudi goals.

    -- Posted by lazarus on Mon, Jan 30, 2017, at 9:46 AM
  • Just look up photos of Trump with wealthy Saudi prince who helped him build his empire.As long as he gets richer he does not care that 9/11 attackers came from there.He might lose money if he bans Saudi Arabia.His pal Giuliani told America everything as far as the reason this was done.Even Trump said "we will let christians come in from those countries".In other words only ban the muslims.We have american terrorist who claimed to be christians.Killers come from all religions.Some americans refuse to believe this and know it happens often in America.This list did not come from Obama and Trump never listened to Obama on anything else so why now. This is from the man he put in charge of national security,racist Bannon over his generals.That tells me he is going to go against his generals advise on torture.

    I am so glad most of america is waking up and even some Trump supporters koolaide effect is wearing off.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Mon, Jan 30, 2017, at 2:32 PM
  • LBR,

    Do any of those pictures show Trump as president bowing to the Saudi king?

    -- Posted by quietmike on Mon, Jan 30, 2017, at 5:54 PM
  • No but there are some of Bush bowing.

    Trump said the market reaching 20,000 was thanks to him,what now.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Mon, Jan 30, 2017, at 6:18 PM
  • Excuse me I forgot about Eisenhower and Nixon,there is also photos of them bowing to foreign leaders.

    It was only bad when Obama did it.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Mon, Jan 30, 2017, at 6:39 PM
  • *

    b o was the only one bowing down during an apology tour. It is obvious the current ban is the same places the b team came up with. Not a bad place for the A team to start and work up from. Most people know that all religions have some people that kill others. Most people also know there is one religion that has a lot of people that want to kill everyone else and has standing armies such as ISIS and others.

    -- Posted by fair share on Mon, Jan 30, 2017, at 8:03 PM
  • Just like fox news lied about the nationality of the Quebec killer,stating he was moroccan muslim,he was a white nationalist.A person who frequently visited pro-trump and racist sites.

    After Trump fired the state dept. now he is working on the justice dept.He has fired the acting Attorney Gen for doing her job.How dare anyone disobey King Trump even if he is wrong.

    I have not seen the likes of this many people protesting in the streets since Vietnam.I do not think it was this many then.America keep standing up for what is right.The Saturday night massacre all over again.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Mon, Jan 30, 2017, at 8:58 PM
  • LBR,

    It's too bad you are unable to cope with reality.

    The acting AG said Trump's order was legal, but she disagreed with it.

    Guess what, your job is to follow the law, not your bleeding heart.

    Glad Trump fired her as part of draining the swamp.

    -- Posted by quietmike on Tue, Jan 31, 2017, at 6:20 AM
  • *

    He is draining the swamp of people that won't do their job. I feel sorry for old Chuckie and Nancy. Can't get their microphone to work then can't find the "real people" they thought would lend them some legitimacy. Just as well. They need to act like "real people" and get their butts back to work and stop the rabble rousing.

    -- Posted by fair share on Tue, Jan 31, 2017, at 6:25 AM
  • Steve had mentioned about holding people with a strong voice accountable for damaging, false, or threatening statements. (celebrities, news reporters, etc.)

    Yesterday I was listening to Michael Delgiorno on 99.7 fm and he reported that the recent Quebec mosque shooting was perpetrated by two Muslim refugees.

    He dedicated a whole segment of his show to it, going as far to blame Canadian Prime Minister for the deaths of the six victims for letting refugees into the country. And also giving justification to Trumps ban on refugees entering the U.S.

    But as it turns out, Delgiorno's reporting was false, or B.S.

    Turns out, the lone shooter was actually a right-wing racist Trump supporter.

    I will be listening to Delgiorno again this morning and waiting for the segment of his show where he apologizes and gives a total retraction.

    I just won't be holding my breath.

    -- Posted by Rocket Valentine on Tue, Jan 31, 2017, at 7:45 AM
  • Gotta love the stupidity of liberals who try to blame Trump for a shooting in a soverign, foreign country.

    -- Posted by quietmike on Tue, Jan 31, 2017, at 8:07 AM
  • Did not hear Delgiorno's broadcast but if that was his program, I agree, it was irresponsible. People often forget his and Phil's are "shows" and not news, but that does not excuse something that far off.

    I've heard the Canadian Prime Minister's clip and it seems quite "cut and dried" but have not heard any comments about Trump. It seems to be a non-issue except for those who want to continually "throw daggers".

    If being a supporter of a politician in a foreign country is enough validation to condemn the politician, then we sure can condemn Hollywood, game makers and celebrities for inciting violence.

    -- Posted by stevemills on Tue, Jan 31, 2017, at 9:12 AM
  • *

    At least some of the time some of the reason for false reporting, especially early on, is due to confusion. Particularly more so the more plausible the falseness is. And in this case it is extremely plausible that a muslim terrorist could kill other muslims. But with 24 hour news coverage and the eagerness on both sides to spout off at the drop of a hat, this is pretty much SOP now.

    -- Posted by fair share on Tue, Jan 31, 2017, at 9:33 AM
  • Agree fair share.

    -- Posted by stevemills on Tue, Jan 31, 2017, at 11:13 AM
  • The investigation into the background of the shooter that killed six people at the mosque reveled that he was a big fan of Donald Trump and far right-wing ideologies. This is known from his online postings and interviews with people who knew him.

