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Another tragedy in American society. Guns, politics, society, breakdown in enforcement, WHAT?

The Florida tragedy developed at the end of a very long discussion. It was suggested that a separate blog on the subject was better. I hope that some constructive comments and observations will come out of this. Here are the relative comments up to this point:
- Another school shooting and that makes 12 this year in one and a half months. Trump has never addressed this, he only will comment if the killer is muslim, minority or an immigrant. We already know what the answer will be from republicans "buy more guns".
-- Posted by lets be real on Wed, Feb 14, 2018, at 4:17 PM
- Congress needs to to more than just have a moment of silence and wait for the next one.Prayers for the families.Other countries control this why can't America?
-- Posted by lets be real on Wed, Feb 14, 2018, at 6:15 PM
- LBR,
Trump gave condolences to the people of Florida.
You might try getting news from other places.
We can't control it because dems hate responsibility so much they can't even attach responsibility in situations such as this.
It couldn't possibly be the fault of the retard pulling the trigger? Many who knew this turd said they were not surprised by his actions.
Prior to the 1980s we locked away nutbars, but bleeding heart democrats said that was heartless, so now they roam the streets, often homeless, and dems still whine that something should be done.
This school was already a gun free zone. Already had locked down doors and a surrounding fence which required outsiders to be "buzzed in".
We need to let teachers and school administrators carry weapons. We need to hire retired/former military and police to guard schools. We need to move away from the liberal teachings of avoidance of responsibility.
-- Posted by quietmike on Wed, Feb 14, 2018, at 8:22 PM
- I made a mistake about 12 school shootings this year,it is 18.After a moment of silence in congress this will be forgotten.It will not stop unless it happens behind the walls on congress.They probably already called the NRA to tell them business will go on as usual just keep filling our pockets.Rubio already said it is to early to talk about guns.If this is called mental illiness,look to the ones who cut the funding for that.
Just saw that 130 WH staffers still has no security clearance still after a year.Some of these are top assistants close to Trump handling top classified material include Ivanka and Jared Kushner,McGhan and Sarah "Slander".And to think Trump screamed about Hillary emails for a whole year.He knew this and kept these people on these jobs.This is a national security threat.
-- Posted by lets be real on Wed, Feb 14, 2018, at 11:33 PM
- 18 "school shootings"
Twice, someone shot themselves on school grounds; one incident, on January 3, featured a man shooting himself in a former school’s parking lot; on January 10 a teen killed himself in an Arizona elementary school bathroom.
Four times, a bullet was fired through a school or dorm’s window: on January 4, a gunshot was fired at a high school in Seattle through an office window; no one was hurt. On January 10, a shot was fired shattering a California State University classroom window. No injuries were reported. The same day, in Texas, a bullet was accidentally fired through a classroom wall at the Grayson College Criminal Justice Center. No one was injured. On January 15, a bullet traveled through a residential hall’s dorm room. No injuries were reported.
On January 25, a Mobile, Alabama, high school student fired a gun on campus. No one was injured. On January 26, in Dearborn, Michigan, shots were fired from a car in a parking lot; no injuries were reported.
On February 5, in Maplewood, Minnesota, a third-grader pulled the trigger on a cop's gun. No one was injured. On February 8, in New York, a shot was fired inside Metropolitan High School. No one was injured.
https://www.dailywire.com/node/27165
-- Posted by quietmike on Thu, Feb 15, 2018, at 1:28 AM
Yep. Nothing to see here...move along. 17 more dead kids. It's just the "price of freedom".
It's much more important to have our right to own AR-15's and high capacity ammo clips.
Collateral damage yesterday. Nothing more.
'Merica! 🇺🇸
-- Posted by RocketValentine on Thu, Feb 15, 2018, at 5:57 AM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna597091
-- Posted by RocketValentine on Thu, Feb 15, 2018, at 6:04 AM
I thought I would check to see how many mass murders there were in Australia, before and after. For those interested here is a website although I did not run the figures down to confirm. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_in_Australia
- 17
Less than the 18 killed in Chicago alone in February.
But the talking heads didn't tell everyone to be outraged when people are killed in a city with the harshest gun laws in the country.
-- Posted by quietmike on Thu, Feb 15, 2018, at 6:14 AM
And neighboring Indiana(about a 3 hr. drive)has some of the most lax gun laws in the country.
It'd be like banning guns in Nashville, but you could buy as many as you wanted in Memphis. And then people in Nashville saying..."We just can't figure out where all theses guys are coming from".
-- Posted by RocketValentine on Thu, Feb 15, 2018, at 6:44 AM
- While we are banning things, let's also ban pens and pencils for making dumb@sses fail tests. No need to hold the actual responsible party responsible for the action they take. To tell you the truth, I am somewhat shocked and surprised, yet very pleased, that none of my guns have ever discharged a single projectile without my direct control and consent. It is a shame it doesn't seem to work like that for everyone. But I'll tell you what. The very first time one of them does, I will punish that sucker for being a menace to society by melting it down myself.
-- Posted by fair share on Thu, Feb 15, 2018, at 8:12 AM
- RV,
What's the murder rate in Indiana?
Nothing close to Chicago, you say?
Guess it isn't a gun problem.
This cat in Florida was expelled from school for threatening students and the school sent an email out saying that he wasn't allowed on the property with a backpack. Sort of a red flag.
The FBI was notified about him LAST YEAR when he posted on youtube that he wanted to be a professional school shooter, but the FBI was too busy chasing down phantom Russian hackers.
The school in Florida had security, but they were unarmed (que the "I'm not a security guard, I'm a security monitor commercial).
After all these glaring personal failures dems still try to pin the blame on an inanimate object.
-- Posted by quietmike on Thu, Feb 15, 2018, at 9:04 AM
- Q: Anyone know the difference between a liberal and a puppy?
A: A puppy quits whining when it grows up.
-- Posted by fair share on Thu, Feb 15, 2018, at 10:14 AM
Yeah, I read that the shooter had posted some instagram and YouTube stuff.
In one of them he was wearing his Trump M.A.G.A. hat.
Imagine that.
-- Posted by RocketValentine on Thu, Feb 15, 2018, at 10:56 AM
- The repubs are going to have to go at this hot and heavy for quite a while if they want any chance to catch up with the dems in this activity.
-- Posted by fair share on Thu, Feb 15, 2018, at 12:06 PM
- No doubt. If democrats stopped killing people, our murder rate would drop by about 90%.
99.99999999% if you count blobs of tissue as humans.
-- Posted by quietmike on Thu, Feb 15, 2018, at 12:24 PM
Oh yeah...and the shooter belonged to a white supremacist/white nationalist militia group.
I wonder if he was with that group of idiots that came to Shelbyville back in October?
-- Posted by RocketValentine on Thu, Feb 15, 2018, at 12:25 PM
- This only happens in America.Obama addressed America in tears and compassion after school shootings,Dump has to read from a teleprompter because he has no compassion for anyone.While we worry about muslims and the border,white men continue to slaughter our children in masses.It is sad other countries think we need borders to keep us in,we are number 1 in the world for public mass shootings.For all Dump supporters who will yell mental illiness remember one of Dumps first order was to undo Obamas restriction on the mentally ill buying guns.Only in America can an 18 year old buy an AR-15 and can't buy a beer.No one needs this kind of gun to kill animals only humans.
The NRA gave republicans millions and Dump 21 million to boost his campaign,enough said.
-- Posted by lets be real on Thu, Feb 15, 2018, at 1:24 PM
- Can anyone tell me how reading from a teleprompter vs talking without notes has anything to do one way or the other with compassion? Rhetorical question. Unreal, do you know what an AR-15 is? It is basically just a handgun that is longer in the front and longer in the back. And if you want to let 18 year olds buy beer, I'm with you. Let's let them buy cigs and MJ also. But only if we let them deal with the consequences of their choices.
-- Posted by fair share on Thu, Feb 15, 2018, at 1:59 PM
- Obama addressed America in tears and compassion after school shootings-posted by lets be real ignorant
After Sandy Hook Obama said the threat of an active shooter isn't justification for arming school personnel all while his daughters were attending a private school heavily guarded by armed personnel.
With such hypocrisy, its no wonder LBR looks up to him.
The NRA has killed no one, and receives no taxpayer money and donates to political candidates -OMGWTFBBQ!
Planned parenthood kills a baby every 90 seconds, receives $500 million a year in taxpayer money and contributes to political candidates -yawn
Witness the two posters here who think it's perfectly fine to kill a baby for convenience are shocked and outraged when someone thinks kids who are a bit older are fair game.
Perhaps dems need to look at the moral decay they've foisted on society if they want to blame something other than the shooter.
-- Posted by quietmike on Thu, Feb 15, 2018, at 5:11 PM
- RV,
Way to get taken by FAKE NEWS.
Police in Florida say there are no ties between Cruz and a white supremacy group.
http://www.tallahassee.com/story/news/2018/02/15/florida-school-shooting-suspect...