    I think it's more appropriate to point out the stupidity of conservatives like Delgiorno who not only falsely report on the story, but then try to justify Trump's ban on refugees based on his false report.

    -- Posted by Rocket Valentine on Tue, Jan 31, 2017, at 11:17 AM
  • I hope the democrats treat Trump nominee for Supreme Court just like the republicans did Obama's.What repubs did to Obamas nominee is coming back to bite them in the butt.

    It is also more plausible that when you hear about mass shootings in schools,churches or movie theaters in America it is a white male who 9 out of 10 times goes to church every Sunday.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Tue, Jan 31, 2017, at 5:57 PM
  • LBR,

    I guess you forgot that Reid changed the senate rules so dems could use the "nuclear option"?

    I love watching libs go crazy when their own tactics are used on them.

    -- Posted by quietmike on Wed, Feb 1, 2017, at 4:58 AM
  • Just saw a clip of Trump suppose to be talking to blacks about black history.Nothing but a photo-op with a few black repubs that were often on TV behind him during his campaign.Some even remarked they worked on his campaign.He talked about the afro-american museum,which he refused to visit.He needs to speak to blacks that were not hand picked by his administration.

    The repubs have selected amnesia.It took them 155 days to confirm Loretta Lynch.Now Trump has not been in office 2 weeks and they are complaining because all nominees have not been confirmed and half of them do not even have necessary papers needed to be confirmed.

    I am glad to see lawyers are asking for Melania's immigration papers.She never had the news conference trump bragged about having.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Wed, Feb 1, 2017, at 9:48 AM
  • Lazarus,

    Here is the actual text of Trump's executive order for immigration.

    It mentions no country by name, but does reference the law previously signed by obama.

    Big enough to admit your mistake?

    http://www.npr.org/2017/01/31/512439121/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-an...

    -- Posted by quietmike on Wed, Feb 1, 2017, at 10:08 AM
  • So if Trump and repubs do not get their way they are changing the rules as they go.Mitch McConnell's words during Obama Supreme Court nominee,"there will be no hearing,no vote for no reason no matter who it is.

    Trump's immigration BAN has made us less safe.This has put a target on the backs of our service men and women.Americans abroad are less safe.

    Americans will stand against Trumps radical agenda.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Wed, Feb 1, 2017, at 12:23 PM
  • *

    Sometimes I may speak a little brashly and come across as uncaring or unkind in some people's minds. But I really do care about others and lately I have been feeling a little bit sorry for the democrats/leftists/progressives. It must be very stressful seeing the world as you conceive it crumble in real time before your very eyes. Trump is going to do as much or more to get the Blacks and others off the Urban Plantation as Lincoln did to get them off the Cotton Plantation. It must be horrible for some to watch their migration back to their ancestral home in the Republican party.

    -- Posted by fair share on Wed, Feb 1, 2017, at 12:38 PM
  • *

    "Trump's immigration BAN has made us less safe.This has put a target on the backs of our service men and women.Americans abroad are less safe."

    Well at least we have been safe and they haven't hated us and wanted to kill us until now.

    -- Posted by fair share on Wed, Feb 1, 2017, at 1:12 PM
  • LBR,

    You really can't be that dumb.

    Is studying history, even very revent history, verboten for liberals?

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/senate-poised-to-limit-filibusters-in-pa...

    -- Posted by quietmike on Wed, Feb 1, 2017, at 1:50 PM
  • *

    Hey Mike, just because she doesn't deal in facts doesn't (necessarily) mean she is dumb, does it? Couldn't you be a little more sensitive to the plight of those that are less capable?

    ............Just kidding! 😂😂😂😂😂

    -- Posted by fair share on Wed, Feb 1, 2017, at 2:34 PM
  • Yes I agree fair share we have been safe for the last 8 years.You are right about hate and them wanting to kill us since we now have a dictator with a radical agenda and a cabinet and senate afraid to stand up against him.

    Trump said he is in favor of torture,his general said he is not,lets see who gets their way.I will bet even McCain who was tortured will give in.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Wed, Feb 1, 2017, at 2:36 PM
  • The republican party of TODAY will never get more than a tiny percentage of the black vote.Keep dreaming.

    -- Posted by lets be real on Wed, Feb 1, 2017, at 2:40 PM
  • Yes I agree fair share we have been safe for the last 8 years.

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    I guess I was wrong!

    -- Posted by quietmike on Wed, Feb 1, 2017, at 2:59 PM
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    Must be gut wrenching to on a deeper level actually understand the real world but on a more superficial level have some insane belief that what you THINK trumps what is REALITY. Doesn't really sound like you have reached that deeper level of understanding yet, LBR?. But I will keep you in my thoughts and prayers for when you do. In the meantime, why don't you get a dictionary and look up the word "Facetious"?

    -- Posted by fair share on Wed, Feb 1, 2017, at 3:07 PM
  • Isn't Mitch McConnell's words from a debate back in March of last year "there will be no hearing,no vote for no reason no matter who it is? What is trying to be said about the CURRENT nominee?

    By the way, I posted a new post on this subject so everyone does not have to scroll down so much.

    -- Posted by stevemills on Wed, Feb 1, 2017, at 3:40 PM
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