-- Posted by quietmike on Thu, Feb 15, 2018, at 5:23 PM
- Quite how do they know this soon this guy was not connected with white supremacy?
And Fair compassion comes from the heart no need for written speech on a teleprompter.Maybe he had that Stormy Daniels dress on his mind.
Every presidents kids go to private school and what does that mean?
Well another white teen has been arrested in SC for threatening to shoot up another school,I bet he owns one of those little harmless assault guns also.Only in America.
-- Posted by lets be real on Thu, Feb 15, 2018, at 7:11 PM
Mikey, it wasn't "fake news". Read your own article. The leader of the white supremacist group did claim that the Florida shooter was a member of his group. The police just said they haven't found definitive proof of it yet.
What they do have proof of are pictures of the shooter's social media accounts with him wearing his Trump M.A.G.A hat, and also interviews from students that knew him that say he was a Trump loving gun-nut.
-- Posted by RocketValentine on Thu, Feb 15, 2018, at 7:18 PM
- So I take that as a "no", unreal. (Tho I really like quietmike's new name for you.👍) Since you call them "little harmless assault guns", I sense that you feel differently. You know, I did an experiment today. Left mine in the swing on the porch this morning then left it unsupervised until dark. Several people, animals, and vehicles passed by throughout the day. Know how many of the that little son of a gun shot? Exactly zero. And it really isn't overly well-behaved. It didn't shoot anyone because I didn't manipulate it into doing that. Remarkable, don't ya think?
-- Posted by fair share on Thu, Feb 15, 2018, at 7:35 PM
- RV, I believe you said he was a member. And as far as his MAGA hat goes, even crazies can be right about some things.
-- Posted by fair share on Thu, Feb 15, 2018, at 7:39 PM
- Quite how do they know this soon this guy was not connected with white supremacy?- posted by lets be real
----
Sometimes I think it would be easier to get you to understand Portuguese than basic logic.
Look at your own question. How do you know this early he was not.....
How would anyone know this early he was?
Maybe click on the link where the police said there was no evidence of a link?
I know it isn't your standard reading fare such as occupydumbocrats, but you really, REALLY need to expand your horizons.
-- Posted by quietmike on Thu, Feb 15, 2018, at 7:40 PM
- RV,
If Alex Jones made an assertion with no evidence to back it up, would you believe it?
Why did you give so much credence to the leader of a white supremacist organization?
Instead of searching for some outside influence to blame, why not assign personal responsibility to the person(rhetorical question as we all know the answer)
-- Posted by quietmike on Thu, Feb 15, 2018, at 7:46 PM
- Every presidents kids go to private school and what does that mean?-posted by... well let's just guess who couldn't understand when it was there in plain English.
Let's try one more time.
After Sandy Hook Obama said the threat of an active shooter isn't justification for arming school personnel all while his daughters were attending a private school heavily guarded by armed personnel.
With such hypocrisy, its no wonder LBR looks up to him.
Let's try the angle you don't understand hypocrisy despite your fluency in practicing it.
Hypocrisy means advocating one position publicly while privately doing the opposite. Maybe you've heard "practice what you preach"?
Obama, who cried crocodile tears said the children of peon serfs weren't deserving of protection by armed security, while his children were more heavily guarded than your average bank.
OTOH, many in congress, and most people with fully functional brains, advocate arming teachers and/or having armed security at every school, so if they have their kids in a protected school they aren't hypocrites, since they are doing what they advocate.
Hope this clears things up for you.
-- Posted by quietmike on Thu, Feb 15, 2018, at 8:00 PM
Wow, the fact that a Trump loving, red M.A.G.A hat wearing, possible(but not yet confirmed) white supremacist, gun-nut just committed another one of the worst mass shootings in our history sure has you guys scrambling to somehow point the finger to someone else.
So far Mikey's blamed the FBI, Planned Parenthood, Obama, Democrats...what's next, Hillary's emails?
Mikey, you love to talk about personal responsibility...well then, own up.
A white, racist, red M.A.G.A. hat wearing, Trump supporter with a AR-15 just murdered 17 innocent school kids and teachers.
Those are the facts. Sorry.
-- Posted by RocketValentine on Thu, Feb 15, 2018, at 8:21 PM
- Actually, RV, the blame should be on Cruz, and Cruz alone. The rest is just yapping for yapping's sake.
-- Posted by fair share on Thu, Feb 15, 2018, at 9:32 PM
- RV,
You're reading comprehension deficiencies are showing again.
I didn't blame any of those. I said since dems abhor assigning personal responsibility and were desperately trying to blame something other than the shooter, maybe they could blame them.
The very last sentence of my last post before yours....
Instead of searching for some outside influence to blame, why not assign personal responsibility to the person(rhetorical question as we all know the answer)
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- -- Posted by fair share on Wed, Feb 28, 2018, at 5:52 PM
- -- Posted by lets be real on Wed, Feb 28, 2018, at 8:10 PM
- -- Posted by quietmike on Wed, Feb 28, 2018, at 9:14 PM
- -- Posted by quietmike on Wed, Feb 28, 2018, at 9:16 PM
- -- Posted by lets be real on Wed, Feb 28, 2018, at 9:41 PM
- -- Posted by quietmike on Wed, Feb 28, 2018, at 11:27 PM
- -- Posted by fair share on Thu, Mar 1, 2018, at 8:16 AM
- -- Posted by fair share on Thu, Mar 1, 2018, at 9:19 AM
- -- Posted by quietmike on Thu, Mar 1, 2018, at 10:17 AM
- -- Posted by fair share on Thu, Mar 1, 2018, at 12:06 PM
- -- Posted by lets be real on Thu, Mar 1, 2018, at 1:24 PM
- -- Posted by quietmike on Thu, Mar 1, 2018, at 1:52 PM
- -- Posted by fair share on Thu, Mar 1, 2018, at 2:10 PM
- -- Posted by quietmike on Thu, Mar 1, 2018, at 3:59 PM
- -- Posted by fair share on Thu, Mar 1, 2018, at 5:23 PM
- -- Posted by lets be real on Thu, Mar 1, 2018, at 11:18 PM
- -- Posted by quietmike on Fri, Mar 2, 2018, at 12:42 PM
- -- Posted by quietmike on Fri, Mar 2, 2018, at 1:51 PM
- -- Posted by lets be real on Sat, Mar 3, 2018, at 11:26 AM
- -- Posted by fair share on Sat, Mar 3, 2018, at 12:34 PM
- -- Posted by quietmike on Sat, Mar 3, 2018, at 2:26 PM
- -- Posted by lets be real on Sat, Mar 3, 2018, at 7:10 PM
- -- Posted by quietmike on Sat, Mar 3, 2018, at 8:06 PM
- -- Posted by lets be real on Sun, Mar 4, 2018, at 12:44 AM
- -- Posted by quietmike on Sun, Mar 4, 2018, at 2:05 AM
- -- Posted by fair share on Sun, Mar 4, 2018, at 12:37 PM
- -- Posted by lets be real on Sun, Mar 4, 2018, at 10:23 PM
- -- Posted by quietmike on Mon, Mar 5, 2018, at 7:25 AM
- -- Posted by lets be real on Tue, Mar 6, 2018, at 6:28 PM
- -- Posted by quietmike on Tue, Mar 6, 2018, at 7:53 PM
- -- Posted by lets be real on Wed, Mar 7, 2018, at 8:40 PM
- -- Posted by lets be real on Wed, Mar 7, 2018, at 9:58 PM
- -- Posted by quietmike on Thu, Mar 8, 2018, at 2:18 PM
- -- Posted by fair share on Thu, Mar 8, 2018, at 11:35 PM
- -- Posted by stevemills on Fri, Mar 9, 2018, at 8:01 AM
- -- Posted by lets be real on Fri, Mar 9, 2018, at 5:26 PM
- -- Posted by quietmike on Fri, Mar 9, 2018, at 5:32 PM
- -- Posted by stevemills on Fri, Mar 9, 2018, at 7:20 PM
- -- Posted by fair share on Fri, Mar 9, 2018, at 7:40 PM
- -- Posted by lets be real on Fri, Mar 9, 2018, at 7:56 PM
- -- Posted by fair share on Sat, Mar 10, 2018, at 10:06 AM
- -- Posted by lets be real on Sat, Mar 10, 2018, at 12:18 PM
- -- Posted by fair share on Sat, Mar 10, 2018, at 12:41 PM
- -- Posted by quietmike on Sat, Mar 10, 2018, at 6:26 PM
- -- Posted by lets be real on Sat, Mar 10, 2018, at 10:45 PM
- -- Posted by quietmike on Sun, Mar 11, 2018, at 11:56 AM
- -- Posted by lets be real on Mon, Mar 12, 2018, at 8:26 PM
- -- Posted by lets be real on Mon, Mar 12, 2018, at 10:06 PM
- -- Posted by quietmike on Mon, Mar 12, 2018, at 11:22 PM
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